Kyiv

[Sorbonne]

I would just like to rave about Andrei, the most honest, reliable, genuinely kind pimp I've ever met. We met in a simple but cool restaurant that makes its own beer, had a mug each ourselves, talked about regular things, Kiev, life in general, then proceeded to discuss business. He asked my preferences then called several of his contacts and seemed really eager to please me. Then at the very first place he brought me, my jaw dropped to the floor. The girls were absolutely fucking stunning! And when I picked a girl to take to the room and I was already inside with her taking off my clothes, Andrei simply texted me to enjoy myself. Without taking any money! Who the fuck does that?! I texted him back, wait man I have to pay you! But he just said don't worry I'll see you tomorrow! Then as I was falling asleep he texted me again that he has another girl he can bring to my hotel. But I was tired already having cum twice, so I said tomorrow for sure. This guy is something else. I will voluntarily give him a nice tip. Pm me if you want his info. I'll write a separate review for the girls.

I have to woner why he never returned my call back in September.

[Nallen]

Hello!

I have been reading in this forum for awhile. I have also been in Kiev before and used mamba to find girls like many others do.

But I found this Backpage site and wonder how legit this is.

There is some really hot girls there that I want to meet for 50 $ hour. But are they legit? Have anyone tried this website?

I saw someone write about it some time ago, and it was legit that time with that one lady. But is there more of you that share your experience?

Cheers!

Nallen.

[HugeDickMan]

I would just like to rave about Andrei, the most honest, reliable, genuinely kind pimp I've ever met. We met in a simple but cool restaurant that makes its own beer, had a mug each ourselves, talked about regular things, Kiev, life in general, then proceeded to discuss business. He asked my preferences then called several of his contacts and seemed really eager to please me. Then at the very first place he brought me, my jaw dropped to the floor. The girls were absolutely fucking stunning! And when I picked a girl to take to the room and I was already inside with her taking off my clothes, Andrei simply texted me to enjoy myself. Without taking any money! Who the fuck does that?! I texted him back, wait man I have to pay you! But he just said don't worry I'll see you tomorrow! Then as I was falling asleep he texted me again that he has another girl he can bring to my hotel. But I was tired already having cum twice, so I said tomorrow for sure. This guy is something else. I will voluntarily give him a nice tip. Pm me if you want his info. I'll write a separate review for the girls.

[Jojosun]

I reported her to the management yesterday and they took her profile down last night. Now she has posted a new profile in the Ukraine section of Eurogirlsescort, with her own website showing the fake photos. A guy in Ukraine is behind all this.

http://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escor...e_33&_fid=ya6k

Someone is using the same exact photos with the name of Masha in Istanbul, here is the link.

http://escortinturkeygirls2.com/girl/masha/

Do not fall for this scam artist, I lost 250 euros.

In my opinion Ukraine online escorts are as honest as the Nigerian emails that everyone gets and tells you that you have won 2 million dollars and just send them 5000 dollars to release the money.

Be very careful with Ukraine online escorts.

Way back around Dec2012 I had a longer encounter online with a Mamba girl who didn't want money for travel at first. Long story short, she did in the end but didn't get any as I first asked for opinions on here and planned counter responses, Scam, or No Scam?

Will post the links with posts for the benefit of newbies about the scam.

[Deer1234]

You will not have a chance with the oligarchs and they are not worth the effort and your money. Your chances are much better at simple places like Radio Hall. There will be quite good girls there and easy to get in contact with them.

Thank you for your information. I have never heard of Radio Hall.

[DramaFree11]

I reported her to the management yesterday and they took her profile down last night. Now she has posted a new profile in the Ukraine section of Eurogirlsescort, with her own website showing the fake photos. A guy in Ukraine is behind all this.

http://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escor...e_33&_fid=ya6k

Someone is using the same exact photos with the name of Masha in Istanbul, here is the link.

http://escortinturkeygirls2.com/girl/masha/

Do not fall for this scam artist, I lost 250 euros.

She told me her name was Tetiana but The owner of this fine website (Mr. Jackson) won't allow me to reveal her alleged last name that she gave me to buy her round trip tickets..

I hope everyone learns from this. Most of the pictures on-line in Ukraine are fake, this is the norm, not the exception.

[YerevanBatumi]

I reported her to the management yesterday and they took her profile down last night. Now she has posted a new profile in the Ukraine section of Eurogirlsescort, with her own website showing the fake photos. A guy in Ukraine is behind all this.

http://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escor...e_33&_fid=ya6k

Someone is using the same exact photos with the name of Masha in Istanbul, here is the link.

http://escortinturkeygirls2.com/girl/masha/

Do not fall for this scam artist, I lost 250 euros.

She told me her name was Tetiana but The owner of this fine website (Mr. Jackson) won't allow me to reveal her alleged last name that she gave me to buy her round trip tickets.

Most of the independent girls in the Ukraine section of Eurogirlsescort website are fake and run by the same guy trying to scam people and depart them from their hard earned money.

In my opinion Ukraine online escorts are as honest as the Nigerian emails that everyone gets and tells you that you have won 2 million dollars and just send them 5000 dollars to release the money.

Be very careful with Ukraine online escorts.

[CallSign Papa]

I told her it is no go unless we do a Skype video chat, which she refuses, so that is a big red flag. I spent 250 euros on the round trip ticket, I will just eat the cost of the ticket and never buy any online escort with no reviews a ticket in the future. Lesson learned.

Yep, a relatively expensive lesson learned the hard way. Thanks for sharing though, undoubtedly it'll help someone who may be tempted to try the same thing.

[Tits_Lover]

http://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escor...BaLevel%5D=yes
She says she is independent, I doubt it with all the emails back and forth and I think the agency she works for is tied to organized crime in Ukraine.

You can check the headers of the Emails to see the IP of the sender plus the OS used and other stuff. You can check if it was the same PC sending them and you can do a geo location of the IP to see if they come from the same place.

It should be easy to verify if they are all from the same person.

[YerevanBatumi]

Unfortunately I bought her tickets before she sent me an email saying the following.

In her last email she stated the following:

"And of course in the internet I do not use my real photo!

So she admitted to lying and trying to scam people based on a fake picture. She is a scam artist, probably a fat guy from Ukraine who was emailing me back and forth pretending to be a female escort, just like happy escorts website in Yerevan, that wanted me to send them 500 euros via western union before I met her. This Ukrainian lady with the name of Tetiana, aka, Annastasia, has not yet asked me to wire her 1200 euros via western union. She has no reviews, refuses to do a Skype video chat, and she is asking me about my real name and exact address of my luxury apt in Yerevan where I am staying at. I told her no way, you have admitted to lying and are a proven liar and I told her I don't give my real name to prostitutes. I am in Yerevan now, so I went to the Ukraine international air office bought her tickets and the airline did not ask for my name or anything, I paid in cash, they only asked for my phone number In Yerevan. I believe the other photos she has sent me are also fake as well and are from the world wide web.

I told her it is no go unless we do a Skype video chat, which she refuses, so that is a big red flag. I spent 250 euros on the round trip ticket, I will just eat the cost of the ticket and never buy any online escort with no reviews a ticket in the future even if they give me their passport number, date of birth, alleged real name, phn number, etc. Specially If they refuse a Skype video chat. Lesson learned.

Take the chance. Buy her the plane ticket. If she doesn't show up, then change the date of the return trip to the same day, so that it is unusable. Only pay her after services are rendered. .

[Bimbo Boy]

http://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escor...BaLevel%5D=yes

She wanted me to fly her to where I am now, which is not Ukraine and wanted 1200 euros for 2 days, she claims to do anal and bare back blow job and GFE.

She says she is independent, I doubt it with all the emails back and forth and I think the agency she works for is tied to organized crime in Ukraine.

I asked for more pictures, she sent me these that I am uploading.

I asked to do a Skype video so that I can be sure those photos are hers, she refused and gave me another number which is not the same one on her profile to talk to her. Red flags.

She said she was born on the 30th of June 1992. She gave me this info to buy her a round trip air ticket. She even gave me her passport number and expiration date. She uses the name Annastasia in her profile on the escort site.

Any help in regards to her would be appreciated. I have not seen any reviews of her anywhere and I searched and searched. I even searched her name in Ukrainian in yandex search engine.

One more thing these are the photos Tetiana aka Annastasia sent me.

Take the chance. Buy her the plane ticket. If she doesn't show up, then change the date of the return trip to the same day, so that it is unusable. Only pay her after services are rendered. .

[Riina]

The ironic part is that the hotel belongs to the Klitschko brothers, whom you expect to promote sportsmanship and rightness of mind.

But I agree. It's definitely a cool place and convenient to go to Rio.

When I took a girl there last year, she looked like she knew the room like the back of her hand: mini-bar, slippers etc.

11 Mirrors is a luxury hotel almost adjacent to Rio. I don't understand this connotation here to "upmarket brothel". It's a hotel in Kiev, people fuck there just like every other hotel in the city.

[Reef LostCause]

Able to spare only a few days from work I had decided to splurge on a nice hotel rather than an apartment. For those interested the 11 Mirrors Hotel fits the bill perfectly. Just a few doors up from Rio, this boutique hotel is in no doubt that it is an upmarket brothel with photographs of naked women in the corridors. Dark and cool the girls seem to love it.

The ironic part is that the hotel belongs to the Klitschko brothers, whom you expect to promote sportsmanship and rightness of mind.

But I agree. It's definitely a cool place and convenient to go to Rio.

When I took a girl there last year, she looked like she knew the room like the back of her hand: mini-bar, slippers etc.

[YerevanBatumi]

http://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escor...BaLevel%5D=yes

She wanted me to fly her to where I am now, which is not Ukraine and wanted 1200 euros for 2 days, she claims to do anal and bare back blow job and GFE.

She says she is independent, I doubt it with all the emails back and forth and I think the agency she works for is tied to organized crime in Ukraine.

I asked for more pictures, she sent me these that I am uploading.

I asked to do a Skype video so that I can be sure those photos are hers, she refused and gave me another number which is not the same one on her profile to talk to her. Red flags.

She said she was born on the 30th of June 1992. She gave me this info to buy her a round trip air ticket. She even gave me her passport number and expiration date. She uses the name Annastasia in her profile on the escort site.

Any help in regards to her would be appreciated. I have not seen any reviews of her anywhere and I searched and searched. I even searched her name in Ukrainian in yandex search engine.

One more thing these are the photos Tetiana aka Annastasia sent me.

[SgtBoyle2]

I, like others, have been critical of Rio over the years but it still remains (in my view) the best strip club in Kiev.

Whilst the refrain RTFF always goes up whenever there's an inquiry from a newbie there has not actually been any detailed reports on Rio for some years. Not, I think, since it all kicked off with Little Joey.

Anyway, like it or hate it, Rio remains an important fixture on the Kiev scene and so I shall set out the following for any who might be interested. Apologies to the old hands who know it all already.

Overview:

Rio is not a cheap option. It is not an alternative to Mamba or for those intent on finding a little gem on the streets. It is however a pleasant enough place to while away the hours and will probably not cost you much more than Buddha Bar or a top night club if you choose to take out a girl. Despite what others say, I've never met an 8 plus girl in a bar or night club who didn't insist on $150 upwards for a covered 1 hour experience. With Rio you can properly expect 3 hours if you leave the club before midnight.

Making an entrance:

Entrance at time of writing was 300 hryvnia which is added to your drinks bill when you leave. The drinks themselves are pricey but not ridiculously so (150 hryvnia for a cocktail) and no different from most of the top restaurants, hotels and nightclubs in Kiev.

When you arrive security can be quite intimidating but, as always, if you're polite and respectful they're fine.

Finding your level:

Having been frisked you'll next meet the door manager (usually a lady) who will size you up and decide if you're basement, first floor or VIP material. A lot depends on how busy they are but dress to impress if you want to sit in the box seats.

The girls in VIP are by and large more attractive and better pole dancers so if you've just come to look it's the best place to be. However the girls are also often wholly professional and so obviously plastic that the process can be utterly joyless.

Personally I prefer the mixed bag of the lower floors. Granted you may see some real 5/6's but you will also see some quirky girls with real personality who are likely to prove far more entertaining.

Procedures:

Having been taken to your appropriate level you'll be introduced to your floor manager. These guys speak varying degrees of English and, as with everything, if you want good service, tip them. A crisp note as you shake hands is always appreciated and may get you a better table or indeed the girl you want.

The girls rotate (in every sense) and there will usually be three girls in front of you at any one time. On the last song / dance of their session each girl takes her top off but the knickers stay firmly on apart from when things get really frantic in the VIP lounge when I'm told one girl will dance naked. The girls are all allocated to a particular floor with the result that after an hour or so you'll have seen them all.

If you like a girl then you can ask the manager for a private dance with her which will set you back 500 Hryvnia. The girl will come to your table (after a few minutes) and lead you by the hand to a small room / cubicle where she will quite literally dance all over you for two songs. During the second dance she will be completely naked. You are allowed indeed encouraged to touch during these sessions but not her lower parts. The process last no longer than 5 minutes.

You can also ask a girl (via the floor manager or waitress) to come and sit with you, which will cost you a cocktail (150 hryvnia) and allow you to have a chat. Touching but not groping is usually allowed on these occasions.

Take out:

One of the great attractions of Rio and indeed other strip bars is that you can often take a girl home if you're prepared to pay the $300 fee. Private dances and chats over cocktails are often viewed as a precursor to such a purchase.

I shall recount my own personal experiences later but take out can be a complete disappointment or a lead on to better things.

First off none of the girls are likely to do anything other than classic sex and covered BBJ. It seems to be in their contracts and is a rule that will never be broken on a first occasion. Some girls will not even let you go down on them and will try to get the whole process over within an hour. This is not good value even when compared with a night club or Gia (the escort agency).

Other girls however may take the opportunity to get to know you and, if they like you, leave you their phone numbers. This for me is always the objective, because once a girl gets to know you she's much more likely to get raunchy between the sheets. With these girls it's all about trust and regulars (you'd be the same in their position).

Unlike the agencies and the salons (brothels) Rio girls seem to be more at liberty to hand out their number, or at least more willing to do so.

Advice:

Firstly, it's as well to arrive between 10 and 11 pm. Although Rio insists it stays open to 5 am the selection can get rather limit after midnight, especially on Fridays and Saturdays. There's also not much point in taking a girl out at 2 or 3 am because they all have to return to Rio by 5 pm. I still don't know why but I have been told it's the deadline for them to get their share of the night's takings.

Secondly, tip and be nice to everyone. The managers and girls all talk. If you're rude or mean the word will go out and the girls will ignore you. They've no time for time wasters.

Thirdly, don't get drunk or arrive drunk. You won't get the girl you want and you may get yourself into trouble. You'll also waste a lot of cash.

Fourthly, dress nicely, smell good and act like a gentleman. Time and again I've been told by Rio girls that it's up to them who they sit with or who they go out with. They are not going to fall in love with you but you will get so much more out of them if they like you. These girls spend all night every night in the club and so for them the chance to spend some time with someone who'll treat them right and flash a little cash is a real bonus.

Finally, act confident. The girls are professionals and respond well to someone who knows what they are doing (both in and out of the bedroom) and what they want. They will expect you to be firm and won't respect you if you're not. Rio girls and indeed Ukrainian girls more generally, hate ambiguity and bullshit. Be polite but say what you want. You may not get it but everyone will know where they stand: that's the Ukrainian way.

My own experiences:

I've been to Rio more than a dozen times over the last few years. Often I've left empty handed because I didn't see anything I liked, worse still I have taken out girls that were a complete waste of time and indeed money.

Of the girls that I've taken out three have left me their numbers. The first was a really talk thin brunette (a 7 or 8) that I spent a whole weekend with on a later visit (cost $600 plus some perfume). She always insisted on covered BBJ but gave me the most complete anal experience.

The second was a really striking brunette (Roxanne: an 8) who could suck for Ukraine and dispensed with condoms (for oral) after only our second meeting. A little plump she had the most beautiful white skin and was a truly raunchy girl. I would always take her out from Rio early and for $300 she would go to dinner or a club and stay with me until just before the 5 am deadline. Not cheap but not so out of line with what you might pay in a club for an altogether shorter and less attractive experience.

The third is my latest find and will remain nameless. A cute and sassy 21 year old blond (also an 8) she just fucks like a train and is either a brilliant actress or really gets off when I go done on her. Since we've only met twice she still insists on covered BBJs but on our last meeting paid me the greatest compliment by falling asleep in my arms. As I lay there with her head on my shoulders and listened to her breathing I realized that not everything in Rio is made of plastic.