Aruba

[RainMan270]

Thanks for the info. Can anybody tell me what SXM stands for? Also, are there chicas at the resorts and casinos?

[CzarTiger]

Going to Aruba next week and looking for any updates or advice on best options?

[FootnballCoach]

Located on Palm Beach between the Marriotts Surf Club and the Holiday Inn. Sunday the bar is packed. You can't move. Friday they have a band and action is good. Thur and Sat a DJ just OK. Other nights dead. I haven't taken any out as my family is in the room. I go to St Nicholas. Read my posts.

I'll be there tomorrow night, I'll let you know.

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[DanAndAndy]

How is Moomba bar during the week? Any girls working Wednesday or Thursday?

I'll be there tomorrow night, I'll let you know.

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[MrPootyTang999]

I haven't been to the place, I didn't realize it was frequented by the chicas. Is that just on Sunday or every day?

How is Moomba bar during the week? Any girls working Wednesday or Thursday?

[Machodude]

Sunday nights are busy at the Moomba Bar in Palm Beach. You will find girls working there, $100, take them back to your room.

I haven't been to the place, I didn't realize it was frequented by the chicas. Is that just on Sunday or every day?

[DanAndAndy]

Sunday nights are busy at the Moomba Bar in Palm Beach. You will find girls working there, $100, take them back to your room.

[DonJon2015]

Finally will be returning to the happy island after a long absence. How is San Nicolas right now? I read the recent reports and I can see what you guys mean. It can be hit or miss but I enjoy the nightlife scene. I will be reporting live in a couple of weeks.

[Masseys1]

There are actually 4 and a half streets. The last street up from California Bar has 3 or 4 Dominicans living in a corner building. If you can't find it, you're not missing out on anything. I think the bars open around 7 pm They are virtually empty all night, and the chicas hang out in front. Your best bet would be Copacabana Bar, down from Charlie's Bar. Same side of street. Seemed there were some fairly attractive girls there. Sofia speaks excellent English, but I met her one night and tabled doing anything with her till the next night and never saw her around again. My chica friend Natalia from Colombia is over on Jan. Something Straat. She's got long dark hair and nice bolt ONS. She's 32 though, but never married and never had any kids. You can offer her 50 florin, but she'll put a puss on. Her room as most of them is basically right on the street. With open door, there's the bed. She shares a bathroom with the girl to your left. Pretty depressing room scenario. San Nicolas is the car version of walking the RLD in Amsterdam, if you've ever been there. Guys will go up and down the streets hoping that something magical will happen and that a stunner chica will materialize out of thin air. But it ain't going to happen!

So here's the highlight of my San Nicolas experience. And I'm still trying to understand how it came to be! The Sunday I was in town, I was working on a couple of chicas I'd been with to go to Baby Beach. Of course even though the town was dead, they were looking for money. Natalia wanted 200 and another 30 something year old wanted 100 for a couple of hours going to la playa. I was going to take the 100 dollar chica, just because she had a better attitude, but I decided to circle the block one more time. Well, good move on my part! So I'm walking and walk past Charlie's Bar and head to Copacabana Bar where a couple of chicas were out in front that I'd never seen before. I approach them and ask them if they'd like to go to the beach! Well, they were off with me like a dress on prom night! My car was parked down by Fan Restaurant, and just like that I had two fairly hot Colombians walking with me to the rental car. No questions asked!

One is Luanda. Tall, volleyball player build. The other was short. Perky tits and an ass you could bounce quarters off of! So we get in my car, and first thing I say to myself is we need beer to kick this party off! I head to the supermarket I'd been going to, only to find it closed. Then went to another. Picked up a couple of six packs. They wanted Chill. And off to the beach we go!

So they're both in shorts and tops and once at the beach, the chica with the ass to die for, takes off her shorts to reveal a hot pink dental floss bikini bottom. Every guy at the beach must have gotten punched by their other half. I was the king of the world! Now a couple of locals come over that they must have met before. They were cool, and one of them was actually the beachchair rental guy. They asked him for cups of ice since the only cold beer in Aruba at a store are singles and we drank those in the car to the beach. We went in the water together and killed the two six packs. Now the smaller chica who sat in the back of the car was tired and wanted to go home. No problem, I wanted the one that sit in the front seat next to me anyway. So I drop the littler one back off in San Nicolas and ask the other if she wants to get something to eat. She says yes. And I head up toward Oranjestad. I take her on a bit of a tour. Show her California lighthouse and then we stop at Bro and Beer for wings and more beer. She seemed to be enjoying herself and I was having a good time as well. I actually started to feel sorry for her, knowing that her brief trip to the civilized world would soon end, as I would drop her off in depressing San Nicolas for her to nap and exist in a small room with a bed and a closet. Sort of a living hell. I dropped her back at her gated door in San Nicolas and said I would see her later that night. I had already checked out of my apartment since I planned on doing an all night before flying out in the morning. I never saw her back out on the street again. Nor her friend. But the time at the beach will always be a memory I'll cherish from Aruba.

So there you have it. Sounds like SXM is in rebuild mode. And Aruba, well, it's probably seen better days. Next up for me is Campo, before that ends up going downhill. Bottom line, if you're thinking of going to Aruba, with the sole purpose of playing around in San Nicolas. Don't. It's not worth it.

Club Ted if you read my trip report here awhile back I completely agree with comments. I am by no means the monger expert, but have been to Costa Rica, Aruba, and to Black Beards and Sosua in the DR. I was shocked by how bad the girls looked over all. That house with the 4 or 5 girls (that were 4's and 5's) is where I believe I came across an older Mexican looking lady that was so bad I can't put it in words. I was guessing that house was not part of the girls coming in but were locals? Anyway just wanted to say thanks for report and I really found everything you said to be my experience to at T.

[Cursnoop]

ClubTed,

I enjoyed reading your reports and completely agree with your assessment of what SN is like. I travel to AUA quite often, but mostly for sun, beach and cold beverages, and when the temperature back home is waaaayyyy below freezing. Last few times I was in AUA, I drove to SN once (to see if it looks any better than previously) and drove back to "hotel area" without even stopping.

But I'm writing this mainly to tell you something that I've learned from my interactions with a chica in Aruba many years ago, and your report brought back a lot of old memories. Look, I don't want to sound like a heartless pri*ck, but I think you're making too big of a deal about the chicas' conditions in SN. They know full well what they're in for. For the vast majority this is not their first time in SN, and not the first or second or third time on the islands. If you felt sorry for that girl you should have given her $100. That's what they're there for.

A number of years ago I flew to AUA to see one "special" girl that I've known for several years. Her living conditions in SN were just as you've described. Shared room, shared toilet, all day sitting on a plastic chair behind metal gate, bored out her mind..

Lucky is right, don't feel sorry for the girls there could be some exceptions but most of the girls when the money is up your time is also up. I know a lot of locals and I have seen chicas talking shit and after that go ran up to the same dudes they talk bad about. I am currently In Aruba and I am leaving tomorrow and truth be told I have seen some fine chicas in the last 2 weeks some left some are still there, the thing is you need to hit Sanikolaas more often to see new chicas, because some chicas are occupied or are out with their clients and you think that the leftovers which most are ugly are the norm. ClubTed send me a pm, I am not good with the chica names if you describe them maybe I know some.

[Lucky Strike]

... I actually started to feel sorry for her, knowing that her brief trip to the civilized world would soon end, as I would drop her off in depressing San Nicolas for her to nap and exist in a small room with a bed and a closet. Sort of a living hell. I dropped her back at her gated door in San Nicolas...

ClubTed,

I enjoyed reading your reports and completely agree with your assessment of what SN is like. I travel to AUA quite often, but mostly for sun, beach and cold beverages, and when the temperature back home is waaaayyyy below freezing. Last few times I was in AUA, I drove to SN once (to see if it looks any better than previously) and drove back to "hotel area" without even stopping.

But I'm writing this mainly to tell you something that I've learned from my interactions with a chica in Aruba many years ago, and your report brought back a lot of old memories. Look, I don't want to sound like a heartless pri*ck, but I think you're making too big of a deal about the chicas' conditions in SN. They know full well what they're in for. For the vast majority this is not their first time in SN, and not the first or second or third time on the islands. If you felt sorry for that girl you should have given her $100. That's what they're there for.

A number of years ago I flew to AUA to see one "special" girl that I've known for several years. Her living conditions in SN were just as you've described. Shared room, shared toilet, all day sitting on a plastic chair behind metal gate, bored out her mind. She used to email me how much she hated SN and wanted out, how much she disliked "smelly oil workers", etc etc. I took her "out" for 6 days and 6 nights, having to pay over $4 k (after negotiating for 2 hours with the bar owner to lower the multa) for the "privilege" (and who knows how much more or restaurants, drinks, trips and casinos.) Hey, it was worth it! I don't have any "freaky requests", so I think the $3 k+ that she made was the easiest $3 k in here "career.

I felt excruciatingly sorry for her when I dropped her off in front of her bar in SN and drove back to pack my stuff before early morning flight. I couldn't sleep, and drove to SN to see her again at 2:30 am. Well, knowing that I was leaving the following morning (no more dinero to extract) she wasn't at all happy to see me. Especially when I told her that I just wanted to see her and wasn't going to go to her room. She literally spent less than 2 minutes with me, said "sorry" and went to "work" on the next "smelly oil worker" who just walked into the bar, to try to get him to pay 50 florins for 30 min in that shitty dormitorio with a shared bed and a shared toilet. That really opened my eyes on how things really work in "the industry". Just had to get it off my chest.

There probably are chicas in the "industry" in SN (or SXM, or Campo, or POP / Sosua, or SDQ) that are different from "mine", but I've not met anyone like that yet. ClubTed, I assume that you're from one of the more / most "developed" countries in the world. These chicas are from real ghetto. What seems outrageous to someone from the 1st world country is the way of life for them. Don't feel sorry for these girls for the WRONG reasons. Their goal is not to go to a beach, or fancy restaurant food, or pleasant company. They'll obviously take it if offered, but they're there to bring back as much dinero as possible. Feeling sad for them can totally ruin one's trip. As hard as it seems, I think you should not. If you pay them, you can have 100% piece of mind that they're quite happy. And so can you.

[ClubTed]

There are actually 4 and a half streets. The last street up from California Bar has 3 or 4 Dominicans living in a corner building. If you can't find it, you're not missing out on anything. I think the bars open around 7 pm They are virtually empty all night, and the chicas hang out in front. Your best bet would be Copacabana Bar, down from Charlie's Bar. Same side of street. Seemed there were some fairly attractive girls there. Sofia speaks excellent English, but I met her one night and tabled doing anything with her till the next night and never saw her around again. My chica friend Natalia from Colombia is over on Jan. Something Straat. She's got long dark hair and nice bolt ONS. She's 32 though, but never married and never had any kids. You can offer her 50 florin, but she'll put a puss on. Her room as most of them is basically right on the street. With open door, there's the bed. She shares a bathroom with the girl to your left. Pretty depressing room scenario. San Nicolas is the car version of walking the RLD in Amsterdam, if you've ever been there. Guys will go up and down the streets hoping that something magical will happen and that a stunner chica will materialize out of thin air. But it ain't going to happen!

So here's the highlight of my San Nicolas experience. And I'm still trying to understand how it came to be! The Sunday I was in town, I was working on a couple of chicas I'd been with to go to Baby Beach. Of course even though the town was dead, they were looking for money. Natalia wanted 200 and another 30 something year old wanted 100 for a couple of hours going to la playa. I was going to take the 100 dollar chica, just because she had a better attitude, but I decided to circle the block one more time. Well, good move on my part! So I'm walking and walk past Charlie's Bar and head to Copacabana Bar where a couple of chicas were out in front that I'd never seen before. I approach them and ask them if they'd like to go to the beach! Well, they were off with me like a dress on prom night! My car was parked down by Fan Restaurant, and just like that I had two fairly hot Colombians walking with me to the rental car. No questions asked!

One is Luanda. Tall, volleyball player build. The other was short. Perky tits and an ass you could bounce quarters off of! So we get in my car, and first thing I say to myself is we need beer to kick this party off! I head to the supermarket I'd been going to, only to find it closed. Then went to another. Picked up a couple of six packs. They wanted Chill. And off to the beach we go!

So they're both in shorts and tops and once at the beach, the chica with the ass to die for, takes off her shorts to reveal a hot pink dental floss bikini bottom. Every guy at the beach must have gotten punched by their other half. I was the king of the world! Now a couple of locals come over that they must have met before. They were cool, and one of them was actually the beachchair rental guy. They asked him for cups of ice since the only cold beer in Aruba at a store are singles and we drank those in the car to the beach. We went in the water together and killed the two six packs. Now the smaller chica who sat in the back of the car was tired and wanted to go home. No problem, I wanted the one that sit in the front seat next to me anyway. So I drop the littler one back off in San Nicolas and ask the other if she wants to get something to eat. She says yes. And I head up toward Oranjestad. I take her on a bit of a tour. Show her California lighthouse and then we stop at Bro and Beer for wings and more beer. She seemed to be enjoying herself and I was having a good time as well. I actually started to feel sorry for her, knowing that her brief trip to the civilized world would soon end, as I would drop her off in depressing San Nicolas for her to nap and exist in a small room with a bed and a closet. Sort of a living hell. I dropped her back at her gated door in San Nicolas and said I would see her later that night. I had already checked out of my apartment since I planned on doing an all night before flying out in the morning. I never saw her back out on the street again. Nor her friend. But the time at the beach will always be a memory I'll cherish from Aruba.

So there you have it. Sounds like SXM is in rebuild mode. And Aruba, well, it's probably seen better days. Next up for me is Campo, before that ends up going downhill. Bottom line, if you're thinking of going to Aruba, with the sole purpose of playing around in San Nicolas. Don't. It's not worth it.

Just arrived in Aruba, and made my first spin around the block today. Sorry to hear the disappointing report. On a side note: I counted 3 streets! LOL, but then again I was scoping the area during the day. Like you said: everything was closed. With the exception of the 3rd street which had street action. About 5 girls on one side & I think a few others further up the street (in what I think you refer to as the caged area). They were all 5's or 6's at best (I would prob need to close my eyes to get some of them up to a 6, LOL).

Any idea what time the night action kicks off & the bars open up?

[CFront]

So here's the lay of the land. You've basically got 4 streets. The first abuts the refinery and faces a big laundry company, and it's at the backside of Aruba Bank and Charlies Bar. There are two bars on this street. American Bar and Caracas Bar. Also two spots where girls might sit ala RLD Amsterdam style. The bars are closed during the day, and you've got your pick of possibly two girls. Tops!.

Just arrived in Aruba, and made my first spin around the block today. Sorry to hear the disappointing report. On a side note: I counted 3 streets! LOL, but then again I was scoping the area during the day. Like you said: everything was closed. With the exception of the 3rd street which had street action. About 5 girls on one side & I think a few others further up the street (in what I think you refer to as the caged area). They were all 5's or 6's at best (I would prob need to close my eyes to get some of them up to a 6, LOL).

Any idea what time the night action kicks off & the bars open up?

[ClubTed]

So from the pricing perspective. I opted to change money into florins for ease of conversion. Any amount under 100 florins has no commission so I changed 50 bucks or euros and got back around 90 plus florins. Exchange rate was about 1.77 florin to the dollar, vs. 1.75 which is what gas stations and everyone else will give you. Anyway. 50 florin was the basic chica rate. But the upsell happens from there. Let me tell you the two scenarios.

Day. Anytime from 5 am On. There are a few girls either roaming the desolate back streets or sitting behind their gates. Not many, and not many of those you'd be interested in. This is the 50 florin deal.

Night. A bit more involved. And also, almost another lineup that surfaces out of nowhere. Met a few on the street my first night and never saw them again. Not sure what's up with that. Anyway, bar girls will meet you outside the entrance. Want you to buy them drinks inside, then you have to pay the bar either 12 or 15 florin or dollars, then the payment to the girl. In other words. It was sort of a hassle to understand and negotiate, so I stuck with daytime offerings. Plus, the drive back to my place in Seroe Colorado was a challenge in the dark. The nighttime experience was a hard sell, due to the fact that there was virtually nobody around and the chicas were desperate. Most of the action was guys in cars driving the back streets playing voyeur.

So being disappointed with the lay of the land and the chicas that presented themselves, and also, having my Plan 'be', basically implode on me. It was pretty much a sucky Aruba visit, with one exception. My off the cuff comment to two chicas in front of a bar on Sunday afternoon that turned into a Hallmark moment! Details to follow.

[ClubTed]

Very disappointing in comparison to Carolina's in SXM. First the numbers are so low. Don't get me wrong. There are so doable girls in San Nicolas. But some that you see at night never resurface for days. Not sure what that's all about. So I came to the conclusion that there are two types of working girls in SN. First, those that reside adjacent to the bar that they work at. And secondly, those that freelance on the backstreets in rooms that look right out of an old issue of an African article from National Geographic. The nighttime (bar) chicas are ghosts during the day. The chicas on the far back streets are more consistently present. One chica told me it was 110 florin a day to rent the room, which is 60 plus bucks a day, that includes everything. To put it in perspective. My place in Seroe Colorado was 49 bucks a day, all inclusive. So on to the chicas.

Not being one sided, but my Colombians friend. My plan 'be', was by far the hottest chica in town. And she knew it. Which compromised my time with her. In other words. Every minute with her had a cost. She was the queen bee. Was with her once. Then asked about staying with her one night, since it was so slow. She wanted 200 dollars for me to knock on her door at 2 am and then shove off by 6 am sorry, wasn't going to happen.

Anyway, aside from one session with her, which was mediocre, I met with 5 other chicas. And one was a two fer. Ages were 22,27, 34, and unknown for the last 2. While the queen bee is 32. All the women I was with were attractive by my standards, and there weren't any gorditas wandering around by any means. And nobody was pushing / selling drugs. Again, just a ghost town, serial atmosphere.

My repeat chica was a 34 yo Colombians, nice body, fairly cute. Maybe a 6 or a 7. Another one that smelled fantastic which was worth the visit was in the same age range. Fairly feisty, multiple positions, and good overall attitude.

So three down, {quasi girlfriend, and 2 milfs.) three to go. To report on. And oh, for you finance minded mongers. I'll tell you the price structure in the next report.