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02-16-17 17:23 #910
Posts: 3040Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Member#2041 [View Original Post]
Anyway, to my point, we could go back and forth a million times and you will not convince me of the truth in your philosophy and I will never convince you of the truth in mine. In addition, right now I have better, more important things on my mind, specifically I am in the middle of settling my business and personal affairs and getting ready to depart in less than a week for my next 10.5 week trip to La La Asian Pussyland. So, you guys won't hear too much from me in the next couple of months. I will try to drop an occasional short post covering what I am up to in the appropriate forums. On my last trip in 2016, I averaged 1.25 girls per day over 9. 5 weeks and believe me, I was running on empty as I wound things up the last 10 days in BKK. But I couldn't or wouldn't stop and say no to my girls. I had Mini, who for all intents and purposes is my BKK mistress, my 2 favorite CH girls, a naughty Mango girl, plus two NEW girls I had just met. The burning question I have for this next trip is will I slow down and proceed at a more normal, sustainable pace? The answer is HELL NO! So, guys, if you never hear from me again, I want you to know one thing, I died in bed with one or two girls by my side and a smile on my face. And I have no regrets about what I have done the last 20 years. 555. It has been a gas. I want my tombstone to read, "he loved young Asian girls."
Now back to the issue at hand; I offered you a gentleman's wager. I will now refine the bet: I predict that starting the 1st full quarter beginning 18 months after Trump's tax cut, whatever it may eventually turn out to be, is enacted into law AND simultaneously 18 months after Dodd Frank is repealed or significantly rolled back; the real GDP of the US will average 3% or higher for the next full year I. E. 4 consecutive quarters going forward. That means for example, one quarter may show a 2. 5% growth rate and the next three quarters might have a 3. 25% GDP growth rate thus the average would be 3. 06% and I would win the wager. I further refine the proposed amount of the wager to be a ST session with any GO GO girl in BKK or any bar girl on Burgos of the winner's choice. The wager does not include drinks or barfine, so it's approximately a $100 Gentlemen's wager.
The reason I propose this bet is twofold. 1st I want to make things a little interesting, and 2nd I want to illustrate to everybody here that none of us really know what the next 4 years or next 8 years will be like despite the rather strong opinions we all have. I am talking to you too GE! So, guys lets dial down the rhetoric and insults. What do you say?
Now who wants to take me up on my wager? EihTooms?, GE?, Member #2041? - I am sorry, but I can't extend the bet to include Tijuana. I spent a couple months in Mexico a long time ago and I did not like the country or the girls. But hey, this is the Philippine Forum. You really should try to visit the PI. The girls here are great. It is definitely worth the time and money involved to get here.
Adios Muchachos!
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02-16-17 17:20 #909
Posts: 1600Amusing when someone accuses another person who has nearly double the number of posts that they do of being an interloper. But not surprising.
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02-16-17 16:58 #908
Posts: 3081Originally Posted by MrGogo [View Original Post]
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02-16-17 16:12 #907
Posts: 3700Originally Posted by DCups [View Original Post]
Its no problem though because the proof is in the pudding. In a couple years when the stock market is at 12 K and we are sending our troops of to useless wars and its war on American streets I will have this post of yours to make you out as someone who is very misinformed. Not to mention the burden 20 million uninsured people will have on our economy along with paying for a 20 billion dollar wall that will be an eyesore and a monument to people of how foolish and gullible some Americans truly are.
It's already affecting us personally as the travel industry is now taking a major hit with the immigration rule Trump tried to impose. People are becoming afraid to travel and look for these friendly countries that let us visit and bang their beautiful women to not be as accommodating to Americans in the future. Maybe when these foreign women and guys hate our guts and want to hurt us will you then realize that it wasn't so bad under Obama.
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02-16-17 15:42 #906
Posts: 3081You are a fool for believing that, GE. In a world of Kardashians be an Ivanka.
Originally Posted by GoodEnough [View Original Post]
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02-16-17 15:34 #905
Posts: 3081Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
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02-16-17 15:13 #904
Posts: 3081Top 10 obummer blunders
Top 10 obummer blunders.
10. I can't find my birth certificate! Well it might be in Indonesia but since daddy split before I was born I don't really know.
9. My brother lives in a shack somewhere in Africa. I'the like to send him some USA Taxpayer money but he doesn't have an address.
8. The constitution? Well let me rewrite it with these here executive orders.
7. Crime? What crime? I'll just ignore it and hope it goes away. Good to out of Chicago, tho.
6. Let's take Air Force One to a ballgame in Cuba! That's got to be better than dealing with world crises! Oh! And while I'm there I can let more of my terrorist buddies out of Guantanamo so they can plan their next attack! Brilliant!
5. Fuck the economy! We can always borrow more trillions from China!
4. I know, let's build a healthcare system that is SO COMPLEX that NO ONE understands it! As long it has my name on it and it benefits member number 2041 (my loyal, blithering sychophant) that's all that matters!
3. Fuck the military! Let me downsize this to the bone so I can give away more free phones, free food, free housing, free transportation, free healthcare, etc. To all the freeloaders who voted for me!
2. I hate the Clintons but if Hillary gets elected maybe I can milk even more bucks out of these stupid democrats!
1. Let's see. What can I do as a grand finale to my presidency? I know! I'll send $220 million to our enemies in Syria! I'll do it AN HOUR before inauguration because everyone will be so busy that NO ONE will notice! I'the like to send more but $220 M should be Good Enough.
EPILOGUE.
Well, I tried to destroy America, I really did my best to try to destroy America, but those Republicans, there's just too many of them! Let me see if I can find my brother in Africa and slip him a few bucks.
EXIT. FADE OUT. CLOSE CURTAIN. NO APPLAUSE.
The legacy of obummer: WORST president in the history of USA.
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02-16-17 15:10 #903
Posts: 3081Yes, play the race card, 2041. It is the only one in your hand.
Originally Posted by Member#2041 [View Original Post]
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02-16-17 14:48 #902
Posts: 3081What a great discussion going on here! Yes, GE, start your own country. You can be Lord of the Fart Factory.
Originally Posted by GoodEnough [View Original Post]
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02-16-17 08:56 #901
Posts: 4051Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
GE.
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02-16-17 07:46 #900
Posts: 5501Originally Posted by Member#2041 [View Original Post]
Of course, the special made-up conservative Republican "law" over the past 8 years is we're never supposed to compare what was happening when Obama took office to what is happening now and has been happening for years under his economic stewardship. Whenever you mention what was happening when Obama took office, hey that's "blaming Bush", don'tcha' know. LOL. No, it is the way anything meaningful is measured; how does it compare today with what was happening before.
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02-16-17 06:20 #899
Posts: 5501Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
As a side note on that subject, since you lived through those Carter and Reagan years, you must then remember that virtually anyone and everyone could deduct those high interest rates for everything from auto purchases to consumer debt re credit cards during the Carter years, just as you could and largely still can with mortgage loan interest rates. So when they had to be raised high in order to tame the effects of wage inflation in '79 and '80, most Americans, not just corporate executives with clever accountants, could reduce the bite of it come income tax time. But guess who put an end to that ability for regular rank and file American workers to take a tax deduction on ordinary consumer debt? You guessed right if you said Ronald Reagan.
The Iranian Revolution was triggered by Republican President Dwight Eisenhower's CIA overthrow of a duly democratically-elected leader of Iran in 1954 and installing the brutal Shah Pahlavi regime instead in order to keep oil prices to our liking. The Revolution was about Islamic Ayatollahs then overthrowing that brutal dictatorship, a slow and bloody 25 year march that happened to end in 1979 when Carter was president. Meanwhile, Carter got all of the USA Hostages out of Iran in exchange for nothing more than what already belonged to Iran before Reagan had a chance to screw that up more than he tried to screw it up in the days before the election. Quite a bit more positive outcome than when Reagan buckled under the slightest political risk pressure by illegally trading whatever arms Iran wanted for 7 hostages that were taken on his watch.
That Reagan event was one of a few under his watch when Iran and others in the Middle East learned you can actually come out ahead, not just break even, by causing mischief for the USA, depending on the spinal density of the commander in chief at the time.
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02-16-17 05:51 #898
Posts: 5501Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
In fact, the USA Economy suffered during our involvement in WWII. There is no data showing improvement on the usual economic measures during WWII or in the aftermath of WWII. Conservatives opposed to the Democratic New Deal type approach to recovering the economy from typical Republican major economic downturns always claim FDR's New Deal was a failure and that wars are good for the economy. But it isn't true. If that were true, then our economy should have been roaring while we were in the midst of TWO wars during the Bush2 years and the early Obama years. But it wasn't roaring. Not by a long shot.
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02-16-17 05:36 #897
Posts: 5501Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
I fail to see the startling improvement over anything in that recap of certain data for Reagan vs Carter. You get hyper-inflation as seen in the Carter years because wage inflation feeds into it. And you get wage inflation because there are too many new private sector jobs being created than there are applicants to fill them. Easy to bring that kind of "Morning in America!" result to an end; preside over an economy whose private sector jobs creation average is dwarfed by that of Jimmy Carter. You're showing Carter's average annual unemployment rate lower than Reagans. This is supposed to convince me Reagan's policies worked better than Carter's?
Sorry, but "I lived through this stuff. The Carter years were horrible", is not enough data to reverse the real data showing Carter's annual average private sector jobs gains dwarfing that of Reagan and every other Republican president before and since, just to name one way more important metric than how you felt about it. I certainly agree that Carter was a stiff while Reagan was affable and ingratiating, as long as you weren't on the wrong end of his massive tax increases on the lower income margins to pay for the disproportionate and budget-busting tax cuts for the wealthy.
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02-16-17 03:58 #896
Posts: 1600The problem with the Reagan presidency is that it was catastrophic for anyone who was not a white male.
And BTW, Nixon and Bush I did more to defeat the Soviet Union than Reagan actually did.
Reagan did conquer the existential threat of Grenada, though, and he did prove that running up huge deficits is not problematic for the economy. A legacy that Obama has built on.
BTW, Natty, here's the bet I would propose, although the only place I could pay it off or collect on it would be in Tijuana: Over the course of the Trump Presidency, he adds fewer jobs to the economy than Obama did during his Presidency. It's A LOT easier to achieve a momentary growth rate of 3% when you're starting off with an economy that's been steady state at around 2% growth (actually it's been oscillating between 1 and 3.5%) than it is when you're starting off with a falling knife economy that's contracting at over 5% annualized, which is what Obama inherited.
And getting to over 3% briefly is nothing special, Obama did it several times. It's SUSTAINING 3% for a year or longer, and I will certainly bet that Trump does not accomplish that, unless he has Stephen Bannon fabricate some bogus fake statistics.