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  1. #39133
    Quote Originally Posted by DaddySan  [View Original Post]
    I know that you can get HIV / STD test done at the Thai Red Cross Lab on Ratchadamri Road for little money and even anonymously. I want to get tested with my TGF before seriously indulging in sinful activities with her when I come to BKK in January.
    How long does it take before you get the results? How much does it cost?
    For HIV and Syphillis test, it only takes 1 hour for the results (in addition to maybe 30-60 min waiting for the test itself). Other STD tests can take longer, especially gonnhorhea / chlamidya about 2-3 weeks. Cost of HIV test is something negligible, like 200 baht, others are fairly cheap too.

    Note that with HIV, if she was just infected a few months ago, it might not show up positive on the test, but she might be highly infectious. I wouldn't have unprotected sex with a Bangkok working girl only based on a negative HIV test. There are also antibiotic-resistant strains of gonorrhea these days, so unless you trust the girl is clean (and if you do, why test) better use a condom.

  2. #39132
    I currently don't participate in the hobby much, don't read ISG regularly and so am getting a bit our of touch with the BKK scene.
    I have a couple of questions. They may have been answered here, but I could not find anything.
    I'd appreciate your help.

    1. I know that you can get HIV / STD test done at the Thai Red Cross Lab on Ratchadamri Road for little money and even anonymously.
    I want to get tested with my TGF before seriously indulging in sinful activities with her when I come to BKK in January.
    How long does it take before you get the results? How much does it cost?

    2. I picked up a rumor, that the alley adjoining the Villa Market on soi11, with its many MPs, is going to be shut or torn down.
    Is it true ind if so, when are the MPs shutting down?

    3. Maybe 2 years back, someone wrote here, that he had had A+ service at Mitu / soi 33.
    Does anyone know if this must have been an exception or is A+ regularly available there? Are any of the girls known to offer A+.
    Don't tell my TGF I asked, she doesn't need to know everything!

    Thanks in advance.

    DS.

  3. #39131

    Coyotes

    Are there any bars in Nana without so called Coyotes? It is spreading and in Cowboy also. On Nana many Coyotes come from the agency and have higher Barfines.

    To be a real Coyote they have to wear the right outfit, have a great body, and know how to dance the Coyote way, not the gogo way.

    So many Nana Coyotes do not fully qualify. Too fat or don't know how to dance or outfit is a bit wrong.

    I have BFed maybe only 3 Coyotes when the vibe was right.

    In Billboard girl was extreme lovey dovey and a repeat girl. She left after picking up a BF quickly.

    In Doll House the girl was raunchy, an OK fuck but no repeat.

    In mercury the girl was a true top dancer best in club Coyote at the time and great fuck. I was repeating her from years earlier at Midnite.

    However I don't BF Coyotes that much if BF is steep unless I really feel something special. I don't take those not available for sex.

    I think a high percentage in Nana are available for sex. One in Twisters knocked me back saying she was scared of Farang dick. However she indicated she could do small dick.

    Coyotes in the Arab bars of Cowboy are not available for sex officially. Therefore better not attend at all. Cowboy 2 is not an Arab bar.

    Otherwise two problems with Coyotes. Over dressed and over priced BFs. Often pretentious.

    My Mandarin experience was the Coyotes were a bit pushy. Tried to come to me without me calling them. I don't like having to tell girls to go away so that I can choose someone else.

  4. #39130
    Quote Originally Posted by LewisCarrol  [View Original Post]
    Friends,

    Would be visiting BKK for a week for work. Wanted to try out BJ bars for the first time. Understand reading the BKK forum would be the first thing to do but facing two issues - 1) No time with office etc. In next two days 2) Multiple threads even for BKK. Difficult to find info. Just need to understand the basic tips.

    Would really appreciate if someone can share personal experience (good BJ bars, rates, how it works, are there better options than BJ bars, how not to get conned etc). PM is active too!

    Thanks a lot!

    LC.
    You are less likely (or not at all) to be conned in a BJ bar. The worst can happen is that she will not take her top off or not do COF or whatever other service you agreed beforehand. The prices are usually around 700-1000 for BJ, FS being usually available everywhere.

    The best ones are Dr BJ (actually wood bar) , [CodeWord901], lolipop and som's heaven.

    If you are more on the sleezy side of the mongering, a BJ bar is a nice experience, as you will enjoyed getting blowed while hearing others fucking / sucking in the next room (s). The walls are not going all the way up so you hear everything.

    Anyways, it's something that everyone should do at least once in life.

  5. #39129
    Quote Originally Posted by Joebuster  [View Original Post]
    Had good session at Akane today with two ladies Yumi and Yuki, anyone know if Akane girls will visit hotel?
    The ladies only work in the shop so no outside service is available and FS is not on the menu. I generally go there when I am feeling lazy and take the M Lotion Mat B2B massage (one lady 90 min 1780 baht) or the V-3 (2 ladies 90 min 2580) in the VIP room. I normally take Yuki. Preliminary, slow easy BBBJ on the bed to get warmed up, then a nice body wash on the mat and the B2 be lotion massage followed by 10-15 minutes of rimming and then the finishing BBBJ, DT, CIM and sometimes swallow. With the remaining time I get body scrub and head massage. If two ladies I try for two shots.

  6. #39128
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    If you've not tried her yet, Gee at Mandarin is awesome in bed and has a great body.
    I have not met Gee. Thanks for the pics and recommendation. If she is a "Special Girl" and provides a hassle-free encounter your way, she would definitely be worth the extra 800 baht above the standard barfine, a system I whole-heartedly encourage and support. Yes, it would be better if all the girls provided that for the lesser barfine. But since they don't, a moderate two-tiered barfine system where most of the higher cost girls actually do provide something more and better for the extra charge than the norm these days, that works for me. I'll pay the extra 800 baht.

  7. #39127
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    You're right. When I first encountered Mandarin's two tier 1,500/700 baht barfine system 2-3 years ago the mamasans didn't use the word "Coyotes" but instead used the words "Special Girls". I don't know what they call them now since I still refer to them as "Special Girls" in the bar. But that might have been because in those days it was understood the vast majority of Coyotes did not barfine at all or if they did the barfine was ridiculously higher than the norm so as to discourage anyone from taking one. Many customers would refer to them as Coyotes now because they charge more for the barfine. For me, paying the extra 800 baht just to take them out is justification enough to be comfortable asking them directly what makes them so "special"; will they perform BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, BBFS, stay Long Time, etc. ? Otherwise, why are they considered "special"?

    I don't accept that the determining factor is all about youth, no baby or beauty. IMO, easily one of the hottest, youngest looking, baby-free girls in the bar, named Nung (like the number 1 in Thai) is not a "Special Girl" and has only a 700 baht barfine. Incidentally, her response to me for just about any question I had about going off the standard format was "no", not even BBBJ+CIM-no Swallow mentioned or requested. lol. On the other hand, the two nutcases I mentioned in my previous post said yes to everything I asked and they were only 700 baht barfine girls too. However, the reality is they each turned out to be such hassles in the room nothing for which they said "yes" in the bar was going to happen anyway.
    If you've not tried her yet, Gee at Mandarin is awesome in bed and has a great body.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails gee-mandarin-1.jpg‎   gee-mandarin-2.jpg‎  

  8. #39126
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    You're right. When I first encountered Mandarin's two tier 1,500/700 baht barfine system 2-3 years ago.. -snip-
    I had no idea there was a distinction. I was just always quoted 1,500 at Mandarin so I assumed that was the price for all of them. Was I just always picking the "special girls?" The price didn't deter me because Mandarin has some ridiculously cute gals (half of the time; the quality sure does spike day to day) and you know a lot of more normal and less than optimal choices depending on what you're looking for. Is there some way to distinguish between the "tiers?" Do they dress them differently? Every time I've been there they've all been more or less "in uniform" according to which rotation they were on. The rotation didn't seem to change the price, either. I suppose I could have just been ripped off; in either case, I always had a good time (ignoring one star fish) that was worth the money. I definitely have never had something like what happened to you happen to me. All the girls there always seemed rather submissive to me.

  9. #39125
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    Mandarin is the one and only bar where I would bar fine a coyote. It's also the only bar that I "have" bar fined a coyote. The coyote girls there are not the same as coyote girls at most bars. They are much more naughty and much more willing to go home with customers. Although they call themselves coyote and do charge a higher bar fine, they are always on the cards for sex whereas most coyote girls in other bars are not available to take home. I don't even really consider the coyote girls at Mandarin to be coyote girls. They are just higher priced go-go girls.
    You're right. When I first encountered Mandarin's two tier 1,500/700 baht barfine system 2-3 years ago the mamasans didn't use the word "Coyotes" but instead used the words "Special Girls". I don't know what they call them now since I still refer to them as "Special Girls" in the bar. But that might have been because in those days it was understood the vast majority of Coyotes did not barfine at all or if they did the barfine was ridiculously higher than the norm so as to discourage anyone from taking one. Many customers would refer to them as Coyotes now because they charge more for the barfine. For me, paying the extra 800 baht just to take them out is justification enough to be comfortable asking them directly what makes them so "special"; will they perform BBBJ+CIM+Swallow, BBFS, stay Long Time, etc. ? Otherwise, why are they considered "special"?

    I don't accept that the determining factor is all about youth, no baby or beauty. IMO, easily one of the hottest, youngest looking, baby-free girls in the bar, named Nung (like the number 1 in Thai) is not a "Special Girl" and has only a 700 baht barfine. Incidentally, her response to me for just about any question I had about going off the standard format was "no", not even BBBJ+CIM-no Swallow mentioned or requested. lol. On the other hand, the two nutcases I mentioned in my previous post said yes to everything I asked and they were only 700 baht barfine girls too. However, the reality is they each turned out to be such hassles in the room nothing for which they said "yes" in the bar was going to happen anyway.

  10. #39124

    First time in Bangkok

    Took my first trip to the mongering heaven that is Bangkok last week and have to say I was impressed. I live and play in Taipei and I get so much more pussy for the same price. I used Smooci to order the girls and was surprised as to how easy it was and cheaper than going to the actual websites.

    First night had Soda come over, as advertised she happily gave me a deep rimming and we had a great two shots. Second day was Pam, she was fun and seem genuinely happy that was both came at the same time. Funny girl. Last night saw Plang, she was my dream fuck, super thin with pretty nice breasts. By that time I was having a hard time getting that second shot out. Oh well, getting old.

    Really had fun and may try to come again to try out the bars and get some 3 p action.

  11. #39123
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    In the past I have touted as good experience and value for me the "Special" girls, some would say Coyotes, requiring a 1,500 baht barfine vs a 700 baht barfine in Nana's Mandarin Go-Go bars. I have not taken one of those in a while but instead found myself barfining a couple of their regular 700 baht barfine girls to disastrous results. The story on them is so strange and extreme I have not figured out whether I can relate it properly in a report even if I wanted to. LOL.

    Shortest version would be they were each hot body and hot dancers, all over me from first entry (usually a bad sign I know but I foolishly ignored it), assured to be "good girls" by the mamasan who knows me well as a reliable and generous customer and knows I barfine out the same good girl several times if happy about it. But each turned into overly wiggly nutcases in my room (drugs? Maybe), would not accept that I was calling off the session due to their most bizarre behavior because, each said, they "love me" so much. One even tore up and threw on the floor a 1,000 baht note I handed her for the 10-15 minutes of time (no sex for me) she spent with me in the room, not because it wasn't enough money (she and I had not talked about how much for her earlier) but as a big show that money supposedly didn't mean anything to her because she "loved" me so much after having met me for the first time just an hour before. That would have been just fine if only she had demonstrated her great "love" for me by not wiggling and shifting around so much that I could not actually fuck her and get off. Then she finalized that dramatic gesture by taking a full arm swing slap to my face with one hand and then the other because I had broken her heart tonight by not keeping her longer, which I didn't bother to block since she it was all about drama and I could tell wouldn't hurt me nearly as much as my seriously blocking it might hurt her.

    And she was the SECOND 700 baht barfine Mandarin girl in a row who went nutcase on me after the first one went nutcase in a similar way a week earlier and I had immediately that very night reported the aborted mission to the mamasan. Yes, this second nutcase was supposed to be the one to right the ship for me after a similar blow-up from another girl the week before! LOL.

    Suffice to say the difference in my experience between the 1,500 baht barfine "Special"/Coyote girls and the 700 baht barfine girls in Mandarin Go-Go bars could not be more stark and dramatic. If their goal was to make sure I would always choose the 1,500 baht girl from now on instead of the lesser baht ones, they have certainly achieved that goal. lol.
    Mandarin is the one and only bar where I would bar fine a coyote. It's also the only bar that I "have" bar fined a coyote. The coyote girls there are not the same as coyote girls at most bars. They are much more naughty and much more willing to go home with customers. Although they call themselves coyote and do charge a higher bar fine, they are always on the cards for sex whereas most coyote girls in other bars are not available to take home. I don't even really consider the coyote girls at Mandarin to be coyote girls. They are just higher priced go-go girls.

  12. #39122
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    These days a lot of bars in Nana are having fake Coyotes that are barfinable but at steeper prices and very risky if want a GFE. Some are certainly available for sex.
    In the past I have touted as good experience and value for me the "Special" girls, some would say Coyotes, requiring a 1,500 baht barfine vs a 700 baht barfine in Nana's Mandarin Go-Go bars. I have not taken one of those in a while but instead found myself barfining a couple of their regular 700 baht barfine girls to disastrous results. The story on them is so strange and extreme I have not figured out whether I can relate it properly in a report even if I wanted to. LOL.

    Shortest version would be they were each hot body and hot dancers, all over me from first entry (usually a bad sign I know but I foolishly ignored it), assured to be "good girls" by the mamasan who knows me well as a reliable and generous customer and knows I barfine out the same good girl several times if happy about it. But each turned into overly wiggly nutcases in my room (drugs? Maybe), would not accept that I was calling off the session due to their most bizarre behavior because, each said, they "love me" so much. One even tore up and threw on the floor a 1,000 baht note I handed her for the 10-15 minutes of time (no sex for me) she spent with me in the room, not because it wasn't enough money (she and I had not talked about how much for her earlier) but as a big show that money supposedly didn't mean anything to her because she "loved" me so much after having met me for the first time just an hour before. That would have been just fine if only she had demonstrated her great "love" for me by not wiggling and shifting around so much that I could not actually fuck her and get off. Then she finalized that dramatic gesture by taking a full arm swing slap to my face with one hand and then the other because I had broken her heart tonight by not keeping her longer, which I didn't bother to block since she it was all about drama and I could tell wouldn't hurt me nearly as much as my seriously blocking it might hurt her.

    And she was the SECOND 700 baht barfine Mandarin girl in a row who went nutcase on me after the first one went nutcase in a similar way a week earlier and I had immediately that very night reported the aborted mission to the mamasan. Yes, this second nutcase was supposed to be the one to right the ship for me after a similar blow-up from another girl the week before! LOL.

    Suffice to say the difference in my experience between the 1,500 baht barfine "Special"/Coyote girls and the 700 baht barfine girls in Mandarin Go-Go bars could not be more stark and dramatic. If their goal was to make sure I would always choose the 1,500 baht girl from now on instead of the lesser baht ones, they have certainly achieved that goal. lol.

  13. #39121
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    I hate it when those sites edit the pics in photoshop like they have done here. They should just post the natural photos of the girl.
    If they did that, then nobody would come LOL.

  14. #39120
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    ...

    Although others hate bars, this is a place where I can find girls that don't have bad nose jobs, have a good figure pretty much displayed to check out, and are preferring Farang customers, and handling them well, pornstars not necessary for me, nasty girls not necessary either. I have so much time to watch the girls and consider if their is any sign of a connection. I can chat to them (no overly loud band or disco music). It just seems to be the way that works better for me, although definitely not best value for money. Often I don't fuck bar girls on the first meeting unless they are exceptionally impressive. I seem to get lucky with girl selections more often in bars, although there is my experience contributing to the selection process. A random beauty selection at a Soapy needs a hell of lot more luck than is advisable. One Soapy where I only ever had the one bad selection, was Annies, but maybe was just lucky. Does not mean all the girls selected were super, but only one bad session. Obviously very few passed the looks test.

    ...
    Sounds like we are very similar, Syz. I too prefer hunting in bars, both in BKK and in Patts, for the same reasons. I have had a much higher hit ratio, although in years gone by I have found some keepers in various gogos. But nowadays I rarely hunt in those, cannot speak over the music, and the lighting often makes it difficult to clearly evaluate the goods. My best experiences on the most recent trip were all older hookers late 30's or even early 40's. Excellent GFE, which for me is the most important thing these days.

  15. #39119

    Akane

    Had good session at Akane today with two ladies Yumi and Yuki, anyone know if Akane girls will visit hotel?

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