Pattaya Reports

[CherchezFemme]

Dude, I'm sorry but you are completely out to lunch. Comparing a Ukrain P4 P to the Thai P4 P? Posting in the wrong country forum just because the Ukraine one is slow. Post again after you come to Thailand.

Just spent 4 months in Thailand. Good times. Only did p4p twice. Then picked up a girlfriend.
But I'm looking for advice from seasoned mongers and the Thai forums are the biggest.
I'll post in Ukraine too.

[David 2]

But I don't want to keep spoiling her for the next monger.

It's not a question of money.

Another deluded monger trying to convince himself that it's the principle, not the money. And trying to convince others that he's being cheap for the sake of the rest of us.

55555.

[Member #4591]

This is not in Thailand, it's in Ukraine. Sorry for confusion. I wrote here bc Ukraine forums are slow and besides it's a universal question.

Dude, I'm sorry but you are completely out to lunch. Comparing a Ukrain P4 P to the Thai P4 P? Posting in the wrong country forum just because the Ukraine one is slow. Post again after you come to Thailand.

[Banana Boi]

This is not in Thailand, it's in Ukraine. Sorry for confusion. I wrote here bc Ukraine forums are slow and besides it's a universal question.

It's not a universal question at all. Cultures are very different around the world in regard to tipping. Tipping IS NOT expected in Thailand. No idea about Ukraine.

[CherchezFemme]

Could you please be more specific? Is she a go go girl, massage girl, freelancer or what? What was her asking price and what did you give her total including the tip?

She works in an apartment with other girls, you walk in and choose who you want. So not a freelancer (and I have tried to get her to meet me at my place but she hasn't responded to that).

Cost is $ 28 US per hour (1 pop). So she probably makes $ 14- 17 per hour. I gave her $26 tip first time (slightly less than what she wanted).

Second time I gave her $ 24 tip bc I knew first tip was too much. She didn't say anything but I don't know if she counted it before or after.

Hopefully will see her in 3 days.

This is not in Thailand, it's in Ukraine. Sorry for confusion. I wrote here bc Ukraine forums are slow and besides it's a universal question.

[Member #4591]

Guys, I have a delicate question. Even though I'm experienced I'm not sure what to do. First time I saw a new provider, Anna, I gave her a way too generous tip. I gave it to her ahead of time bc I was negotiating BBBJ. I had a brain fart and basically gave her what the house charged me. I don't know why, I just did. Assuming house takes 40-50% with me she prob earned 3 x what she made with a regular non-tipping monger.

Ok I made a mistake, big deal.

But, the service was FANTASTIC, top 3 provider. So I went back again for a second time and left her slightly smaller tip. But even then, my tip was prob too much. Service was fantastic again, including anal which I had not negotiated or even discussed beforehand.

I want to see her 4-5 more times before I leave. But I don't want to keep spoiling her for the next monger. Should I give her even smaller, more reasonable tip or, since service is fantastic, just let it be?

Maybe I'm overthinking. It's not a question of money, it's just I know how many times on this board we complain about mongers who leave huge tips and then that becomes the norm for the girl.

Could you please be more specific? Is she a go go girl, massage girl, freelancer or what? What was her asking price and what did you give her total including the tip?

[CherchezFemme]

Guys, I have a delicate question. Even though I'm experienced I'm not sure what to do. First time I saw a new provider, Anna, I gave her a way too generous tip. I gave it to her ahead of time bc I was negotiating BBBJ. I had a brain fart and basically gave her what the house charged me. I don't know why, I just did. Assuming house takes 40-50% with me she prob earned 3 x what she made with a regular non-tipping monger.

Ok I made a mistake, big deal.

But, the service was FANTASTIC, top 3 provider. So I went back again for a second time and left her slightly smaller tip. But even then, my tip was prob too much. Service was fantastic again, including anal which I had not negotiated or even discussed beforehand.

I want to see her 4-5 more times before I leave. But I don't want to keep spoiling her for the next monger. Should I give her even smaller, more reasonable tip or, since service is fantastic, just let it be?

Maybe I'm overthinking. It's not a question of money, it's just I know how many times on this board we complain about mongers who leave huge tips and then that becomes the norm for the girl.

[Member #4530]

LOS offers tremendous value. I did an analysis of my visit last November and found that I had 27 FS encounters with 22 different ladies over 11 days for a total spent of $1,175 US. (Includes fines and fees, but no LDs or food.) These were not fat and ugly BR FL girls. There were a couple of BR FL girls, but they were the better-looking ones. Quite pretty, slender, gave good service and would look hot in a bikini on the beach. This was a super hottie from Soi 6 - an amazing value at just 1,300 TB. She would draw 3000 TB plus BF for ST on WS. The others on Soi 6 were at least attractive and all slender with a few providing GFE. On Soi 6, 90% are fat and ugly, with 98% being fat OR ugly, so you have to find that upper 2%.

IMHO the pickings are better are Beach Rd than on Soi 6. Better attitudes, prices and service.

[Uncle Volodya]

Ah! This club used to be in Bangkok on Sukhumvit Soi 12. It closed down after a year. The concept was the bar with sofas and 2 pool tables. The sofas were set up in a way where curtains could be closed around them and the girls could dance and be a little naughty. There were short time rooms above the bar and the BF was 500 Baht plus an agreed upon fee for services from the girl. 2000ST I believe it was. It would close at around 9 PM if I recall so it was truly for the daytime. The concept didn't last in BKK because there was just not a consistent flow of customers. I suspect Pattaya will offer that potential. It is run by foreigners and in my mind, this club will be a target for law emforcemt due to the same concept at Soi 6. Regardless, enjoy it well it lasts. It will be more expensive than Soi 6 so be prepared to pay more than 1000 for a shag.

I dropped by to check it out once. The club was really nice with a shark tank with a small shark above the main bar. Very cool.

The business model was to let gogo girls ply their trade before their shifts at Nana or Cowboy. But I think they may have had trouble getting girls because the selection was only meh when I was there.

I had a few drinks with a girl and a bit of fondling and kissing but did not take her to a room s she didn't' really do it for me and I had another girl coming to my condo in a few hours anyway.

[Mr Enternational]

It is run by foreigners and in my mind, this club will be a target for law emforcemt due to the same concept at Soi 6. Regardless, enjoy it well it lasts. It will be more expensive than Soi 6 so be prepared to pay more than 1000 for a shag.

The girl that I had a drink with when I was there said 1000 for a shag. Actually it is more the concept of all the other gentlemen clubs: 007, Carre Blanc, etc and not Soi 6. I don't want to include Kinnaree and the other Pratumnak places because those are much bigger seeing they are in actual houses. There is a doorman/security guy. You walk in and there is a big ass bar in front of you. There are sofas to the left, a pool table to the right, tables to the other side of the bar, big screen tvs that I think had sports on, and a place for the dj (the owner was playing music from his laptop there). There are red lights throughout. The rooms are upstairs.

[Member #4591]

An option for those with nothing to do in the afternoon is the newest G-club, The Den, on Soi Chaiyapoon (aka Soi 25) and 3rd Road. Opens at 1 pm.

I really like the girl on the left in the red in pic 2 and the one in the black and white squared dress 4th from the right in the back row in pic 1.

Ah! This club used to be in Bangkok on Sukhumvit Soi 12. It closed down after a year. The concept was the bar with sofas and 2 pool tables. The sofas were set up in a way where curtains could be closed around them and the girls could dance and be a little naughty. There were short time rooms above the bar and the BF was 500 Baht plus an agreed upon fee for services from the girl. 2000ST I believe it was. It would close at around 9 PM if I recall so it was truly for the daytime. The concept didn't last in BKK because there was just not a consistent flow of customers. I suspect Pattaya will offer that potential. It is run by foreigners and in my mind, this club will be a target for law emforcemt due to the same concept at Soi 6. Regardless, enjoy it well it lasts. It will be more expensive than Soi 6 so be prepared to pay more than 1000 for a shag.

[SamWise1]

An option for those with nothing to do in the afternoon is the newest G-club, The Den, on Soi Chaiyapoon (aka Soi 25) and 3rd Road. Opens at 1 pm.

I really like the girl on the left in the red in pic 2 and the one in the black and white squared dress 4th from the right in the back row in pic 1.

Never been there. I always wonder what to do in late afternoon. What kind of place is this? A go go bar? I will try in my next visit.

[FL Hawk]

I planned my Pattaya trip because I heard it's where I can get sex-crazed hotties at a fraction of cost back at home. Reading many blogs describing where these 18 years old model-quality girls would throw themselves at you (a bit of exaggerations here. May be for Brad Pitt-like Farangs) and let you fuck you in all holes kinda set me up for a wrong expectations.

LOS offers tremendous value. I did an analysis of my visit last November and found that I had 27 FS encounters with 22 different ladies over 11 days for a total spent of $1,175 US. (Includes fines and fees, but no LDs or food.) These were not fat and ugly BR FL girls. There were a couple of BR FL girls, but they were the better-looking ones. Quite pretty, slender, gave good service and would look hot in a bikini on the beach. This was a super hottie from Soi 6 - an amazing value at just 1,300 TB. She would draw 3000 TB plus BF for ST on WS. The others on Soi 6 were at least attractive and all slender with a few providing GFE. On Soi 6, 90% are fat and ugly, with 98% being fat OR ugly, so you have to find that upper 2%.

The Soi 6 crackdown is disappointing, but I am not yet ready to give up on Thailand or of Pattaya.

I guess I need to do a similar analysis of my visit last April / May. I will try to get that out within a few days.

[FL Hawk]

An option for those with nothing to do in the afternoon is the newest G-club, The Den, on Soi Chaiyapoon (aka Soi 25) and 3rd Road. Opens at 1 pm.

I really like the girl on the left in the red in pic 2 and the one in the black and white squared dress 4th from the right in the back row in pic 1.

We share similar tastes, my friend. The second girl from the left in the second picture is also pretty hot too.

[FL Hawk]

The soapies (Sabai Dee, Sabai Resort, Honey 2, and Rasputin) are all around your hotel. They start to get busy after 5 pm and prime time is around 7 pm. DO NOT expect BBBJ and DFK from any of these girls without either a bit of coercing, charm, or extra cash.

I do a soapie every other trip it seems. The fantasy of a pretty girl sliding up and down on me, like they do in the JAV movies, is strong. But the reality is different. Sigh.

Out of three visits, I did get a BBBJ once, and that was after a CBJ and CFS where I could not release, and so she took pity on me and offered a BBBJ. No begging on my part, I just said I have a hard time releasing with a condom (quite true), so she removed the condom and went down on me. Many of the girls are quite mechanical and really don't care, but this one was nice and caring and wanted me to leave happy. So it can happen without paying more or begging and pleading! Hmmm, maybe it was because I was charming!