Other FKK Clubs

[Pistons]

Negotiating package deals does not reveal how the girls react to basic offer or how tight the standards are. Doesn't reveal upsells.

He does point out a girl suggesting 100 for the half even if the desk says 60 at Harmony.

Yes, the 250 I got, but the 90 e session was a little vague. Don't know if he wants to give pointers on his take on upsells at babylon. ?

[Sirioja]

I hope to fully explore the NRW region on a future trip. I made that one expedition to GT a few years ago and disliked it, and just never went back to the region. I don't know. From what I read, just seems like the NRW clubs aren't as nice and maybe even a little dirty and dumpy. Except Oceans of course, which is new. Which city would it be best to "headquarter" in? Dusseldorf or Koln? I typically don't rent a car, so that's something for me to take into consideration too. Seems like in NRW you must have a car to get around to all of the clubs. Either that, or pay expensive taxis. When renting a car, then I worry about having to pay expensive nightly parking fees at a hotel, or showing up at a club that has barely any parking for cars at akk. Any advice on this and the best way to "work" Dusseldorf and Koln? Is taking the train around a possibility like it is in the Frankfurt metro area? By the time of a trip, I will have figured all of this out. But hell, I'm still on this one right now!

GT is now a touristic club, like Oase or Sharks. I m not an anal sex guy, but a Romanian GF lover, so LR is my little paradise since September, meeting there real GF behavior. Also YY NL close to GT.

[Banana Boi]

When renting a car, then I worry about having to pay expensive nightly parking fees at a hotel, or showing up at a club that has barely any parking for cars at akk. Any advice on this and the best way to "work" Dusseldorf and Koln?

Parking is free on the streets in Germany. Just don't park anywhere it says no parking. Some secluded hotels like Tryp have no parking near it so you have to pay around 10 euro per night.

As for hotel place yourself in Dusseldorf near one of the highways. 20 minutes to Mondial and 30 minutes to Samya in Koln, 15-25 minutes to DUSS area clubs like LR, ACA, Oceans.

[Sirioja]

Negotiating package deals does not reveal how the girls react to basic offer or how tight the standards are. Doesn't reveal upsells.

He does point out a girl suggesting 100 for the half even if the desk says 60 at Harmony. Of course if you negotiate with extras that includes anal, she's making much more so, she would likely go with the offer.

I don't know if it's bothering to checkout. The girls got to really good looking to worth a visit if making their price is prevelant.

Negotiations for service is not what find in a good time. I'm want to forget business when I'm in clubs.

Good transparent reporting by Cane I must say.

At Harmony, you can have real GFE 30 mn for 60 €, with DFK, DATY and BBBJ.

[PussyLiccker]

I believe that there are some good looking girls at Babylon or the other Hamburg clubs, but as HB mentionned earlier, it does have that reputation for upselling. And The Cane's report doesn't really suggest otherwise with 250 and 90 e (for half an hour standard?) I just discussed Babylon Hamburg (its allways been the main Babylon. The Kln Babylon is minor comparably) with this young sweet german girl at Palace who had worked there, and she told me how the girls at Babylon Hamburg were pushing the upsell agenda. Her record was pulling 500 e from a dude for 1 hour. It didn't make me want to visit there aside from maybe see the place. Not as a regular mongering destination. And she just came from working there very recently... must have been a top girl even.

Negotiating package deals does not reveal how the girls react to basic offer or how tight the standards are. Doesn't reveal upsells.

He does point out a girl suggesting 100 for the half even if the desk says 60 at Harmony. Of course if you negotiate with extras that includes anal, she's making much more so, she would likely go with the offer.

I don't know if it's bothering to checkout. The girls got to really good looking to worth a visit if making their price is prevelant.

Negotiations for service is not what find in a good time. I'm want to forget business when I'm in clubs.

Good transparent reporting by Cane I must say.

[The Cane]

In NRW, 1 hour is 80 at H7, or Aca Gold, or Aca, and 100 in others. Except at Oceans, CIM is 25 and anal 50. For 250, You can have 2 hours with anal. In Switzerland, only 1 standard hour for this rate, no anal, but often great GFE experience.

I hope to fully explore the NRW region on a future trip. I made that one expedition to GT a few years ago and disliked it, and just never went back to the region. I don't know. From what I read, just seems like the NRW clubs aren't as nice and maybe even a little dirty and dumpy. Except Oceans of course, which is new. Which city would it be best to "headquarter" in? Dusseldorf or Koln? I typically don't rent a car, so that's something for me to take into consideration too. Seems like in NRW you must have a car to get around to all of the clubs. Either that, or pay expensive taxis. When renting a car, then I worry about having to pay expensive nightly parking fees at a hotel, or showing up at a club that has barely any parking for cars at akk. Any advice on this and the best way to "work" Dusseldorf and Koln? Is taking the train around a possibility like it is in the Frankfurt metro area? By the time of a trip, I will have figured all of this out. But hell, I'm still on this one right now!

[The Cane]

To The Cane:

Thanks so much for your fantastic contributions over the past week or so. This latest (last?) installment is a really great read: Bravo!! But your recent "buttfucking my way through Deutschland" reports, esp highlighting HH-Babylon, have clearly shown there is FKK action to be had am Alster. Thanks again for excellent work.

Thanks for your words Ortos. Hey, check this out. As the night wound down at FKK Babylon Hamburg, I was talking to a dark-haired German chick named Lena. And guess what? She asks me if I had ever tried anal sex! Ahahahahaha! I think that besides IT Travel who posts pretty exclusively in the Anal Connoisseurs section, I may be the biggest cornholer of women on this site LOL! And guess what? Hopefully I'm not finished yet! More to come hehehe!

[Pistons]

I believe that there are some good looking girls at Babylon or the other Hamburg clubs, but as HB mentionned earlier, it does have that reputation for upselling. And The Cane's report doesn't really suggest otherwise with 250 and 90 e (for half an hour standard?) I just discussed Babylon Hamburg (its allways been the main Babylon. The Köln Babylon is minor comparably) with this young sweet german girl at Palace who had worked there, and she told me how the girls at Babylon Hamburg were pushing the upsell agenda. Her record was pulling 500 e from a dude for 1 hour. It didn't make me want to visit there aside from maybe see the place. Not as a regular mongering destination. And she just came from working there very recently... must have been a top girl even.

[Ortos]

To The Cane:

Thanks so much for your fantastic contributions over the past week or so. This latest (last?) installment is a really great read: Bravo!!

You have really shined a (coherent) light on Hamburg as another corner of Germany with viable FKK clubs. I know HH well, mostly from my time there in the '90's / early 2000's. Over the past ten / twelve years, however, I simply would visit for a night or two to re-charge after multiple days / nights in Hessen or NRW clubs, knowing HH offered a great enviroment for chilling out, eating good food (great fish, if you know where to go), drink beer and play some poker in Spielbank Hamburg or a smaller casino out in one of the suburbs. During this period I never felt tempted to engage in hunting for sex, just used to occassionally walk down Herbertstrasse and look, knowing full well the bang for the buck was more rip-off the Euro, no value for money.

But your recent "buttfucking my way through Deutschland" reports, esp highlighting HH-Babylon, have clearly shown there is FKK action to be had am Alster. Thanks again for excellent work.

[Sirioja]

I'm not in New York, Hong Kong, or Dubai (but I've been to two of those three). I'm in Germany, and my reference point is Hesse where I've heavily patronized the clubs there. In Hesse, for 250 euros per hour you can get massage, BBBJ / CIM, and anal. One complaint against Hamburg is that you have to pay more for the same things than you have to in other parts of Germany. So, my point is that I've proved you can get in Hamburg what you can get at the Frankfurt Big 5 for the same price. And like I said, I have been to both New York and Dubai (second most expensive mongering destination I have personally been to), and if you think you can get BBBJ / CIM and anal in those cities from a hot girl for the equivalent of 250 euros per hour (if she even agrees to do either in the first place), then you sir don't know what you're talking about! And try getting that in Zurich (the most expensive mongering destination I have been to). You won't at any of the top clubs in Switzerland (although the girls will in fact do BBBJ / CIM and anal), so your claim that 250 euros is going to be golden around the world is very misguided. Although, I must admit that my NRW experience is light, so maybe as you say I could get an NRW tute to throw in doing my laundry as part of a 250 euros per hour package deal! I'll see if I can negotiate that in when I visit Dusseldorf and Cologne on a subsequent trip!

In NRW, 1 hour is 80 at H7, or Aca Gold, or Aca, and 100 in others. Except at Oceans, CIM is 25 and anal 50. For 250, You can have 2 hours with anal. In Switzerland, only 1 standard hour for this rate, no anal, but often great GFE experience.

[The Cane]

Just got back from a second visit to FKK Babylon Hamburg. I returned specifically to fuck the tall, auburn-redheaded German girl. Got to the club and there she was on the inside, sitting there and smiling as if she was waiting just for me. She goes by "Neela" and has a tattoo (among many) that says "only if I want to", meaning that she will fuck you only if she so desires. Well, she told me she still wanted to fuck me. Surprise, surprise! We had already agreed prior to an all-inclusive for 250 euros (I failed to ask about her doing my laundry as a part of the deal, so that was my bad). In the room, I found Neela to be kind of "clinical" in her approach, but I still enjoyed. She hesitated at first about using my preferred condoms because she said that lots of guys were weird and might try to put little holes in the condoms just to get their seed inside of her. I assured Neela that I was not that kind of guy, and she agreed that I looked honest and would not do such a thing (she's right).

Neela delivered some decent skull (including from 69 where I kissed her butt cheeks and lightly licked her asshole), then we used one of my expensive, super-thin Sagamis (only for the German girls) to get some serious pussy penetration action going. Neela struggled at first to get the condom on, but we made it, and then fucked in multiple positions. We ended up in mish with me wanting to finish in Neela's pussy. Her talk of worrying about guys secretly trying to get their spurge inside of her body turned me on actually, so I decided to nut inside of that German pussy, telling Neela all along that I was going to sperm inside of her. Of course, I had on the condom, but with the Sagami it's the closest thing to going natural. Nutted in her, then next came an OK massage. Not the best, but not nearly the worst I've had from a working girl either.

From there, it was time to take Neela in the ass! She preferred to take dick up the butt doggy-style, so this is how we proceeded. With just the right amount of lube on Neela's asshole, I entered her butt hole fairly easily. Neela moaned and frigged her pussy while I dick her in the butt with hard and fast strokes. I eventually got her stomach / face down like how I like to do my ass-fucked tutes and pounded Neela in the ass with authority until I just couldn't butt fuck her anymore LOL! It didn't feel as if I was going to be able to cum, so I kept pounding her and pounding her in her asshole until I just couldn't pound anymore! I enjoyed her moans, cries, and screams hehehe!

With Neela now all butt fucked out, we took some time out just to talk. It's at these times, if you've made any kind of connection with the girl at all, that she will begin telling you things about the story of her life. I learned that Neela was 29 and had been working in prostitution for many years now. She told me that she started out on the Reeperbahn in Hamburg where she was taught from the other more senior girls on how to rip people off and take as much money as she could get while doing as little as possible, even if that meant outright stealing from customers. Neela said she didn't like that scene, and quit it after a little while. Said she worked in a "caravan" for a couple of years (don't know what a "caravan" is), and that she even went to Switzerland with a few other girls to work. Neela told me that in Switzerland a lot of clients requested bareback, and although she refused to do that, the other girls routinely did and would charge anywhere from 300 to 500 Swiss francs an hour (really for one shot) to provide that service.

Eventually Neela found her way back home to Germany and Hamburg. She told me that a couple of years ago she fell into a deep depression after breaking up with her Iranian boyfriend. Seems to me that she should have been happy to jettison him since she told me that he was beating her German arsch down (hit her in the mouth and broke her teeth which had to be repaired) and took thousands and thousands of euros of her money! When you hear these things, it reminds you that these girls are human beings and often have suffered many hardships. With our session done, I paid Neela her money. She tried to squeeze out a small tip, but I declined to pay it. A kiss on the lips goodbye, and then we went our separate ways, only to stop and smile and chat with each other throughout the night. I saw Neela go to the room to do several more sessions. Told me that her nightly goal was 1,000 euros, and that she was only about 200 euros short of that. The first night I met her at FKK Babylon Hamburg, I remember her telling me at some point in the night that she needed only 90 euros more to reach her 1,000 euros a night goal. She goes to the room a lot, so I can believe it that she is in the 1,000 euros a night club!

For my second and final session of the night, I repeated with Polish Nellie. I had told myself no repeats! That I would not repeat, but I simply could not resist this girl's charm. In the room with Neela, she (Neela) told me that she had seen me go with Nellie the last time, and that she did not like it. She said that she thought Nellie was an ugly girl (I do not agree) with no class (will take men to the room leading them by the dick). Well, I never saw Nellie doing that, and she certainly didn't do it with me. But she is one damn good butt fucker, and that's for damn sure! I decided to go with her again for that one reason alone. We were sitting on the couches beforehand doing some light kissing when Nellie started telling me how much she liked my "pennis" (penis) as she pronounced it, and that she wanted my "pennis" in her mouth and back inside of her asshole! I was as hard as a rock under my robe listening to this Polish girl mispronounce how much she wanted me to fuck her in the ass with my "pennis".

And that's what I did too after receiving some solid BBBJ action. Told Nellie that I was going to fuck her in the butt with my "pennis" and sperm inside of her butt hole. This dirty talked seemed to really turn her on too as she started saying that she wanted me to fuck her in the butt and was telling me that I was butt fucking her so, so good smack, smack, smack, smack, smack against her big phat ass cheeks! With this kind of dirty talk, I once again got "the good feeling" all over my body. Now, whereas I did not cum inside of Neela's German girl anus, I fucking exploded inside of Nellie's Polish girl anal cavity just as I had done on my first visit to this club! Where is Hessen Bub? Where is HB? HB, this time while I was butt fucking Nellie, there was more than just a hint of a little "scheisse" in the air hahaha! There was a whiff of some "scheisse" in the air my friend HB LOLOLOL! Hey, you know what I say. If you've fucked as many girls in the butt as I have, then occasionally you're going to have to take a little shit every now and then hahahaha!

The smell dissipated shortly after the butt fuck was over, and then I relaxed and settled in for a nice, relaxing massage. Nellie is good too since, as I mentioned in a previous report, she gave massages for two years at the club before deciding to start fucking for cash. At least that's what she told me. She also told me about a recent experience with a customer who had bad body odor. She went down to give him head, but was repulsed by the smell! The guy went to reception to complain that Nellie welched on the deal to give him BBBJ / CIM. They took a whiff of the guy and could smell the stink on him then. The management told the guy to shower or leave. He refused to shower (allegedly told Nellie that he had only showered once in the last 4 weeks), so the management threw his ass out of the club! Really somebody would come in there dirty like that and expect to be serviced? Damn!

After my session with Nellie, I chatted up a few more of the girls who were present, but chose not to session again. By the way, for those of you who enjoy public sex, I saw some of that going on in the kino at FKK Babylon Hamburg. Looked in there and saw two "couples" fucking LOL! I have enjoyed my tour of Hamburg, and I hope that I can "cum again" some day. This is not the old Hamburg with nothing but sex scam ripoffs. There are legit FKKs now where you can get some value for your money. If you have the time and inclination, I say check out Hamburg! It's not just what it used to be. I guess you could say it's that and more, but in a good way!

[Hessen Bub]

For 250 / hour in NRW some girl will even do your laundry.

And she'd do that with your cane up her backdoor.

HB.

[The Cane]

Too funny.

But is it true LOL? I'll see when I'm in the NRW region. That will be on the agenda for the next trip hehehe! By the way, when I was in Pattaya, I learned about a monger who did hire a Russian tute to come over and clean up his place. He knew he wasn't going to get to fuck her, so he figured he would try to get something out of her! Read about another monger who hired some African tutes to clean up a couple of his apartments somewhere in Europe, but I forget where. I usually don't have any laundry to do when on the road, but if I can get a good price all-inclusive with anal, then why not?

[The Cane]

You are negotiating having 250 e for one hour as a reference. For that money you can probably negotiate good service everything included in almost every city in the world, including Munich, New York, HongKong, Dubai. For 250 / hour in NRW some girl will even do your laundry.

I'm not in New York, Hong Kong, or Dubai (but I've been to two of those three). I'm in Germany, and my reference point is Hesse where I've heavily patronized the clubs there. In Hesse, for 250 euros per hour you can get massage, BBBJ / CIM, and anal. One complaint against Hamburg is that you have to pay more for the same things than you have to in other parts of Germany. So, my point is that I've proved you can get in Hamburg what you can get at the Frankfurt Big 5 for the same price. And like I said, I have been to both New York and Dubai (second most expensive mongering destination I have personally been to), and if you think you can get BBBJ / CIM and anal in those cities from a hot girl for the equivalent of 250 euros per hour (if she even agrees to do either in the first place), then you sir don't know what you're talking about! And try getting that in Zurich (the most expensive mongering destination I have been to). You won't at any of the top clubs in Switzerland (although the girls will in fact do BBBJ / CIM and anal), so your claim that 250 euros is going to be golden around the world is very misguided. Although, I must admit that my NRW experience is light, so maybe as you say I could get an NRW tute to throw in doing my laundry as part of a 250 euros per hour package deal! I'll see if I can negotiate that in when I visit Dusseldorf and Cologne on a subsequent trip!

[Banana Boi]

For 250 / hour in NRW some girl will even do your laundry.

Too funny.