Sao Paulo Reports

[Member #4732]

I agree 100% with your assessment. I would rate Scandallo and Bomboa much higher than Photo. Casarao feels a bit low end when compared with these 3 but there are a few nice girls here and it is cheaper than the other 3.

They are all high end and all expensive, but quite different in atmosphere IMO.

Scandalo is HUGE, and has an international atmosphere, negative is that it is ridiculously DARK to the point where its hard to see the girls across the room.

Photo is the most reserved atmosphere, think whiskey bar for rich guys. The customers sit at tables and the girls stand around the bar and only approach if signaled.

Bomboa is the most Brazilian atmosphere, much much brighter than the others, with lively music, and very easy to see the girls, as there is a natural circulation of girls walking around and around the central lounge. You can sit at the bar and they just keep squeezing past.

Imo, Bomboa has by far the best atmosphere, but Scandalo seems to be winning market share in a tight market.

Photo used to have a great location that was like a big mansion and had a great party atmosphere. Then they moved to their current location and changed the vibe to be more uptight and formal. Its a shame, they changed it for the worse IMO.

Casarao is very different from the above 3 and sort of in a category of its own.

BTW. Its "boate", not "boite". Boate is pronounced "bow-ahch". Good reports.

[Nordico]

They have this ridiculous (bad for us gringos) offer for posters of the local forums, 140 / hour and every fifth hour free or similar. It's been going on for months and I don't know how long. That's why there are so many guys and many of them make a reservation beforehand and the best girls are busy all the time.

After 5 sessions Enjoy Spa gives the 6th at 50 % discount. That is for everybody. It's called Plano Fidelidade. The posters of local forums pay 170, instead of 230, every 5th session is free.

[Member #4732]

Not likely. I spent 4 nights and 5 days here. It was the same thing every day. It didn't bother me as much since I am a heavy sleeper and was rarely in my room during the day. But, It would bother most people.

There are multiple hotel Slaveiros, probably Criss talk. The ones in Moema and near CGH will have plane noise, that's a fact of life in Moema. But Sexmachine is correct, its a regular thing not a fluke, the approach and descent routes are fixed, they just flip direction depending on wind.

[Pipe Layer99]

There is also a cambio inside the Ibirapuera Mall on the upper most level I believe.

There are 2 cambios inside the mall. There are little interactive information screens near the escalators that can be used to find them. Rates are not good in there. Better place right across the street from the mall on Moaci (near Outback steak house). If you change more money, you can get an even better rate than the first rate they will tell you.

[Sexmachine1]

I stopped in on Cafe Foto twice during my trip to Sampa, and I liked it enough that I definitely would check it out again. But still, I've got it ranked behind Scandallo and Bomboa, and I would say that even Casarao has a more interesting atmosphere, even if it isn't nearly as nice as Cafe Foto is.

I agree 100% with your assessment. I would rate Scandallo and Bomboa much higher than Photo. Casarao feels a bit low end when compared with these 3 but there are a few nice girls here and it is cheaper than the other 3.

[Sexmachine1]

I stayed at Hotel Slaviero 6 weeks ago and can't remember of any plane flying over the place. Very likely you got a bad day where planes had to come in from a specific direction because of wind.

Not likely. I spent 4 nights and 5 days here. It was the same thing every day. It didn't bother me as much since I am a heavy sleeper and was rarely in my room during the day. But, It would bother most people.

[Sexmachine1]

Hey man, really enjoyed your reports! Thanks for giving back. That's the way to do it! Just wanted to say that Rio gets the edge from me because I found the service there to be more in line to what I like. I found anal to be on the menu in Rio far, far more often than I did in Sao Paulo, and I had a very difficult time getting BBBJ / CIM in Sao Paulo, whereas in Rio that's pretty routine in the termas. I like a nice mix of light-skinned to tanned girls, and Rio is good for that as well. So for me, Rio wins out, and it's just a more appealing city appearance-wise to me too. One of the most beautiful in the world! Although, Sampa wins hands down when it comes to which city has the best food scene. But hey, like I've said before, why pick and choose between the one over the other? Go to both! And that's exactly what I hope to do too the next time I can get down there. Thanks for the informative reporting.

Hi Cane.

I'm glad that you liked my reports. Rio is definitely the best place in the world for anal action but I am not into it. I never even asked in Sao Paulo but at some places, receptionists told me that certain girls were completas. I agree with you that Anal is more readily available in Rio. I am surprised that you had a hard time getting BBBJ / CIM in Sao Paulo. As you can read in my reports, I only had 1 girl tried to avoid it but agreed after a few minutes of insistence. Most girls actually offered it themselves. Maybe, I got lucky a few times and was with the right girls. I also agree with you to enjoy the girls in both cities. Why settle on one?

[Gannaton48]

It was my first trip to So Paulo. Well worth it. Really enjoyed my time. Brazil certainly is one of the best places in the world for our hobby. Few notes and observations -.

1. I walked a lot during the day to massagems. Lot of them are from 2 minutes. To 15 minutes. Away from each other. I love to walk since it keeps me fit. If you don't want to walk, uber will cost you like $3 -$4 each way, which is very cheap. Always used uber during night time especially going to botes since they were far from my hotel. Uber saved me quite a bit of money. Also, uber shows the map and car you are in, in real time so you know if you are following the right route all the way. Makes you feel safe in a new city.

2. So Paulo has the feel of a big city. Lots of traffic, high rise buildings everywhere. Still, I felt very safe throughout. Not even once was I concerned for safety. Took usual precautions. Never did I feel that I was being cheated anywhere but you still have to be careful. Always ask for your bill and carefully check it.

3. I didn't need to change money since I changed a lot in Rio before coming. I changed when real was down one day last week for R3. 75 for 1 euro. I guesstimated and brought about R5000. I'm now left with only R200 which I'll take back for the next trip. So I spent about R4800 in 5 days. It doesn't include flight, hotel or uber. I spent less in Rio in the same amount of days. About R4000. But if someone is looking for a Cambio, I saw a couple on ave. Pavao, near gaviotta street, close to my hotel, while walking to ibirapuerra mall.

4. The real value is in massagems but I like bote scene a lot. Botes get more expensive but a lot of fun talking to girls, hanging out and enjoying the music. I usually did 1 massagem girl in the afternoon and 1 from the bote. It worked out perfectly for me.

5. I did not have a bad session in So Paulo. All were good to excellent. I spoke with the girls beforehand to minimize the chances of a bad session. I always try to build a little bit of chemistry first to make her feel relaxed which sometimes helps.

6. Hotel slaviero essential was good value. If it wasn't for the noise of landing airplanes overhead, I would have highly recommended it.

7. Finally, this summary wouldn't be complete without a comparison between Rio and SP. So here goes. IMHO, So Paulo was just as good as Rio if anything, may be a little better for me. Getting around in Rio is easier than SP. You can use metro in rio but in SP, I used uber. Casas in rio Centro were a bit inferior to massagems in SP in terms of facilities. Botes in So Paulo are comparable to termas in Rio for night time action. Both have their pluses and minuses. Services were very comparable by the girls in both cities. SP is a bit more expensive in both massagems and botes. I like more lighter skinned girls which were available more in SP than Rio. And, I'm more into botes So, IMHO, I give a little edge to So Paulo over Rio. Someone who's more into darker skinned girls with bigger bundas may like Rio better. But both kinds of girls were available in both cities. There is no clear winner. I love Rio as well otherwise I wouldn't have been there dozen times. I think I got it done right by splitting my days in both cities. I'll do the same thing next time. Might do an extra day in SP.

Thanks for reading guys. If anyone has any specific questions, pm me.

SexMachine1.

I stayed at Hotel Slaviero 6 weeks ago and can't remember of any plane flying over the place. Very likely you got a bad day where planes had to come in from a specific direction because of wind.

[The Cane]

Services were very comparable by the girls in both cities.

Hey man, really enjoyed your reports! Thanks for giving back. That's the way to do it! Just wanted to say that Rio gets the edge from me because I found the service there to be more in line to what I like. I found anal to be on the menu in Rio far, far more often than I did in Sao Paulo, and I had a very difficult time getting BBBJ / CIM in Sao Paulo, whereas in Rio that's pretty routine in the termas. I like a nice mix of light-skinned to tanned girls, and Rio is good for that as well. So for me, Rio wins out, and it's just a more appealing city appearance-wise to me too. One of the most beautiful in the world! Although, Sampa wins hands down when it comes to which city has the best food scene. But hey, like I've said before, why pick and choose between the one over the other? Go to both! And that's exactly what I hope to do too the next time I can get down there. Thanks for the informative reporting.

[Sexmachine1]

It was my first trip to São Paulo. Well worth it. Really enjoyed my time. Brazil certainly is one of the best places in the world for our hobby. Few notes and observations -.

1. I walked a lot during the day to massagems. Lot of them are from 2 minutes. To 15 minutes. Away from each other. I love to walk since it keeps me fit. If you don't want to walk, uber will cost you like $3 -$4 each way, which is very cheap. Always used uber during night time especially going to boîtes since they were far from my hotel. Uber saved me quite a bit of money. Also, uber shows the map and car you are in, in real time so you know if you are following the right route all the way. Makes you feel safe in a new city.

2. São Paulo has the feel of a big city. Lots of traffic, high rise buildings everywhere. Still, I felt very safe throughout. Not even once was I concerned for safety. Took usual precautions. Never did I feel that I was being cheated anywhere but you still have to be careful. Always ask for your bill and carefully check it.

3. I didn't need to change money since I changed a lot in Rio before coming. I changed when real was down one day last week for R3. 75 for 1 euro. I guesstimated and brought about R5000. I'm now left with only R200 which I'll take back for the next trip. So I spent about R4800 in 5 days. It doesn't include flight, hotel or uber. I spent less in Rio in the same amount of days. About R4000. But if someone is looking for a Cambio, I saw a couple on ave. Pavao, near gaviotta street, close to my hotel, while walking to ibirapuerra mall.

4. The real value is in massagems but I like boîte scene a lot. Boîtes get more expensive but a lot of fun talking to girls, hanging out and enjoying the music. I usually did 1 massagem girl in the afternoon and 1 from the boîte. It worked out perfectly for me.

5. I did not have a bad session in São Paulo. All were good to excellent. I spoke with the girls beforehand to minimize the chances of a bad session. I always try to build a little bit of chemistry first to make her feel relaxed which sometimes helps.

6. Hotel slaviero essential was good value. If it wasn't for the noise of landing airplanes overhead, I would have highly recommended it.

7. Finally, this summary wouldn't be complete without a comparison between Rio and SP. So here goes. IMHO, São Paulo was just as good as Rio if anything, may be a little better for me. Getting around in Rio is easier than SP. You can use metro in rio but in SP, I used uber. Casas in rio Centro were a bit inferior to massagems in SP in terms of facilities. Boîtes in São Paulo are comparable to termas in Rio for night time action. Both have their pluses and minuses. Services were very comparable by the girls in both cities. SP is a bit more expensive in both massagems and boîtes. I like more lighter skinned girls which were available more in SP than Rio. And, I'm more into boîtes So, IMHO, I give a little edge to São Paulo over Rio. Someone who's more into darker skinned girls with bigger bundas may like Rio better. But both kinds of girls were available in both cities. There is no clear winner. I love Rio as well otherwise I wouldn't have been there dozen times. I think I got it done right by splitting my days in both cities. I'll do the same thing next time. Might do an extra day in SP.

Thanks for reading guys. If anyone has any specific questions, pm me.

SexMachine1.

[Sexmachine1]

Was a bit tired when I got up for breakfast around 9. After breakfast, rested for another couple of hours. I have to check out from my hotel around 1. I want to leave for the airport by 5. That gives me my last 4 hours in SP for this trip.

Ubered to Red around 1:30. Asked for the girl from yesterday. The one I saw when I was leaving. She was there. Very friendly. Kept smiling and staring in my eyes. Took her for an hour. Pretty good session. Did everything I asked for.

The one I did yesterday was supposed to come to work at 3. So I hung around at red massagem for about half hour to repeat with her. She showed up on time and was very happy to see me again. Equally good session as yesterday. Left around 4 pm. Ubered back to my hotel to pick up my luggage.

I am now in the hotel lobby writing this. Will be on my way to the airport shortly. Sorry for the short report. Only 2 sessions at Red. No boîte. Planning to be back in September.

Hope my reports help someone. It takes a lot of precious vacation time to write these reports. Just doing my bit to give back to the forum which has helped me immensely during the last 12 years. Special thanks to the SP posters for helping me prepare for this trip. I found a lot of invaluable info on the SP thread.

Summary of this trip will follow shortly.

SexMachine1.

[The Cane]

Yep. There were a lot of girls at cafe photo. Should be close to 70 when it was at peak around midnight. But mostly older girls. I like under 25 and pretty face. Personally, I only liked 2 out of 70. On the other hand, bomboa had more younger girls. There may be a few more than 70 girls at Bomboa. Girls at bomboa were elegantly dressed. While at cafe, it was mixture of casually dressed and nicely dressed girls. Bomboa felt a bit more upscale than photo.

Yes. Cafe photo is cheaper because they don't have rooms. Girls will tell you right away because they know that they'll have to go back to your place. Which I like because you are not paying for the room on site and you are always more comfortable and in command at your own hotel room or apartment.

I stopped in on Cafe Foto twice during my trip to Sampa, and I liked it enough that I definitely would check it out again. But still, I've got it ranked behind Scandallo and Bomboa, and I would say that even Casarao has a more interesting atmosphere, even if it isn't nearly as nice as Cafe Foto is. I sessioned with a girl from Cafe Foto during my second visit to that club, but we did not go back to my room. No, instead we took a "company car" (no charge) to a nearby love hotel called the "Kinky Hotel". As I said in my field report, I started laughing when I saw the name of the place! The guy running it spoke great English and was a hoot, and the room was nice and spacious and clean. It took a little while for the water in the shower to get hot, but I had no major problems with the place. And take your own condoms if you go to Hotel Kinky (I'm assuming it's still a going concern) lest you be charged for using the condoms provided in the room.

[The Cane]

I changed enough money in Rio before coming here. But walking from my hotel to ibirapuerra mall, I saw 2 exchange places on Pavao near Gaviotta intersection. Never stopped to ask for the rate. I'll try to do that today and post the exchange rates.

There is also a cambio inside the Ibirapuera Mall on the upper most level I believe.

[Sexmachine1]

Good report, particularly, on Photo. There has not been much info on it lately. I am pleasantly surprised to hear there were more than 70 girls on a Monday night. Were there more girls at Photo than at Bomboa? As Monday is a slow night that bodes well for the normally busier nights. I have not gone there as I have a big list of regulars that I see for much less $ and incredible service. However, I am always curious about seeing new talent so I am tempted to visit Photo again soon. I am not sure what to make of the first girl saying that most of the girls there will not kiss of BBBJ. I think she was was just lying in order to make you think her service was above par or the girls at Photo. Kissing and BBBJ are considered minimum services by most GPS in Brazil and at Photo rates there should be no question. Why would anyone pay more for less service? Unless these girls are preying on the naivete of visitors and offering different levels of service to different customers, which is possible. Either way you did the right thing in rejecting her.

Overall, the net take away from your report is that Photo can actually be less expensive than Scandallo and Bomboa given that the entrance is less. There is no saida cost and you don't have to pay for a room if you can go to your own place, where the time may be extended. Of course both of them are ridiculously expensive compared to other options, but it's good to know the relative cost structure of these high end places.

So how were the girls dressed at Photo? Historically Photo girls dress in ways that conceal rather than reveal so many men have reported being disappointed when the clothing was removed.

Yep. There were a lot of girls at cafe photo. Should be close to 70 when it was at peak around midnight. But mostly older girls. I like under 25 and pretty face. Personally, I only liked 2 out of 70. On the other hand, bomboa had more younger girls. There may be a few more than 70 girls at Bomboa. Girls at bomboa were elegantly dressed. While at cafe, it was mixture of casually dressed and nicely dressed girls. Bomboa felt a bit more upscale than photo.

You are right. The way some girls were dressed at both places. It is hard to make out what they'll look like without clothes.

The girl was bullshitting me. Trying to get her mil reals. She was best looking girl at cafe photo though. Still, that was too much money.

Yes. Cafe photo is cheaper because they don't have rooms. Girls will tell you right away because they know that they'll have to go back to your place. Which I like because you are not paying for the room on site and you are always more comfortable and in command at your own hotel room or apartment.

[Sexmachine1]

Nice reports Sexmachine1, good job.

I will be waiting for Scandallo's news!

Where are the best places to change money in SP actually?

DC.

I changed enough money in Rio before coming here. But walking from my hotel to ibirapuerra mall, I saw 2 exchange places on Pavao near Gaviotta intersection. Never stopped to ask for the rate. I'll try to do that today and post the exchange rates.