Sosua Reports

[JamesBlack007]

Evening two we decide to have a late start and head to Classico after 11. Before going to Classico our driver suggests Pica Flor.

When we arrive it seems super sketchy. Dirt road that looks like it leads to a mass grave ready for all 9 of our bodies haha.

Two of our guys scout the locations by making a quick pass to the rest room. I decided to make a quick lap as well. The vibe was a surprise and a bit off putting at first. Really subdued, quiet, slow Spanish music playing. We all had Classico in mind so this was on a different end of the spectrum. As I made my quick lap around I felt that it was actually a decent set a chicas even after 11 pm.

We go back outside on the road and chat it up with the guys. The first two who scouted didn't feel it at all. I said it was alright. Our group really wanted to go back to Classico from the night before. Truthfully I did too. Not sure if it was the owner who told us but they said Classico was going to close at 12 due to the easter holiday weekend. We didn't believe him for we felt he just wanted us to stay. We decided to go to Classico and the "boss" said we could come back.

We end up getting to the Classico area around 11:50 and there are lots of people outside and it looks like they got people inside. As we roll up the front door guy says we have 5 minutes til they close. Damn Boss Pica Flor was right. We stick around for 5 minutes hoping to catch eyes with a choice chica standing around but it didn't happen. Off to Pica Flor.

We all walk inside and stand around the bar. Other than us 9 there were 3 local dudes sitting next to the door. More on that later. Pica Flor had around 20 chicas which all came out to shake our hands and offer a friendly "hola" and a smile. Right off the bat I see my choice and begin to make moves. As we chat she's all smiles and giggles. Very cute and wholesome face. Almost shy. Over all package in the girl next door category she's a solid 9/10. Told her I'd like her company and she broke down the pricing. 150 usd all night and 100 usd for 4 hours.

Decided to go for 4 hours since I'm not into long time without feeling out chica. I ask do I pay her or someone else? Turns out I have to pay the "manager". This is my first time ever having to pay a "manager" so I was a bit nervous. I kept it really professional and respectful during the convo. He broke down the prices again "100 usd for 4 hours, 150 usd for all night" before he could finish his "all night" statement I replied with "4 hours" he continued to say "I'll cut you a deal at 130 all night. " I explained that I feel uncomfortable sleeping next to chicas. He understood and I paid my 100 usd.

After my deal was done the rest of the guys were able to choose a chica as well. During this time my chica who I already paid for sat next to previously said locals. Didn't bother me much since I paid and she's definitely coming back with me.

As we were ready to the villa the locals that were to my back and my chosen chica to the front of me seemed to have a conversation that may have pertained about me. I don't know much Spanish but I can piece things together. Felt a bad vibe but I figured it may be jealousy. I wasn't worried.

When we get to the villa the other 8 guys start to drink and party with their chicas and since I don't really drink and party me and mine just chill for a bit. After 30 minutes me and my chica were not clicking. She wasn't having fun and I wasn't having fun. She's didn't like the party scene. I thought it over whether to just eat the 100 usd and send her home or just take her back to my place and get what I paid for.

Decided to take her back, maybe she'll open up more once we are alone in a more chill environment.

When we get back to my room she's gets undressed and seems really nervous. Body was damn near flawless. But her attitude wasn't there. I already knew I wasn't going to press getting full service if she wasn't into it.

Back to her being nervous, she's actually pacing back and forth and looks like she's going to have a panic attack. She hits the bathroom and sounds like she's dry heaving / vomiting. I have this weird feeling she's faking it because it sounds FAKE. She come back to the room and explains maybe its the redbull we had drank that was making her feel weird. I just motioned her over and said "its OK, we don't have to do anything. ".

She sits on the bed and starts to examine my dick. And give me the nod like "OK" so I shower and it's time to get down. She's gets on top and pussy was top notch and her riding skills were masterful. I tried to go up for some titty action but she didn't allow it. I'm kinda confused but o well. I try to get her off of me so I can fuck her but she stays put. I just allow her to do her thing.

After all said and done she rolls over and she's under the covers. I ask her what time she'll be leaving. She replied with "soon". Turns out that soon was going to be in the morning. Now I have this chica who really doesn't want anything to do with me laying "asleep" in my bed.

I stay in bed on my cell phone for a bit hoping she's just waiting for her ride. I eventually fall asleep and she's still there in the morning. I roll over and give her a small hug to test the waters but she's still hating. This is around 7 am. I decide to just pack my things and leave for the villa. As I was packing she asks for tip / taxi money. I replied "I'm not going to do that" as I walk out the door with her still naked in my bed she's like "hey you can't leave" I just keep walking. I figured she's not stupid enough to destroy the room out of spite. Especially since I didn't do anything wrong.

Lessons learned from this encounter. Turns out you can send your Pica Flor chica back if she's not working out. I wish I knew this because mine would have been sent back in 10 minutes after getting back to the villa. I'm sure there is a lesson to be had about getting a chica out your room when she doesn't want to leave. I think it's having the "managers" number and knowing your options. It's a buyers market at Pica Flor and they'll take care of you when needed.

When I get back to the villa I tell my story to the group and they were all shocked she acted that way. They all felt she was going to be the best one out the group. We came to the agreement that she wasn't down with the whole GFE thing. Maybe she just wanted a guy to get drunk and fuck. Maybe she was super new and super nervous. If the quality of the pussy is a determining factor then I'll say she's super new. Not one slice of roast beef down there haha.

Day 2 in the books, 3 day soon to come.

[Charles Pooter]

Great report, James. Keep going with it. Much appreciated.

I always write in Notepad first and copy and paste it here.

Or you could send it in parts.

[OldKool]

You took a lot of time and solicited all kinds of advise and like most people ignored the advise that was given. Running 8 guys back and forward is a night mare. Get a few rooms in town and share them for bedding the babes would be a good move. Classicos the upstairs club is always 200 pesos kicks off after 12 am. Before 12 it is a deert. Thursday thru Satuday night you will not be able to count the 8's and up in the club. It will be packed. Have fun but watch your backs. You guys could easily become targets.

[Quagmire1974]

Thanks for taking the time to write the first (of several?) trip reports. ISG is, unfortunately, loaded with "looky-loos" who take information from this site all day but never bother to write a trip report when they return from overseas.

Just a few thoughts on what you've written so far:

Flew into POP and made our first mistake, we exchanged some cash at the airport at 40. Xx. I read somewhere not to exchange but we did anyways. Turns out all the places we ended up going to used USD at the rate of 47. Scammed number 1.

In almost every nation around the world, the worst currency exchange rates will be found at the airport. What I usually do, through my bank in the United States, is convert $100 to the foreign currency that I will need while overseas and take a significant amount of currency in $100 bills to exchange at cambios while in the foreign country.

As we head out the airport a few of the guys with bigger bag got them escorted by the porters, obviously a tip was needed to be paid.

I never let porters or taxi drivers carry my luggage. A popular scam is for a taxi driver to take your luggage from you and then lock it in the trunk of the taxi. When you arrive at your destination, the taxi driver suddenly disagrees with the amount of the fare that you owe him. If you don't agree to pay his price, he'll hold your luggage in the trunk until you agree to do so.

A local introduces himself and says if we need anything that he is our guys. We had our guard up, I know this type of dude. Same type all over the world. Wants to be your "friend" for "tips"

Exactly. You'll encounter these "Helpy Helpertons" all over the world. Remember, if you're going to be scammed or pickpocketed, these types will almost always approach you on the street first. I give guys like that stern looks and cold shoulders.

Local guy talks to ticket lady and we pay 200 pesos each. I wonder if he got a cut of that.

No, it was all theater. He was just simply playing the part and trying to look like your negotiator while hoping for a tip from you.

[Frannie]

Flew into POP and made our first mistake, we exchanged some cash at the airport at 40. Xx. I read somewhere not to exchange but we did anyways. Turns out all the places we ended up going to used USD at the rate of 47. Scammed number 1.

The same exchange rate scams exist in airports in the US, if it is any consolation. This type of thing seems to be a problem with traveling with a large group. It will be the person with the greatest force of personality who will get his way, then others will follow, rather than the wisest and best informed. You can give away 15% of your money, and not even know it.

[Frannie]

I can take it back to early 2002 and pricing was very similar. The peso exchange then was about 17 to the dollar and the standard rate was 500ST and 1000 TLN and had been stable at that for a couple years. So about $30ST / $60 TLN. Over time the rate is sticky to round number exchange values so it holds for awhile as the understood price until it shifts to the next even number. Then as now hotter chicas ask more, chicas more desperate settle.

Exchange rates strongly reflect local cost of living. Currently 1500 is pretty old, I'd say the norm now is 2000/4000. 1500 though represents a respectable norm to offer.

When I first went to the DR in February of 2004, it was the dying days of the Hipólito Mejía government and the peso was at 50 to the dollar, and everything seemed incredibly cheap if you had dollars. His presidency had seen major inflation and instability of the peso in 2003 because of the bankruptcy of three major commercial banks in the country due to mismanagement. During his remaining time as president he took action to save the people who had deposits in the closed banks, avoiding a major crisis. At that time power cuts were also very frequent in the recently privatized electricity generating industry, and this was a cause of periodic civil unrest when people had no power for their fans and could not sleep at night. Some nightclubs were lit with candles, which cannot have done much for fire safety. The dollar exchange rate was in the 40's to the dollar when he left office in August 2004. By the winter the exchange rate was 28 to the dollar and the DR did not seem like half the bargain it had been. However since that time the exchange rate has gradually crept up towards 50 again. The exchange rate only stayed at 28 to the dollar for a short time, before heading off into the 30's.

Local produce and labor is pretty cheap, but imported foods and goods have become pretty expensive again, so if you want to get the best value in the DR, local goods and services provided by local labor or built by local labor are still a pretty good deal. The fall in the price of oil has clearly been a boon for the Dominican economy, but the price of air fares to get there seems to have gone up sharply, especially from the US, and the $145 per ticket taxes added on, plus the $10 tourist tax to add insult to injury probably does not help.

Of course fluctuations in the exchange rate do not always have an immediate effect on residents, for example your monthly rent would probably stay the same in a time of fluctuation, but the price of imported foodstuffs might change pretty rapidly. The price of oil might change quickly, but the price of taxi fares would probably stay the same for a while, so people were not always aware of the effects of currency exchange rate changes.

[Marc Anthony]

In 2002 Sousa had also recently been though a crackdown intended to shut down overt prostitution and improve the tourist image of the place. The whole north coast was hit by a major drop in tourism because of 9-11 and a drop in tourist air travel. Real Estate prices were in free fall.

Then as now outside of a few bars in Sosua and Boca Chica, the country has a player oriented culture that's completely local and isn't much changed by politics and image considerations from year to year.

I do think there's more crime in general now.

[Marc Anthony]

1000 pesos back then was $35 american. Today 1000 pesos equates to $25. The going rate today is 1500 pesos that is $31. Exchange rate is very relevant, I am shocked you do not understand that.

it was nice reading the old posts and I will be in the ground in a month

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2228-2005-Archived-Sosua-Reports

I can take it back to early 2002 and pricing was very similar. The peso exchange then was about 17 to the dollar and the standard rate was 500ST and 1000 TLN and had been stable at that for a couple years. So about $30ST / $60 TLN. Over time the rate is sticky to round number exchange values so it holds for awhile as the understood price until it shifts to the next even number. Then as now hotter chicas ask more, chicas more desperate settle.

Exchange rates strongly reflect local cost of living. Currently 1500 is pretty old, I'd say the norm now is 2000/4000. 1500 though represents a respectable norm to offer.

[SavePros321]

This is my second attempt at typing up and uploading this report. This time I'm writing a rough draft in gmail so I can just copy and paste in case there is another error with posting on the site again.

My first version was a lot more fun and eloquent. I'll do my best this time around. Sorry for all the grammatical errors.

Thanks for the report JamesBlack. Glad to see you guys self-corrected from being hustled left-and-right very quickly.

Just FYI, sometimes the system logs you out if you are typing a long report. But all you have to do is hit the Login button and your post will still be there (as long as your username and password are pre-filled in).

It usually goes like this:

-Typing a long report.

-Hit "Preview" or "Post" button.

-System says you need to log in.

-Hit "Log In" button.

And you can then preview the post, or will see your post if you hit the "post" button.

[Rodeo9112]

The exchange rate was 28 pesos and your memories do not jive with the 2004- 2005 reports. I read the reports. Guys had to lock their valuables and worry about girls flipping the scripts just like we do. Oh ya there was also police picking up girls off the streets randomly. Read the reports. They are right here. They were paying 1000 pesos for short term not all night, I have been coming for 5 years and the biggest changes have been the closing of prime spots like Passions and Rumbas. There are more hardcore girls then in the past because the stroll is tougher. In the past the mongers were older and may be more gentle. The younger guys are doing numbers and not interested in GFE. So the girls see this and are in to numbers as well. Mongers have created the enviroment we now have. If Sosua has changed it is because we have changed it.
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Sustained!

--Rodeo (Sosua Veteran since 2006).

[JamesBlack007]

This is my second attempt at typing up and uploading this report. This time I'm writing a rough draft in gmail so I can just copy and paste in case there is another error with posting on the site again.

My first version was a lot more fun and eloquent. I'll do my best this time around. Sorry for all the grammatical errors.

Here we go.

If you are into choice spirits make sure you buy at the duty free in the states. We were in Miami and bought up a bunch of liquor but since we were there for 4 days we didn't buy enough.

Flew into POP and made our first mistake, we exchanged some cash at the airport at 40. Xx. I read somewhere not to exchange but we did anyways. Turns out all the places we ended up going to used USD at the rate of 47. Scammed number 1.

As we head out the airport a few of the guys with bigger bag got them escorted by the porters, obviously a tip was needed to be paid. It turns out two of our guys had their conversion rate all off and thought 500 peso bill was about 0.40 cents. So he ended up giving him four 500 peso bills. After the rest of the group found out and explained he made a mistake I walked back to the porters with my friend so he can explain a mistake was made. The porter went to his other porter friends and got 3 of the 500 peso bills back. I shook his hand and said "I know you have to hustle but don't hustle us" doubt he understood but in the end he did get "US" for 500 pesos. Getting scammed number 2.

Airbnb host was supposed to have 2 vans for us but they never showed. Supposedly there was traffic, I truly doubt that. There was no traffic to be seen. As we were waiting for the vans to never show up we were constantly hassled by the drivers that were there. Once we realized we needed to secure our own transportation we got a quote to Sosua for 30 USD. And as soon as we were ready to go they asked exactly where we needed to go and since it was "further" it was going to be another 5 bucks per van. Felt like we were getting scammed again. But after 4 nights of taking vans back and forth from the Action to the villa I think the extra 5 was justified, but at the time this was scam number 3 haha.

On the way from the airport to the villa we see first hand the rough exterior of the Sosua in order to get to the even rougher interior haha. From the chica who was sitting mere inches from an overflowing trash bin that had to stink from the afternoon sun, to the chica with soulless eyes who stared down our van and lastly the countless sketchy looking dudes trying to peer into the van as we passed. 2 vans fulls of guys heading towards the "rich" part of town attracts unwanted attention.

We get to the villa, ocean front, right on the shore. No sand beach though, just super sharp lava rock, more on that later. I'm sure yall have seen, been or can at least imagine those big house they got out there right on the water. The place was crazy nice. Best villa I've been in. We chill for a bit and hit Bailees for dinner.

I'm no foodie by any means but I know what I like and I can appreciate technique in the food preparation. I know this restaurant isn't going for a Michelin star so all I will say is that at the time the food was clean at tourist prices. What was worth the price was the view of the street. After seeing about 10-15 chicas walk by there had to be at least 1-2 worth possibly propositioning. Looks like Sosua ha some actions for me.

After dinner we loaded up at Playero Super Market for the groceries our chef will need and snacks for in between. Great store and they take USD.

After getting back to the villa we decide to check out Classico. At first when we roll up it looks crazy sketchy. When we get inside I'm surprised with the talent in there. There had to be at least 4 worth while candidates for myself. Solid 8's 9's and even a few 10's. A local introduces himself and says if we need anything that he is our guys. We had our guard up, I know this type of dude. Same type all over the world. Wants to be your "friend" for "tips" I'm not going to hate on the mans hustle as long as he respects me when I say no.

Local dude recommended we get a bottle and table. We agreed since this what we do back home when out and about. As I watch the chicas, or should I say as they watch us. Every eye in that place was on on us, except a few exceptional chicas who were the cream of the crop. I witnessed a few gents go up to this particular chica and all would leave her after a short convo. I can only assume she was too expensive or super picky with her Gents. Finally one of the previous gents who spoke to her went back and sealed the deal. I wonder how much he paid and for how long.

After about 30 minutes of getting the bottle 5 of the 9 guys in our group have picked a chica for the night and started to head back to the villa. The four remaining including myself headed upstairs to the club. Local guy talks to ticket lady and we pay 200 pesos each. I wonder if he got a cut of that. Anyways, we get upstairs and it's almost completely empty. Maybe 5-10 chicas and more closer to the 5 number haha. We get a few steps in and turn right around.

As we stand outside Classico 2 of us pick a girl and head back. Now it's just myself and one last member of the group without a chica and we decided to go chicaless for the first night. Fine by me. As I get back to the villa the party is in full swing. Not wanting to be the 15th wheel and be in the way I grab my things and head towards my own prebooked room down the street. After a 17 hour travel day sleeping alone was nice. I was excited to wake up for day 2.

[OldKool]

1000 pesos back then was $35 american. Today 1000 pesos equates to $25. The going rate today is 1500 pesos that is $31. Exchange rate is very relevant, I am shocked you do not understand that.

it was nice reading the old posts and I will be in the ground in a month

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2228-2005-Archived-Sosua-Reports

This is half the problem right here. Guys worrying about the exchange rate. In DR 1000 pesos is 1000 pesos is 1000 pesos. It is irrelevant to what 1000 pesos equals in dollars, euro, pounds, shekels, or rubles.

[TomJackin]

Reading your posts with amusement. .

I've been to plenty of other places but will travel to the DR for the first time later this year. Looking forward to the change of scenery. I don't want to detract from your exchanges but are there not any newbies visiting Sosua these days? I would have expected that there would be at least one or two fresh trip reports interwoven into the last numerous pages of this Sosua thread? I know such things would be pointless to old DR vets like yourselves but for someone visiting for the first time. A thorough trip report from someone that has visited recently (and maybe not been to the DR more than a couple of times) would be very useful.

Anyway, just thought I'd check in here. My vacation isn't until the end of the year so will be stopping by here regularly in between times.

I was there last month. My Trip Report is post #28253.

Have fun!

[LoveItHere69]

Mr. Enternational,

The majority of women all over the world want to be "taken care of" by men (buy me stuff, show me a good time by taking me places, fix things for me). You are hinting that you want more from the girls in terms of a relationship simply by spending more and more time with them. We buy girls stuff, cook for them, and take them places to try to impress them and prove we are different (not in it for the quick bang). Some girls try it in reverse. Just meeting the girl's friends and family is a sign that you want more in the relationship. True, the DR girls could not care less whether we are American or not. Only if we have money. If we are from America and have time and money to vacation in the DR then all signs point to we have money by default. All around the world women use their bodies to attract men and men use their money to attract women. I know I am nothing special to these women and vice-versa. You think otherwise. If you are correct then why travel to all these other countries to get "normal" women. Just stay in USA. Go pick up on 20 year old there. They want nothing to do with us because American 20 year old do not need our money, already live in America, and most definitely do not want to marry any of us.

Funny example from just last month from here in USA. Two black age 35 women in a poor rural hick town (poorest county in the state) were talking. Julie teases and tells Amanda that she knows a guy who likes Amanda. Amanda asks who but Julie will not tell. Amanda asks 2 more times and then asks Julie if the guy is rich. Not if he is a nice guy, young guy, good looking guy. But a RICH guy! Older women really want money because they know what having to work for a living means and usually have kids to care for. They use the "long game" so not to spook the guy to early and run him away.

[Joe100]

Reading your posts with amusement. .

I've been to plenty of other places but will travel to the DR for the first time later this year. Looking forward to the change of scenery. I don't want to detract from your exchanges but are there not any newbies visiting Sosua these days? I would have expected that there would be at least one or two fresh trip reports interwoven into the last numerous pages of this Sosua thread? I know such things would be pointless to old DR vets like yourselves but for someone visiting for the first time. A thorough trip report from someone that has visited recently (and maybe not been to the DR more than a couple of times) would be very useful.

Anyway, just thought I'd check in here. My vacation isn't until the end of the year so will be stopping by here regularly in between times.