Havana

[Pilot3592]

Hey Talion,

Don't know how old you are, nonetheless if you are game and have some (game) try La Esencia.

I visited la Habana this past January / February and even though I didn't make it inside this place I was told it's happening at the time in la Habana by a local that I get info from when I visit.

Read my post (# 4516) for additional info on place and address.

Report back if you make it to this place.

Mondo.

If it is the same place I'm thinking of the cab driver drove us by. Big line outside. I was trying to decide the average age of the people in line. Seem like a mixed bag of 30's or younger. What is the legal drinking age for hard liquor?

[Talion]

Thanks guys, I never liked Casa de la Musica in Centro, so no loss for me. I liked the one in Miramar better. I'll try La esentia and The Deauville. La Rampa bars I already know about. I'll report back and tell you what I find.

[Mondo707]

I have been traveling to Cuba on and off for about 12 years but haven't been down there for about two years and everybody knows how quickly things can change down there. I typically end up splitting my time between picking up girls in the street, socializing over afternoon beers in the cafes and doing some of the more expensive clubs at night I will end up spending between 25-80 bucks depending on the venue and the chica, but while the streets and th cafes seem to be largely stable the club scene changes all the time. I have frequented Salon Rojo, Sofias, The place next to Zorillos, La Cecilia, El Johnny, Dos Gardenias, Casa de la Mucia, Don Cangrejo, LE Maison. Some of the places around the Jazz Cafe and even occasionally the Riviera (although I heard it's pretty dead now). I know there are some new places to see and although I can ask the taxistas when I get there I put more credence in the information I get from my brothers, so I'm hoping you guys might be able to add some of the newer places that are becoming good places to pick up. I've gone back 6 months in posts but there isn't a lot of discussion about new clubs in that time, so I'm hoping that some of you guys might be able to throw out some names and general descriptions of places I might like to see. Indoor or outdoor venues. I will be going down in 2 weeks and will report back what I find. Thanks guys!

Hey Talion,

Don't know how old you are, nonetheless if you are game and have some (game) try La Esencia.

I visited la Habana this past January / February and even though I didn't make it inside this place I was told it's happening at the time in la Habana by a local that I get info from when I visit.

Read my post (# 4516) for additional info on place and address.

Report back if you make it to this place.

Mondo.

[Mr Gogo]

The biggest loss is Casa de musica in Havana. The place was huge with a 20 piece live band. The girls were aggressive and over priced but it was still a good place to suck up Cuban culture.

The hotel down the street from casa de musica, Deauville has a disco in the basement that has girls.

Havana 61 in Havana vieja is the preppie upscale spot to eat and watch videos but no hardcore girls mostly non pro.

La Cabana in Havana vieja has music all day, is on a corner to people watch, and has good food. Within 200 feet walking toward the malecon from La Cabana is three outdoor bars that girls pass by.

La Rampa has the ghetto ass Tikoa, La grunge, St John's, and assorted bars but ask a local because the venues change nightly.

It's going to be hot when you go so everyone will be hanging on the malecon. Also in July they close a portion of the malecon for music festivals.

The key is having a local to school you on the scene, saved me a lot of time learning from them.

[Talion]

I have been traveling to Cuba on and off for about 12 years but haven't been down there for about two years and everybody knows how quickly things can change down there. I typically end up splitting my time between picking up girls in the street, socializing over afternoon beers in the cafes and doing some of the more expensive clubs at night I will end up spending between 25-80 bucks depending on the venue and the chica, but while the streets and th cafes seem to be largely stable the club scene changes all the time. I have frequented Salon Rojo, Sofias, The place next to Zorillos, La Cecilia, El Johnny, Dos Gardenias, Casa de la Mucia, Don Cangrejo, LE Maison. Some of the places around the Jazz Cafe and even occasionally the Riviera (although I heard it's pretty dead now). I know there are some new places to see and although I can ask the taxistas when I get there I put more credence in the information I get from my brothers, so I'm hoping you guys might be able to add some of the newer places that are becoming good places to pick up. I've gone back 6 months in posts but there isn't a lot of discussion about new clubs in that time, so I'm hoping that some of you guys might be able to throw out some names and general descriptions of places I might like to see. Indoor or outdoor venues. I will be going down in 2 weeks and will report back what I find. Thanks guys!

[Mr Gogo]

Just got back from Cuba on Monday. Here is my quick report.

I went with 2 buddies. When we first got there we went for a stroll near the Malecon and met a random local guy who knew English. We asked him if he knew of a bar to go to so he took us to a place called University bar. He knew of some girls and he called them out to hang out with us. We drank a little bit then we took them back to our casa in Nuevo Vadado that we airbnb which was about 10-15 minutes away. The location sucked but it was a nice area. Our security guy asked for the girls ID and 2 of them didn't have it on them so they had to leave. The guy we met called 2 other girls to come. They were all 7's to me and we had fun with them.

The next night, which was a Thursday, we went to Casa De Musica in since I've been reading that was the hot spot. We got there at 10:30, we found out that we had to buy tickets that were $15 cuc each to get in. When we got inside we saw mostly all tourists which was disappointing. Inside the show started and it was so crowded to tourist that there were people standing up so we couldn't even see the stage. We met another group of guys from the States and they said last time they came 10 years ago this was the spot. We did not see any prospects so we got inpatient and decided to go somewhere else. Outside my friend saw 3 girls and he got one of them while me and my other buddy did not want the other 2. We got home and my other buddy called the girl he had the night before and she called a friend of hers for me and it turned out to be one of the girls from the night before and she had the best natural body I've ever seen. It was a good way to end to disappointing night.

Friday night we decided to try Casa De Musica again. Outside there was a line waiting to get in and it was a bunch of tourist waiting in line. We were deciding what to do next and we met another group of Americans and we told them it sucked and they said to go to La Cecilia. We had to pay a $10 cuc door fee for each person. Inside there were tables and a stage just like Casa De Musica. In the back were working girls, about 20 of them waiting to get your attention. The other group that we met outside of Casa De Musica asked me if this was a brothel. I thought that was funny because I thought they knew what they were getting themselves into. Everyone eventually left with someone. Me and my buddies were looking for a Club to meet girls instead of these places with shows but were in no luck. Also we had to take separate cabs from the girls we had back to our place.

The next night we were planning to go to Fabrica De Arte Cubano but when we got there they said it was closed for a month due to remodeling. We stopped at a place called Rojo Salon and they were trying to charge us $35 cuc each to get in because they had a reggaeton artist performing so we ended up going to La Cecilia again. It was less girls that night then the night before and I only saw 1 girl that I liked but she was with a group of older gentlemen. One of my friends got a girl that was friends with her and she told me she was just spending her time with them, not sex. So I took her home. The bad thing about her was that she was the only one who gave me a BJ with a condom which I hated. Plus when we were banging, she was breathing heavily with some wheezing LOL.

Sunday night which was out last night we wanted to go to a bar. 2 of my friends called up previous girls that they had. We stopped by a couple of new places, saw the guys that we met at Casa De Musica and they said they went to a place called St John's the night before and on the 14th story they had a bunch of girls. Wish we knew about that place.

So ended up at a nice club called Fantasy. It was an exact place we've been looking for the whole trip. A nice club with good music and girls all around. I found me a nice quiet beauty with a nice body. We stayed there for a couple of hours and went home and had fun. On the way home we were about to take 2 taxis home but for some reason we took 1. So we had 3 guys and 3 girls in the car plus the taxi driver. About 3 minutes from the club, a police car stopped us. The girls were scared as hell. The taxi driver got out and went to talk to the officers for a few minutes and came back. The cops did not come to see who was in the car. When the taxi driver came back he said that he had to tip the 2 cops $10 each so we reimbursed him for that.

It was a fun trip. I would put this as my favorite trip I've been on. One thing about Cuban girls. They are very passionate in the bedroom. They also like to take there time. I never felt rushed and I paid ahead of time. Yes you need to know Spanish. Especially numbers. We could not find a place to exchange our money for a good rate, we had to go to those quick exchange places which gave us 87 cuc to 100 US. The girls can be had for 40-120 cuc and they stayed until the early morning hours. Well for me and my buddies they did. We are in our early 30's and decent looking so that might have played a role.

I definitely will be back in a couple of years or so. The only thing that really sucked was there was no internet. Had to look for parks that had wifi, which they sold 1 hour internet cards for 3 cuc. The food wasn't all that great but we did go to a nice place called El Balcon Restaurante & Bar. It had some delicious entrees.

Probably the next time we go, we would find a place closer to the action because we spent a lot on taxi and research more clubs that we were like Fantasy.

Thanks for the report. Next time you might want to pay the 20 dollar membership fee and PM guys you see going regularly for updates. I think you went to Casa de musical in Miramar because the one in Havana was closed when I was there last month. It's funny because you were exactly where the spots are but missed them. St John on the 14th floor is our hangout (check Grownman boom boom room in the DR section) for his Cuba reports that are recent. St John's is 500 feet from "La Grunge" , "Tikoa" and Sofias cafe which is our area. Sounds like you did okay for a newbie so you might want to go sooner than two years from now so you can build on your first experience, things change quickly in Cuba. I get 95 for new 100 bills, my casa doesn't screen guests and we pay 20-40 for girls, but you have to be a regular visitor. Again, thanks for the report.

[Sho423]

Just got back from Cuba on Monday. Here is my quick report.

I went with 2 buddies. When we first got there we went for a stroll near the Malecon and met a random local guy who knew English. We asked him if he knew of a bar to go to so he took us to a place called University bar. He knew of some girls and he called them out to hang out with us. We drank a little bit then we took them back to our casa in Nuevo Vadado that we airbnbed which was about 10-15 minutes away. The location sucked but it was a nice area. Our security guy asked for the girls ID and 2 of them didn't have it on them so they had to leave. The guy we met called 2 other girls to come. They were all 7's to me and we had fun with them.

The next night, which was a Thursday, we went to Casa De Musica in since I've been reading that was the hot spot. We got there at 10:30, we found out that we had to buy tickets that were $15 cuc each to get in. When we got inside we saw mostly all tourists which was disappointing. Inside the show started and it was so crowded to tourist that there were people standing up so we couldn't even see the stage. We met another group of guys from the States and they said last time they came 10 years ago this was the spot. We did not see any prospects so we got inpatient and decided to go somewhere else. Outside my friend saw 3 girls and he got one of them while me and my other buddy did not want the other 2. We got home and my other buddy called the girl he had the night before and she called a friend of hers for me and it turned out to be one of the girls from the night before and she had the best natural body I've ever seen. It was a good way to end to disappointing night.

Friday night we decided to try Casa De Musica again. Outside there was a line waiting to get in and it was a bunch of tourist waiting in line. We were deciding what to do next and we met another group of Americans and we told them it sucked and they said to go to La Cecilia. We had to pay a $10 cuc door fee for each person. Inside there were tables and a stage just like Casa De Musica. In the back were working girls, about 20 of them waiting to get your attention. The other group that we met outside of Casa De Musica asked me if this was a brothel. I thought that was funny because I thought they knew what they were getting themselves into. Everyone eventually left with someone. Me and my buddies were looking for a Club to meet girls instead of these places with shows but were in no luck. Also we had to take separate cabs from the girls we had back to our place.

The next night we were planning to go to Frabica De Arte Cubano but when we got there they said it was closed for a month due to remodeling. We stopped at a place called Rojo Salon and they were trying to charge us $35 cuc each to get in because they had a reggaeton artist performing so we ended up going to La Cecilia again. It was less girls that night then the night before and I only saw 1 girl that I liked but she was with a group of older gentlemen. One of my friends got a girl that was friends with her and she told me she was just spending her time with them, not sex. So I took her home. The bad thing about her was that she was the only one who gave me a BJ with a condom which I hated. Plus when we were banging, she was breathing heavily with some wheezing LOL.

Sunday night which was out last night we wanted to go to a bar. 2 of my friends called up previous girls that they had. We stopped by a couple of new places, saw the guys that we met at Casa De Musica and they said they went to a place called St Johns the night before and on the 14th story they had a bunch of girls. Wish we knew about that place.

So ended up at a nice club called Fantasy. It was an exact place we've been looking for the whole trip. A nice club with good music and girls all around. I found me a nice quiet beauty with a nice body. We stayed there for a couple of hours and went home and had fun. On the way home we were about to take 2 taxis home but for some reason we took 1. So we had 3 guys and 3 girls in the car plus the taxi driver. About 3 minutes from the club, a police car stopped us. The girls were scared as hell. The taxi driver got out and went to talk to the officers for a few minutes and came back. The cops did not come to see who was in the car. When the taxi driver came back he said that he had to tip the 2 cops $10 each so we reimbursed him for that.

It was a fun trip. I would put this as my favorite trip I've been on. One thing about Cuban girls. They are very passionate in the bedroom. They also like to take there time. I never felt rushed and I paid ahead of time. Yes you need to know Spanish. Especially numbers. We could not find a place to exchange our money for a good rate, we had to go to those quick exchange places which gave us 87 cuc to 100 US. The girls can be had for 40-120 cuc and they stayed until the early morning hours. Well for me and my buddies they did. We are in our early 30's and decent looking so that might have played a role.

I definitely will be back in a couple of years or so. The only thing that really sucked was there was no internet. Had to look for parks that had wifi, which they sold 1 hour internet cards for 3 cuc. The food wasn't all that great but we did go to a nice place called El Bacon Restaurante & Bar. It had some delicious entrees.

Probably the next time we go, we would find a place closer to the action because we spent a lot on taxi and research more clubs that we were like Fantasy.

[TxSnake]

Sounds like someone is promoting Uncle Juans newly refurbished casa in Havana especially since Cuba has not turned out to be the hot tourist destination expected.

I've been traveling to Cuba for 15 years and there is one thing Cuban women fear and that's is police attention.

These type of parties are few and far between in Cuba. There have been major crackdowns in Dom Rep, Thailand, Rio etc so don't think Cuba is going to do a 360.

Remember gentleman that you never want to draw attention to yourself when you are in Cuba.

Would standing at the bus stop in front of Universidad Central de Las Villas and propositioning chicas waiting for the bus be too attention-drawing?

[Adinga]

Sounds like someone is promoting Uncle Juans newly refurbished casa in Havana especially since Cuba has not turned out to be the hot tourist destination expected.

I've been traveling to Cuba for 15 years and there is one thing Cuban women fear and that's is police attention.

These type of parties are few and far between in Cuba. There have been major crackdowns in Dom Rep, Thailand, Rio etc so don't think Cuba is going to do a 360.

Remember gentleman that you never want to draw attention to yourself when you are in Cuba.

[Ibaski]

Man, what a story. When me and my boys was there last month, we had a party at our AirBNB casa with about 30 girls, and a cop showed up. I didn't know he was a cop until the next day, when the guys and I was going over the details from the night before, and they told me about who he was, and that he was checking all the girls ID. Didn't really seem like an issue, and everyone got their nut off until about 4 am.

WOW. That must have been some party and lots of fun.

[Chris H]

The police are in on the game but they aren't a threat to us. In all my years of going to Cuba I have never had a conversation with a cop, tourists are off limits unless you are involved in drugs. On my trip last month I'm sitting at my favorite outdoor cafe Sofias when a known tout starts a conversation in english. Suddenly two cops appear and ask for his identification, and he complies. The ten minutes they took to run his ID he was talking to me ten feet from the cops. He said he was probably going to go to jail and did I have 80 cuc to pay the cops off. I said I didn't have any deniro. They handcuffed him and he said he would be out in a week. Meanwhile my buddies who had been partying at La Grunge came and I told them what happened. I said it wasn't my problem to help him and they were disappointed. One hour later the tout was back to talking to me at the same spot without the cops. If they spent 10 minutes checking his ID then take him in, why did they release him? Probably a hustle on me to get some cash but the cops couldn't come at me.

Same as some girls can walk with you hand in hand and others hide from the cops. The girls who give the cops pussy and payoffs are allowed to work whereas the hardcore girls who don't pay are run off. I've heard of cops waiting outside of a gringos casa waiting for a girl to come out alone to take her money.

Cuban pimps are the most hands-on guys I've ever encountered and that shit turns me off. I've had pimps actually follow me and the girl from club to club and had no problem making his presence known. One time in La Calqueta club in Santiago de Cuba, I was exiting with a girl. This pimp walks up and he snaps his finger and my date ran over to him to talk for a couple minutes. When she tried to return I waved her away and back to him and went in the club to pull another girl. Cuban pimps don't have any trust in these Cuban girls.

Now in the Dominican Republic pimps got their girls in check and respect the hustle. You will never know they have a pimp as they know how to be invisible.

Man, what a story. When me and my boys was there last month, we had a party at our AirBNB casa with about 30 girls, and a cop showed up. I didn't know he was a cop until the next day, when the guys and I was going over the details from the night before, and they told me about who he was, and that he was checking all the girls ID. Didn't really seem like an issue, and everyone got their nut off until about 4 am.

[Mr Gogo]

To answer your questions. Where was my casa? You know you never tell someone exactly where your favorite fishing hole is but I was about 4 blocks north of the University. There are many choices on Airbnb and you have a choice of how much you want to spend. I think anything between the University and the Malecon would be a good safe choice.

Was I ever fearful of getting in trouble or being arrested? I thought about this while I was there and was careful not to do anything stupid or illegal. Winking at girls on the street isn't illegal by itself right? The locals joke that Havana's population is 2 million and 1 million of those people are policemen. They are everywhere and seem to have their eyes open about what goes on around them. I tried talking to several and none spoke any English. I saw several with dogs. The dogs had a wire muzzle on and I think they were used to smell weed or drugs. One evening I watched for about 15 minutes while two policemen with a dog stood by a busy bus stop. As people walked by, every so often the dog would viciously bark at someone walking by. Scared the people "big time". Police made no effort to stop this behavior of the dog so I'm not sure of the purpose of this little game. Periodically it looked like they picked some male passerby, stopped them, and checked their ID. Maybe they were profiling. One afternoon on my way to lunch I was approached by two obvious pros who asked if I was interested in having some fun. I wasn't interested in either of them, and told them so..

The police are in on the game but they aren't a threat to us. In all my years of going to Cuba I have never had a conversation with a cop, tourists are off limits unless you are involved in drugs. On my trip last month I'm sitting at my favorite outdoor cafe Sofias when a known tout starts a conversation in english. Suddenly two cops appear and ask for his identification, and he complies. The ten minutes they took to run his ID he was talking to me ten feet from the cops. He said he was probably going to go to jail and did I have 80 cuc to pay the cops off. I said I didn't have any deniro. They handcuffed him and he said he would be out in a week. Meanwhile my buddies who had been partying at La Grunge came and I told them what happened. I said it wasn't my problem to help him and they were disappointed. One hour later the tout was back to talking to me at the same spot without the cops. If they spent 10 minutes checking his ID then take him in, why did they release him? Probably a hustle on me to get some cash but the cops couldn't come at me.

Same as some girls can walk with you hand in hand and others hide from the cops. The girls who give the cops pussy and payoffs are allowed to work whereas the hardcore girls who don't pay are run off. I've heard of cops waiting outside of a gringos casa waiting for a girl to come out alone to take her money.

Cuban pimps are the most hands-on guys I've ever encountered and that shit turns me off. I've had pimps actually follow me and the girl from club to club and had no problem making his presence known. One time in La Calqueta club in Santiago de Cuba, I was exiting with a girl. This pimp walks up and he snaps his finger and my date ran over to him to talk for a couple minutes. When she tried to return I waved her away and back to him and went in the club to pull another girl. Cuban pimps don't have any trust in these Cuban girls.

Now in the Dominican Republic pimps got their girls in check and respect the hustle. You will never know they have a pimp as they know how to be invisible.

[Inky46]

I'll try again to attach the photos.

[Inky46]

To answer your questions. Where was my casa? You know you never tell someone exactly where your favorite fishing hole is but I was about 4 blocks north of the University. There are many choices on Airbnb and you have a choice of how much you want to spend. I think anything between the University and the Malecon would be a good safe choice.

Was I ever fearful of getting in trouble or being arrested? I thought about this while I was there and was careful not to do anything stupid or illegal. Winking at girls on the street isn't illegal by itself right? The locals joke that Havana's population is 2 million and 1 million of those people are policemen. They are everywhere and seem to have their eyes open about what goes on around them. I tried talking to several and none spoke any English. I saw several with dogs. The dogs had a wire muzzle on and I think they were used to smell weed or drugs. One evening I watched for about 15 minutes while two policemen with a dog stood by a busy bus stop. As people walked by, every so often the dog would viciously bark at someone walking by. Scared the people "big time". Police made no effort to stop this behavior of the dog so I'm not sure of the purpose of this little game. Periodically it looked like they picked some male passerby, stopped them, and checked their ID. Maybe they were profiling. One afternoon on my way to lunch I was approached by two obvious pros who asked if I was interested in having some fun. I wasn't interested in either of them, and told them so. Looking up I saw a cop walking briskly toward us. I said to them "police" and quickly walked away in the direction of the approaching cop. He passed me without comment and went directly to them. As I walked away I looked back and he was checking their ID's and talking to them. I didn't stick around to see what happened.

One day while on my favorite viewing perch near a busy bus stop and within 40 meters of two policemen, a guy who spoke very good English approached me and asked if I was interested in a Chica. I said maybe and within a couple minutes he brought a very nice looker over and introduced me. We got to the price negotiation and when I said 20 they both gasped with No! He said minimum 40 so I said "you got the wrong guy". Within ten minutes he again showed up with a very decent looker and the same negotiation transpired with the same outcome. I tell this story because after these two encounters the guy went and stood and talked with the two nearby policemen for at least ten minutes. Maybe they were on the take or maybe it was part of a trap to catch "nice guys like me". I'd stay away from any "pimper" as you really don't need their help and it might be a trap.

Some other interesting tidbits of info that maybe has been broadcast before but I'll tell it anyhow. Almost all the old cars operate as taxis. If you go to the curb and wiggle your fingers (like our thumb up for hitchhiking) they will stop to pick you up. You tell them where you're headed and if they are going that direction they let you get in. Many times the car is almost already full but you squeeze in. You give the driver 50 cents cuc for the ride. Standard fare all over the city. I decided this is where Uber got the idea for their company! Also the buses are very nice and they are frequent to all parts of the city. Standard fare is one peso (National) which is 4 cents. Busses are full most of the time but people are very courteous, not like in Central America or Mexico.

I have attached some photos of interest. Photo of the 58 V8 Buick taxi to the airport with the owners of my casa. We have since exchanged several emails and next trip I'm going to deal directly with them. Photo of my taxi driver rolling down the back window with a wrench. Photo of a young chica hitching a ride by a passing taxi for 50 cents. Photo of a policeman with a muzzled dog standing near a bus stop.

P.S. Since returning home I have received emails for two of the Chinas I spent time with. Very intelligently written with some emotion thrown in. I plan to go back in September for a couple weeks and get out of the city.

[El Grande]

"...I realize I enjoy the "hunt" more than the kill and this Cuba environment was perfect for my desires..."

That's so true!