Bangkok Reports

[EihTooms]

Maybe I will try to walk past Kasalong at the optimal time. I have actually never seen it before.

As you already know but some newbies might not realize, passing by a BJ Bar an hour or so either way or on a particular day vs another day can mean all the difference in terms of the quality of girls sitting outside that BJ Bar and available for a session. Sometimes the best looking girls are upstairs with a customer. But since I live nearby, I have reason to pass by L0lita's and Kasalong Bar many times throughout the week, almost daily. And I have observed much more often than not that there are 3-4 girls sitting outside Kasalong Bar that are more fetching than I have seen at most other such bars. Whenever I read a FR where the guy says he walked past Kasalong Bar and didn't see anyone worthwhile, I always check to see what time of day or night he is talking about. Most of the time there is no time mentioned but I can practically bet the farm he did not walk past there mid-morning around 11 AM or during the 5 PM hour. Usually a FR is about what happened during the evening, not during the day anyway.

Of course, we're only talking about looks and not BJ skills or the ability or willingness for the girl to accommodate and adjust. And, as you indicate, that is one area where YMMV really applies.

[Syzygies]

However, 1) felt some teeth on deep and 2) deep wasn't deep enough. Could've been much better. Continued for sometime -- CIM. Was curtains so didn't feel like talking after that. Wrap up, dress up, small talk, cya.

I once had a BJ from a western girl not in Thailand (well just one example). Buddy said she was famous for silky smooth BBBJ. He was Asian. Ha ha. For me she was overly toothy. Bad BJ.

I have learned that a great BBBJ for one girl guy combination, is a horrible one for same girl with another guy. There are so many reasons. A girl can be deep and very smooth with small cock but toothy and not deep with another size. Some guys like power and speed. I hate it. Extremely slow and sloppy for me.

Many girls cannot adjust themselves. No matter how many times tell them to go slower, they soon speed up again. They cannot even begin to understand just how slow I want it. I demonstrate very slow motion but they just don't learn easily.

Actually the curtains style never bothered me. I am not that shy, but probably the main point was I did not have to tolerate listening to some other noisy customer, as shop was quiet at the time. I progressed to paying extra for very large private room, and having a nice shower with girl and a fuck. Was still good value. That girl Anne is gone, so I need a new target girl at one of the shops, preferably with really hot ass.

Maybe I will try to walk past Kasalong at the optimal time. I have actually never seen it before.

[EihTooms]

Loli. Tas close at midnight and it's probably the same for Kasalong. It's well known that in most shops the line up is bigger from 17 o'clock than during the day so you'll have more chance to spot a better looking girl also.

I walk past both L0lita's and Kasalong Bar almost daily/nightly. IMO, Kasalong Bar's daytime shift generally has by far the 3-4 best looking girls I have ever seen working at any BJ Bar anywhere in Bangkok or Pattaya. I believe they open earlier but some of the girls don't show up until about 10-10:30AM, then spend the next hour or so sitting outside, brushing their hair, touching up their make-up, chatting among themselves, eating breakfast and getting ready for their day's work. If you want to see the most girls in both places, the 17:00/5PM to 18:00/6PM hour is the time to check them out as that is the hour where there is an overlap of daytime and evening shift girls. Also, I think both bars usually close at 1AM, not Midnight.

[EihTooms]

Disclaimer: All personal opinion, with only 1 girl tried at each place, so the experience might be because of the girl.

How to reach: Putting this upfront, as took me some time to find this. From Soi 6, you'll reach Lo Li Tas first. Need to walk 10 steps further to reach Kasalong. It's a bit confusing, I went in to Lo Li Tas first thinking that I have taken a wrong turn. There is an alley from back side also, with very low traffic (don't remember the Soi number).

LC.

Actually, you have that backwards. If you are approaching the area from Soi 6 you will reach Kasalong Bar first, then zig zag a bit through a small passage on the left as you face Kasalong Bar's shop front to get to L0lita's. But if you approach the area from Soi 8 you will reach L0lita's first as you described, then do the little zig zag through the small passage just past L0lita's on one side and American Bar & Grill on the other to get to Kasalong Bar. Maybe you got Soi 8 confused with Soi 6 in your memory.

Sounds like Tik has improved greatly in the couple of years since I tried her. Back then she was adamantly resistant to adjusting to anything I asked her to do. I had to abort the mission and move on to another choice when she stubbornly would not stop turning in a weird right angle to my body until she had my dick literally pointing 90 degrees to the right while she worked on it. LOL. Impossible. I must have gently asked her to please stop doing that at least a dozen times before resorting to gently moving her shoulders and body back to where she was facing me directly instead of facing the wall on the side of me. That would last about two strokes and then she went right back to that weird angle. Never tried her again after that.

[Belvaros]

If you like hot older MILF / Asian types, I have had some success chatting up freebies and FL types in various bars. If I lived here I would go this route and avoid the younger sugar-baby girlfriend route where I would be paying for her, mamasan, poppa, babies, aunts and yada yada yada.

Some still thin and very attractive MILFS to be had.

My $0. 02 worth, Thanks for the other reports in the last 20 pages or so. I never got to try Pat at Sharks and probably won't as the coyote I took will probably be there. I may try [CodeWord900] today as I am up very early and want to get a lot of shots in before I head to Ukraine.

[Belvaros]

I have had more fun just sitting and hanging out at places like Big Dogs opposite Nana Hotel, Thermae, Mullis Sports and Oskar than inside the true gogo bars. I like Big Dog as a place to sit and quietly watch the SW action in front of the Nana Hotel. Also gives one a place to view specific girls and see how they interact with customers, other girls and also to see if they are really Lady-Blokes in disguise.

I swear I have never seen such ladyboys anywhere, many are almost undetectable, mannerisms, voices, throats and some physiques are 100% female. Only the faintest male aggression thing seems to trip some up. I mean there is one SHIM upstairs at Nana (he / she wears colored contacts) who I would not be able to tell if they were away from the RL district. Quite scary. I guess there must be a market for these types as there are so many of them.

I leave tomorrow for the ME and Ukraine. I must say I really like BKK, always have, always will, but disappointed about the street food guys being kicked out and the rise of the Russian and ME crowd. I do love the bustle and hustle of big cities with open playgrounds for men. On a beer scale the puxxy here is cheap but the beer is not (if that makes sense).

I think Oskar and Thermae are worth a peep for those like me who prefer some FL action. A lot of Viet, Laos and Indos in some places and mixes thereof. Thermae does cater to a lot of Japanese so in some ways that makes it easier to get a slower feel for the ladies there.

[LewisCarrol]

Dear Seniors,

Thanks for your tips on BJ bars, picking the girls and general tips. Special thanks to Belvaros, Granddaddy and of course, Sygyzeis for their help. Day 3 was definitely much much better in terms of choices due to this. However, I had two more questions:

1) Where in BKK can I find trusted Russians or CIS girls, if any. I am open to most channels (GoGo Bars, BJ Bars, hotels, Parlours, Apps, Websites) except for street pickup, which I am really not comfortable with (but do let me know if that's the only way, will explore).

2) What are the usual rates? Don't want to raise prices or get unnecessarily charged.

PM is active too if the info is not public. Would really appreciate your help!

Thanks.

Safe mongering!

LC.

[LewisCarrol]

Disclaimer: All personal opinion, with only 1 girl tried at each place, so the experience might be because of the girl.

How to reach: Putting this upfront, as took me some time to find this. From Soi 6, you'll reach Lo Li Tas first. Need to walk 10 steps further to reach Kasalong. It's a bit confusing, I went in to Lo Li Tas first thinking that I have taken a wrong turn. There is an alley from back side also, with very low traffic (don't remember the Soi number). Now to the FR:

After dinner, took 15 min to find Kasalong. Saw all alleys etc. , to realize later that it's right next to Lo Li Tas. The lady who had given me a BJ 30 minutes earlier was sitting outside. LOL. Was a bit awkward. Anyways, Kasalong- 10 girls, very friendly. Again looks were average. One was decently pretty and enthusiastic. There was a prettier one, but she didn't show much of enthusiasm. Learning from past mistakes took the enthusiastic but slightly less pretty one. Didn't regret. Name was Tik (They put name of ladies on the tie). Asked "deep" loudly this time and all girls were like "Ohhhh deep work, she's the best! - turned out to be true later. Went in. Pleasantries exchanged, bought drink. She asked if I want to sit here for a while or want to go up. Friends were waiting at hotel so said let's go up. Better room than L. Had sink for one. Blue ambiance (L has pure Red ambiance). Talked for a while before wash.

Wash. Loved the way she did it. Standing on one leg, with one leg wrapped around my waist to bring it closer to the sink. Not sure if it was her own specialty or a usual thing at place. She told me if you are deep and want to CIM, let me know, I need to prepare. If not deep then fine. Fair request.

Deed started. And Wow!! She was so good. Balls deep. Sloppy. Fully responsive to all requests. Also allowed to be rough. Smiling all the way. No fake moans. In fact had some genuine talk in between, when I wanted to explain what I want her to do. But man, she never said no to anything. Eager to please. Top off, no mention of tips etc. Asked in between if it was going good or if she needs to change anything. I was happy. After quite some time of deep, I wanted to finish. So asked her to do normal stuff. CIM. She again asked if I was happy or does she need to do more. I was surely a happy man. Don't know was more friendly after the deed. Was telling me that there is no crowd for last 2 weeks, mostly empty. Maybe due to holidays. I think it's because of the location. Hard to find, Lo Li Tas comes first, so neutrals will go in there. Also told that she got cold after 2 days of rains otherwise can do it much better (I couldn't feel the difference).

At exit I wanted to tip her well but fell 30 be short in cash, which I wanted to give to her than to the house. She smiled and said it's okay. Please pay the bar I am happy. Liked the gesture.

Overall:

Look- 7/10.

Boobs- 7/10 (Natural but small).

BBBJ- 10/10 (Sloppy, Deep, 0 Teeth, Clean, Face Fuck allowed, all touches allowed).

GFE- 10/10 (Eager to please, highly responsive).

WIR. Surely!! Out of the 4 BJ bars tried. K SH L W.

Damage- 800 for BJ + 150+80 for drink + Tip.

Massage and Smooci still pending. Don't have much time left and need a genuine massage (no boom boom) for my cramped legs (more beer+wine than water). Let's see how much I can do.

Safe mongering!

LC.

[LewisCarrol]

Continued exploring BJ Bars. Had time on Day 3 but BKK traffic took its toll. Took 2 hours to reach the area. Wanted to try Kasalong first based on reviews. Was following directions on maps. Saw Lo Li Tas, where Kasalong should have been. Thought I took the wrong turn. But how does it matter? Decided to get in.

8 girls. Took some time this time outside. Pretty average. Chose Chen (G) - made sure I made expectations clear ("Deep" The lady asked big or small, said average but want deep. She was pretty and friendly (probably not in a genuine way, read next report on kasalong on why I felt so). Went in, bought drink, used restroom (2 hours in cab, remember?) and went up.

Lo Li Tas is very different from Som's Haven, Kasalong and Wood Bar in two ways - 1) Only curtains and sofa (others at least had a wall) 2) No sink in the main area. That was a surprise. The lady cleaned up johny with wet wipes. 3) No upfront payment. You pay after the deed. Some fake compliments, talk on the way, and the deed started. Top innerwear on. On asking to remove, she said you might have to pay me more. OK. Complemented (She herself said it's small. Wasn't that small. I Said it's fine). BJ was good initially, Friendly, Knew what she was doing, good tongue work. She was receptive to commands, friendly all the way. However, 1) felt some teeth on deep and 2) deep wasn't deep enough. Could've been much better. Continued for sometime -- CIM. Was curtains so didn't feel like talking after that. Wrap up, dress up, small talk, cya.

Overall:

Look- 7/10.

Boobs- 9/10 (All natural, but small).

BBBJ- 6/10.

GFE- 6/10 (Was helpful, responsive, -4 for asking tips during the deed, you do good work, you'll get good tips. As simple as that).

Damage- 800 for BJ + 150+150 for drink + Tip.

Had dinner. Wanted to try kasalong while in area. Took a lot of time to find!! Realized after 15-20 minutes, that it's right next to Lo Li Tas (Pokerface) - Cheng was sitting outside while going to Kasalong, was a bit awkward (2nd BJ bar in 30 minutes) but both waved and said Hi. Kasaling FR in the next post.

[Paolo99]

I love both of those places. Going back in October, can't wait to visit a few times then.

A day time BJ at either of those places, on top of nighttime running around town can wear you out after 10 days or so, but I'm ready!

I've never been to either of them at night, is the talent better then?

Loli. Tas close at midnight and it's probably the same for Kasalong. It's well known that in most shops the line up is bigger from 17 o'clock than during the day so you'll have more chance to spot a better looking girl also.

[Syzygies]

In BJ bars (Star of Light, Som's Haven etc) you usually get a chance to interact with the girl quite a bit (including making out) before you pick her. I normally choose someone who's willing to sit with me, make me feel good, and not immediately insist on doing the deed.

If you can't interact much (fishbowl massage parlors, oilies, maybe some BJ bars too), there is simply no way to know. Ones who try hard to grab your attention can often be crap in bed, and the shy ones can turn out to be decent. As long as the girl doesn't seem to actively avoid going with you (some do, especially in spots getting more Thais than Farang! There's no way to tell what will happen service-wise. Just pick the one that makes your dick stand up.

Honestly, I'm not that impressed by Wood Bar (ex Doctor BJ). There are several better BJ bars in Bangkok.

Loli-tas is very much preventing any girl play downstairs.

As to the shops, seems strange to me to dislike Woodbar as a shop. It was once fine for me (have not attended that recently). Even if some Farang guys on the staff did not appeal to me (LOL). I just never really interact with them at all if ever waiting for the girl to be ready. I prefer staff in a shop like this to be Thai and female preferably. Don't like all the Thai boys hanging around like pimps (maybe boyfriends of the girls). Feels slightly creepy exploitive. I just did not give a rat's ass about the shop itself whether was Lollytas, Woodbar, whatever. Some BJ bars I never tried (failing to find a good looking girl at the time). To me the decision is, which shop has the particular girl that does it for me. Maybe I am really weird, because when I really like the girl a lot, I want to fuck her, kiss her, etc. , not just get blown.

It has always for me been about, which shop has the girls I like. A girl can pull me. If I really don't like the shop rooms (like Annies), take out is always a possibility, which I did in the past with Aor a few times. Whoops, I can see takeout for BJ is not a real possibility. LOL.

So Woodbar BJ rooms are not much good for fucking, is that the problem? I think I only ever used a BJ room a couple of times. Or is it the sterile hospital like atmosphere downstairs (I thinking back to before the redecorate)? Or the Thai boy pimps hanging around? Or just the girl selection is no good (not necessarily a permanent problem)? Not many girls look as good as their pic, but when I used to attend they did have more than 1 girl that looked good, and doable for me. No clue what the current talent is like.

[Syzygies]

Crazy House will definitely not allow a group of Indians. I have been there 2-3 times but solo. Never had a real problem getting entry. The chap at the entrance gave a long hard look sometimes but I just smiled at him and went in. Maybe my age, fair complexion and decent attire worked in my favor. But a group of young indians, no way. In fact bar fined a lady on my first visit. Never really liked the place apart from the nudity. Maybe because I don't prefer skinny girls. Like some pounds at the right places, not too chubby.

Generalising greatly, it is well known that Indians like girls with a lot more meat on them than my skinny model taste. When I used to attend Mercury bar, I noted that many customers were Indians and most girls (with a couple of exceptions) were too "chubby" for me, read "voluptuous" for the customers that liked them.

So Crazy House may well be too full of slim / skinny girls for some to like it. Some of my favourite girls have very small tits, to the point of having virtually just nipples. LOL Makes a change for GF with quite full tits.

[Mumbai Guy]

I think will be difficult to get in Crazy, especially if a group of 4. If was in a different mixed country group, may be possible.

Long gun has some nude girls. Soso for me (I like skinny) but might be your spec. Doll's house probably has some nude uglies too. I did not check recently enough.

Crazy House will definitely not allow a group of Indians. I have been there 2-3 times but solo. Never had a real problem getting entry. The chap at the entrance gave a long hard look sometimes but I just smiled at him and went in. Maybe my age, fair complexion and decent attire worked in my favor. But a group of young indians, no way. In fact bar fined a lady on my first visit. Never really liked the place apart from the nudity. Maybe because I don't prefer skinny girls. Like some pounds at the right places, not too chubby.

[Grandaddy Perp]

Humble question to Seniors. How do you improve chances of getting a good girl in short time settings like in BJ bars? I though looks + enthusiasm (judged by smile) would be sufficient, but.

- The ones who are good looking are not smiling.

- The ones who are smiling are not good looking.

- The ones who was smiling and good looking turned up to have no skill.

Any thumb-rules or tips to improve selection qualitiy? Would appreciate your help!

Safe mongering,

LC.

Just expect the vast majority to be mediocre or below regardless of looks or smile that way if they are above average it will seem better than it really is.

[Belvaros]

Humble question to Seniors. How do you improve chances of getting a good girl in short time settings like in BJ bars? I though looks + enthusiasm (judged by smile) would be sufficient, but.

- The ones who are good looking are not smiling.

- The ones who are smiling are not good looking.

- The ones who was smiling and good looking turned up to have no skill.

Any thumb-rules or tips to improve selection qualitiy? Would appreciate your help!

Safe mongering,

LC.

I avoid (usually);.

1. Girls who look at their phone all the time.

2. Girls who do not smile.

3. Girls who have poor touch / feel (just lightly touch her arms and see how she responds).

4. Girls who openly make fun of or abuse other patrons.

5. Girls who have little in the way of manners.

I like picking the quieter girls who may be more in the background and less likely to attract trouble.