FKK FAQ

[ExpatLover]

My trip to Frankfurt is coming up. Finally! I'll be in Frankfurt on Thu, Jan 26th and Fri, Jan 27th and I'll be posting this in the Travel announcement section closer to those dates. This is my first time to a FKK club and have dilemma on these three things.

1. Out of the top 5, I was going to visit Oase on Thu and visit Sharks on Fri, but now I am in a mixed mind about Sharks. Recent reviews on LU and cleanliness are raising red flag for me. Is FKK world worth a trip or should I spend two days in Oase? I am into natural tall petite / slim, natural, not too busty providers.

2. As a first timer to a FKK, how do you negotiate or clarify service with a provider prior to the session? In Frankfurt, 50 euro gets you 30 minutes, BBBJ (not always), DFK (not always). Do providers tend to cheat with a newbie and would I be better off pretending not to be a newbie. Before the session, should I be asking the provider straight up "what's included in 50 euro, 30 minutes. Is BBBJ, DFK included?" or instead of "asking" her, "tell" her, that I am expecting these services in my 1/2 HR session.

3. Most FKKs don't have an ATM and from what I read, ATM is the best way to get dollars exchange to euros. I'll be staying close to Frankfurt airport. Are airport ATMs my best bet or are there ATMs on train stations?

Thanks in advance.

First of all keep it easy, there is no major difference between the big FKK club in Frankfurt, the best and most diverse LU will be Shark, cleanness is 0 issue all are very clean. Yes you can ask everything before what I never do, I just ask one thing if I want to do it that day is anal because some girls don't do it (less and less). You are dealing with human beings and not machines chemistry between you and the girl will be essential and the girls can also give you more in the room just because she has a good feeling with you.

[UltraHappy]

If you haven't already been with the girl, if you want certain services, I think it is best to ascertain whether she does them, and if there is an extra charge, so you can decide if it is worth going with her if she doesn't do them or upcharges for standard services. During the initial conversation, I always ask the girl what we could do in the room, giving her a chance to tell me. If she does't mention a service I want, say DFK, I ask "no DFK? And let her add it or say she doesn't do it or charges extra. If she asks instead what do I want to do, then I will tell her and, if we come a a mutual agreement about the session, go to the room. If no agreement is reached, then I say thanks anyway and move on.

Yes, I do this sometimes too, especially when I am wavering or undecided about pulling the trigger. Sometimes, I use this question as a tie-breaker as to whether I will pull the trigger on a girl I am struggling to make a decision on. On the other hand, asking this question could be perceived as a pre-room invitation to negotiate, whereas she might have given away DFK without any negotiation once you were both comfortable with each other in the room. Since I have been experiencing a high rate of DFK success lately at Oase, for me, personally, I typically avoid this question. If a girl doesn't DFK, then I am simply much less likely to extend or repeat with her.

Some girls don't want to decide whether they will give DFK until they've had a chance to smell the guy's breath and are comfortable that he is clean. In this situation, asking the girl upfront forces her to say no because that's the safer answer for her until she's had a chance to evaluate whether she's comfortable providing DFK to that specific customer. That's one of the reasons I wrote that everyone has to find what works for them. There are so many factors for everyone to consider in whether it makes sense to ask this question upfront. For newbies, it might make sense to just go with the flow and see what happens for the first 4-5 rooms before deciding whether to filter upfront on a DFK basis -- unless DFK is that supremely important, in which case, ask away. Maybe I am overthinking things, but I sometimes fear that asking about DFK upfront might sometimes provoke a "no" that would have normally been a "yes" in the room had I not asked up front. I have absolutely no scientific data to back up that pure speculation however.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Snip. There are many schools of thought regarding pre-room negotiations. I subscribe to the style Optimist promotes below. I would be very wary of "just telling a girl that you expect such and such services in a half hour session" as that would likely come off as disrespectful or rude, depending on your tone and attitude. In any case, that would likely not set a good tone for your interactions. Better that you act a little like you're very excited to be meeting such a nice girl at a bar -- yes, something like that kind of vibe. If you're lucky, your friendly, smiley attitude will be infectious and she will reciprocate and you will in turn benefit. Snip.

If you haven't already been with the girl, if you want certain services, I think it is best to ascertain whether she does them, and if there is an extra charge, so you can decide if it is worth going with her if she doesn't do them or upcharges for standard services. During the initial conversation, I always ask the girl what we could do in the room, giving her a chance to tell me. If she does't mention a service I want, say DFK, I ask "no DFK? And let her add it or say she doesn't do it or charges extra. If she asks instead what do I want to do, then I will tell her and, if we come a a mutual agreement about the session, go to the room. If no agreement is reached, then I say thanks anyway and move on.

[Member #4581]

Have fun (actually this does not need to be stated since it is 99.5% certain that you will have an amazing time -- just remember, you will have only ONE FKK first time ever, so take it slow and drink in all of your experiences for your mental memory book to cherish later when you unfortunately have to return back to USA sex prison).

As always, UH provides a most excellent advice articulated most perfectly. I can never understand how you write such long pieces so well with no mistakes whatsoever. My resume has more errors and typos than what you write so casually on ISG, LOL.

I really liked what you said about having only one first time FKK experience. So nicely stated. You can lose your FKK virginity just once.

Even now, because I am in Germany only a few times a year, on the first day of clubbing, I am full of nervous anticipation (by the fourth or fifth day, I am dick tired, LOL). But nothing can match the first time I was in Oase a few years ago. OMG. What a sight, I went absolutely crazy.

Sometimes, I see total newbies asking so many questions about what they should do on their first ever visit, how to negotiate, how to "fend off aggressive girls seeking a room" etc. I think they worry too much. Unless they are very experienced mongers elsewhere and are already somewhat jaded, a first time at Sharks or Oase is quite mind blowing. What is so bad about a girl asking you twice and thrice to fuck her for 50 bucks. That was something I could only dream of, before I was at my first FKK. Just go there and enjoy. And thank your stars for being one of the lucky guys in the world to enjoy it.

[JBoarman]

BBBJ is standard in a 30 min session until June 30.

If you only have two day, do Oase and Sharks. Oase has lingerie day on Thursday.

HB.

Thank you Optimist, HB and UltraHappy! Is lingerie day at Oase good or bad from customer perspective? In terms of provider assets being hidden and LU vs crowd ratio on Thursdays at Oase. I was leaning towards Oase on Thu and Sharks on Fri, because a lot of posts mentioned about great LU at Sharks on Fri, Sat and not so good on other days.

[UltraHappy]

2. As a first timer to a FKK, how do you negotiate or clarify service with a provider prior to the session? In Frankfurt, 50 euro gets you 30 minutes, BBBJ (not always), DFK (not always). Do providers tend to cheat with a newbie and would I be better off pretending not to be a newbie. Before the session, should I be asking the provider straight up "what's included in 50 euro, 30 minutes. Is BBBJ, DFK included?" or instead of "asking" her, "tell" her, that I am expecting these services in my 1/2 HR session.

3. Most FKKs don't have an ATM and from what I read, ATM is the best way to get dollars exchange to euros. I'll be staying close to Frankfurt airport. Are airport ATMs my best bet or are there ATMs on train stations?

Thanks in advance.

As HB says, BBBJ is included in the basic service, so no need to inquire about that service. It is a given in Hessen FKKs (well, at least until July 1st). For the most part, no girl in a Hessen FKK would even think of suggesting a CBJ.

There are many schools of thought regarding pre-room negotiations. I subscribe to the style Optimist promotes below. I would be very wary of "just telling a girl that you expect such and such services in a half hour session" as that would likely come off as disrespectful or rude, depending on your tone and attitude. In any case, that would likely not set a good tone for your interactions. Better that you act a little like you're very excited to be meeting such a nice girl at a bar -- yes, something like that kind of vibe. If you're lucky, your friendly, smiley attitude will be infectious and she will reciprocate and you will in turn benefit.

For your first few rooms, I would recommend simple, short 1-2 minute chats pre-room to see if you feel like you're getting along well with her. Then go off to the room and have a nice time. Especially when you are new, many girls will ask up front how long you want to stay in the room (half hour or one hour). Since you don't know if the girl is good or not, you obviously can't answer this question yet because you haven't spent any time with her. So, you will have to find polite ways to respond to this question. There are many options, but one option is to say something like I'm not sure yet, let's just take our time and see how things go, I will pay for our time together now matter how long we stay in the room, so no need for you to watch the clock. Whether you go to Oase or Sharks, I recommend trying at least 4-5 girls at each -- don't base your opinion of the entire club and line-up based on one or two bad experiences because both clubs have a small number of bad apples. That's just a fact of life in both of these clubs. But by and large, most girls in both of these clubs and quite nice and delightful.

In the end though, you will need to find what works best for you. Go to Sharks on Thursday and go to Oase on Friday. Don't make any final judgements about either club based on the line-up before 6:30 pm. Each day, the line-up will be optimal at both clubs from 6 pm to midnight but you will have a good time no matter when you arrive and leave (in any case, much better than wanking off in your hotel room alone for sure).

In general, don't use ATMs at the clubs to avoid their higher fees. I generally avoid airport ATMs because I have a fear of airport ATMs (though you will obviously have to overcome this fear if you don't already have any Euros to get you out of the airport, whether that be by train, taxi, or rental car). Banks in Germany are as plentiful as McDonalds. Just search for banks on Google Maps and use one of their ATMs. ATMs are generally not found at the smaller train stations, although you will have no problem finding them at both the Hauptbahnhof (the central train station) and Hauptwache (another big one). Bring two ATM cards with you from different banks in case you have a problem with one of them (you of course notified your banks ahead of time of your travel so that your cards won't be blocked abroad). You'll probably want to avoid ATMs directly in the RLD area since there are a couple ATMs in that area that charge hefty fees beyond the normal ATM fee that other ATMs charge (though they disclose this to you by requiring you to click on a message that reads something like "I confirm that I'm about to get screwed by your stupid big charges," but if you forgot to change the ATM language to English, you might miss this disclosure and confirmation.

Because your trip is coming up so soon, you won't have time to get a free Schwab checking account with debit card which would give you the advantage of no foreign transaction fees on your ATM withdrawals. But you will apply for one at least 6-7 weeks before your next trip so that you have one for next time. The Schwab checking account also refunds you all ATM charges. Plus, the Schwab checking account is totally free if you link it to your Schwab brokerage account (there is no obligation to actually use the brokerage account).

Have fun (actually this does not need to be stated since it is 99.5% certain that you will have an amazing time -- just remember, you will have only ONE FKK first time ever, so take it slow and drink in all of your experiences for your mental memory book to cherish later when you unfortunately have to return back to USA sex prison).

[Hessen Bub]

BBBJ is standard in a 30 min session until June 30.

If you only have two day, do Oase and Sharks. Oase has lingerie day on Thursday.

HB.

[Optimist]

1. Other more frequent clubgoers may have more helpful opinions than me. On a two day trip maybe World is too far out unless you have a car, in which case I would choose it over the other two clubs: but others will tell you why they prefer Sharks or World: all a matter of personal taste. I wouldn't worry about the cleanliness at Sharks: the lineup there is likely to suit you. Cleanliness in FKKs is generally pretty good,: I would worry more about the cleanliness of my airplane.

2. Best not to indicate that you are a one-off tourist. You can lie as much as you want, but if you do, don't get upset if a girl lies to you. If there is any service which is crucial for you then maybe asking first is a good idea. Personally I just go by my gut feeling, but this doesn't work for all clients. If you are worried about being targetted as a newbie then Oase I believe may be more difficult for you, but it all depends on you: most girls are scrupulously honest and if treated with respect will be fine, as long as you do not act like a clueless man with more money than sense. Remember most girls come from countries where 300 euros a month is an ok wage, so you will seem rich to them.

3 Plenty of ATMs in Frankfurt. Maybe best to get a prepaid currency card in your home country if you want the best rates. USA members have discussed at length which are the best options. I like also to take a fair bit of cash euros in case of glitches in the banking system (one trip my cards were refused by my home country bank as I was outside my home country, so I was grateful to have emergency cash).

Relax and enjoy your trip. Don't worry about getting the perfect trip: it will be great if you take your time and relax into it.

The biggest danger is that after one trip you'll only be able to think about the next one!!!

[JBoarman]

My trip to Frankfurt is coming up. Finally! I'll be in Frankfurt on Thu, Jan 26th and Fri, Jan 27th and I'll be posting this in the Travel announcement section closer to those dates. This is my first time to a FKK club and have dilemma on these three things.

1. Out of the top 5, I was going to visit Oase on Thu and visit Sharks on Fri, but now I am in a mixed mind about Sharks. Recent reviews on LU and cleanliness are raising red flag for me. Is FKK world worth a trip or should I spend two days in Oase? I am into natural tall petite / slim, natural, not too busty providers.

2. As a first timer to a FKK, how do you negotiate or clarify service with a provider prior to the session? In Frankfurt, 50 euro gets you 30 minutes, BBBJ (not always), DFK (not always). Do providers tend to cheat with a newbie and would I be better off pretending not to be a newbie. Before the session, should I be asking the provider straight up "what's included in 50 euro, 30 minutes. Is BBBJ, DFK included?" or instead of "asking" her, "tell" her, that I am expecting these services in my 1/2 HR session.

3. Most FKKs don't have an ATM and from what I read, ATM is the best way to get dollars exchange to euros. I'll be staying close to Frankfurt airport. Are airport ATMs my best bet or are there ATMs on train stations?

Thanks in advance.

[Hessen Bub]

Was -5 to -10 Celsius (at night) in the last days in Frankfurt. Clubs are heated, streets are free, all good.

HB.

[Member #4581]

Frankfurt is not that cold. You need a good jacket but that's it. Gloves won't hurt. Snow caps etc are optional, I don't need them. If you are not planing to walk around for long stretches and mostly indoors, then I think a winter coat is enough. IMO.

[Sirioja]

Okay. Finally schedule a sex vacation to Germany for FKK clubs in Hesse and NRW.

I have never been to Germany in winter, though.

I see the weather forecast that it is snowing in Hesse and NRW!

I am used to a warm environment where the winter temperature is still around 10see to 15C.

Never been to a place where the temperature is under 5C, let alone 0C.

Do I have to be cautious about anything regarding my dress?

Do I need a snow hat, scarves, gloves etc to cover my whole body?

I am worry that I may get some hurt due to frozen or something like that.

Minus 5 sometimes at the moment. In France, I had minus 10 at night and on motorway, liquid to wash car glasses froze, but dry hair, so not so cold feeling. Not Alaska nor Siberia. On beginning of July 2015 , it was 35 degrees in Germany and it was difficult for girls, at the moment You just have to warm them, they have often cold hands and feet. FKK robes are warm, girls don t stay in the garden, even some are able to go in the cold to smoke. Just move your blood. With strong spirit, human is able to survive everywhere. Or go in Summer time.

[Solo Traveler]

Okay. Finally schedule a sex vacation to Germany for FKK clubs in Hesse and NRW.

I have never been to Germany in winter, though.

I see the weather forecast that it is snowing in Hesse and NRW!

I am used to a warm environment where the winter temperature is still around 10°see to 15°C.

Never been to a place where the temperature is under 5°C, let alone 0°C.

Do I have to be cautious about anything regarding my dress?

Do I need a snow hat, scarves, gloves etc to cover my whole body?

I am worry that I may get some hurt due to frozen or something like that.

[Carpe Viam]

How did this happen? Did the girls complain or did the club notice?

Staying all day with a Happy Hour rate and watching the girls and guests with grimace should not please the management of a club.

[Wolvenvacht]

Okay. I have one more serious question here.

Please do not joke around.

As a non-EU passport holder, every time I fly to Germany, I will be asked some questions by the immigration officer.

"What is your purpose of visiting Germany?

Before, I never talked about my purpose of visiting FKK clubs or any P4P sex venues.

I just said "I come to Germany for vacation. I will visit Hesse, NRW, etc to enjoy the scenery and food."

However, next time, I do not want to drain my brain and make up stories about this.

Can I just say honestly "I come to Germany to visit the FKK clubs. I will go to clubs in Hesse, NRW, etc?"

As far as I know, FKK clubs are totally legal in Germany. Visiting a FKK club is like visiting a gym or a restaurant for Germany men. It is a normal and acceptable behavior. Am I right?

I'm quite sure they're not asking for that kind of detailed information.

They just want to establish if you are entering for business purposes or tourism as that requires different types of visa. So just answering "tourism" should be all right.