Angeles City

[Omega 3]

Thanks for the 8 tips, GB. Number 9 if you are an American military veteran go to Legion Post 123 to swap war stories / bullshit with the guys, drink and eat. The have a music jam session Sunday afternoons if you're into that. Good bunch of guys. Subic is always a great diversion, too. Love the floating bar and hoorhouse there off Treasure Island. Cheers. QUOTE=GreenBud;2002044.

Angeles is a good option for a stop if you are hopping around SE Asia. See. QUOTE].

Man,

Is the Legion still open? That's good news. Used to be located on Macarthur just past BOC, but that was a lifetime ago. Where are you guys located now?

Cheers!

OM.

[BushRusher]

At my age I can pop once, maybe twice a day. I get anxious to do something different. Fortunately, the places I've visited offered other things to see and do during my sexual "downtime". We all know why Thailand attracts an awful lot of tourists each year for a reason. Its a hard destination to beat. And if you like Thai food, as much as I do, you can have it for breakfast, lunch and dinner (which I did).

But, you don't hear people raving about Filipino food, do you? That's not a deal breaker. You don't hear them raving about German food, either. But, Berlin makes up for it by having an awesome selection of mongering opportunities as well as lots of things to do in the city. History, nightlife, flea markets, culture, Currywurst and Doner Kebabs galore! The superb national, public transport network makes day trips to neighboring cities (and countries) fast and easy. There is no sunny beach in Berlin, but a shitload of brothels and an abundance of freelancers who are among the best in the world.

You brought up an interesting point, another poster was complaining about a runner. Think his plan was one pop, sleep and pop again. I suspect some girls might prefer more than that. Hence they would rather bail and scratch that itch. Just my suspicion.

As for food, I totally agree. I love Thai and the occasional German heart clogging fare. PI has their Lapu Lapu and chicken adobo. Think the current or past White House cook is a PI lady.

The down side of some other areas is really the language. It is good therapy for me to talk. But I prefer to know that at least they can hear me and understand a little, Some of the girls also have very interesting stories.

If you pick up a PI GF, you can get through her some amazing deals at resorts.

[Eszpresszo]

Thanks to all who responded to my question with so many details. You enlightened me on some things as well as confirmed some of my suspicions. I'm sure other members will appreciate the input from all contributors, as I did.

And I think most understand my concerns. What else is in the "package" besides mongering? At my age I can pop once, maybe twice a day. I get anxious to do something different. Fortunately, the places I've visited offered other things to see and do during my sexual "downtime". We all know why Thailand attracts an awful lot of tourists each year for a reason. Its a hard destination to beat. And if you like Thai food, as much as I do, you can have it for breakfast, lunch and dinner (which I did).

But, you don't hear people raving about Filipino food, do you? That's not a deal breaker. You don't hear them raving about German food, either. But, Berlin makes up for it by having an awesome selection of mongering opportunities as well as lots of things to do in the city. History, nightlife, flea markets, culture, Currywurst and Doner Kebabs galore! The superb national, public transport network makes day trips to neighboring cities (and countries) fast and easy. There is no sunny beach in Berlin, but a shitload of brothels and an abundance of freelancers who are among the best in the world.

Again, there's the whole package to look at. I think you understand how I am trying to evaluate Angeles City in context to other places. And that just gave me an idea, guys. I will try to contrive a metric formula for rating mongering destinations on mongering opportunities and quality of other distractions. PM if you have suggestions on that.

[BushRusher]

Why when he comes back with the drink my drink is not in the glass that he showed me and told me it would come in, but in the fucking glass that I did not want?

Well, I can tell you where I come from, you might get the drink in the glass you demanded, along with some foreign material from the toilet or other orifice! LOL

I instances of communications failure that you recounted are funny and we've all run into them. On the other hand, I've also have some great surprises, finding girls who were not only intelligent, but whose English was quite good. So in that case, I suppose it's all in the luck of the draw.

IMHO, language abilities do not necessarily reflect intelligence. They can just spread and express their ignorance and naivety better. The one thing I realized is that men and women, in general, just think differently. It is amusing to see similarities in the thought process of women separated by an ocean or a land mass for some people. I was showing the girls the K Gains videos.

[D Cups]

Thanks for the 8 tips, GB. Number 9 if you are an American military veteran go to Legion Post 123 to swap war stories / bullshit with the guys, drink and eat. The have a music jam session Sunday afternoons if you're into that. Good bunch of guys. Subic is always a great diversion, too. Love the floating bar and hoorhouse there off Treasure Island. Cheers. QUOTE=GreenBud;2002044.

Angeles is a good option for a stop if you are hopping around SE Asia. See. QUOTE].

[D Cups]

Maybe they can talk in English, but communicate is an entirely different ball game. The results are in for the Dumb as Rocks on planet Earth category. After a dead heat between the Dumbminicans and Filipinos, the Filipinos win it.

Thanks for the humorous examples / comic relief, Mr. E! Girls from both areas have some street smarts but as I and others have said before we don't date them for their brains. I'll take sweet and sexy over IQ any day and twice on Sunday. For semi-intelligent conversation in both countries one must either dumb it down with copious amounts of beer or engage in conversation with other Westerners or both.

[NapaSlapper]

Mr E,

With due respect where do you get your supposed facts on Pattaya being more dangerous than AC.

Have you some official statistics to back this up? I have never seen any and I and most guys I know would totally disagree with your claims.

While I fully agree with you that petty crime in pattaya is reported regularly one has to look at the time these incidents are happening, to whom, where they are and what they are wearing, as you will agree most gold snatches / ladyboy disputes. Guys getting slapped by the mamasun for not paying their bill all happen in the wee hours of the morning with most punters drunk or out walking in areas while wearing 1000's of baht in gold necklaces or walking alone down soi 6/1 at 3 am looking for guys in dresses to give one a blow job.

As I have always said pattaya is as safe as one wants to make it, its the punters choice, with some minor care most situations are totally avoidable.

[GoodEnough]

Actually the incidence of street crime is higher in Pattaya than it is in Angeles. Just read Thai Visa or Pattaya Daily News and everyday you will see someone's gold chain getting snatched, wallet getting stolen, someone getting accosted by a ladyboy, or beat up by bar staff. If you are really lucky you will see a passenger taking a swing from a taxi driver's sword or machete. Actually I think a taxi driver pulled a knife on a family the other day for closing the luggage compartment too hard.
Maybe they can talk in English, but communicate is an entirely different ball game. The results are in for the Dumb as Rocks on planet Earth category. After a dead heat between the Dumbminicans and Filipinos, the Filipinos win it. It was not enough to take the title last year when me and my girlfriend were at a resort in Cebu and I ordered a grilled cheese and the lady told me that they did not have grilled cheese, only grilled ham and cheese. But with this most recent incident they were able to win the trophy.

The week before last me and my girlfriend were in Boracay and decided to have 1 last drink before we had to leave. We went over to a beach bar and I ordered a drink but wanted to be sure it would not come in that conical martini glass so I asked the waiter which glass it comes in. He went to the bar and came back and muttered something. I said no and pointing to my eye said let me see the glass it will come in. He goes to the bar and comes back once again but this time with a highball glass. I said perfect. Give me that drink. Why when he comes back with the drink my drink is not in the glass that he showed me and told me it would come in, but in the fucking glass that I did not want?

I didn't know that about Pattaya, and had always assumed, even during several visits there, that it was fairly safe. So maybe there's a tie in the danger department.

I instances of communications failure that you recounted are funny and we've all run into them. On the other hand, I've also have some great surprises, finding girls who were not only intelligent, but whose English was quite good. So in that case, I suppose it's all in the luck of the draw.

GE.

[KongKing]

Good question I have been wondering this also. Can't wait to hear this.

Cbear, is there really any real need to regurgitate a whole lengthy story which is the next story down. All you said was "good question". Try snipping and cutting to the chase vis "Can you guys fill me in on how a trip to AC would fit into my next jaunt to Asia"? Just a helpful suggestion to prevent a thread getting filled with unnecessary repeats.

[Mr Enternational]

Also the incidence of street crime (pickpockets and muggers) is likely higher in Angeles than in Thailand or Cambodia.

Actually the incidence of street crime is higher in Pattaya than it is in Angeles. Just read Thai Visa or Pattaya Daily News and everyday you will see someone's gold chain getting snatched, wallet getting stolen, someone getting accosted by a ladyboy, or beat up by bar staff. If you are really lucky you will see a passenger taking a swing from a taxi driver's sword or machete. Actually I think a taxi driver pulled a knife on a family the other day for closing the luggage compartment too hard.

Further, given the widespread ability to speak English, it's much easier to communicate with Filipinos than with Thais or Cambodians.

Maybe they can talk in English, but communicate is an entirely different ball game. The results are in for the Dumb as Rocks on planet Earth category. After a dead heat between the Dumbminicans and Filipinos, the Filipinos win it. It was not enough to take the title last year when me and my girlfriend were at a resort in Cebu and I ordered a grilled cheese and the lady told me that they did not have grilled cheese, only grilled ham and cheese. But with this most recent incident they were able to win the trophy.

The week before last me and my girlfriend were in Boracay and decided to have 1 last drink before we had to leave. We went over to a beach bar and I ordered a drink but wanted to be sure it would not come in that conical martini glass so I asked the waiter which glass it comes in. He went to the bar and came back and muttered something. I said no and pointing to my eye said let me see the glass it will come in. He goes to the bar and comes back once again but this time with a highball glass. I said perfect. Give me that drink. Why when he comes back with the drink my drink is not in the glass that he showed me and told me it would come in, but in the fucking glass that I did not want?

[Omega 3]

If you guys don't mind me asking, what else is there to do in the area? I understand the girls are the real attraction and it has been said the Filipinos in AC beat the Thais in Pattaya in terms of looks and overall quality. But, what is there to do besides monger?

I do know a bit about the area from a perspective of recent history. I grew up in San Antonio, TX during the Cold War, meaning I was surrounded by USAF families. When I walked out my door it was rare that there was not a USAF plane in the sky. Many kids I knew had been stationed at Clark AFB and didn't have a good opinion of the place. Mind you, they'd been a lot of places in their young lives: Germany, Japan, Thailand, Turkey, et al. A lot of them had a German "Mutti", and they had German names like Heidi, Heinz and Renate. But in a recent Facebook thread some of my old schoolmates were talking about Clark - "Hey remember the time when we're walking to school and we saw that dead WAF lying in the ditch?

Maybe I am missing something, but the Philippines doesn't have the appeal of Thailand, Malaysia or even Cambodia beyond the mongering options. Can you guys fill me in on how a trip to AC would fit into my next jaunt to Asia? I will gladly field any questions about Berlin, Medellin, Thailand and the Dominican Republic if you PM me.

Thanks.

Depends on what you are looking for.

Since you mentioned a US military-related background, there is an active VFW post in Angeles, on Pinatubo St. Some of the members have been retired in the area for 30+ years and have successfully figured out how to stay involved.

As other savvy posters on this forum have noted, golf (especially in the early mornings, when cooler) is popular, and flying lessons are relatively affordable. Also: local gyms for workouts, pool (billiards), darts, poker and other card games, swimming pools, (regular) massages and spas, hot air ballooning, involvement in local community activities (Rotary Club, helping orphans and physically challenged children, local US cemetery activities and so on) are all options.

Enjoy some of the better restaurants and dining both on and off Clark.

Use Angeles as a convenient base for local tours and exploration (cooler Baguio, or northern Luzon with scenic rice terraces at Banaue, or historic towns such as Vigan, or, even further north, surfing) or closer, Subic and various ocean related activities, or Pinatubo volcanic and hot springs tours), or relatively cheap airfares from Clark to numerous other destinations both within Philippines and internationally.

But, bottom line, drinking and interfacing with amiable young women are the two most popular activities in Angeles, and command the most time and attention.

Enjoy the adventure!

OM.

[GreenBud]

If you guys don't mind me asking, what else is there to do in the area? I understand the girls are the real attraction and it has been said the Filipinos in AC beat the Thais in Pattaya in terms of looks and overall quality. But, what is there to do besides monger?

1) Golf.

2) Play no limit hold-em poker.

3) Play in the casinos.

4) Do a Mount Pinatubo tour. It will be a long drive, a long day.

5) Do a day trip to Subic Bay. You can either get a private taxi (2 thousand something each way), or do it cheaper with local transport. Better to do a 2 or 3 day trip.

6) There's an annual hot air balloon fiesta at Clark.

7) Shop at SM Mall.

8) Do some charity work and feed some hungry kids.

Can you guys fill me in on how a trip to AC would fit into my next jaunt to Asia?

Angeles is a good option for a stop if you are hopping around SE Asia. It is relatively cheap to fly into Manila from Bangkok, Vietnam, Siem Reap, and Kuala Lumpur. Then you get a private taxi to take you to and from the airport (or do it cheaper with public transport). Hint: Try to do it on a Sunday to avoid the atrocious traffic.

[Mr Enternational]

As time passes I can't seem to stand the bars; the music, noise, carry-on and I hardly drink, so I rely increasingly on the net. Hit the Lewis Grand and BS some online story about working for a month as consultant in Clark and would love to meet locals to get to know them, social time etc. Once you mention Lewis Grand some girls just say "I'll be right over. "

No need to BS a story. Just tell them right off that you want to fuck (unless telling the story is part of your own fantasy). Also I would settle on a price before telling them which hotel I was in. When they find out you can afford to stay at the most expensive place in town they will not mind charging you more to fuck.

P. S. Coming right over has nothing to do with mentioning LG!

[NapaSlapper]

For the guys that have not visited and plan an Angeles visit I think that honesty is expected so here goes.

There is no doubt that angeles city is a shit hole, the streets are dirty, full of beggars / scammers, the police are super corrupt and like nothing better than to add to their little pay with bribes / extortion / protection and general dishonesty, even the prime minister calls them scallywags and a disgrace to the uniform.

The hotels are expensive for the quality one gets, any hotel room under $50 us I would not put my dogs to sleep in, even room of $ 100 plus are not all good and similar hotels in most nearby mongering destinations will be less than half price like for like.

The food, ever wondered why there are no pinoy restaurants outside the Phills? The simple answer is that pinoy food has to be the worst in the world, yes one can pay very high prices to eat western food in western owned high end restaurants but again one is getting below average food for big money, most other nearby mongering destinations have very tasty local and int food at very reasonable prices.

There is as many have said nothing to do in Angeles apart from drink and bar hop, yes there is SM mall, a small cinema and a flying club and some golf but in truth the mall is small with little choice, the cinema is not multi choice, the golf not up to international standards and the flying club is old planes and low standards.

On to the main part the girls, Yes pinays can be very sweet and some may even make good wives but not pinay prostitutes, pinay prostitutes are in the business of earning high by doing as least fucking as possible.

Fully agree that if one is in the habit or barfining or meeting girls that have very little earning power due to looks / fatties / oldies or a body that is showing heavy signs of multiple child birth then these type of girls are available for multiple sex / cleaning house. Ironing clothes and anything else one desires, pick a reasonably attractive / slim / no baby girl then one will pay large amounts of cash by the hour, that's if one can get the princesses to barfine / fuck at all.

Its funny how many of the old school guys on most Angeles based sites talk of the stunners they fuck with very little payment, in reality over the last few years I have not seen a westerner anywhere in angeles city with a girl I would call bangable.

For the guys that like bareback sex with very average looking girls then angeles has got to be the place to go, most girls will accept multiple cream pies from multiple mongers per day, although this is not without high risk IMHO, but each to their own.

By all means one should try out angeles city if one is very near by or as part of a mongering multi country trip but keeping one expectations reasonable will give the best trip IMHO.

[BushRusher]

I had a buddy who learned to fly an ultra-light plane. Evidently you can get all kinds of flying licenses in AC at rock bottom prices.

In the US, no license required to fly an ultra light. No license exists to kill one self. LOL.