Angeles City

[Member #4566]

Harry the Horse is a pseudonym for a long time New York expat who is the driving force behind the eponymous monthly newsletter. Harry is also the owner of the Blue Boar Inn which is an expat pool bar and hotel. You cannot claim expertise to Angeles's la dolce vita until you have paid a visit to the Blue Boar but it is hard to find. It is located out on perimeter road set back from the flat iron intersection when you go to the VFW. Incidentally, reading the newsletter is de rigeur for all Balibagaňos in the know.

I guess I got some of it wrong when I reported about Paul Atkins. I first read about it in Harry the Horse's November 2011 newsletter. Harry seems to say it happened sometime prior to 1:30 AM and the body was found near Garfield's.

[BrainDrain]

, but they both came anyway, then I had a call from reception saying there was another one there and I could only have 2 joiners in the room! All got a bit confusing and I ended up sending them all away. I tried to get the first one back on here own as she had really nice figure, but didn't manage it.

Yes, it gets busy in the AC social scene. Your statement here is so true for me, I'm trying to optimise my time so I always have a girl on hand. It's a crazy life we lead. Would be interesting to know if we are hitting on the same PL girls.

[Threadbare]

I returned to AC from Subic with Southern Cross shuttle, which picked me up at Wild Orchid Resort in Balloy Beach and dropped me at the end of the street where the Central Park Tower is located. 500 pesos, good service. Bit early at CPT as my room wasn't ready. Check in time is 2 pm and I was there about 12.30, so no complaints. I left my bags and went off to have lunch at Gossips on Walking Street. Lovely waitress with a great ass, I wanted her there and then, but she resisted my advances! Anyway, back to CPT and moved in. My Sunday afternoon girl ahd been pestering me to come around as soon as I got back, so I told her to come round, and her mens had just started! Not my week, she was the 4th in a week! I went back to the trusty wechat and found a willing partner for dinner and all night. I met her at the hotel door at 8, really pretty girl with (apparently) huge boobs, and took her up to the top floor for dinner. Strange how some of these girls order enough food to feed an army! So we had a nice meal, she was of course impressed with the roof deck restaurant and pool, and we did a few pics. Eventually she decided she could not eat all the food she'd ordered (and asked for a doggy bag for the rest! Fine by me. So back to the room, and down to the serious business, when she took off her bra, there was hardly anything there! The bra was not just padded, it was almost completely foam! No problem for me, I like small boobs and she had a great figure, slim and trim. We had a great night together, and she left in the morning about 11. I took her down to the door, so she didn't have to take the walk of shame to the reception, either coming in or leaving. Took some rest in the afternoon, with a plan to meet up with Chrisde99 who was arriving in AC later. We decided to eat at Phillies, followed up with a bit of barhopping. I haven't often had company in AC, and don't like to barhop alone, so that was a great experience. Didn't feel inspired to BF anyone, so we went home alone. Fast forward to Sunday afternoon, Chrisde99 wanted to take me to Nifty's bar on Perimeter Road, or actually just off it near the Boomerang Hotel. A small bar, bit scruffy, but contains some really horny girls, who pounce on you as soon as you enter. They are all over you, touchy feely, lovely afternoon delight. A real revelation, finally found some excitement in a bar! A piece of advice from Chrisde99 was for me to try Levitra. This is the latest and greatest in the Viagra. Cialis range. We called in at the Southern Drug Store (formally Mansion Drug) near the 7-11 store, where I bought a pack of 4 x 20 MG tablets. Best to start with a quarter or half, maximum. The effect is quite impressive, lasting after 1 hour for at least 24 hours, and no obvious side effects, and a rod as stiff as iron! Lovely. Back to the CPT for a visit from my PL girl, again a great all nighter and I was able to do her proud thanks to my new found friend! Paid her with a nice tip in the morning and took her down to the door again, just out of respect. A lovely girl, I will return for her. That's it, check out and off to Clark for the Singapore flight!

[Threadbare]

Earlier this month I had a few days in AC, which I have been doing about this time of year for a few years now. I flew with Qatar Airways, in order to fly right into Clark, unfortunately it all went wrong in Doha when I missed the connection due to late arrival. Its the first time I tried that flight, and coming from a 50 minute delayed departure at London (not uncommon these days), the transfer time of 45 minutes was obviously a problem. Anyway Qatar airways looked after the 13 of us pretty well, and offered choice of the same flight following day, or Manila and bus transfer 7 hours later same day. So we took that, and finally arrived at Clark 12 hours late. I had cancelled my airport pick up to Queens Hotel, but was able to get a drop off, as the "bus transfer" from Manila turned into a fleet of 7 seater taxis with 3 - 4 in each. So finally out on the street about 10 pm. Met a cutie on the street near 7-11 store beyond Margerita Station and took her back. Turned out when we got to the room she had started her mens, so I sent her away and took her number for later in the week. Turned out her number was already in my phone from a previous visit! Small world! Found another from wechat who wanted to bring her friend, I said no just one, but they both came anyway, then I had a call from reception saying there was another one there and I could only have 2 joiners in the room! All got a bit confusing and I ended up sending them all away. I tried to get the first one back on here own as she had really nice figure, but didn't manage it.

Following afternoon I took another wechat girl who was really good, fabulous BJ and really did it for me. I had a PL date lined up for the evening, so sent the afternoon delight on her way and took a rest. I kept her number and promised to see her after my planned visit to Subic, later in the week.

I had planned to meet up with BrainDrain, but we were not in contact, so unfortunately had to miss that one. Sorry BD! Anyway PL date arrived, really lovely girl, sweet nature and really sexy, 20 years old. She has a kid but had made arrangements to stay all night and she did just that. We had a great time and when she left in the morning I promised to see her again on my return from Subic, I planned to save her for my last night in AC.

So off to Subic on Swaggy bus!

[Sxxxx]

I think the murder took place near Garfields around 1 AM. Absolutely terrible. I believe he was living in AC and not a tourist. He may have resisted his attackers. ......

I don't think he resisted the attackers. They sneak up at your back and shoot ya in the back of the head. You do not know its going to happen. Believe that happened to victim in this case too. Happened to the guy leaving Norma's exchange too, back of the head. Hard to avoid, unless your looking around your back all the time. In and out of Perimeter Rd before sundown, is the best M. O.

[NapaSlapper]

I think the murder took place near Garfields around 1 AM. Absolutely terrible. I believe he was living in AC and not a tourist. He may have resisted his attackers. AC is an extra dangerous place in the PI. I would not take on unnecessary risks there like immoderate drinking, being alone on deserted streets in the wee hours, picking up girls on the street, and pissing people off.

Pompetus,

You might be confusing Paul Atkins murder with one of the other many murders.

Paul was a good friend, he was not an expat but a tourist, he was shot dead in broad daylight up past lost in Asia bar.

Yes he might have resisted but then again he might have not, the police and papers said at the time that there was no sign of a struggle or any blow marks on Paul indicating he was ambushed shot dead first and then robbed.

What stands out is that there is some real scum roaming the streets of Angeles who are willing to pull the trigger for all of $10, no wonder the president recently ordered the killing of thousands of drug addicted pinoy scum, only way to clear them out IMHO.

Here is an interesting link to a list of recent murders in Angeles for those who might be thinking all is safe https://harrythehorse.asia/post/slow-justice.

What strikes me as most interesting is that almost all remain unsolved with the police taking little interest in clearing up these murders.

[Member #4566]

As for serious crimes, never forget Paul Raymond Atkins was shot then robbed in broad daylight on perimeter road for just a $10 phone.

I think the murder took place near Garfields around 1 AM. Absolutely terrible. I believe he was living in AC and not a tourist. He may have resisted his attackers. AC is an extra dangerous place in the PI. I would not take on unnecessary risks there like immoderate drinking, being alone on deserted streets in the wee hours, picking up girls on the street, and pissing people off.

[SrChivo]

I may or may have not slammed one of those idiots selling cigarettes, Viagra, cialis. Only so many times I'm going to tell you no and go away. He thought it was a joke. This was next to viking bar. Too many pan handlers. Too much fake shit. Tourist police should limit them.

No is no, not keep asking.

[D Cups]

Until your post I did not know about 2485. Thanks, OM.

. Until DC's post, hadn't realized American Legion Post 123 was still open.

OM.

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[NapaSlapper]

Mr E,

As I have said you have no official statistics to confirm that Angeles is in fact safer than Pattaya.

If your claims were in the slightest true how do you explain that every convenience store in Angeles has armed guards, every small / large bar, every small / large hotel, every mall, most ATM machines, I have even seen an armed guard outside a barbers shop of all things, do you see this on the streets of Pattaya, no you do not, why, because the crime rate is much lower and the relevant establishments in Pattaya do not see a need for them unlike in Angeles where small armies are hired with enough automatic weapons to start a small war to try to keep the scum from killing and robbing them and visitors blind.

As of your claims that fights do not happen in Angeles nothing could be further from the truth, Of course fights happen in Angeles, pinoys just love to kick the crap out of foreigners for even the silliest of things, especially when drink and drugs are involved, if in doubt just think back to the gang of pinoy Dollhouse doormen who put a foreigner in a coma not so long ago for no reason at all.

As for serious crimes, never forget Paul Raymond Atkins was shot then robbed in broad daylight on perimeter road for just a $10 phone, that is only one example of a whole list of guys.

Think of the pinoy who shot dead 6-7 foreigners in cold blood while attending their residences to do odd jobs.

Have we forgotten the scum police only very recently who tried to extort very large sums of money out of a Korean and when he could not or would not pay was murdered in cold blood by guys (police) that are paid to protect people.

Can not in my 30 odd years of living in Thailand remember any tourist being shot dead in any street robbery for his belongings in Pattaya or any Pattaya police officers murdering a tourist over extortion and greed or any other reason.

[Mr Enternational]

Mr E,

With due respect where do you get your supposed facts on Pattaya being more dangerous than AC.

Have you some official statistics to back this up? I have never seen any and I and most guys I know would totally disagree with your claims.

While I fully agree with you that petty crime in pattaya is reported regularly one has to look at the time these incidents are happening, to whom, where they are and what they are wearing, as you will agree most gold snatches / ladyboy disputes. Guys getting slapped by the mamasun for not paying their bill all happen in the wee hours of the morning with most punters drunk or out walking in areas while wearing 1000's of baht in gold necklaces or walking alone down soi 6/1 at 3 am looking for guys in dresses to give one a blow job.

As I have always said pattaya is as safe as one wants to make it, its the punters choice, with some minor care most situations are totally avoidable.

You forgot to add the female Russian tourists who seem to get their purses snatched every week.

"He said he had been ordered by the national police HQ to stop crime against tourists. "
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/..._campaign=news

Maybe the 35 police presence points that they are setting up around the city says something about there being more crime against tourists in Pattaya than in AC.

I know a member of this board whose chain almost got snatched. And no he was not walking down a dark alley full of ladyboys and drunk at 3 am. It was the afternoon and he was driving down the main highway on his bike with his girlfriend when 2 guys on another motorbike pulled up and decided they could put his chain to better use. Luckily for him the clasp broke and the necklace fell down in his shirt. Being from Chicago and a military veteran this guy is no punk.

One could argue that it is irrelevant the who, when, and where, but the fact that whatever happens is what makes a place considered dangerous. Neither a bank nor a dark alley is dangerous until the robber or thief holding a weapon shows up.

Personally, I do not see Pattaya or AC as dangerous. I do not scare as easily as many people and being from the ghetto I guess I am indifferent to what many would consider dangerous. In the Medellin, Colombia thread people say how dangerous downtown is and definitely to be out of there by nightfall. Well I stay downtown and once wrote a report where I walked around at night filming and taking pictures of dope fiends with my Samsung flagship phone. Nothing happened. Nobody attacked me; nobody tried to steal my phone.

For the record I have been living in Pattaya for 7 years and nothing has ever happened to me here either. I also lived in the City of God (maybe you have seen the movie) neighborhood with my ex-girlfriend in Rio de Janeiro. Never a scratch nor a worry. Maybe I am just lucky or a fool or maybe even both.

"Yet Again Expat Stabbed Inured
Foreigner was assaulted injured by group of Thai men in Pattaya."
http://pattayadailynews.com/yet-agai...tabbed-inured/

PATTAYA February 22,2017 [PattayaDailyNews]; at 10.30am Pol Col Apichai Krobpetch, chief of Pattaya police station, led a team of police to arrest Mr Narunart Kunman aged 29 who attacked Mr Okamoto Naoya aged 23 from Japan injured. The incident took place in Bakadin restaurant in South Pattaya.

Pol Col Apichai revealed that Mr Okamoto was eating in the restaurant then the attacker walked into the restaurant and hit the victim with bottle before he ran away.

Has anyone ever been sitting in Margarita Station, Phillies, or Kokomo's eating and a Pinoy just walks in and clocks them with a bottle? LOL. That is why Pattaya is more dangerous!

[Robbaf]

Think that went over my head. Too much planning and acting. I usually down play such things because you become a target. NYC rules die hard.

Agree, karma hopefully will catch up with him soon.

[Dasisextra]

Dang it Mr. E. What hotel is asking for girls' IDs?

Can you clear your box please.

Thank you.

Message me,

Thanks.

[Omega 3]

There is another one: Post 123 that I have been to (not 2485)..

Right, they are two different US military retiree organizations. American Legion (Post 123) versus Veterans of Foreign Wars (Post 2485). VFW Post 2485 is the larger and more active of the two. The VFW canteen (restaurant), which is on Pinatubo Street, is open to the public and run by the same restaurateur who owns Puzzle's Cafe. Nothing fancy, but basic American chow at fairly inexpensive prices. A bit similar to Rumpa. Until DC's post, hadn't realized American Legion Post 123 was still open.

OM.

[BushRusher]

I think his point was he flucked for free.

Think that went over my head. Too much planning and acting. I usually down play such things because you become a target. NYC rules die hard.