Bangkok Reports

[Jude Bright]

I spent 5 years going to FKK clubs and amassed well over 500+ club visits. Is it really cheaper in Germany? First you have to pay 2,600 baht or so for club entry. Then you need to rent a car at about 10,000 baht per week to go to the various clubs, especially in the best FKK area, Dusseldorf. Hotels are comparable in price as there are good cheap accommodations in both countries. There are VERY few hot German girls working in Germany. It's mainly Romanians most without much passion. 1840 baht per 30 minutes so 1 hour is 3,680 baht. Add to that an extra 1,840 baht per each of CIM, anal, COB, etc. DFK is also not a guarantee. Soon BBBJ will be at least another 1,840 baht. People complain about how expensive even a gogo girl is but I get them on their days off so no barfine and 3000-4000 baht for up to 18 hours. 1 hour at a place like Soi 6 in Pattaya for 1,350 baht. CIM, anal, etc. all included. Sure not all the Thai girls are hot but the same can be said for most of the Romanians. A top looker Romanian is super hot but top gogo girls in Pattaya and BKK ain't too shabby either.

As for Switzerland, just double the price of everything in Germany. Hotels maybe triple.

I do not have an Asian bias. In fact, for my entire life I preferred Caucasian girls over Asian girls yet I still think Thailand is a clear winner over Germany. The passion and kindheartedness some of these Thai girls have is amazing. 5 years of Romanians and I think I met maybe 3 of them with the same characteristics.

Well said.

Jb.

[Zauberfee]

I spent 5 years going to FKK clubs and amassed well over 500+ club visits. Is it really cheaper in Germany?

There are for sure exceptions from the venues you mentioned. If you go to Grimbergsauna (Gelsenkirchen) or FKK Arabella (Bochum) you pay 30 Euro (roughly 1. 200 THB) entrance fee and 30 minutes with all inclusive (incl. Anal, CIM) will cost 1. 200 THB on top. Most girls are from Romania or Bulgaria, most of them are no stunners, but usually more than doable. IMHO great bang for your buck.

I had the best sex and best service there . . . outside of Thailand ; )

[Asian Rain]

Funny how you just quoted the high end numbers of my post. What about the 1,900-2,500?

Funny how you didn't get past the first paragraph of my post. If you had, you would have seen that I also benchmarked to short time, which was also about the same.

If it had been a short time (which was my original intention), then I could have knocked off PHP2,000, which still keeps it on par with BKK.

Will try to type slower next time. Huhu. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.

[Member #4591]

Assuming that THB4,000 just for the girl's service, if you add on the 700 b bar fine and very minimalist drinks / tip of 500 b, then you end up at THB5,200 "total cost" for a better end go go bar LT experience. That's circa USD150.

Interestingly, I just got back from Manila where I went to the EDSA Complex go go bars and did a takeout. Damage was exactly the same. Bar was PHP1,950 barfine plus p400 for minimalist drinks. LT was PHP5,000, so total was PHP7,350 all-in, which is the equivalent of THB5,100. So cost was pretty much at par. The quality I got was every bit as good, if not better, than anything I could have gotten at the subjectively "better" go go venues like Crazy House, etc. In BKK. In fact, for me it was absolutely better. The quality and experience I had from this girl was so good during our first round that I kept her overnight, something that I hadn't done in over 7 years (if that says anything). If it had been a short time (which was my original intention), then I could have knocked off PHP2,000, which still keeps it on par with BKK.

The cost for high quality from tourist or "public-oriented" venues like go go bars has gotten way out of hand. But it is what it is. If you can't afford it, then I say to mongers better to manage your expectations. If your wallet is a constraint, you can try your luck in freelance bars, try the soapies/oilies, use chat apps or trawl the streets for alternatives.

Cost being what it is, if I were living in Southern California I would be driving down to Mexico to live like a sex tourist king on the devalued peso. Exchange rates matter, but only in limited temporal cases IMHO and the market adjusts quickly. I find the discussion below interesting not for the bickering about price, but more from the angle that shows that mongers have an immense variety of choices to make and, depending on their diverse (or perverse) preferences, they can choose a wide variety of venues with product to suit tastes and budgets. Thailand being what it is today, no way would I cram myself into an economy class seat for 10+ hours to pay for what is on the public menu at most Asian venues today. ASIA IS NOT A CHEAP QUALITY FUCK DESTINATION ANYMORE. Enjoy Thailand, AsianRain.

Funny how you just quoted the high end numbers of my post. What about the 1,900-2,500? And what about if I choose a freelancer at Climax for example? What barfine? I find these price discussions very old but when I see a member post something completely inaccurate, I will speak op.

[Vrsabien]

The average price of a free lancer in Jakarta is close to 100 usd. So free lancers are not cheap in Jakarta. If you are looking for a non free lance experience with a down market brothel girl for one hour in a room inside that brothel, yes, those are cheap. I prefer bringing girls to my own room, so I actually prefer Bangkok over Jakarta. It's about the same price to bring a girl to your room in Jakarta or Bangkok, but there are more options for that in Bangkok. Most of the action in jakarta are brothels where taking a girl out of there is cost prohibitive.

Yeah I agree with this. I like splurging on a top hotel and taking girl there but can only do it easy at Bangkok (although not easy with the 101 Premiere girls).

Finding girls in Jakarta for the hotel not easy, I make plans with brothel girls for hotel visit after they finish but they always too tired after since finishing at midnight or later and then its just a waste.

But yeah some of the Jakarta brothel rooms are way better than Bangkok massage rooms, so its a trade off.

To add a third country, I like KL and the fact you can hit their brothels / hotel brothels till 6 am. Not sure you can do that in Jakarta or where to do that in Bangkok.

[Smoothy]

Not that expensive if you stay out of the hotel bars.

Oh ya? Where can you find good cheap free lancers in Jakarta? Even the girls at the down market Blok M bars charge 1 million rupiah if they are good looking. I don't consider the girls at Lokasari worth taking home so I am excluding them. It's rare to find any girl there who I'd rate above a 6 out of 10. I'd put those Lokasari girls in the same category as the girls standing in front of Nana hotel. I've lived in Jakarta for 20 years. In the past, there were plenty of free lancers and they were reasonably priced. Now the market has completely changed. The best looking girls now work in brothels with 1 hour short time rooms. The days where you could chat up a hot free lancer over a beer and take her home for a decent price disappeared about 10 years ago. I was in Bangkok the past week and took what I consider to be a true stunner home almost every night. It cost bar fine plus 2500 baht short time, but the quality was good. I find it hard to find free lance of that quality in Jakarta unless it's extremely expensive.

[Sunlover2]

Demonia. Jun

Don't see a lot of reports on this place, so I thought I'd contribute.

Thanks JiveMofo for the report on Demonia. We rarely hear much about the aggressive play side of things, so it is good to have some color applied to the available options.

SL.

[Goatscrot]

The average price of a free lancer in Jakarta is close to 100 usd. So free lancers are not cheap in Jakarta. If you are looking for a non free lance experience with a down market brothel girl for one hour in a room inside that brothel, yes, those are cheap. I prefer bringing girls to my own room, so I actually prefer Bangkok over Jakarta. It's about the same price to bring a girl to your room in Jakarta or Bangkok, but there are more options for that in Bangkok. Most of the action in jakarta are brothels where taking a girl out of there is cost prohibitive.

Not that expensive if you stay out of the hotel bars.

[Goatscrot]

IIn my home country, young girls are vastly better looking than when I was 20 YO. Can Thailand realistically have declined for looks. I doubt it. Just the beauties are not desperate enough to take a shit job like an Oily.

Guys' tastes in girls changes.

Really? In my home country they are all fat by that age. Far less better looking than they were when I was young.

[Syzygies]

You mean that dozen or so photos in the China Classified ads forum? Repeated ad nauseam and heavily photoshopped and if indeed of the escort, probably taken years ago?

Honestly I cannot say that the looks of the Thai agogo girls has gone down in the 6 years or so I have been visiting Thailand.

I have to say I'm a bit skeptical about the decline as well. I want to see guys post their pics of stunners from many years ago. I checked my old photos. I was merely less fussy in those days. I actually prefer the looks of my girls in last 2 or 3 years for the most part.

I do accept there is an adverse effect from plastic surgery disasters, and from western junk food, e. G. Slurpies, however the better looking girls can still be found somewhere, perhaps not so much in the Oily MPs.

In my home country, young girls are vastly better looking than when I was 20 YO. Can Thailand realistically have declined for looks. I doubt it. Just the beauties are not desperate enough to take a shit job like an Oily.

Guys' tastes in girls changes.

[Smoothy]

Although it seems Jakarta is still priced quite well.

The average price of a free lancer in Jakarta is close to 100 usd. So free lancers are not cheap in Jakarta. If you are looking for a non free lance experience with a down market brothel girl for one hour in a room inside that brothel, yes, those are cheap. I prefer bringing girls to my own room, so I actually prefer Bangkok over Jakarta. It's about the same price to bring a girl to your room in Jakarta or Bangkok, but there are more options for that in Bangkok. Most of the action in jakarta are brothels where taking a girl out of there is cost prohibitive.

[Lakeside]

Thermae the freelancer bar in the basement of the Ruamchitt hotel is having a large selection of girls. Some are pretty hot and the actual pricing is ST 2500 and LT 5000 (no barfine needed).

[Banana Boi]

Why go to Thailand VS Germany / Switzerland?

I spent 5 years going to FKK clubs and amassed well over 500+ club visits. Is it really cheaper in Germany? First you have to pay 2,600 baht or so for club entry. Then you need to rent a car at about 10,000 baht per week to go to the various clubs, especially in the best FKK area, Dusseldorf. Hotels are comparable in price as there are good cheap accommodations in both countries. There are VERY few hot German girls working in Germany. It's mainly Romanians most without much passion. 1840 baht per 30 minutes so 1 hour is 3,680 baht. Add to that an extra 1,840 baht per each of CIM, anal, COB, etc. DFK is also not a guarantee. Soon BBBJ will be at least another 1,840 baht. People complain about how expensive even a gogo girl is but I get them on their days off so no barfine and 3000-4000 baht for up to 18 hours. 1 hour at a place like Soi 6 in Pattaya for 1,350 baht. CIM, anal, etc. all included. Sure not all the Thai girls are hot but the same can be said for most of the Romanians. A top looker Romanian is super hot but top gogo girls in Pattaya and BKK ain't too shabby either.

As for Switzerland, just double the price of everything in Germany. Hotels maybe triple.

I do not have an Asian bias. In fact, for my entire life I preferred Caucasian girls over Asian girls yet I still think Thailand is a clear winner over Germany. The passion and kindheartedness some of these Thai girls have is amazing. 5 years of Romanians and I think I met maybe 3 of them with the same characteristics.

[Goatscrot]

Cost being what it is, if I were living in Southern California I would be driving down to Mexico to live like a sex tourist king on the devalued peso. Exchange rates matter, but only in limited temporal cases IMHO and the market adjusts quickly. I find the discussion below interesting not for the bickering about price, but more from the angle that shows that mongers have an immense variety of choices to make and, depending on their diverse (or perverse) preferences, they can choose a wide variety of venues with product to suit tastes and budgets. Thailand being what it is today, no way would I cram myself into an economy class seat for 10+ hours to pay for what is on the public menu at most Asian venues today. ASIA IS NOT A CHEAP QUALITY FUCK DESTINATION ANYMORE. Enjoy Thailand, AsianRain.

Spot on. I have friends in SoCal and they don't come to Asia anymore. It's too expensive compared with Mexico and parts South. When I moved to Thailand in 99 the average lay from a GoGo ran me 1 k plus 500 BF. That was about 37 USD. In Mexico cost was about 50 USD at the time. So Thailand was better VFM by far. Mexico has seen a price increase but not to the extent Thailand has. I have found that "markets" only adjust one way, and that's up. Prices in LOS for P4 P did not adjust down when the Baht went from 44 to 29 to the USD. In fact, they increased.
And your last statement is so true. Sad really. Although it seems Jakarta is still priced quite well. And the health centers in KL are not ridiculous either. I will stick to the fact that when we fish in the same pond as the locals, for the most part prices and service are better. Thailand of course is the exception with many Thai men paying far more than we do. Thailand is an outlier in so many ways.

[Smoothy]

ASIA IS NOT A CHEAP QUALITY FUCK DESTINATION ANYMORE.

Unfortunately, this is true.