Angeles City

[SaltyPete]

Just a quick question since I'm a little confused. In Thailand, the bar fine is paid to the bar and then you must pay the fee for the lady for short time or long time. But I have been reading this forum preparing for a trip and this question is unclear here since many pay more and many don't. What is the true answer? In Angeles City, does the bar fine, your payment to the bar, include sex, or do you have to pay extra to the lady for ST or LT? I'm not talking about a tip guys, just whether the bar fine includes everything or if you need to pay the ST or LT fee to th girl later or not?

Note that AC is different than Manila (EDSA Entertainment and Burgos). In AC you pay fully at the bar (and give the girl an optional tip later) but in Manila you pay a bar fine and then you pay the girl. EDSA for example is php2000 to the bar and most girls ask for 2500-3000ST.

AC is easier on your wallet.

[Streetlooker]

Prostitution is illegal in the Philippines. So sex is not guaranteed, altough more oft than not it is included. Technically a bar fine only means that the girl can leave work. There are no separate prices for ST/LT that I have come across. The one price you are told covers all until it is time for the girl to come back to the bar the next day. Whether she will stay with you all of that time YMMV.

A Few bars have a different price for ST vs longtime, But these are mostly the BJ bars on Raymond, Santos and the few right where Garfields is on perimeter Road. All the others you must make arrangements to what you want with the girl on how much time she will be with you.

[Dg8787]

Paying the girl directly certainly makes me feel better than paying the bar directly, so I'm ok with that. I assume this can be done when she is ready to go or do you have to pay it to her at the bar and then she hands the bar their share before leaving with you?

Pay at the bar. Pay her or pay the bar. Then she will change clothes to go out with you. If you make a big deal out of it they might suspect you to be LE informer and you will be shxt out of luck. It is done discreetly. I usually pay it with my drink tab and it is done quietly.

Other poster might tell you to pay the girl later. Don't bother asking that.

Don't go screaming aloud I want to barfine you honey. Just whisper to her with your ground (bed) rules amd if she accepts then ask her how do you take care of the barfine. She will tell you and then tell the waitress or mamasan.

[Member #4591]

Sex is not quarantee as it would be against the law. You buying time to take her out, then it is up to consenting adults.

I think sex is illegal in Thailand so your analogy is correct but a little bit naive for this discussion since we all pretty much understand this point as experienced mongers.

[Member #4591]

Generally the AC barfine is inclusive of the girl. Some places may not accept the bfine direct, especially if you are a new customer, then you will pay the girl and she in turn pays the bar.

Paying the girl directly certainly makes me feel better than paying the bar directly, so I'm ok with that. I assume this can be done when she is ready to go or do you have to pay it to her at the bar and then she hands the bar their share before leaving with you?

[Dg8787]

Just a quick question since I'm a little confused. In Thailand, the bar fine is paid to the bar and then you must pay the fee for the lady for short time or long time. But I have been reading this forum preparing for a trip and this question is unclear here since many pay more and many don't. What is the true answer? In Angeles City, does the bar fine, your payment to the bar, include sex, or do you have to pay extra to the lady for ST or LT? I'm not talking about a tip guys, just whether the bar fine includes everything or if you need to pay the ST or LT fee to th girl later or not?

Generally the AC barfine is inclusive of the girl. Some places may not accept the bfine direct, especially if you are a new customer, then you will pay the girl and she in turn pays the bar. Sex is not quarantee as it would be against the law. You buying time to take her out, then it is up to consenting adults.

Generally it is ST and up to the girl to decide if she stays LT. She may ask for a better tip for LT. Personally I think they quote ST so they don't have to commit for LT without knowing you first.

[Mr Enternational]

In Angeles City, does the bar fine, your payment to the bar, include sex, or do you have to pay extra to the lady for ST or LT? I'm not talking about a tip guys, just whether the bar fine includes everything or if you need to pay the ST or LT fee to th girl later or not?

Prostitution is illegal in the Philippines. So sex is not guaranteed, altough more oft than not it is included. Technically a bar fine only means that the girl can leave work. There are no separate prices for ST/LT that I have come across. The one price you are told covers all until it is time for the girl to come back to the bar the next day. Whether she will stay with you all of that time YMMV.

[Streetlooker]

In general I agree with you, but not in this case. The high fashion, high image-seeking girls that hang out at the club, and don't leave the house without looking great etc. Are more concerned with appearance than with sex. Money is expected to come easily for them. Guys are expected to just fall in place to pay for them etc. So they don't need to have sex for the cash directly. When she and I had sex, I could tell that sex was not high on her priority list in life. She was not hot for it, or needing of it. She had it, probably for the hope of making me into a long-time provider for her (sugar daddy).

Many girls in AC (often bar girls) are young, dumb? And without personality, smarts, experience, education, etc etc, to where they couldnt expect any guy (or employer) to want them for anything besides their youth and sexuality. These high fashion club girls I am talking about had personality and smarts etc and definately could rope guys in to be with them for more than sex. When I was with them, there was surely alot of fun and excitement in the air. Definately not the air of desperation seen by the BG's doing their zombie dance at a Bar.

As far a everyone in AC F'ing someone, I have tried chatting up waitresses etc and have gotten no where. There are some girls happy enough schlepping drinks or food all day and going home to the boyfriend and child, and wouldn't F a foreigner for all the $'s on Wall Street.

MOST are fucking someone. What guys forget is that its more then likely a Filipino boyfriend who they are fucking. The high so girls you speak of who have personality and smarts don't really have much to offer a guy either besides youth and sexuality. The high so girls know they will land a sucker because most of the guys that come here and go to the club are 2 week millionaires. They are also not much smarter then the girls themselves because they only think with there little head and are numb from to much alcohol consumption. The girls take full advantage of these guys and play them for has much money has they can get.

[Member #4591]

Just a quick question since I'm a little confused. In Thailand, the bar fine is paid to the bar and then you must pay the fee for the lady for short time or long time. But I have been reading this forum preparing for a trip and this question is unclear here since many pay more and many don't. What is the true answer? In Angeles City, does the bar fine, your payment to the bar, include sex, or do you have to pay extra to the lady for ST or LT? I'm not talking about a tip guys, just whether the bar fine includes everything or if you need to pay the ST or LT fee to th girl later or not?

[Dg8787]

You didn't know you had expert duck in hand mongers following you around knowing every girl you came in to contact with. Best to listen to all the unsolicited advice. Not!

Meanwhile thanks for your report.

[VicVeg]

Why do I feel like she played you. She hooked you and made you invest a lot of time and spend tons of money on her and her friends then she had sex with you "for money". And don't believe the I didn't have sex for 6 months story everyone is fucking someone in angeles especially Hi-so girls.

In general I agree with you, but not in this case. The high fashion, high image-seeking girls that hang out at the club, and don't leave the house without looking great etc. Are more concerned with appearance than with sex. Money is expected to come easily for them. Guys are expected to just fall in place to pay for them etc. So they don't need to have sex for the cash directly. When she and I had sex, I could tell that sex was not high on her priority list in life. She was not hot for it, or needing of it. She had it, probably for the hope of making me into a long-time provider for her (sugar daddy).

Many girls in AC (often bar girls) are young, dumb? And without personality, smarts, experience, education, etc etc, to where they couldnt expect any guy (or employer) to want them for anything besides their youth and sexuality. These high fashion club girls I am talking about had personality and smarts etc and definately could rope guys in to be with them for more than sex. When I was with them, there was surely alot of fun and excitement in the air. Definately not the air of desperation seen by the BG's doing their zombie dance at a Bar.

As far a everyone in AC F'ing someone, I have tried chatting up waitresses etc and have gotten no where. There are some girls happy enough schlepping drinks or food all day and going home to the boyfriend and child, and wouldn't F a foreigner for all the $'s on Wall Street.

[Mr Enternational]

Why do I feel like she played you. She hooked you and made you invest a lot of time and spend tons of money on her and her friends then she had sex with you "for money". And don't believe the I didn't have sex for 6 months story everyone is fucking someone in angeles especially Hi-so girls.

LOL. And when they tell me 2 weeks I take that with a grain of salt.

[BroComplex]

I had interesting times in Hi Society this trip. My flight got in late, and I went to Hi So at 3 am on Wednesday Morning. It was packed. There were plenty of free lancers. I asked one if she wanted a drink and after a chat, I mentioned going back to my room and she said 'short time only'. That seems to be a big theme in AC now a days.

The next day, I chatted up some girls and a lady boy sitting at a Fields coffee shop. I got one of the girl's number and texted her alot. We met up at Hi So and she brought alot of friends. To get a table, you have to spend at least 4 k peso, and I figured they were inviting me to flip some of the bill. Its ok.

It was interesting as one of her friends was gorgeous and had see's or the cups. I was watching her, and guys were coming around giving her the eye etc and she was dodging the older guys. It is NOT just a money thing with these girls. They want someone to date etc. Some of the guys they hang out with live in AC now, but most guys in Hi So are just tourists and leave after a few days. But I think the girls want a steady, not just a shag. They might take a shag with the right guy for some $, but boy would they like a sugar daddy or a baby daddy or a husband.

It was funny as I have hung out with the high fashion club girls in the USA and they had a HIGH price on their pussy. It was hard for a normal guy to get with them. In AC, if you are willing to just treat them to dinner / drinks etc a few times, you have met their price. After a few times out on fields and just a little drama etc, I got her to my hotel and banged her out really good. But just as you would think, the high priced girls are often the least experienced. She said she didn't have sex for over 6 months. And she took it like a champ, but boy she was a little timid etc as compared to the super-high sexual energy girls we love in the PI.

So all in all, it was a fun time, and a learning experience. They soaked me for dinner / drinks a few times, but unlike USA girls, I could keep on seeing them again as there werent too many guys lining up for that arrangement like would be seen by sex-starved guys in the USA. And she put out like a champ as I could meet her price. And a day after I finally got her in the sack, she texted me again. I think she wanted more time with me (both for me to flip the bill and to possibly work me into a boyfriend etc). I might of, but had to return to the land of the Hippos (ie USA).

Try the club scene, and expect to really have to work the high priced girls. Alot of them won't shag for money on the first date. They might take money (mine did) after the shag, but like I said, they value themselves enough to feel worthy of a relationship etc.

Why do I feel like she played you. She hooked you and made you invest a lot of time and spend tons of money on her and her friends then she had sex with you "for money". And don't believe the I didn't have sex for 6 months story everyone is fucking someone in angeles especially Hi-so girls.

[VicVeg]

Perfectly said, simple and true. For each of the two night I was their this past June I dressed nice, smiled, was fun spirited and yes spent some money of stuff like food, drinks, girls and really enjoyed myself and lived two nights like a rock star.

TTM.

I had interesting times in Hi Society this trip. My flight got in late, and I went to Hi So at 3 am on Wednesday Morning. It was packed. There were plenty of free lancers. I asked one if she wanted a drink and after a chat, I mentioned going back to my room and she said 'short time only'. That seems to be a big theme in AC now a days.

The next day, I chatted up some girls and a lady boy sitting at a Fields coffee shop. I got one of the girl's number and texted her alot. We met up at Hi So and she brought alot of friends. To get a table, you have to spend at least 4 k peso, and I figured they were inviting me to flip some of the bill. Its ok.

It was interesting as one of her friends was gorgeous and had see's or the cups. I was watching her, and guys were coming around giving her the eye etc and she was dodging the older guys. It is NOT just a money thing with these girls. They want someone to date etc. Some of the guys they hang out with live in AC now, but most guys in Hi So are just tourists and leave after a few days. But I think the girls want a steady, not just a shag. They might take a shag with the right guy for some $, but boy would they like a sugar daddy or a baby daddy or a husband.

It was funny as I have hung out with the high fashion club girls in the USA and they had a HIGH price on their pussy. It was hard for a normal guy to get with them. In AC, if you are willing to just treat them to dinner / drinks etc a few times, you have met their price. After a few times out on fields and just a little drama etc, I got her to my hotel and banged her out really good. But just as you would think, the high priced girls are often the least experienced. She said she didn't have sex for over 6 months. And she took it like a champ, but boy she was a little timid etc as compared to the super-high sexual energy girls we love in the PI.

So all in all, it was a fun time, and a learning experience. They soaked me for dinner / drinks a few times, but unlike USA girls, I could keep on seeing them again as there werent too many guys lining up for that arrangement like would be seen by sex-starved guys in the USA. And she put out like a champ as I could meet her price. And a day after I finally got her in the sack, she texted me again. I think she wanted more time with me (both for me to flip the bill and to possibly work me into a boyfriend etc). I might of, but had to return to the land of the Hippos (ie USA).

Try the club scene, and expect to really have to work the high priced girls. Alot of them won't shag for money on the first date. They might take money (mine did) after the shag, but like I said, they value themselves enough to feel worthy of a relationship etc.

[The Tall Man]

Goto the clubs early and find the best girls. Ask them to bring their friend along for a 3-some. Forget group sex with other men (unless you want a ladyboy).

It is 3000 p (60 usd) per girl, and most will try to get out after the deed is done.

Don't expect much from the 3-some. It is rare you will find 2 winners that like getting their freak on together with you. If you get some worn out 30-something MILF-types, you might. But not the young spinners. But try, you might win. Ask Mamasan who would be willing to get that going on. There are some slutty young girls that might like it. But many are shy / inexperienced etc and don't want to get all sexed up infront of a work mate. But if they are friends it might work.

During the day: AC is a LATE night town. I went to High Society, and it was rocking at 4 am. So stay out late and sleep all day. Then go to the mall or other hotels for the pools. Try Aqua club at ABC hotel. Bring girls there for fun.

Hit Tinder for options. Also try the pickup scene at Hi So, else just sitting around town (chat up girls at the coffee shops on fields ave). AC is all about making things happen. And if you are not cheap, and spend some $ on the girls (food, drinks, and some $ for a free-lancer or a tip for a bar girl), then fun is EASY to find in AC. Smile, dress nice, smell nice etc etc and they will fall into your lap.

Perfectly said, simple and true. For each of the two night I was their this past June I dressed nice, smiled, was fun spirited and yes spent some money of stuff like food, drinks, girls and really enjoyed myself and lived two nights like a rock star.

TTM.