Bali

[LifeIsABeach]

Wow! Those numbers look intimidating to the unfamiliar bule. However, putting them through XE.com, you are talking $15 or $20 USD either way. I though Bali was supposed to be more expensive than Jakarata. Or are we looking at more expensive in terms of other travel expenses (lodging, food and beverage, transport, etc.)? I know that's just part of the equation. Is there some downside that I am missing something or is this just a great place to monger?

Dirk was talking about Aquariums / fish bowls and X Houses in Sanur. They are cheap. Even though they say one hour, it really is one trick. It definitely is not bad at all as I had wonderful time with the girls there. Even when I was there over a year ago, minimum being asked was 250 K, some even 300 K. Days are gone for the Usual 200 K. But still very cheap.

As mentioned by others, if you use internet sites or pick up where the night clubs etc are, girls ask a lot more but service may be the same as the X houses, no better. All depends where you monger in Bali.

[Roger Sideways]

Wow! Those numbers look intimidating to the unfamiliar bule. However, putting them through XE.com, you are talking $15 or $20 USD either way. I though Bali was supposed to be more expensive than Jakarata. Or are we looking at more expensive in terms of other travel expenses (lodging, food and beverage, transport, etc.)? I know that's just part of the equation. Is there some downside that I am missing something or is this just a great place to monger?

For casual visitors it can be expensive. The places that cater mainly for tourists and the freelancers in the nightclubs can be expensive, sometimes even by US / Australian standards. But with some patience, exploring and wise bargaining you can find abundant young lovelies in Bali willing to do the deed for the equivalent of $20 or less.

[Eszpresszo]

Papa demanded 250 K, even when I handed over 200 K and said "usual price". He insisted for the girl I picked it was 250 K. Probably could have started walking and gotten 200 K, but I couldn't be bothered to haggle over 50 K, and I was not really interested in touring all the fishbowls LOL. Experience was decent even though you definitely feel like you're in a rural village doing something dirty. That being said, the room and bathroom were reasonably clean.

Wow! Those numbers look intimidating to the unfamiliar bule. However, putting them through XE.com, you are talking $15 or $20 USD either way. I though Bali was supposed to be more expensive than Jakarata. Or are we looking at more expensive in terms of other travel expenses (lodging, food and beverage, transport, etc.)? I know that's just part of the equation. Is there some downside that I am missing something or is this just a great place to monger?

[Dirk67]

Be patient, my friend. Things have not gone up that much. I just turned down offers of 500 and 700. With perseverance you should not end up paying more than 400 k and there are still some lovelies available in the 2-300 range.

Well, probably need much more perseverance than I have time for. So far, on the apps have never gotten an offer below 700 K out of 20+ girls. About 40% won't budge from 1-1. 2 jt. 55% won't go below 800 K. Then one went down to 700 K. When I offer 400,500, even 600, they laugh and say f* off in various ways LOL.

That being said, I made a little jaunt over to Sanur to 67 X. Was a surreal experience, only 3 girls available but two of them doable and the one I chose was slim, very tiny, and cute. Good positive attitude too, considering the environs, and I interrupted her dinner as I arrived around 5 pm. Papa demanded 250 K, even when I handed over 200 K and said "usual price". He insisted for the girl I picked it was 250 K. Probably could have started walking and gotten 200 K, but I couldn't be bothered to haggle over 50 K, and I was not really interested in touring all the fishbowls LOL. Experience was decent even though you definitely feel like you're in a rural village doing something dirty. That being said, the room and bathroom were reasonably clean.

Went to Circle K next door for some wet tissues to wipe off the sweat, and the parking guy gave me a shit eating grin and a thumbs up. Then asked me "good?" LOL. He also wanted to know how much I paid, and he nodded knowingly.

Seems I will likely strike out on the apps, might try a "spa", Angel or Mawar, if not Riverview or Delta / Onassis, but I expect those will be similar to BKK.

[ThreeLilBirds]

Personally, (still working age in a good job) I will spend 15 jt an hour if the girl is super fine looking, thin, decent boobs and a half-decent fuck.

That should have said "1.5 jt an hour" I can be stupid with my cash, but not that stupid.

[ThreeLilBirds]

Have been trying out the apps / wechat. So far, been getting offers of 1-1. 5 jt. Of course, I say no, usual price is 350-500 k. (tried different amounts to see what they say). Most then don't bother negotiating and a few have gone off and said things like "yes, if you want to f* fat f* ugly girls! LOL.

Those that do negotiate (about 25%) won't seem to go below 800 K. What is going on here, have prices really inflated so much? Offering 600 K even gets no reply.

Yeah, I've found 90% of girls on Badoo start at the 1 juta an hour. Some are flexible in price, some are not. I guess everyone's MMV depending on a few things like; have you had a decent conversation with her and made her laugh a few times before popping the question? Are you a decent enough looking guy that she has some degree of sexual attraction and would consider fucking you (for free) if you asked her in a public setting? The most annoying thing for me, is all these sideways and duck-face selfies on profiles and not really knowing what the girls face or body actually looks like before she shows up. Unless she supplies you with a recent body shot or confirms in PM that she is (what you're looking for). Everyone has different standards, a different idea of value for money and certain criteria that makes the spend worth it, or not worth it.

Personally, (still working age in a good job) I will spend 15 jt an hour if the girl is super fine looking, thin, decent boobs and a half-decent fuck. No worries spending that myself whereas if you're a permanent expat here with a budget, then you would not even think of spending 1.5 jt no matter the quality. Conversations here (and other forums) from the seasoned veterans figure that paying anything more than (bare minimum) 250/300ST and we are pushing the market prices up. And I can see that maybe in a way we are. But on the flip-side, I'm not happy paying 300 k to fuck something with pig fat, stretch marks, 2 kids at 30+ years old. No offense, but I cringe at some of the pictures in this forum LMAO and I think to myself, my Johnson wouldn't even stand to attention if he was forced to wrangle with those Bush-pigs. IMHO paying the most super sub-standard Indo 300 k for a root when there are much better options is pushing the prices up!

My reasoning is; if the worst of the worst fat, ugly, 30+year old Indo WG can still get a shag and make coin in a brothel, then the absolute young, thin, gorgeous honeys rolling in from all corners of the archipelago see this and wonder to themselves "Why the feck am I getting paid the same as these Bush-pigs sitting in this fishbowl? I'm heaps better looking!" and so understandably they either go to a upmarket spa or go solo, mostly both. Market demand dictates that if all the real worst of the worst were not able to make money in this business then the minimum standard of girls would come up nicely. And again on the flip-side Bush-pigs just may be your thing.

[Roger Sideways]

Have been trying out the apps / wechat. So far, been getting offers of 1-1. 5 jt. Of course, I say no, usual price is 350-500 k. (tried different amounts to see what they say). Most then don't bother negotiating and a few have gone off and said things like "yes, if you want to f* fat f* ugly girls! LOL.

Those that do negotiate (about 25%) won't seem to go below 800 K. What is going on here, have prices really inflated so much? Offering 600 K even gets no reply.

Be patient, my friend. Things have not gone up that much. I just turned down offers of 500 and 700. With perseverance you should not end up paying more than 400 k and there are still some lovelies available in the 2-300 range.

[ThreeLilBirds]

I considered this one too-- the ad has changed already and the photos are of a different girl. I think this is an agency using photos from that model's instagram, especially since her instagram indicates she has been in Europe, US and Russia the past few weeks LOL. Too good to be true.

I'm fairly certain that most of the premium models themselves don't control the Instagram accounts. Hence most updates are delayed or even much older pictures. I confirmed with Zuueva herself via message that it is definitely her. I have also messaged a few of these Russian / Euro escorts and they have all confirmed they are the woman in the (modelling) pictures. Two have even given me selfies to confirm.

You are right about the account though, the agency is just using the same wording on the advertisements and changing the models pictures and numbers.

Nearly every price quoted is the same. $250 usd ST a couple girls at $300 usd ST (didn't ask LT) and nearly every service offer I've been given is the same; 'Sensual massage', BBBJ, Covered Sex. 1 HR.

Only 1 of 7 has agreed to anal, 2 of 7 could manage deep throat, none would allow CIM, but 5 of 7 allow COF for +$50 usd. None would allow pics.

So yeah, considering the anal and deep-throat were not offered by the same girl, it was a deal-breaker for me. I mean FFS (For fucks sake. There's one not in the ISG abbreviations lexicon), you're a PRO traveling the world riding cock to get by. At least be a PRO at it.

[Dirk67]

Have been trying out the apps / wechat. So far, been getting offers of 1-1. 5 jt. Of course, I say no, usual price is 350-500 k. (tried different amounts to see what they say). Most then don't bother negotiating and a few have gone off and said things like "yes, if you want to f* fat f* ugly girls! LOL.

Those that do negotiate (about 25%) won't seem to go below 800 K. What is going on here, have prices really inflated so much? Offering 600 K even gets no reply.

[Dirk67]

Have been keeping an eye on the Bali back-page which has a number of FL advertising on there as has been mentioned here many times. Ranging from nice Indos at 1 jt / HR to high class European escorts at 5 jt and up.

I've contacted a few of them on whatsapp to get the menu and prices, but nothing has really peaked my interest. Maybe I'd like to spend a little time nestled up to Pearl's massive titties, but haven't gone there yet as she is expensive.

There is however one Euro girl that just popped up however that peeked my attention; working name is 'Sveta'. However I know her modelling name as Ekaterina Zuueva.

Her instagram is 'Zuueva' or 'Zuuevalife'. Just check out those pics.

This is one piece of ass I would pay handsomely to take out for wine, dine and 69.

She's in Bali for 14 days, which doesn't line up with my dates. However if you have the cash to splash, I would love to read a report on that adventure!

I considered this one too-- the ad has changed already and the photos are of a different girl. I think this is an agency using photos from that model's instagram, especially since her instagram indicates she has been in Europe, US and Russia the past few weeks LOL. Too good to be true.

[Dirk67]

Ask them specifically about Devi.

The website indicates 1. 2 first time and 1 jt regular customers. You said you paid 800 k total?

[ThreeLilBirds]

So I've been doing quite a bit of ground work for my upcoming trip. I thought I'd try the app circuit and as has been suggested here in the forums, Badoo was good for hunting Indo smurf. So I thought I'd try it first.

(There is also a very good review of hunting Indo girls social media / apps on jakarta100 bars website).

I'm happy I chose this platform first as within 1 week I have so many real GF companions and FL numbers, it will be impossible to meet them all in the 5 days I will be available.

For those that don't know, Badoo is a chat / friend / hook up app. It shows you potential 'friends' in your local area. Since I'm not in Indo at the moment, I installed a (completely free and easy to use) app called 'GPS Emulator' and set it to somewhere in Bali. You can zoom in on the map anywhere and set the location. I've used many different spots such as Beachwalk Kuta Beach, Skygarden, Potatoe Head Beach Club, Cocoon, Danao Poso at On On Bar, Akasaka in Denpasar etc. Even though I've only been on this a week now, it's clear that your level of success depends on how much $ you want to put into it. You can put in nothing however and still get 'match-ups'. But spend a little cash. (I've used $20 aud) and you get your profile seen by more and get shown more potential 'friends'. (not sure if there are any ads to put up with if you don't deposit some coin).

There is a tonne of freelancers on there as well as the genuine girls that are looking for long term / marriage relationships and yes bencong banyak. Some of them are a little hard to spot, but they are honest so it's easy to hit the 'block' button. (most will have ladyboy or TS in their name or profile).

If you are looking to get hooked up quick, you should have no trouble within a couple hours MAX! As bad as the generalization is; if the girl has a choker necklace on. She's available to boom boom. (I've had a stupidly high success rate. Only 2 out of maybe 50 with chokers have stated they don't FL) Many of the pictures are clearly taken whilst sitting in the fishbowl or karaoke bar with other girls in the background. Don't be shy make it clear what you want and they'll shoot you back a price or tell you they're not interested.

What is astonishing to me is a lot of these girls have phones with 2 megapixel+ cameras, but the photos are awful quality. LOL and 75% are face sideways pics and not many body shots. Most are happy to send more pics in private message and give you a whatsapp # for contact.

What I really like about the app is that you can check who is / was in the immediate area close to you (also can see if they are online) and message them straight away. (You can only send 2 messages to them, before you need to get a single reply. Then you can message at will.).

It even shows you who you 'bumped into' which I take it, is if they were within 10 m of you. (I think it's within the last 24 hrs though) It will show you a map where you both were and at what time.

Pros:

- Simple and free app.

- Hundreds of genuine girls just want to hang out / chat / party / travel.

- Hundreds of FL's are active on there.

- Easy to find hook-ups with any type of person you are looking for (search function is decent).

- Heaps of the girls that work for the spas and nightclubs are active on there.

- Using 'people nearby' and 'online' mode will almost get you instant action.

Cons:

- Sometimes pics take ages to load.

- A lot of Indo girls are poor at replying to messages with anything more than 2 or 3 words. (suspect for some its limited Bahasa English).

- As soon as the FL's know you're not in Bali and available to boom boom in the next 48 hrs, they'll pretty much not reply. They'll tell you to message when you are in Bali. Understandable, time is money and you can only imagine the amount of messages some of these girls get.

- A lot of the super fine snatch Face: 8 Body: 8 have a profile, but they haven't logged in for over a month. (you won't see their last log-in until you've messaged them).

As can be expected, prices are all over the place. I've had some F:8 be:8 commit to 250-300 k ST whilst also some fugly girls F:5 be:6 asking 2 jt ST and stand rock solid and not budge! Don't know who is paying these sub-standard FL's so much for ST. But hey everybody got to get some, sometime.

I've also met two pimps and a 'pimp-ette' LOL that work for some of the bigger name spas have been sending pictures of the girls currently at the spas ready to come for you to have à la carte in your villa / hotel. The prices quoted are the same as the spa service, however I've been able to negotiate to the local prices which is around 200-500 k cheaper than advertised! (keep that in mind next time you go to a FS Spa).

If you're not yet in Indo or can't deal with chasing snatch around crowded nightclubs and having to spend money buying them drinks and negotiating terms at shouting level alongside deafening bass beats, this is an easy way to go.

If you use it, use the 'people nearby' and 'online' mode! Then use the 'GPS Emulator' app to move your location around! Too easy.

I'd like to know any feedback or hints / tips / successes you have on Badoo or other social media / apps.

Happy mongering.

TLB.

[RyanCM]

I just got back from 3 days in Sanur. I stayed near the circle k fishbowl. I took 3 girls from the fish bowl 250 k plus their tip. Pretty crap to average experience and rushed. At 99 x the mamasan asked me what I like, lovely spinner about 35 kg really tiny. That was the best of my trip. Overall I like Thailand better.

[ThreeLilBirds]

Have been keeping an eye on the Bali back-page which has a number of FL advertising on there as has been mentioned here many times. Ranging from nice Indos at 1 jt / HR to high class European escorts at 5 jt and up.

I've contacted a few of them on whatsapp to get the menu and prices, but nothing has really peaked my interest. Maybe I'd like to spend a little time nestled up to Pearl's massive titties, but haven't gone there yet as she is expensive.

There is however one Euro girl that just popped up however that peeked my attention; working name is 'Sveta'. However I know her modelling name as Ekaterina Zuueva.

Her instagram is 'Zuueva' or 'Zuuevalife'. Just check out those pics.

This is one piece of ass I would pay handsomely to take out for wine, dine and 69.

She's in Bali for 14 days, which doesn't line up with my dates. However if you have the cash to splash, I would love to read a report on that adventure!

[BushRusher]

The Bali Monger Map is there anyway that we can share comments on the map and add new locations?

Or is that only available to the map owner? Anyone have a contact?

The Bali X Map is quite a few years older, some of the reviews are 2009/10/11/12 so unknown if half of those spots still exist.

Be good to know if the owner of that map is still mongering, he would be very well traveled by now.

Please RTFF and Google this thread. It has been years since I logged on and there were some changes. On a quick look, it has the information there. If you cannot add to the map you can try PM senior member Barri as the map is his or maybe another member can modify it if you post the corrected / updated information here. The login / printing instructions are on the map site. Your updates will be much appreciated.