London

[Jojosun]

+1. Succinctly and comprehensively put. Jojo to your credit you actually are the only person who does at least try to give some information in this thread.

I second Optimist's comment. A galant effort but sadly serves to demonstrate the limited options. So be it. Thanks for trying at least.

Thank you. LOL at least for now you don't want me to " Hang my head in shame ".

As for the limited options in London, of course That's your opinion which you're entitled to even to keep repeating it.

As for being the only person on here trying to give some information, I completely disagree with your conclusion. Posts on this thread by many members going back many years speak for themselves. In fact this thread on London is the best thread for visitors to London who want to monger with escorts working for reputable agencies and venues.

Cheers.

[Jojosun]

Jojosun, thank you for the work you put into your last post. It seems there is little in the way of good options for a London visitor like me. I guess one needs to be living locally like you in order to build up info. I wasn't interested in escorts which seems to be the most accessible option.

No, I'm not knocking London, which always feels like home to me. I had hoped I had missed some information and that there might have been some liberalisation, but it seems not.

Cheers

Jojosun, thank you for the work you put into your last post. It seems there is little in the way of good options for a London visitor like me. I guess one needs to be living locally like you in order to build up info. I wasn't interested in escorts which seems to be the most accessible option.

No, I'm not knocking London, which always feels like home to me. I had hoped I had missed some information and that there might have been some liberalisation, but it seems not.

Cheers

No problem as I enjoy doing the research which I didn't do or wasn't available when I first started mongering in London. I am based in London for few months in the year which makes it so easy and cost effective for me to explore it as well as exploring mongering options in many cities and towns in EE & Central Europe and its a lot cheaper and with better options than doing the same anywhere else in the UK including Manchester.

I started mongering with a line up at bordellos, incall venues, clubs across the border in Mexico and it only took us about 40 minutes to realize the difference when its all on a platter to choose from compared to hunting for it under the watchful eyes of so many LEOs. Only problem there its only Latinas or Black girls. That's why I love the Capital of Diversity when it comes to Mongering and Eating out options.

I know it sounds like a broken record by now, But if you're not into escorts, then London isn't for you or for anyone else who is only into choosing from a Line Up in a Brothel or FKK kinda of clubs. I do and did Line Ups at Brothels in many parts of the world and actually prefer it than being limited in my choice to one or 2 girls in a venue, But I am flexible in my mongering habits and mix and match with what's available anywhere in the world including London.

Don't ask me why the police in London raid certain brothels and turn a blind eye to others??

They must have very solid intel and evidence to do so, illegal immigrants, drugs, trafficked and controlled girls, pimps on the premises?

Yet almost opposite the old police station in Chelsea you have the infamous 10 Floors of hoes on Sloane Ave in one of the most exclusive areas of London where so many WGS work in the apartments there, one or 2 at each apartment, not breaking the law. One of my first experiences was there at this building. I am posting on it HERE as its such an open secret.

You can easily arrange to see a dozen or more girls if you want by making apt at ten minutes intervals and making excuses and walk or stick with the one that you like. A line up of sorts in the same building housing 1000 apt with a lobby and a nice bar open in the evening with no worries about being raided. .

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/rise-...s-7235704.html

Rise of the 'Sloane Rangers'.

The CC Building on Trip Advisor " Lastly many of the rooms here are let out to escorts and Chelsea cloisters has a very famous reputation for this I found out. They allow all sorts of men to frequent this place at all hours of the night and hang out in the lobby. On one occasion I was propositioned and another I accidentally had a guy knock at my door who got the wrong room number looking to meet a "Pasha". Although embarrassed and I have a huge sense of humor, I was lucky. This place is not safe for women or young children.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.ukChelsea_Cloisters_prostitutes-London_England. H ".

However, now I heard something about CC being a "haven for prostitutes."

You might even like the bar there http://www.cntraveller.com/recommend...nts/page/barts- Chelsea.

BTW my post which you perceived as rude was a bit of banter and actually I was surprised that you were still looking to monger in London. That's now history, Welcome back to the thread on Your City.

Cheers.

[PayForIt]

Jojosun, thank you for the work you put into your last post. It seems there is little in the way of good options for a London visitor like me. I guess one needs to be living locally like you in order to build up info. I wasn't interested in escorts which seems to be the most accessible option.

No, I'm not knocking London, which always feels like home to me. I had hoped I had missed some information and that there might have been some liberalisation, but it seems not.

Cheers

+1. Succinctly and comprehensively put. Jojo to your credit you actually are the only person who does at least try to give some information in this thread.

I second Optimist's comment. A galant effort but sadly serves to demonstrate the limited options. So be it. Thanks for trying at least.

[Optimist]

Jojosun, thank you for the work you put into your last post. It seems there is little in the way of good options for a London visitor like me. I guess one needs to be living locally like you in order to build up info. I wasn't interested in escorts which seems to be the most accessible option.

No, I'm not knocking London, which always feels like home to me. I had hoped I had missed some information and that there might have been some liberalisation, but it seems not.

Cheers

[Jojosun]

Who said this? Soho walk-ups are still up and running and you can still "check out half a dozen girls in half an hour. .

It only took me just few minutes to research Soho walk-ups and here's the exact numbers. Nearly all of this info was posted on this Thread before many times over the years. .

Update. Total number =27 Walk -ups or down as few are basements, as per the following.

" Flats with consistently good reports" 15 Flats some are in the same building.

" Flats with some good reports" 8 Flats.

" Flats to avoid" 4 Flats.

Total of 27 . Indeed it would even take less than half hour especially for someone who had bothered to research first the current crop of girls working there. Very easy to do as its all there on threads on Soho Walk -ups complete with " Girls' descriptions" days and times& of their locations.

Credits for all the detailed info goes to.

"Apart from the editors updating the Soho XXX there are a large number of punters (now too many to mention) whose invaluable input is appreciated ".

Unlike many cities in the world where its only Hoes for the masses and Hoes for the Classes, Tourists, London is for every budget and preference with its mongering options. When it comes to diversity of girls, London is Second to none. . No surprise there as London is also The Foodie Capital of the World. " London hailed as most 'diverse and exciting' food capital in the world" http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/r...-world-a327217.

And with all the detailed info readily available "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice".

[Jojosun]

Again for the benefit of visitors to London.

Hi,

I'm headed to London and staying at the Mayfair Hotel off Straton. What are reputable escort agencies I can use? Also are there any nearby bars with potential talent? This is my first trip to London.

Thanks.

Few of the Clubs with a Line Up and completely legal.

I've never used escort agencies in London but posted links on few based on positive feedback by credible members of other sites and what few buds've told me about their experiences using them.

You didn't make yourself clear as to what you mean by, bars with potential talent? What are you looking for, freebies, hoes??

As you're in London for few days and with your budget, you'd be better of hitting one or 2 Gentleman's Clubs where you See Hostesses and Select the girl of your choice and agree a price for a take out. Most of the girls in such clubs are available for takeout once you spend some money inside the club. Best to have a quiet word with the manager and explain to him what you're looking for. Price around 500 ?

Here are some links to clubs close to your Hotel.

http://www.fluidlondon.co.uk/venue/m...lemens_club_w1

http://www.fluidlondon.co.uk/venue/m...ight_club_sw1y

http://www.no4mayfair.com/

Here's an interesting article on a Gentelman's club (Chaplin's) now closed, to give you an idea about prices. I and few buds who were on account did take out few girls from the club just before it was closed.

I bumped into Oscar the ex owner of the club about 6 years ago here at https://www.windmillinternational.com/.

If you get to try any of the clubs above, don't forget to post a review.

For guys who want the best talent and most reliable girls working for Escort Agencies with very good feedabacl. ,then its the following in no particular order or preference as I've never used but heard it first hand from guys who use them.

http://www.agencyallure.com/

http://www.bijouxescorts.com/

http://www.hamiltonsescorts.com/

adultwork.com ,vivastreet, backpage are too time consuming and need a lot of research and not recommended unless a monger is based in London.

And the following post by Wild Man was one of the best recommendations which I echo, also posted on it before with girls checked for ID and are legally working in The UK on self employed basis.

,But of course its not for mongers who like a Line Up in a club atmosphere with fine food and drinks, hence the list of Clubs above

House of Divine, might be just what you're looking for, let us know how you get on!

http://www.houseofdivine.com/londone...ocationone.php

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As for the much talked about "Brothels" ,plenty of them in central London, BUT I wouldn't recommend them to overseas visitors nor will I pass on info about them as these places are much less tolerated by the police and could be raided anytime.

https://www.cityoflondon.police.uk/n...rating-several " Couple arrested in connection with operating several brothels in the City".

Police raids even in the most upmarket and exclusive areas of London https://www.ukpower.co.uk/gas_electr...ondon-brothels " Two men, aged 34 and 35, were arrested alongside a 26-year-old woman at around 22:30 BST yesterday at an address in Victoria.

They were also arrested on suspicion of trafficking women within the UK and money laundering.

Other premises in South Kensington were also raided as part of the operation and eight women were recovered from these addresses.

Police say both the Victoria and South Kensington premises are believed to have been operating as brothels. ".

A monger caught with a " Trafficked girl " and controlled girl ends up being arrested and could be convicted. Who wants to end up with a criminal record on both sides of the Atlantic.

More on police raids on Brothels in central London " Met cracks trafficking and prostitution racket with swoop on Chelsea and Earl's Court 'brothels'.

Met cracks.

Women and the Mafia: Female Roles in Organized Crime Structures (Studies of Organized Crime) trafficking and prostitution racket with swoop on Chelsea and Earl's Court'brothels' News: "suspected gangland pimp with alleged links to Russian organised crime was being questioned today in connection with a [CodeWord908] and high-class prostitution racket in London.

The Russian-born Israeli national allegedly ran a series of brothels in affluent areas of the capital.

Vice squad detectives swooped on the 40-year-old at his Chelsea home and rescued five women who are believed to have been trafficked to London and forced to work as prostitutes. The women were found in police raids on two alleged brothels in Chelsea and one in Earl's Court. ".

Only few weeks ago there was a big police operation which resulted in the deportation of a number of Thai Girls who were working at such brothels, among them the very popular ZIZI and Gugi who used to work at Brothels in Earls court in (Central London) very close to where another (BROTHEL) is still operating but with EE Girls complete with a Line UP of about 4 Girls. ANYONE here who wants to find out about this Brothel then again a repeat of the same info as before, read my posts on Phone Cards in Phone Boxes on Brompton Road.

The last thing I want is to be assisting Prostitues Carders and promoting this kind of Mongering which I don't recommend to visitors to London. IF I were to be caught, then yes, I SHOULD HANG MY HEAD IN SHAME. . . Wherever I go I monger within the law and what is recommended.

http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/...tutes-10492144 http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/...t-prostitutes-.

Fight stepped up against prostitutes' calling cards in K&see phone boxes.

And with this post I rest my case.

Again for the benefit of visitors to London.

Hi,

I'm headed to London and staying at the Mayfair Hotel off Straton. What are reputable escort agencies I can use? Also are there any nearby bars with potential talent? This is my first trip to London.

Thanks.

Few of the Clubs with a Line Up and completely legal.

I've never used escort agencies in London but posted links on few based on positive feedback by credible members of other sites and what few buds've told me about their experiences using them.

You didn't make yourself clear as to what you mean by, bars with potential talent? What are you looking for, freebies, hoes??

As you're in London for few days and with your budget, you'd be better of hitting one or 2 Gentleman's Clubs where you See Hostesses and Select the girl of your choice and agree a price for a take out. Most of the girls in such clubs are available for takeout once you spend some money inside the club. Best to have a quiet word with the manager and explain to him what you're looking for. Price around 500 ?

Here are some links to clubs close to your Hotel.

http://www.fluidlondon.co.uk/venue/m...lemens_club_w1

http://www.fluidlondon.co.uk/venue/m...ight_club_sw1y

http://www.no4mayfair.com/

Here's an interesting article on a Gentelman's club (Chaplin's) now closed, to give you an idea about prices. I and few buds who were on account did take out few girls from the club just before it was closed.

I bumped into Oscar the ex owner of the club about 6 years ago here at https://www.windmillinternational.com/.

If you get to try any of the clubs above, don't forget to post a review.

For guys who want the best talent and most reliable girls working for Escort Agencies with very good feedabacl. ,then its the following in no particular order or preference as I've never used but heard it first hand from guys who use them.

http://www.agencyallure.com/

http://www.bijouxescorts.com/

http://www.hamiltonsescorts.com/

adultwork.com ,vivastreet, backpage are too time consuming and need a lot of research and not recommended unless a monger is based in London.

And the following post by Wild Man was one of the best recommendations which I echo, also posted on it before with girls checked for ID and are legally working in The UK on self employed basis.

,But of course its not for mongers who like a Line Up in a club atmosphere with fine food and drinks, hence the list of Clubs above

House of Divine, might be just what you're looking for, let us know how you get on!

http://www.houseofdivine.com/londone...ocationone.php

.

As for the much talked about "Brothels" ,plenty of them in central London, BUT I wouldn't recommend them to overseas visitors nor will I pass on info about them as these places are much less tolerated by the police and could be raided anytime.

https://www.cityoflondon.police.uk/n...rating-several " Couple arrested in connection with operating several brothels in the City".

Police raids even in the most upmarket and exclusive areas of London https://www.ukpower.co.uk/gas_electr...ondon-brothels " Two men, aged 34 and 35, were arrested alongside a 26-year-old woman at around 22:30 BST yesterday at an address in Victoria.

They were also arrested on suspicion of trafficking women within the UK and money laundering.

Other premises in South Kensington were also raided as part of the operation and eight women were recovered from these addresses.

Police say both the Victoria and South Kensington premises are believed to have been operating as brothels. ".

A monger caught with a " Trafficked girl " and controlled girl ends up being arrested and could be convicted. Who wants to end up with a criminal record on both sides of the Atlantic.

More on police raids on Brothels in central London " Met cracks trafficking and prostitution racket with swoop on Chelsea and Earl's Court 'brothels'.

Met cracks.

Women and the Mafia: Female Roles in Organized Crime Structures (Studies of Organized Crime) trafficking and prostitution racket with swoop on Chelsea and Earl's Court'brothels' News: "suspected gangland pimp with alleged links to Russian organised crime was being questioned today in connection with a [CodeWord908] and high-class prostitution racket in London.

The Russian-born Israeli national allegedly ran a series of brothels in affluent areas of the capital.

Vice squad detectives swooped on the 40-year-old at his Chelsea home and rescued five women who are believed to have been trafficked to London and forced to work as prostitutes. The women were found in police raids on two alleged brothels in Chelsea and one in Earl's Court. ".

Only few weeks ago there was a big police operation which resulted in the deportation of a number of Thai Girls who were working at such brothels, among them the very popular ZIZI and Gugi who used to work at Brothels in Earls court in (Central London) very close to where another (BROTHEL) is still operating but with EE Girls complete with a Line UP of about 4 Girls. ANYONE here who wants to find out about this Brothel then again a repeat of the same info as before, read my posts on Phone Cards in Phone Boxes on Brompton Road.

The last thing I want is to be assisting Prostitues Carders and promoting this kind of Mongering which I don't recommend to visitors to London. IF I were to be caught, then yes, I SHOULD HANG MY HEAD IN SHAME. . . Wherever I go I monger within the law and what is recommended.

http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/...tutes-10492144 http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/...t-prostitutes-.

Fight stepped up against prostitutes' calling cards in K&see phone boxes.

And with this post I rest my case.

[Optimist]

"The translucent curtain is closing around Soho, too, our historic village of vagrants and immigrants, of hookers and queens, of cheese shops and coffee shops and sex shops and peep shows. It, too, is being reduced to a giant waxwork in a museum, nothing more than the set for a foreign film".

[Optimist]

Who said this? Soho walk-ups are still up and running and you can still "check out half a dozen girls in half an hour.

I failed to see the interest for essentially a bunch of guys who are essentially mongering elsewhere, Germany it seems, to come on these thread and fill GBs of cyberspace with pages to say how bad it is in London.

London mongering scene is what it is, and there are subjective different views about it, so just leave us alone here, enjoy Germany, Thailand, Timbuktu if you can go there!

I assume that my answer will again trigger Myrrh and Pfp to fill a few extra pages, but, don't bother, I don't read them anymore.

Ah, this is something I do know the answer to .

The number of walk ups in Soho has declined dramatically, nowadays I estimate well under 20% of the number there used to be(I can go round and remember each no longer existent walkup).The redevelopment of Greens Court and Walkers Court is almost the final nail in the coffin.

Even Berwick St. Market offends those guiding the gentrification of the area

You say you fail to see the interest in London from guys like me. Yes, I do monger mainly in Germany, but I wanted some help in being able to retry London. I hope that explains it clearly. All I wanted was some practical advice and guidance.

I don't knock London: as you say "it is what it is", but as a UK citizen, born and bred in London (now living outside London) it doesn't seem so inappropriate to ask for help.

So, does anyone have any practical help to offer, apart from look in phone booths and look on AW , Vivastreet etc?. I explained earlier why these options were not good for me.

[PayForIt]

I failed to see the interest for essentially a bunch of guys who are essentially mongering elsewhere, Germany it seems, to come on these thread and fill GBs of cyberspace with pages to say how bad it is in London.

London mongering scene is what it is, and there are subjective different views about it, so just leave us alone here, enjoy Germany, Thailand, Timbuktu if you can go there!

I assume that my answer will again trigger Myrrh and Pfp to fill a few extra pages, but, don't bother, I don't read them anymore.

I wondered how long it would take for the London Defence Brigade to arrive!🐴🦄🐴

First, you DO read the posts or otherwise you couldn't be commenting upon them here.

Secondly, the forum is for information (sadly lacking on the London thread) and opinions. I'm as entitled to express mine, as is Myrrh, and Optimist, as you and you pal Jojo are to be 100% defensive about London. So the rather childish "so just leave us alone here" is, I hope, the expression of a desire rather than a hint of a command. If the latter you'll be sent off with a flea in your ear for telling others what to post, or where. This sort of comment reminds me of the crass stupidity of those who denounced the vast majority of people in the UK who voted Brexit as stupid. It doesn't matter whether other members and I believe London has poor mongering options and other countries are better, and it doesn't matter that you disagree (your perfectly validly expressed opinion). What matters is that we are all free to express those opinions. Don't try to stifle that (either with pleas to "leave us alone") or worse, commands.

Finally, as for taking up a lot of bandwith (GBs. Are you serious?!!)😇 It would be terrific if instead of this debate about London being hopeless (or not) you and your pal Jojo and anyone else for that matter actually posted some useful information which assisted others to know where you attended, who with, when, what she was like to look at, what service level was provided etc. I. e all of the information you will find on nearly every other thread on ISG apart from London. I'm beginning to actually wonder what the London thread is for. Jackson. If you are reading this, please consider the past 100 posts on this thread and ask whether it is a valid thread as nobody who posts on it is prepared to give a decent piece of information. Apologies. There was of course the suggestion to ask a policeman 👮where to monger in London. Very helpful but completely renders the London thread useless.

For as long as this thread ceases to exist, and / or contain NIL positive information to assist others, I shall continue to post as a notice to possible mongers considering London as a destination. That it is to be avoided for mongering. My view. I'm 100% entitled to express it. Please prove me wrong. Go on Dreams. Please post something of use to others who visit this thread. Honestly. You'd think we were back in school!

[Dreams]

. Gone are most of the walk ups in Soho and Shepherds Market, where one could check out half a dozen girls in half an hour...

Who said this? Soho walk-ups are still up and running and you can still "check out half a dozen girls in half an hour.

I failed to see the interest for essentially a bunch of guys who are essentially mongering elsewhere, Germany it seems, to come on these thread and fill GBs of cyberspace with pages to say how bad it is in London.

London mongering scene is what it is, and there are subjective different views about it, so just leave us alone here, enjoy Germany, Thailand, Timbuktu if you can go there!

I assume that my answer will again trigger Myrrh and Pfp to fill a few extra pages, but, don't bother, I don't read them anymore.

[Optimist]

Jojosun. As you were rude to me based on your misunderstanding of use of English, I need to tell you that "here" is an adverb which can be used to refer to a specific place and / or time. My use was referring to my contribution in this thread at the time concerned. As I said below, I was trying to bow out of a pointless argument with you as one of us had to.

[Optimist]

Maybe and I am guessing here as to why? They read what you said and took it a face value, thought you were saying good bye to Mongering in London.

That was a cheap snide unhelpful comment.

I note you use "they". Who are these "they"?. You are saying that I have such influence that these "they" stopped posting information because I bowed gracefully out of a interminable discussion. The use of a vague "they" is a well known technique for trying to intimidate. I am not intimidated.

My comment some time ago about not taking up space was an attempt to bow out of a discussion where it was obvious you and I would not agree. One of us had to stop wasting space and I decided it would be me.

So now you object to me asking for help and guidance. Ungenerous of you to say the least.

If you have nothing informative or helpful to say why do you respond so rudely?

I always try to have a constructive relationship with fellow members: that doesn't seem to be possible in this thread.

[PayForIt]

Maybe and I am guessing here as to why? They read what you said and took it a face value, thought you were saying good bye to Mongering in London.

Yet again Jojo you want to have a dig at ANOTHER ISG member who seeks to criticise the lack of help on the London thread. You've rounded on Myrrh before, sniped at me, and did not have a single word to rebut Optimists very reasonable and sensibly worded post. As I've said before: some members of the London forum just cannot accept ANY criticism of London or its mongering options. Your response to Optimist is another perfect example of that lack of ability to take criticism. No help for Optimist, none for Myrrh, and telling me to ask a policeman where to monger. London hang your head in shame!😰💤✈️👎

[Jojosun]

I've just spent half hour reading the thread in the hope of finding some information. Why is there no information about places which are operating within the law? Or about providers who are on aw or vivastreet etc. Not even an offer to share info via PM to trusted ISG members. Not even any detail about the Leicester Square property mentioned.

Doing the legwork from scratch is too time consuming. Several calls to a number shown in a phone box or on aw, before getting a reply, eventually getting a street name, making a tube trip, then having to call again for the number, probably not getting an answer and a return tube trip with no result. An hour or more down the drain. Even if one gets to see the girl it turns out that the fit spinner expected turns out to be a fat, if very nice, person. Just my experience: limited for obvious reasons.And the reason I haven't done any reports on London..

As I rarely monger in London I think it would be inappropriate for me to continue to take up space here .

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Maybe and I am guessing here as to why? They read what you said and took it a face value, thought you were saying good bye to Mongering in London.

[Optimist]

I've just spent half hour reading the thread in the hope of finding some information. Why is there no information about places which are operating within the law? Or about providers who are on aw or vivastreet etc. Not even an offer to share info via PM to trusted ISG members. Not even any detail about the Leicester Square property mentioned.

Doing the legwork from scratch is too time consuming. Several calls to a number shown in a phone box or on aw, before getting a reply, eventually getting a street name, making a tube trip, then having to call again for the number, probably not getting an answer and a return tube trip with no result. An hour or more down the drain. Even if one gets to see the girl it turns out that the fit spinner expected turns out to be a fat, if very nice, person. Just my experience: limited for obvious reasons.And the reason I haven't done any reports on London

Don't know about never had it so good. Gone are most of the walk ups in Soho and Shepherds Market, where one could check out half a dozen girls in half an hour.

Surely there is some information which can be shared?

In the meantime I'll just read "Secret History of Georgian London: How the Wages of Sin Shaped the Capital". The past is another country.