Kyiv

[BobSmith1]

Why not 20+.

You have been reading these pages for a while BobSmith, you know that everything is true. What you see is what you get. No surprise at all.

Girls are proud to show to their friends, their family that they work as escort, so they put their own photos.

I forget how they all turn out and I would love to get some advice again. Who is in Kiev next month? I maybe there next month and planning for a longer stay this time.

[Volpone]

I finally got backpage working by proxy. I see a lot of beautiful girls OMG! All 10+ models. Are you going to meet the girls look like those photos Are they real or only half of them are real? These are all 10+ in San Francisco bay area standard. If I can tap on those ass, I'll be super man.

Why not 20+.

You have been reading these pages for a while BobSmith, you know that everything is true. What you see is what you get. No surprise at all.

Girls are proud to show to their friends, their family that they work as escort, so they put their own photos.

[BobSmith1]

Because back page was forced to remove adult advertisements in the USA. This includes being able to see ads in other countries. You get redirected to the US version. If you are in a different country or you use a proxy in a different country, it will work for you.

I finally got backpage working by proxy. I see a lot of beautiful girls OMG! All 10+ models. Are you going to meet the girls look like those photos Are they real or only half of them are real? These are all 10+ in San Francisco bay area standard. If I can tap on those ass, I'll be super man.

[DayBlazer]

I've got about a week off from work and am debating on where to go. I had heard some good things about Kiev, and now some not so good things. I've done Bangkok, but something about Kiev caught my eye. Money is some what of an object. I'd like to not spend more than 100/ HR ish. Any advice for this newbie would be much appreciated!

[YummyPL]

Was it just me or everyone else? Backpage only has United States sections. No Ukraine or Europe or any where else. Why is that?

Because back page was forced to remove adult advertisements in the USA. This includes being able to see ads in other countries. You get redirected to the US version. If you are in a different country or you use a proxy in a different country, it will work for you.

[Stevie69]

Pretty girl. Lucky you.

I do not think you have to convince them to have sex for money. When they ask for "a gift", everyone knows what it means. It just allows them to save face. They call is "plausible deniability" in Washington DC.

The fact that life in Ukraine is relatively expensive (if it is?) means that sex is more readily available. When there are more sellers, the price goes down. It is simple economics.

Yes, they think that "westerners" have money to burn. With your girl, was that 2500 for the whole night? If so, it was a good deal. However, you made the mistake of introducing them to more buyers, with more money. No wonder that she started to ask for more money. If the demand goes up, the price goes up. It is simple economics. Next time you go, she will ask not 2500 UAH, but rather 250 USD. That is why I keep my gems to myself.

For pure mongering is certainly better countries where developed legal sex industry like FKK Clubs or poor color countries. Where your white skin color will be your advantage.

The problem is also that Ukrainian women love money and are ready to suck the dick for money but they do not have the mentality of a prostitute and being a prostitute is not always comfortable for them. This is the main psychological problem. The majority of veterans of mongering in Thailand or Latin America are accustomed to a simple and understandable game -You do not need any game. You are just a gringo from Canada and that's why everything is clear. The Colombian babe understands that you are a,gringo, and therefore you do not need to convince her. She just understands that she need to suck your dick. If you want anal sex she will give you this. In Ukraine there is a slightly different mentality. Therefore, such cunning guys as Steve 69 and others talk about, friendship, about,help, little nice gift etc.

The second reason is that life in Ukraine is more expensive than in south color countries. The food is not very cheap and you can not walk all year round in shorts like it does in Brazil or Manila and do not pay for heating. In my native Poland, meat and milk are cheaper than in Ukraine. And the average wage is several times higher than in Ukraine-700-800 EURO in Poland and 140-170 EURO in Ukraine. Many girls in Ukraine in the province work for 120-130 euros a month. Also many girls in Ukraine have a distorted picture of the life and work of a Westerner. They are often so stupid that they think so,-Okay. This guy in America earns 4,000 dollars. So he can easily spend 2-3,000 dollars on entertainment? . They do not understand that all your 3000-4 000 USD money goes for a loan for cars, for a house, for insurance and for food, for a school for your children..

[Arkiloko]

Guys you can have best russian or romanian in Italy for that price.

In ukraine I think it's crazy expensive.

[Jojosun]

Was it just me or everyone else? Backpage only has United States sections. No Ukraine or Europe or any where else. Why is that?

I don't know if its kosher to post a link but it seems to be working for, Kiev and Minsk.

[BobSmith1]

Was it just me or everyone else? Backpage only has United States sections. No Ukraine or Europe or any where else. Why is that?

[LuisVega11]

Good report who most of all put a true light on Andrey. I suspect many report where biased by him. I already wrote what I thought about the post if the guy who spent 2000 hour for a 10.

10 in Kiev go to Dubai and earn more than me and you in year in a week. Ai know a girl who I fuck when she was pure and young. She now earn with pussy something like 150000 300000 years. Apartment and SUV bought by Arab men. Lot of watch.

Nowadays even fat girl will laugh at you for 800 gr hours. Imagine 10 who fuck for 2000?. I met a girl she told me yesterday in Instagram that men in Kiev offer her car to fuck. And she is a solid 8, model. Imagine those high end golden digger?

Personally I go to Kiev to the unspoiled young student. The only target still available in Kiev. Clearly I'ma professions of street game and at 40 still not a match for many 25-30 years.

I stopped considering the P4P long time ago, simply is not the place to go. Only money I spent is sponsor. Clearly I cheat about sponsor, but it lower the money spent on single date.

That's proper feedback, unlike some of the useless stories here.

Here's my feedback:

1. 99% of photos on websites are fake (including backpage. Com, including all agencies with their ridiculous 500 euro - 2 hours prices).

2. 99% when you talk on whtsapp and ask for "real photos", even then you get fake photos. When you tell them "I already sent 2 girls home because photos were fake" and they give you real photo, that's when you understand you will not fuck a model for 50-70 USD, you'll just get a used hooker. If she's young, she can still be doable, but for sure not very pretty and nothing close to what you saw in the photo.

3. Buddha Bar. Transaction place. Hookers at the bar, they start at 200 usd, whether you can get the price down, it depends on how you look. If you're older than 45 and not exactly a knight in shiny armour, pay the bloody 200 usd, buy her a drink first and charm her a little, so she puts some passion and proper service in. If you're younger and attractive, it's likely you can get the price down to 150 usd, or if you're really good and charming and make her like you, 100..

[LuisVega11]

If you truly want it to be easy with some very model quality girls and you don't mind spending around 200 per hour then I suggest The Globe in Zurich. I like petite brunettes so it is not that appealing to me but there is a lot of "Blond long hairs, long legs" there and many of them are truly model quality and will give you BBBJ, kissing, and sex however you want (except bare intercourse) for the basic cost. Cum in mouth for extra.

If you compare Kiev to globe Zurich you don't have understand a lot of travel for sex. If I need just sex I go out in street 2 km from my house. And those who go to Kiev for P4P have also understood few of Kiev.

Kiev is professionisti of street game, those who can fuck without money most of time,. Pay in Kiev is waste of time and money. And I suggest if you have 4 days only don't waste your time and our game coming in Kiev and throwing money to any garbage hut walking in Kreshatyk.

[YummyPL]

Howdy guys.

I am going to make my trip to Europe again at the end of September, do not know yet where I will go, but I want ask you if the Kiev is the best choice as I am looking for classic beauties. Blond long hairs, long legs, smooth facial lines. Money is not that of an issue. If Kiev is not the best choice, could you guys possibly recommend different location? I would appreciate it.

Greetings!

If you truly want it to be easy with some very model quality girls and you don't mind spending around 200 per hour then I suggest The Globe in Zurich. I like petite brunettes so it is not that appealing to me but there is a lot of "Blond long hairs, long legs" there and many of them are truly model quality and will give you BBBJ, kissing, and sex however you want (except bare intercourse) for the basic cost. Cum in mouth for extra.

[Tomek123]

For pure mongering is certainly better countries where developed legal sex industry like FKK Clubs or poor color countries. Where your white skin color will be your advantage.

The problem is also that Ukrainian women love money and are ready to suck the dick for money but they do not have the mentality of a prostitute and being a prostitute is not always comfortable for them. This is the main psychological problem. The majority of veterans of mongering in Thailand or Latin America are accustomed to a simple and understandable game -You do not need any game. You are just a gringo from Canada and that's why everything is clear. The Colombian babe understands that you are a,gringo, and therefore you do not need to convince her. She just understands that she need to suck your dick. If you want anal sex she will give you this. In Ukraine there is a slightly different mentality. Therefore, such cunning guys as Steve 69 and others talk about, friendship, about,help, little nice gift etc.

The second reason is that life in Ukraine is more expensive than in south color countries. The food is not very cheap and you can not walk all year round in shorts like it does in Brazil or Manila and do not pay for heating. In my native Poland, meat and milk are cheaper than in Ukraine. And the average wage is several times higher than in Ukraine-700-800 EURO in Poland and 140-170 EURO in Ukraine. Many girls in Ukraine in the province work for 120-130 euros a month. Also many girls in Ukraine have a distorted picture of the life and work of a Westerner. They are often so stupid that they think so,-Okay. This guy in America earns 4,000 dollars. So he can easily spend 2-3,000 dollars on entertainment? . They do not understand that all your 3000-4 000 USD money goes for a loan for cars, for a house, for insurance and for food, for a school for your children.

Many Ukrainian girls are simply divorced from western reality. They can not understand that the West is not so rich in fact as it seems to them and that even in the West 100-200 dollars is a lot of money for most western people. A vivid and convincing illustration of my words is a story with my friend Nastya-. I found her ad on the Internet about sponsoring. I was born in the USSR and speak Russian well. We had a romantic date with a tough hard finish in doggy position. The first time I confess was a bit nervous. I did not have a long time to erection because of the excitement but then I drank some,Ergos, ,like Viagra, local sildenafil Viagra, cost 30 griwnas 1 tablets 50 MG. In the bathroom. 1/2 tablets and later 25 minutes my cock be OK. I asked her to caress my balls and my dick her fingers a little. She began to caress and massage with her fingers my penis. When she saw that my cock like a huge hard stick she smiled embarrassed. It was nice of her.

But I must note she very diligently caressed my body, balls and sucked my cock. Only she lacks experience. I liked her sensitive young nipples. We worked a bit in the missionary position. But then I wanted a good hard brutal fuck.

She is very very very attractive in doggy) A beautiful landscape, better than the dawn over the Scandinavian fjords. So I quickly finished. It was a great sharp orgasm. Then an hour later I fucked her again in a doggy. Probably it was my most acute strong orgasm in 2017 and probably never I spent so much sperm. The last time I before orgasm took off the condom and poured her back and pop with sperm. She was covered with sperm almost completely. I must say that it was a hell of a hard job and after that I ate a huge pizza in a cafe. I probably lost half a liter of sperm on that day.

I paid her 2500 hryvnia as she asked. I told her about it and showed her photos to some of my Polish and Western friends. They asked me to give her contacts. Since good merchandise. 18 years old.

A slim body and long legs and nice light skin. But as soon as they started to contact her, she realized that she needed more money. And she began to demand 200 euros for a meeting in 2-3 hours. She began to ask foreigners twice more than Ukrainian men. And not even 130-150 euros, but 200 euros! It shows how much these Ukrainian beauties love money and how they are sometimes not rational. Here are her photos that she sent me before the meeting.

[DramaFree11]

Howdy guys.

I am going to make my trip to Europe again at the end of September, do not know yet where I will go, but I want ask you if the Kiev is the best choice as I am looking for classic beauties. Blond long hairs, long legs, smooth facial lines. Money is not that of an issue. If Kiev is not the best choice, could you guys possibly recommend different location? I would appreciate it.

Greetings!

Absolutely not, probably the worst choice. Moscow or any country. If you are looking for good looking girls, Kiev is the wrong place. Way over rated.

[Stero320]

Howdy guys.

I am going to make my trip to Europe again at the end of September, do not know yet where I will go, but I want ask you if the Kiev is the best choice as I am looking for classic beauties. Blond long hairs, long legs, smooth facial lines. Money is not that of an issue. If Kiev is not the best choice, could you guys possibly recommend different location? I would appreciate it.

Greetings!