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07-13-17 20:52 #5479
Posts: 21Originally Posted by Thayerst [View Original Post]
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07-13-17 13:34 #5478
Posts: 32Panama Trip
Originally Posted by YippieKayay [View Original Post]
So can I also assume that the fancy escort agencies are a little bit creative in that while some of the girls they have listed on there may work for them or work for them in the past, they're probably not available? Is it exactly the same as in Cartagena and Bogota where you'll go on the website and be told the girl you wanted isn't available and then they send through a bunch of pictures of girls who are nowhere near the quality of those on the site? I know you guys don't use the escort agencies but does this seem accurate? They're putting up fake photos to lure you in to using their services?
Also, does it generally work as such for the girls in that they will decide to come to Panama and just use every angle for bookings? So they might advertise on backpage, go to Habanaos, and also contact a few of the managers / escort agencies as well? So they might sit in Habanos and either wait for one of their managers to message or go with a Habanos patron if the price is right? Just want to be sure that I don't miss out on booking the hottest possible girls. I saw the blonde girl who is on the video on the start page on panamavipmodels site in Cartagena and was able to get her for pretty much half the price of an agency by getting her number from her friend. Is it a similar sort of deal in Panama, they're basically just freelancing and getting whatever they can?
You guys may not have any idea on this, but wanted to get a sense of how it works so that if I go for four days I don't waste them by using the wrong option and only figure it all out best by my last day. I may be over thinking everything too much, but just want to make sure I make the right decision!
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07-13-17 12:24 #5477
Posts: 1137Originally Posted by Thayerst [View Original Post]
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07-13-17 01:02 #5476
Posts: 32Originally Posted by YippieKayay [View Original Post]
I don't speak any Spanish but that didn't seem to be too much of an issue in Colombia with google translate and also some speak enough English it seems to get by. What I was meaning with spending 800-1000 a day (probably 800 max) was 200 for a hotel, 400 for the girl which would be to have her as company for good 6-8 hour blocks and have her party with me an also come to the pool of wherever, and 200 for extras such as drinks and food etc. Seems like I can lower this significantly just have to be a little more creative and go and seek the girls and negotiate. Happy to do this, it's just that my experience in Cartagena they used managers rather than hanging out at bars.
Thanks for your help.
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07-13-17 00:51 #5475
Posts: 32Originally Posted by KosherKowboy [View Original Post]
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07-13-17 00:42 #5474
Posts: 12Veneto?
Hello gentlemen,
Coming in town this Sunday last min trip with a friend. He already booked the arrangements and we're staying at the Veneto. Just curious if anyone has stayed there recently and what was the take out fee to go upstairs. How is the hotel I've been there few times but never stayed only gambled & take out. It's a shame they started charging at the Hyatt now. Will.
Be in town sun 16th & Mon. 17th. Probably not the most lively days but quick trip.
Is better than none. How much does an Uber run from airport to Veneto and is this best way. Thanks in advance for help, BB.
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07-13-17 00:04 #5473
Posts: 44Short Stay Report
Recently had a short three night stay to check out what Panama had to offer. I just made the cut off it appears prior to the recent Hyatt changes for extra guest fees.
Airport. Simple and easy with no issue. You do the finger print thing which was easy and then move along to head out. They have a large shopping area and I picked a duty free liquor store before you head down escalator / stairs to leave. I grabbed my couple bottles and headed down. I had to wait an hour to get out since the line was huge to go through the final luggage scan. Someone told me they sometimes have a line dedicated for USA Arrivals, is this true and I caught it on a bad day?
Hyatt. I got the large high floor King which was perfect. Loved having a large couch to chill and the bed separate. Standard Hyatt type rooms like in the USA.
Habanos. Basically you just take a left out the entrance of Hyatt and then another left and you're at Habanos in 5 minutes walking. It's that easy. I was there Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights. Friday it was just nuts loaded with hot girls to choose from. I got there "later" around 10 pm or so and there was no shortage of women. I just had some drinks and interviewed who I wanted. Since this was my first night to get the lay of the land I decided to walk over to Venetos around 11:00 pm or so to check it out knowing I could come back to Habanos. Well, had a bit of a problem on the walk over as I saw two policia and they stopped me asking for my passport. I totally forgot to get my stamp copied at Hyatt having just arrived and so let the shake down begin. Of course, I had a copy of the passport, but no stamp. One of them was just jerking me around for about 20 minutes total and eventually took the discreet $20 payoff to let me on my way. It was a rather annoying start to the trip and I forgot with all the high rises and developed nature of the city that tourist wouldn't be bothered, especially with no girl in my arm. But, I just went back into my spidey sense mode like I do most countries I visit and did fine rest of trip. After this, I turned abruptly around and went back to Hyatt and crashed for the night.
Habanos Saturday night. So I went to Habanos Saturday night got there around 9 pm with the intention of grabbing an early girl for a couple hours and then another girl later in the evening for a couple hours or all night. I grabbed a drink and didn't want to take too long and didn't need to. A bunch of women there and very few guys at this time. A nice looking Colombian girl came up to me who had the cutest and sweetest face and smile and was a cool chick. At least played the part well. I wanted a couple hours so no rush and negotiated $150 for two hours which is what I usually like to do. She had perfectly done fake tits combined with tight waist. Only "turn off" was the butt injection thing which I figured I'd try to see if I liked. It was proportional to her body so she looked good still, but not my thing. I like all natural booty. We had a great time over some drinks in the room, music, and two rounds of fun. She left after the couple hours and was never rushed. I figured I'd recharge and head back to Habanos.
So, I walk out of Hyatt about 45 minutes later and make way to Habanos when this cute little spinner just happen to be leaving at the same time. We are basically walking to Habanos together and chat her up. She had the exact body I love. So, within a minutes / seconds I say back to the Hyatt and she of course agrees. Negotitated same deal of $150 for two hours. She quoted $300 for all night but I wasn't ready for that especially with her just finishing up. Similar to my first round had some drinks, dance, shower, and her body exactly what wanted. Perfect fake tits and tight little spinner body with an ass with some curviness. Face was cute and just great. A solid 9-10 overall depending on how picky I want to be. She was not GFE at all, but her body made me smile all the while. I was beat after hanging with her for the time and got her number for next evening.
Sunday. I was good during the day just recouping after plenty of drinking night before. I whatsapped the spinner girl and arranged for her to come over which she did early evening since I was flying home early morning. We just hung out for a little over two hours and she was much more GFE and relaxed second time around and fun to be with. Two rounds of fun and got to enjoy just staring at her body the entire time. Ha! Was happy I ran into her.
PTY take. For me it's a short flight of a few hours and I'm there. I really don't like staying at a hotel with other families or business travelers. One girl they copied her passport, the other girl next night copied her passport and made me sign below it, then during the early evening the spinner girl I just grabbed and we went into the elevator and I ignored the front desk. Still, I prefer having a much more discreet environment or being able to just ring the girl up from my room. Habano's is great and convenient though for hot girls a short walk away. For me, I plan to come back but it in no way has motivated me to ignore other places I haven't visited. It's also definitely a bit pricier without question for the girls. I didn't venture out as it was a short trip to see how I liked it and knew I would be back. So it may continue to grow on me more.
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07-12-17 22:56 #5472
Posts: 972Originally Posted by Thayerst [View Original Post]
Use these boards to start your research. And PM me if you want or any of the guys on the ISG Spanish boards. I can feed you tons of info on Spain but have only done Panama once and just drag tail out of the Veneto or Habanos, can't beat the ease of them. That Panama has Spain beat on, walk out, grab hooker, walk home.
http://www.girlsbcn.net/escorts-barcelona/ (these are your higher end girls for outcalls).
https://www.sexomercadobcn.com/index.php (Barcelona).
https://www.esaschicas.com/forum.php . (Madrid)
https://www.slumi.com/escorts/madrid (all over Spain).
http://www.nuevoloquo.com/anuncios-eroticos/madrid/ (all over Spain).
Barcelona will cost you a tad more than Madrid. I am headed to Madrid in both Aug and Sep. If you go to Spain do both!
If you use those links I sent you will find tons of Colombians and Venozolanas in Spain. Like the one below.
This is a link to a brothel that also does outcalls. This one is 150 E plus taxi for outcall. Just to give you an idea. And she has a very tasty pussy!
http://www.devorahsuites.com/project/sabrina/
I am interested too in finding out more about the outcalls in PTY; going to be there probably 3-4 times a year now for the next two years. If you can blow 800-1000 a day that is plenty for what you need for a room in Spain plus the finest escort you can find and your meals. One wealthy retired guy I know loves this place, in your budget too.
http://cristinassecrets.com/
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07-12-17 22:24 #5471
Posts: 1137Originally Posted by Thayerst [View Original Post]
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If you speak Spanish and aren't too bad to look at they'll spend the day with you for a couple of hundred bucks. That's plenty of money. Much more than they would earn in a day usually.
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07-12-17 12:34 #5470
Posts: 32Panama Trip
Not sure if this is the right area to post, so apologies if it is. I got back from Colombia three weeks ago, mainly in Cartagena but also Bogota. Wanted to get some advice on Panama as I'm about 80% certain I'm going start of September with the other option being Spain. So my questions are basically, how does Panama City compare with Cartagena in terms of quality of girls? My thinking is that many of the better Colombians will head to Panama as they make more money, it's more discrete and it seems Panama has the added advantage of Venezuelans. I found some good girls in Cartagena, who also have seemed to pop on escort websites in Panama I've noticed. If Spain is another option where would I go? Barcelona? I don't like brothels and prefer escorts to come to my hotel room. Would Spain be considerably more expensive? I also have a big thing for girls with fake breasts which the Colombians seem to have so maybe Panama is good for me?
What is my best option in terms of girls? Using an escort service like vipinpanama or mypanamaescorts or going to Habanos? I prefer to book a girl for a few hours, have her party with me in the room, and tend to want to do this earlier. I've been quoted about 150 an hour and 500 all night by the escort agencies, is it true that the same girls are at Habanos, and therefore can cut out the middle man and get them cheaper? Just asking as it seems that some of those girls seem way too hot to be in a bar looking for clients, or are many of the photos of the girls listed on those sites extremely airbrushed or fake? I don't like to waste my money on girls and maybe have unrealistic expectations but only go for quality and don't mind paying a little extra. Of course, the best option I found in Cartagena was to just get the girl from the agency to give you her number and then she will come next day for cheaper and also bring her friends.
Also, where would be the best places to stay? Many here mention the Hyatt but I was looking at some of the prices at the Waldorf Astoria and they appeal as they're not too expensive relative to other Waldorf's around the world and have heard they are girl friendly, does anyone know? The rooms also have balconies some of them which seems a plus. Otherwise, Sortis comes recommended as girl friendly and Trump I've been told a no. One other option I thought is to maybe go for a cheaper hotel and get a suite, does anyone know of any hotels with large suites and balconies perhaps? Thinking that larger rooms are good for partying with the girl (or maybe 2 or 3 like I did in Cartagena).
I guess it seems to me that anything I can do in Cartagena, I can do in Panama but with more expensive pricing? I don't mind paying say 800-1000 a day including hotel for a good time, and let loose. Let me know if this is incorrect.
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07-11-17 06:56 #5469
Posts: 972Originally Posted by Trifecta68 [View Original Post]
You would like Spain, I got a few reviews there, feel free to PM me if you have any Spain questions.
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07-10-17 07:22 #5468
Posts: 58Negotiating on I Phone w Chicas is Sales 101
Originally Posted by KosherKowboy [View Original Post]
Great minds think alike. Your mention of Spain has got me thinking of Europe or even Cartagena for new grounds but Panama is so dialed in for me and the quality of Chicas, safety, infrastructure and dollar make it so difficult to start new somewhere else. Regarding my interview process, I am extremely picky and only go for 9 or 10's. Habanos has them. Veneto for me is the see team. Club Asche late would be my back up plan be. My exception to the rule on a 7 or 8 would be if the chica can translate and assist me with other women. This normally ends up in at least one threesome per trip. I use 4 metrics for chica selection that I have on my I Phone translated in Spanish. #1 How long have they been coming to Panama and how long on this particular Visa stay? If they have anything more than 1 year; and or 5 weeks on particular trip, unless they are a straight up Diamond, red flag for me. Too many miles. #2 if the Chica is covering her stomach with clothing and has a child or won't answer the question; I pass. #3- I request 90 minutes, (no less) No Smokers, DFK, massage and the obvious. $My going rate for a 9 or 10 is $120 or less. (The avg Colombiana back home makes less than $1000 per month if their educated). In Venezuela, DR, Peru, etc it's far less. Which reminds I dated for the first time a stunner from Peru. She was ravishing. According to her it was her second week at Habanos. #4 $60 up front. $60 at completion. No games / non negotiable. That's it! Straight forward and pre loaded on my phone. After they agree, which 90% do I'll offer a drink, flirt, fondle and always walk back to Hyatt, Bristol, Continental, etc. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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07-09-17 13:59 #5467
Posts: 972Originally Posted by Trifecta68 [View Original Post]
Good report and thanks for sharing your experience. It's always nice to get a trip in the books and start planning the next. Guess Hyatt bound visitors can save some of that $15 chica fee and recoup it by not taking a taxi and instead the bus and pocket close to 3-4 nights chica fees by taking the bus.
Habanos sounds great still and like the tip to start in the cigar bar, experienced the same myself. Sounds like you had some negotiations perhaps pre entered on the mobile device; any chance you might be able to give us some updates on the negotiations starting and ending points? I am curious if you care to share here or PM what they started at per the hour and what they settled at. Also, were the dates BBBJ or CBJ and care to eleborate if that was part of negotiations.
I agree on that ' sauna'; need to take the girl out quick or gets too hot. I find at the Veneto the AC is on, food served at the bar and plenty of chicas last time I went. It was much more comfortable; however the selection at Habano's was much more and a tad better so I guess one plan could be to sit at Habanos if it gets too hot head to the AC of the Veneto cool off check out the selection there for any gems than head back to Habanos. I didn't go to the other casinos walking distance to the Hyatt maybe there is action there??
I really appreciate the ' MY Terms' on your final line, it sounds like you were able to bargain from a position of strength rather than weakness that way and I think it is a great tip (I will share with some of my fellow Spain mongers who speak no spanish) that tactic to employ at 2-3 particular places there as I think it is a great way to present a final offer and no matter what they say shove the mobil device back in their face until they accept.
Thanks for the well written report and tips. Tips that involve food and saving money, a complaint about the heat. I like how your mind works, esp getting maximum value from the buffet. And the firmness with the girls...
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07-09-17 00:07 #5466
Posts: 504Just landed in Panama Boots on the ground
Hey,
Just landed in Panama if anybody wants updates DM me.
This is my first time, I'm going to check out the Scene, Later and give you my first impressions.
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07-08-17 21:42 #5465
Posts: 107Hyatt Place -Can you confirm the $15 fee they started from June 15th.
Originally Posted by Trifecta68 [View Original Post]