Jakarta

[IllusionHeart]

Shocking. Who would have thought there were some people doing drugs at that place?

I never went there anyway.

There was always a corner at Millies where these things were available. Similarly I think at Golden crown as well.

[Smoothy]

I am now coming around to my wife's contemptuous opinion of my freeness with tips to everyone from the waiter at dinner to the valet parker. She has always claimed it didn't make a blind bit of difference and all I did was come across as a naive soft touch, I think (as so often when it comes to my better half) she may have a point.

Wow, where can I find one like that? My Indo girlfriend is always bitching that I don't tip enough. She even wants me to tip guys like the bluebird stand taxi guy when we cue at the mall and other such ridiculous things. I notice that nobody else tips those guys.

[LifeIsABeach]

Now I have no problem with what the bloke did, good luck to him, it is part of his culture never paying the first price offered. He showed an admirably business-like demeanor as he got his way doing something which no bule guy would ever have the effrontery to do (and why China will be ruling the world in 50 years time).
That gentlemen sums up how we western guys are viewed. We are cash cows, who can be given a perfunctory service in the knowledge that we will over pay and then tip handsomely before moving on to work the real tough jobs, the local guys and especially Chinese men, who will need a really top-notch performance but who will still pay less money.
Bear that in mind the next time you guiltily hand over a tip even though you weren't particularly happy with the service, think of the Chinese guy in the next room who is working his girl like billy-oh knowing he won't be paying as much as you.

Just to let you know, not all bules act like you did. I stopped the girl from gulping down the first drink and hence there was no confrontation. Been around and know the ropes. Just be aware of the circumstances and be smart while having fun. You did what you did and others necessarily do not do the same.

[Lost99]

Well, it is interesting that he said about a year ago I had no credibility on this board because I carried my passport with me while in Jakarta. He has since admitted the reason he does not do so himself is because he would likely lose his passport owing to the fact he is usually drunk while traveling around the city. It made me wonder the state of his intoxication when he does post some of his negative posts here.

In any event, I also wonder how many of those who were caught up in the Blok M raid without their passport were in that position because they were following his advice posted here about not carrying such documentation while in Jakarta, advice that would have cost them either 25 million rupiah, or a night in a virtual jail.

This guy is not very smooth and I just ignore his useless advice completely, and caution others from doing so likewise. I actually kinda feel sad for him, as he spends most of this time posting in other international tourist sex forums instead of building a real life in Jakarta and connecting with local people. He doesn't have a KITAs or working permit to live in Indo, so he needs to do constant Visa runs in neighboring countries such as Singapore, Thailand etc. I'm always weary of trusting people like this because they are basically transients who are unwanted by the countries they live in. If he could actually attract real woman and build a real life, he wouldn't be running away from the States to live in exile in Indo, and trying to find validation from random strangers over the internet.

[Hilo77]

Following the interesting post about the excessive tip seeking of staff at places like Classic I had a couple of experiences in the past few days that have really made me change my attitude to tipping and service standards.

Previously I would have been free with the tips, I worked in my youth in the service industry and I know what a difference tips can make, not just to a server's income but also to his or her standards of service. There was a link and given that a) we are not talking about huge sums in relative terms and b) I don't want to come across as a cheap charlie in an environment where men are after all judged on their ability to provide cash to attractive young women I was open with my wallet.

However that has changed and I am now coming around to my wife's contemptuous opinion of my freeness with tips to everyone from the waiter at dinner to the valet parker. She has always claimed it didn't make a blind bit of difference and all I did was come across as a naive soft touch, I think (as so often when it comes to my better half) she may have a point.

Let me explain. I was in Classic the other night. The dancers were working the floor and one quite fit tall girl came to my table. She was enthusiastic, allowed my hands to roam freely and also groped me in the appropriate places. In no time flat she had run up 10 shots (Rp 35 k ea) and I called it quits. As is customary in Classic when you hit 10 drinks a floor manager comes over to confirm you ran up the bill and have no objection, I hadn't and signed accordingly. The dancer gave me a slobbering kiss and then opened her panties for a tip, which I provided. All told maybe a couple of minutes, I didn't mind the bill I had run up, I'm a big boy I know the form. I didn't think I had bought the right to her undying affection, she worked the session well and each of us were satisfied with the results of the transaction.

But shortly thereafter I witnessed something that soured me very rapidly. At the table next to mine were seated two ethnic Chinese gentlemen. She worked one of them hard, giving him the same treatment I got, with one exception, she spent at least 15 minutes with him, and was much, much more forceful, mounting him, pulling her panties down to knee length, and as I watched I noted that he too had run up 10 drinks. The slight resentment that I felt at the difference in time and service erupted into outrage when I saw what happened next.

He called it quits and the floor manager came over to confirm the bill and this is when my eyes went out in stalks. He casually counted out the empty glasses, kept four at his place and pushed six over to the manager. He was negotiating the bill, willing to pay for four but not all 10. Now at this point where I come from two large bullet-headed bouncers arrive at the table and end negotiations promptly, but not here. The dancer and the manager got into mock-angry haggling with the bloke as you might see at a vegetable market. The bill went back and forth, the glasses were slid around the table for a good 20 minutes before they settled on six glasses (as one suspects they all knew they would).

Now I have no problem with what the bloke did, good luck to him, it is part of his culture never paying the first price offered. He showed an admirably business-like demeanor as he got his way doing something which no bule guy would ever have the effrontery to do (and why China will be ruling the world in 50 years time). What I objected to was the dancer's attitude, she stood there, panties down, topless, cajoling him, grabbing his hand and thrusting it to her crotch, hugging him, and when the deal was agreed smiling broadly and giving him a big kiss. He in other words had got the equivalent of 20 times the dance I had got for 60% of the price.

That gentlemen sums up how we western guys are viewed. We are cash cows, who can be given a perfunctory service in the knowledge that we will over pay and then tip handsomely before moving on to work the real tough jobs, the local guys and especially Chinese men, who will need a really top-notch performance but who will still pay less money.

Bear that in mind the next time you guiltily hand over a tip even though you weren't particularly happy with the service, think of the Chinese guy in the next room who is working his girl like billy-oh knowing he won't be paying as much as you.

I've written enough, I'll mention the other experience later.

[Koperen Klaas]

Shocking. Who would have thought there were some people doing drugs at that place?

I never went there anyway.

Correction to my previous post:

ADj. Comm. Sunarto was arrested for using drugs on October 8. The closing date of Mille's is yet to be decided.

Sounds to me like the negotiations have started.

Regards,

Ko

[Smoothy]

The Jakarta Post reported today that Mille's has been closed by authorities after another case of drug use was discovered. This time a policeman was the culprit.

Surprise, surprise.

Regards,

Ko.

Shocking. Who would have thought there were some people doing drugs at that place?

I never went there anyway.

[Koperen Klaas]

The Jakarta Post reported today that Mille's has been closed by authorities after another case of drug use was discovered. This time a policeman was the culprit.

Surprise, surprise.

Regards,

Ko.

[WrinkleFree]

While I was booking my room at Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni, I found out that this hotel has "men's only" spa at 5th floor. It is called Sparadise Spa Harmoni. Have anyone tried this spa? Could you share some info?

I stayed at the Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni October 2015 as the previous member mentioned you will be able to choose the girl from a computer monitor and the photos can be typical 'selfies' and photos with 'soft' filters to make the women look a bit younger and try to blur the flaws away. Of course not all the girls are available and it did seem the prettier ones were booked already.

I was going for the HJ only and was not offered any 'extras' by the girl. Last year's price was 330 K+tax (normal room) and everyday from 11 am-5 pm is happy hour so the price is reduced to 290 K+tax- but pricing may have changed in 2016. As I know the price includes massage + HJ only. The normal room had a shower inside and was very clean.

[John Smith 2112]

While I was booking my room at Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni, I found out that this hotel has "men's only" spa at 5th floor. It is called Sparadise Spa Harmoni. Have anyone tried this spa? Could you share some info?

You look through pictures of girls on a computer monitor, and pick a number. If you are lucky, you will get a girl who looks similar to the picture. She will then lead you back to a private room with a shower and a mattress for doing the massage. After the massage comes the negotiation with the girl for any extras, watch out for sticker shock! 500 k for topless he seems to be standard. You could probably negotiate for more extras if the girl likes you.

Afterwards, you take the elevator at the back of the building down to the carpark, so there's no walk of shame through the lobby.

[Intois]

While I was booking my room at Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni, I found out that this hotel has "men's only" spa at 5th floor. It is called Sparadise Spa Harmoni. Have anyone tried this spa? Could you share some info?

[ABCinLA]

https://goo.gl/A6XCa5 This is a link to a a rather provactive article regarding where Classic, Travel, King Cross and Maliboro get lots of their girls from. This is the first time I read it but its been around for a few years and I don't know if its been discussed about before. It does make you want to make sure you have a condom on for full service; however, I do know of someone who just got back from there and batted 5 out of 6 for sticking it in without one. Anyway will be back there in the middle of October with two friends who actually intend to stay at Classic for their entire visit to Jakarta. What can I say I'm not perfect.

[Offshore Swell]

Lived in Asia 15+ years and done the rounds of all the usual places, in Jakarta been through Alexis, CJs, BATS, etc. But last night finally made my way to Malioboro, unfortunately. Found the girls very marginal in quality when compared with places like Alexis. Mama-san was nice enough and brought the girls over. I planned to take 2 girls, picked one and then another and was then greeted with the usual 'they need to pick their friends so they can work well together'. So, I let one of the girls pick her 'friend' and we went off to the room. On the way we need to stop at the desk to get condoms. Condom charge is rp100 k for 2 condoms. Turns out these are Asian sized condoms, very small and too tight around the cock. So if you go, bring your own condoms!

The room was quite nice actually, but that was the end of the joy. Girl #1 says her friend has never been with a Bule before and is fearful of the size of my cock. I'm thinking 'why did you insist on bringing her with us then?' We showered and got on the bed, and then the condom came out for the blowjob. Nothing more erection killing than getting a blowjob with a condom. So eventually I fuck girl #1, and it's very much like a starfish. Then I move on to #2, the one who had never been fucked by a Bule. First, she tries to dodge giving the blowjob, but I insist I want to see her slutty Indonesian lips wrapped around my cock. She gives in and sucks my cock for a brief while. With condom. Now I'm moving to position to fuck her, and the bahasa is flying fast and furious between the girls. Girl #1 asks if I just want to fuck her again and finish in her because her friend is worried about the size of my cock. Again, why bring her in to this is she doesn't want Bule cock? Well, I was having none of it, so I turned Girl #2 over on her stomach, grabbed under her hips on each side and pulled her ass cheeks firmly against my hips so that my cock went right up her pussy. I proceeded to fuck her good and deep so that she'll remember Bule cock!

So at the end the girls each ask for a tip, and I'm assuming that is normal as in the other places like this and I tip each girl. Then I start to go downstairs to leave back to Shangri La and BATS as quickly as possible after this soulless fuck session. As I reach the staircase, the guy sitting there asks for a tip, and also the random guy sitting next to him. Typical BS that he keeps the rooms in order, so I tip them both and as I start down that stairs, they say also their other friend needs a tip. Complete BS at this point, but it gets better. I go to the front desk to settle my bill and it has condoms on the bill. I tell them I paid the woman upstairs because she said it was cash for condoms. 'No' they tell me, 'you shouldn't pay cash for the condoms'. Screw it, at this point, I just want to leave. Now as I head out the door, there are 2 security guys, some other random dude in a uniform and a woman, and they all ask for tips, making it very clear I won't be getting out the door without giving tips. I tip all those assholes and literally as I'm getting in the taxi, the security guy holding open the taxi door asks for a tip and won't close the door until I give it to him. The taxi driver is actually laughing about the situation.

Never again, period, never. All these years in Asia and I thought I had seen all the BS, but Malioboro now holds a special place in my heart for being a complete waste. Makes Alexis look like the Magic Kingdom. I was so happy to get back to BATS (where I never should have strayed from!) find a sexy Indonesian party girl and get completely pampered by Asian sexiness in the comfort of my hotel room!

I have pics and video of the BATS girl sucking my cock. I'll post those soon!

Ha ha, that's a funny story. The word would have been spreading like wildfire that there was a tipper coming down the stairs. Quick, straighten that collar, a quick practise flash of that special toothy smile that Indonesians reserve for bule, "OK, here he comes".

You guys need to treat this one like the theatre that it is. Draw yourself up to your full scowling height and give the tip requester your best "Did you just fart" look. That will be the end of the matter.

That is not to say that you shouldn't tip. Tipping is cultural in Indonesia and can play an important part in things but it is done discreetly with a folded up note with little dialogue. Say to the guy cleaning the toilet or to somebody who has helped you out. It can make a difference.

OS.

[StaticCouch]

I had totally opposite experience on two occasions back to back, I was recently in Jakarta and based on my experience the places which are old are better then the newer ones like in case of Alexis. I found Alexis girls to be arrogant and had to bolt out of that place within few minutes!

Tried Malio since it was near to my hotel and this place is definitely not as slick as Alexis but this time I wanted to avoid locals and go for CIS and believe you me they are slightly expensive but the performances both time just blew my mind! Malio has special place and is at top of my list to monger in Jakarta. Both girls get 11/10 on performance and attitude and being as natural as one can get.

Fortunately, I did not get ripped off at the 2nd level counter or at the ground level. The Security guards do ask for tips which I politely refused and they were fine. After my 2nd time, I was chatting with this girl and asked her how was Alexis, she said it was good but girls won't treat you good since most of the people would want to go there as it was fairly new and slick so attitude of the girls is a problem. In Malio, the CIS girls would get 1 customer in 3 days, they need to sit and parade their ass daily without anyone picking them up. Believe me there few stunners who would not get picked up. So these girls are kinda fresh and perform to please.

Totally my PoV and my experience and would definitely go back for CIS there. Locals are every where.

Stay Safe, Bang Safe.

Static.

Lived in Asia 15+ years and done the rounds of all the usual places, in Jakarta been through Alexis, CJs, BATS, etc. But last night finally made my way to Malioboro, unfortunately. Found the girls very marginal in quality when compared with places like Alexis. Mama-san was nice enough and brought the girls over. I planned to take 2 girls, picked one and then another and was then greeted with the usual 'they need to pick their friends so they can work well together'. So, I let one of the girls pick her 'friend' and we went off to the room. On the way we need to stop at the desk to get condoms. Condom charge is rp100 k for 2 condoms. Turns out these are Asian sized condoms, very small and too tight around the cock. So if you go, bring your own condoms!

The room was quite nice actually, but that was the end of the joy. Girl #1 says her friend has never been with a Bule before and is fearful of the size of my cock. I'm thinking 'why did you insist on bringing her with us then?' We showered and got on the bed, and then the condom came out for the blowjob. Nothing more erection killing than getting a blowjob with a condom. So eventually I fuck girl #1, and it's very much like a starfish. Then I move on to #2, the one who had never been fucked by a Bule. First, she tries to dodge giving the blowjob, but I insist I want to see her slutty Indonesian lips wrapped around my cock. She gives in and sucks my cock for a brief while. With condom. Now I'm moving to position to fuck her, and the bahasa is flying fast and furious between the girls. Girl #1 asks if I just want to fuck her again and finish in her because her friend is worried about the size of my cock. Again, why bring her in to this is she doesn't want Bule cock? Well, I was having none of it, so I turned Girl #2 over on her stomach, grabbed under her hips on each side and pulled her ass cheeks firmly against my hips so that my cock went right up her pussy. I proceeded to fuck her good and deep so that she'll remember Bule cock!

So at the end the girls each ask for a tip, and I'm assuming that is normal as in the other places like this and I tip each girl. Then I start to go downstairs to leave back to Shangri La and BATS as quickly as possible after this soulless fuck session. As I reach the staircase, the guy sitting there asks for a tip, and also the random guy sitting next to him. Typical BS that he keeps the rooms in order, so I tip them both and as I start down that stairs, they say also their other friend needs a tip. Complete BS at this point, but it gets better. I go to the front desk to settle my bill and it has condoms on the bill. I tell them I paid the woman upstairs because she said it was cash for condoms. 'No' they tell me, 'you shouldn't pay cash for the condoms'. Screw it, at this point, I just want to leave. Now as I head out the door, there are 2 security guys, some other random dude in a uniform and a woman, and they all ask for tips, making it very clear I won't be getting out the door without giving tips. I tip all those assholes and literally as I'm getting in the taxi, the security guy holding open the taxi door asks for a tip and won't close the door until I give it to him. The taxi driver is actually laughing about the situation.

Never again, period, never. All these years in Asia and I thought I had seen all the BS, but Malioboro now holds a special place in my heart for being a complete waste. Makes Alexis look like the Magic Kingdom. I was so happy to get back to BATS (where I never should have strayed from!) find a sexy Indonesian party girl and get completely pampered by Asian sexiness in the comfort of my hotel room!

I have pics and video of the BATS girl sucking my cock. I'll post those soon!

[LA Guy 5]

There does appear to be a clear trend of random Immigration Raids within the city, where they will detain you for not carrying a passport:

https://www.pressreader.com/indonesi...81689729190798

I"ve had this confirmed by at least one other source. Lets see what our resident KnowItAll / Asshole / Loser here has to say about not carrying your passport in the city.

Well, it is interesting that he said about a year ago I had no credibility on this board because I carried my passport with me while in Jakarta. He has since admitted the reason he does not do so himself is because he would likely lose his passport owing to the fact he is usually drunk while traveling around the city. It made me wonder the state of his intoxication when he does post some of his negative posts here.

In any event, I also wonder how many of those who were caught up in the Blok M raid without their passport were in that position because they were following his advice posted here about not carrying such documentation while in Jakarta, advice that would have cost them either 25 million rupiah, or a night in a virtual jail.