General Info

[Ricky81]

Hello guys,

I will be travelling to Lindau or Ulm in Germany on a business trip, Please any one ping me with details of FKK clubs, generally I am looking for erotic fun, even independent contacts are fine, especially on weekends,

Thanks in advance.

[UltraHappy]

Well the barbarian monogamous chimps live in a belt surrounding the civilized polygamous bonobo's who practice creampie gangbangs for straight up sperm based darwinism in central parts of africa. The only barbarious thing about sex and relationships in this world is restrictive laws and cultural norms. So let people choose what form they want to practise. And let the girls choose where they want to work. However, market forces may just move us wherever the demand lies.

Someone should consider passing a law, requiring the male bonobos to wear condoms during oral sex to protect the poor female victim bonobos. Those poor female bonobos are being exploited!

[MarquisdeSade1]

Looking at the blogs of FKKs, I am not seeing any major End-of-the-World parties scheduled for the end of June yet. Even if the FKKs want to distance themselves from the new laws as much as possible, I hope they don't miss out on this huge marketing opportunity. I would be expecting some incredible blowjob orgies on June 30, maybe even blowjob contests. After all those years practising, what a shame not to honor it with a grand farewell. (Not that it has to be a real farewell, but let's celebrate it all the same. In summer, it's any excuse for a party, right?).

I'm guessing they want it to be as, an uneventful transition as possible, I seriously doubt they would ever even consider advertising a downgrade in their already inferior service levels!

[Pistons]

and I am less than thrilled about them spreading throughout Europe like the Barbarian tribes of old days, offering 50 euros for a half hour BBBJ session with independents or at small brothels, and requesting that the provider fix them a free sandwich after the half hour session has finished.

Well the barbarian monogamous chimps live in a belt surrounding the civilized polygamous bonobo's who practice creampie gangbangs for straight up sperm based darwinism in central parts of africa. The only barbarious thing about sex and relationships in this world is restrictive laws and cultural norms. So let people choose what form they want to practise. And let the girls choose where they want to work. However, market forces may just move us wherever the demand lies.

[Optimist]

Pistons. Agreed 100%.

[Pistons]

Good choices for starters Optimist. But if you give him everything with a teaspoon, he may fail to find gems at other clubs too. Better just to sample 15 clubs and 50 girls in my opinnion 😉 And in case he is more looking for optics, your list of clubs may just not hold up. It seems like more a service oriented list. And some might want both. After 49 sessions, you may just want a looker that gets your fluids running by optics too. After all, visuals are one of the senses too.

[Optimist]

AlexKrom. I'm afraid you ask the impossible as it depends on your preferences and your timings.

Remember girls are naked only in Hessen.

I would suggest that if you want to sample a range of clubs you try, not in any order.

1. World or Finca: generally good service. World has amongst the best facilities.

2. Sharks for size of lineup. Be prepared for sharky behaviour and poor management attitude. Gets very busy at weekends.

3. Living Room for a more intimate facility and good management attitude.

4. Samya at night for the party atmosphere.

Others will suggest different of course so this is just something to get you started with ideas.

Remember, in the end it's about which girls you meet. Your super girl could be in any club.

And also that lineup size rises and falls according to day of he week.

There is no place where rankings are set out. Given that there are thousands of girls even if you read all the forums, English and German, you will be unable to use the info in practice. If you pick out a few stars from forums the chances are those girls will be busy!

Cheers

[Sirioja]

Hi guys,

I need some help please.

I am new to this scene and I am thinking about visiting one of the FKK clubs next week. Since I started reading the posts I noticed that there is a ton of options with a lot of variety that is confusing for someone who wants to decide which club to go for the first time.

I would really appreciate it if you guys could point me in the right direction or send me useful information / reviews / links, etc. In order to find the best option what should I do? Read all the threads and try to extract the useful parts or there is a place that I can find summarized information / ratings / reviews?

Let me know what your suggestions are for a first time visit. If you could throw in your own ranking based on your experience it would be great (based on facilities, size, line up, price, etc.).

Regards.

Around Dusseldorf, if you are not dark skin and have a car, Golden Time Bruggen or Living Room Kaarst.

Around Frankfurt, Finca Erotica Dierdorf between Frankfurt and Koln, or Sharks 30 kms south, in Darmstadt.

Speak with girls before going to room. Rate for sex is 50/30 mn. Ask about what you like.

Entry includes free foods and drinks.

[ExpatLover]

He was probably just joking, but I think Pistons or someone said the three or four of us guys discussing Spain versus the FKKs in a Spanish ISG forum were probably pimps. I know you guys banter around a lot, and not all comments should be taken seriously. And there was another comment by someone stating that they feel most reviews for non-FKK venues are written by the girls or by pimps. I disagree with that and think the FKK guys should venture into some of the other forums to see what is out there. You can usually spot fake reviews because they are written by someone only doing reviews of only one place with a few random general comments in various forums to get post counts up. And the reviews are usually written the way English is taught to good students in the subcontinent of India, with an introductory paragraph starting with something like Hello Friends and a detailed explanation of why they were in the city, rather than how a John would begin a conversation with other johns.

I was just conveying that the new law will probably not be a real issue. It is good that no separate tracking exists for specific upcharges by service. And unlike the Nevada legal brothels where the culture was CBJs during that pre-Internet period of time in the 1980's where people mistakenly believed that oral sex was a significant HIV transmission risk, the current FKK culture seems to be oriented to BBBJs. It is difficult to get a group of ladies, even at a place like Kamilla Dee's (I forget the exact name) who usually do CBJs to switch to BBBJs, but you rarely see ladies who start out doing BBBJs switch to CBJs. Especially when more money is available for BBBJs and plenty of BBBJ alternatives exist for independents and agency ladies in Germany and throughout southern Europe..

I don't believe the service will be the same, sex without condom will be far more difficult to find but not impossible. Big clubs will be very careful to follow strictly the new law by firing all the girls or mongers who are not respecting it.

[Polyamorist]

Looking at the blogs of FKKs, I am not seeing any major End-of-the-World parties scheduled for the end of June yet. Even if the FKKs want to distance themselves from the new laws as much as possible, I hope they don't miss out on this huge marketing opportunity. I would be expecting some incredible blowjob orgies on June 30, maybe even blowjob contests. After all those years practising, what a shame not to honor it with a grand farewell. (Not that it has to be a real farewell, but let's celebrate it all the same. In summer, it's any excuse for a party, right?).

[Sirioja]

Mongerer, nice reply, well put.

Reinforcing your point, a US member recently gave me graphic descriptions of how sex is sold in those many parts of the USA it is illegal

Yes, some of us do read the German language forums "to see what is out there". Your posts on Spain make me wish I could try it, as does a youtube video on streetwalkers in La Jonquera: the girls looked hotter than 98% of those in FKK

Yes, I think it is Kamilla Dee: it used to be bbbj.

As most of the FKK customers are German I think you'll be safe, even if some of the FKK foreign visitors switch to neighbouring countries
Cheers.

First club in la Jonquera is fuck factory Paradise with sometimes nearly 200 girls. Gran Madams which was great and Lady Dallas which was number 1 10 years ago, are dying. Even at Vip Paradise for 250/ h or Moonight Figueres, services level and beauty level are below girls I meet at LR, or GT, or even some at Aca.

Rate at Paradise is 60/30 mn, DFK and BBBJ are not really standard, more suck and fucks. Not my level, only Ampuriabrava or Rosas beaches worth, but I prefer climbing both sides of Tourmalet.

[AlexKrom]

Hi guys,

I need some help please.

I am new to this scene and I am thinking about visiting one of the FKK clubs next week. Since I started reading the posts I noticed that there is a ton of options with a lot of variety that is confusing for someone who wants to decide which club to go for the first time.

I would really appreciate it if you guys could point me in the right direction or send me useful information / reviews / links, etc. In order to find the best option what should I do? Read all the threads and try to extract the useful parts or there is a place that I can find summarized information / ratings / reviews?

Let me know what your suggestions are for a first time visit. If you could throw in your own ranking based on your experience it would be great (based on facilities, size, line up, price, etc.).

Regards.

[Optimist]

https://youtu.be/4gSD1XU_UyQ

Had to put link here as forum can't cope with links in an edited report.

[Optimist]

Mongerer, nice reply, well put.

Reinforcing your point, a US member recently gave me graphic descriptions of how sex is sold in those many parts of the USA where it is illegal

Yes, some of us do read the German language forums "to see what is out there". Your posts on Spain make me wish I could try it, as does a youtube video on streetwalkers in La Jonquera: the girls looked hotter than 98% of those in FKK ("was furs auge in la jonquera")

Yes, I think it is Kamilla Dee: it used to be bbbj.

As most of the FKK customers are German I think you'll be safe, even if some of the FKK foreign visitors switch to neighbouring countries
Cheers.

[Mongerer88]

Mongerer. Interesting points. I think you make just one error: FKK clubs in Germany do not keep a record of the charges a girl makes. The girls are legally self employed and their income is their own business. Clubs which do anything to infringe this principle risk severe attention by the authorities.

There are many reasons why many of us in this thread go only or mainly to Germany. It is not always due to lack of enterprise.

By the way, you say an amazing number of guys think that you are a pimp because you do reviews. I don't think I recall a host of accusations against you in the FKK threads.

He was probably just joking, but I think Pistons or someone said the three or four of us guys discussing Spain versus the FKKs in a Spanish ISG forum were probably pimps. I know you guys banter around a lot, and not all comments should be taken seriously. And there was another comment by someone stating that they feel most reviews for non-FKK venues are written by the girls or by pimps. I disagree with that and think the FKK guys should venture into some of the other forums to see what is out there. You can usually spot fake reviews because they are written by someone only doing reviews of only one place with a few random general comments in various forums to get post counts up. And the reviews are usually written the way English is taught to good students in the subcontinent of India, with an introductory paragraph starting with something like Hello Friends and a detailed explanation of why they were in the city, rather than how a John would begin a conversation with other johns.

I was just conveying that the new law will probably not be a real issue. It is good that no separate tracking exists for specific upcharges by service. And unlike the Nevada legal brothels where the culture was CBJs during that pre-Internet period of time in the 1980's where people mistakenly believed that oral sex was a significant HIV transmission risk, the current FKK culture seems to be oriented to BBBJs. It is difficult to get a group of ladies, even at a place like Kamilla Dee's (I forget the exact name) who usually do CBJs to switch to BBBJs, but you rarely see ladies who start out doing BBBJs switch to CBJs. Especially when more money is available for BBBJs and plenty of BBBJ alternatives exist for independents and agency ladies in Germany and throughout southern Europe.

Laws just don't mean that much, especially when the "illegal" transaction takes place in private. I suspect the services will be the same at FKKs but the prices will effectively go up a bit and the sharing of information will be more discrete. That is how if works throughout the rest of the world, even in countries where just about everything related to sex is illegal. I hope so. I realize a lot of guys like FKKs, and I also know the services most guys want, including BBBJs us widely available in nearby countries. The FKK guys like to eat food provided by the FKKs after sex, and I am less than thrilled about them spreading throughout Europe like the Barbarian tribes of old days, offering 50 euros for a half hour BBBJ session with independents or at small brothels, and requesting that the provider fix them a free sandwich after the half hour session has finished.