Phnom Penh

[Member #4698]

At first I thought it is ridiculous too, but here is the math.

Flights $200.
Visa $30.
Airport transfers by Taxi (to and fro) $24.
Hotel $120.
Room Service + Tips $20.
Food $60.
Bar Entertainment $150.
Chicks from DD $300.
Chicks from Bars $240.
Miscellaneous $50.

Total of $1200 rounded off. Tell me where is the play? Am I splashing too much on drinks in the bars and entertainment? Am I splashing on DD girls? Or am I overpaying the LT chick from a hostess bar?

You tell it like it is, but I always play a little trick on my expenditure account. I count separately Hotel, Food, Drink, and Misc charges because they would be roughly the same amount anywhere. It is kind of like a fixed cost of travel although certain cities have higher fixed costs than others obviously. The variable cost is how much I spend on girls. So, by my rose-colored cost accounting method PP cost you $540 or $90/ day. This sounds so much better. Ha Ha.

In answer to your questions: No, no, & no although I would add that in my limited experience with DD chicks, the 1st night is ST and 100 bucks with no one watching the clock and whenever I chose to see a particular DD girl a 2nd time, ST always turned into LT and the price remained the same at 100 bucks although a romantic dinner at a nice Khmer restaurant was part of the 2nd get together. But since I don't count dinner as a part of my chick expense account there was no increase in cost. 555.

[IllusionHeart]

I must be a damn Cheap Charlie in PP compared to you guys. I can't even fathom being able to spend this much money on a 3 day trip to PP and that includes me going to higher end restaurants in the Street 360 area.

You definately are not a cheap Charlie and we all know that buddy. Its individual preferences that come into play here regarding visiting entertainment places. If you exclude DD and Pontoon then your expenses automatically will be down to $100 or $150 per day on entertainment.

I burned through an average of almost $300+ every day for 6 days. I was doing hostess bars, DD and Pontoon almost every night. I sure did spend less than half on a daily basis in PYX.

[Blanquiceleste]

I must be a damn Cheap Charlie in PP compared to you guys. I can't even fathom being able to spend this much money on a 3 day trip to PP and that includes me going to higher end restaurants in the Street 360 area.

At first I thought it is ridiculous too, but here is the math.

Flights $200.

Visa $30.

Airport transfers by Taxi (to and fro) $24.

Hotel $120.

Room Service + Tips $20.

Food $60.

Bar Entertainment $150.

Chicks from DD $300.

Chicks from Bars $240.

Miscellaneous $50.

Total of $1200 rounded off. Tell me where is the play? Am I splashing too much on drinks in the bars and entertainment? Am I splashing on DD girls? Or am I overpaying the LT chick from a hostess bar?

[IllusionHeart]

Just try out one Wechat girl. Did a video call she's very good looking but turn out she's a he. Just got my good time ruin by that bastard. Recommend check everything out before taking them.

Thanks for sharing. This is all part and parcel of the game or hunt. Happens at some point to many of us.

I was stood up by a girl from wechat in PNH during my last. She kept sending me location update on Wechat till the last 15 minutes. She never turned up and I wasted good hour or two, must have got a better paying customer then me I thought. I was right as she didn't unfriend me and later I saw her posting pics of dinner and gifts with what seemed to be one of her regular customers from Thailand. I kept wondering why would a Thai guy come to PNH and have a Khmer girl when his own kind are plentiful and easily available back home. Guess everyone craves for variety at some point of time.

Besides you were smart enough to do a VC beforehand. Some guys end up having the girl coming in the room directly or creating a scene in the lobby.

Hence my recommendation to all is to always meet a girl in the lobby despite all chats and video engagements, etc and then take things ahead from there. Especially for the girls from social media you have to be slightly more patient and careful.

[EliteCeasar]

Just try out one Wechat girl. Did a video call she's very good looking but turn out she's a he. Just got my good time ruin by that bastard. Recommend check everything out before taking them.

[Banana Boi]

Thanks for the report, Blancqui. A great resource for those who have never been to PP. Like yourself, Pontoon is not my style. I'd prefer to have my Khmer girl planted in my room well before Pontoon gets going. DD and bar girls are better looking too imo. Daytime is a struggle unless you know PP girls who will grab some lunch with you for free. Kudos to you guys for looking around in the day. I'd rather save my energy and head out when the bars get going at 8 pm.

$1000 for a 3 day trip is fairly expensive in my opinion.

All in all, a cool $1000-$1500 for a weekend of fun.

I must be a damn Cheap Charlie in PP compared to you guys. I can't even fathom being able to spend this much money on a 3 day trip to PP and that includes me going to higher end restaurants in the Street 360 area.

[Blanquiceleste]

LOS is Numero Uno. No question about it. The Land of Smiles: I can't think of another place that has it all. Of course, you can always compare LOS 2017 to LOS 1992 and '92 comes out on top or you can compare Phnom Penh 1995 to BKK 2017 and I think Phnom '95 was more fun too, but this type of comparisons is pointless really because we are living in 2017 and have no choice about it. Truth be told, no destination today is better than it was 20 years ago. But I like visiting Jakarta, MNL, & Macau today as well as LOS because the local girls are sexy and friendly and I like variety in my Asian cuisine, but those cities do not have as much to offer as BKK especially in the afternoons unless you invite your favorite girls over for pool parties. 555.

And I still like Phnom. The girls are unique and very nice and I like the food & culture. One of these days I might invite a favorite Khmer girl to come along with me on a short trip to Battambang or one of the islands. Kampot & Kep are pleasant and I highly recommend Siem Reap if you have never been there.

On Phnom Penh: I still can't think of a better place for a 3,4,6-day visa run although next trip I am going on a visa run to Yangon instead. I went to Burma (Mandalay, Bagan, Yangon) around 7 years ago before the country opened up and I had a good time. I particularly enjoyed the sights and liked the people, but I did not fool around back then. So, I am going back for a taste of Burmese girls and to check out one of the Andaman beaches.

P.S. I enjoyed reading your trip report. You described everything just the way it is.

Thanks Natty for your kind words. Very valuable suggestions for a quick getaway from PP, if I were staying longer. I would love to go to Myanmar as well, but the scene there seems pretty dull? At least the intel on the net suggests so. Do you think people are keeping things to themselves there?

[SlowAndEasy]

Thank you for the kind words Illusion. Frankly, I do not think I can ever do a trip here that is longer than a weekend. The sheer paucity of options make a full holiday to this city very difficult.

Wow, great review. I will spend 2 nights in PP at the end of October.

Have you been to Bali? Bali will be more for sightseeing, but any recommendations would be appreciated.

[Member #4698]

So, once again I will say this. LOS is by far the most favorable mongering destination in Asia, perhaps the world for a variety of reasons. Simply unrivaled.

LOS is Numero Uno. No question about it. The Land of Smiles: I can't think of another place that has it all. Of course, you can always compare LOS 2017 to LOS 1992 and '92 comes out on top or you can compare Phnom Penh 1995 to BKK 2017 and I think Phnom '95 was more fun too, but this type of comparisons is pointless really because we are living in 2017 and have no choice about it. Truth be told, no destination today is better than it was 20 years ago. But I like visiting Jakarta, MNL, & Macau today as well as LOS because the local girls are sexy and friendly and I like variety in my Asian cuisine, but those cities do not have as much to offer as BKK especially in the afternoons unless you invite your favorite girls over for pool parties. 555.

And I still like Phnom. The girls are unique and very nice and I like the food & culture. One of these days I might invite a favorite Khmer girl to come along with me on a short trip to Battambang or one of the islands. Kampot & Kep are pleasant and I highly recommend Siem Reap if you have never been there.

On Phnom Penh: I still can't think of a better place for a 3,4,6-day visa run although next trip I am going on a visa run to Yangon instead. I went to Burma (Mandalay, Bagan, Yangon) around 7 years ago before the country opened up and I had a good time. I particularly enjoyed the sights and liked the people, but I did not fool around back then. So, I am going back for a taste of Burmese girls and to check out one of the Andaman beaches.

P.S. I enjoyed reading your trip report. You described everything just the way it is.

[Free2]

So, once again I will say this. LOS is by far the most favorable mongering destination in Asia, perhaps the world for a variety of reasons. Simply unrivaled.

Am I the only one wondering what the heck "LOS" is?!

[Xpartan]

Hi guys,

About to make my first visit to town, and have been told the sun and moon hotel is good. Anybody know if its guest friendly? (I'd hate to waste my time on a hotel that was not).

Cheers in advance.

I highly recommend it. It's a solid 3. 5-4 star hotel with an excellent rooftop pool. I felt it was important in that climate.

They charge $10 for a girl unless you book double occupancy (which will cost you $10 more per night). If you pull girls more than once a day, booking double makes sense.

The breakfast was decent, but pricey for PP. Right across the street there is a coffee shop. Also kinda pricey, though.

If you want quiet, ask for the internal room. No view, but quiet as it gets.

If I went there again, though, I would splurge for a suite. Just a little more expensive, but looks very nice in the picture.

[Blanquiceleste]

You have managed to cover all types of venues this city has on offer except massage places which even I won't bother again with after my experience in the first trip.

The limited options might make a long stay slightly monotonous and boring.

This intel like other posted on board will surely benefit someone who plans to or is visiting in near future.

Thank you for the kind words Illusion. Frankly, I do not think I can ever do a trip here that is longer than a weekend. The sheer paucity of options make a full holiday to this city very difficult.

Sure, one can go to Darling Darling every night and pick a girl. The quality is pretty good there. But the price tag of $100 for ST is eye watering. Not to mention the additional $20 you will spend on drinks. And there is no guarantee the girl will turn out as good in bed as advertised.

Pontoon for poontang is not my idea of fun. I have stated this previously on the LOS forum as well. Going to a disco and staying up till 5 am to pick up a drunk chick does not work for me.

As for the bars on the grid between 136 and 104, you will grow tired after 2 rounds. Only a few have talent that is worth any consideration.

One could cut a side trip to Snooky, but only if you have a reliable performer with you who will not chew your brain when not fucking.

So, once again I will say this. LOS is by far the most favorable mongering destination in Asia, perhaps the world for a variety of reasons. Simply unrivaled.

[PommyChris]

Hi guys,

About to make my first visit to town, and have been told the sun and moon hotel is good. Anybody know if its guest friendly? (I'd hate to waste my time on a hotel that was not).

Cheers in advance.

[IllusionHeart]

But the Khmer girls are a refreshing change from the Thai girls, most of whom have long forgotten the art of GFE. Exposure and market advancement does wonders to the service population, NOT.

This was a real quick and short trip. You have managed to cover all types of venues this city has on offer except massage places which even I won't bother again with after my experience in the first trip.

Mixed experiences with girls also made me consider PNH as an option but the prices are something to be really factored in comparison with LOS. They do add up eventually. $1000 for a 3 day trip is fairly expensive in my opinion.

The limited options might make a long stay slightly monotonous and boring. I may have to consider living a nocturnal / vampirish life here and sleep in the daytime if I do ever get bored with LOS, Philippines and Jakarta and end up here for a longer stay. The other option is to club a few days side trip to Sihanoukville and I have been advised by my close buddies to take girl along with from PNH and not risk on finding one there.

But appreciate that you have taken this trip, shared with all. This intel like other posted on board will surely benefit someone who plans to or is visiting in near future.

[Blanquiceleste]

Formula 1 weekend in Singapore. The whole world seems to be flying in here. What better time to get out of the Little Red Dot.

Day 1 - 14 Sep.

Flew in from Singapore and landed at around 2:30 pm. $30 for VoA. Cleared immigration and collected bags in no time. I paid the fixed fare of $12 for a taxi ride to the hotel. I was booked at Ohana PP Palace Hotel. More details in the hotels thread. Since this was a 3 day trip, I did not bother getting a SIM card, but it's roughly $4 for a week long plan.

Checked in at around 4:00 pm. After a quick shower, I stepped out to take in the sights the city has to offer. Wandered around the grid between 148 and 104, ducking in and out each street. Not much gets going before dusk in this city I guess. A few bars that were open on 136 had scant attendance.

Walked into a random bar on 136 and got a cold beer. As I was the only customer in that bar, the 6 girls in that bar surrounded me. I got a couple of them a drink each and waved the rest away. With this new found privacy (5555) I started fooling around with both girls. One of them was naughtier than the other. So I asked her for barfine and ST. $10 for barfine + $50 for ST. I offered $40 plus a good tip if I was happy. Since business was slow she accepted. Within 5 minutes we were back in room for my first taste of Khmer pussy in years.

A couple of hours later, I let her go, fixed myself a drink and relaxed for a while. I was biding my time for Darling Darling later that evening. By 8. 30 pm I stepped out again for some grub and then got a tuk tuk to Naga World. This being my first ever visit, I was quite impressed with the place. Now it is a far cry from Vegas or Macau but the place held itself nicely. However, I was not here for the slot machines or the blackjack tables. I was here for the chicks. And in that department they do not disappoint. There are chicks hanging out in the lobby, in the coffee shop lounge area and on the gambling floors. After a brief reconnaissance of the place I entered DD. I saw a bevy of beauties lined up against the bar table. At the far end of the room there were another bunch of girls lined up. Judging by the way they were dressed and how they were being directed by the staff, they appeared to be employed by the management for "services" while the ones against the bar table were likely freelancers. Within 15 minutes I was approached by 3 different girls. I decided to play ball with one of the cuties and offered to buy her a drink. As the drink arrived the girl got frisky and started grinding her ass against me. I responded by running my hands all over her lithe body. Then I started talking about services and investments. $100ST. At first I could not believe my ears but since I had RTFF, I was not fazed. I told the girl that money was not a problem but I wanted top notch service if she wanted a good tip. Before the clock struck 11:00 pm I was out from there with girl in tow. Went back to hotel and banged the daylights out of this awesome Khmer girl who took it like a real trooper. Took a break after round 1 and went to town again. But, sadly the experience was quite professional. Not the GFE we have grown to love in other SEA countries. Maybe I picked the pro. By 1. 30 am I let the girl go with $110. She was neither overjoyed not upset.

Time for Pontoon. Another tuk tuk and I was there in 10 minutes. As you enter the main door leading down a passage, to your left is a lounge / dance room that was empty. At the end of the passage was the main dance floor / bar which was packed. Very loud music, smoke hanging in the air and a general sausage fest. Curses! Across from the bar area, is another room that played different music and that was rather empty. I was told that place gets full after 3:00 am. Since it was my first night and my first time at Pontoon I decided to wait and check the place out. And it indeed filled up by quarter past 3 am. But nothing that caught my eye. Now fatigue was beginning to set on me so I decided to call it a night and headed back to the hotel, alone. Slept well.

Day 2 - 15 Sep.

Woke at 10:00 am and headed for breakfast on the rooftop. Nice serene views of the river, but too hot for open air dining. But there was nothing else to do in the city at least till 2 pm so I hung around with a coffee and fired up social media. Totally dead!! Pick any random app and it will draw a blank. So I went back to the room, changed and took a dip in the pool. Killed a couple of hours this way.

As 2:00 pm came around I went back to the room, showered and changed and stepped out again. Found a lovely noodle soup place close to the hotel. Filled up. Walked around. The place was very quiet, almost deserted. I was starting to get anxious about an afternoon session. I did not want to go back to the bar I went to yesterday. And it was really hot to continue walking around this way. So after an hour of wandering, I went back to the hotel and got a nap. Headed out again by 6:00 pm. By now the bars were coming to life and nearly all of them were inviting customers to come in and have a drink. I went from bar to bar ordering only a bottle of water till I found a really cute chick I wanted to take out at Xanadu. This is a mixed bar, so keep your eyes and ears open. I got a couple of drinks for her and her friends (one of who was a LB). But I had a really good time fooling around and playing whatever music I liked. I think close to $30 in drinks alone. $10 for the barfine. $70 for LT. And boy or boy, this one was a fantastic decision. Everything about the girl and the time we spent was memorable. Just one complaint. She is a bit aggressive when it comes to DFK. And while kissing all over the body, she bites!

We headed back to the room by 8:00 pm for a romp. Since she was now my "girlfriend" I took her out to dinner and then took a nice long walk holding hands along the riverside. By 11:00 pm we were at it like rabbits again. After that we went to Pontoon and shook a leg. Stopped by a local stall near GSM for some food at 3:00 am. Returned to the hotel and slept like babies. Woke by noon to a great BBBJ that finished in doggy. At this point I was ready to cut her loose, but she just did not want to leave. I had make some lame excuse to get her going. Paid her $80 including the tip and kissed her goodbye. Went back to sleep.

Day 3 - 16 Sep.

Woke after a couple of hours to the realization that it was already my last day here. I had a flight back the next day at 12 noon. Got some food and again walked around the grid of bars. This time nothing caught my fancy for an afternoon session. Probably because I was so spent from last night.

The day was very quiet again. After 4 pm I got out and ducked in and out of bars for a few hours. Finally made my way to Street 104 and peeped into the bars there. I had read a lot about Rose bar (courtesy Natty) but on my visit, I could see only sad sullen faces inside. No customers.

Stopped at One Zero Four where I spotted a real hot chick. Again splashed cash on drinks for girls and picked the one I wanted. Rinse and repeat from Day 2.

Day 4 - 17 Sep.

In the morning by 9:00 am I let go with $80, packed up, checked out and headed to the airport. I took a tuk tuk back for $7. Flight was on time and as the aircraft pushed back I made a mental note to come back here soon.

SIDE NOTE. I managed to catch the Formula 1 race in the evening. Mighty disappointing for a Ferrari fan, but a race in wet weather can always be tricky. It is incredibly hard to get a photograph of the cars whizzing past, unless you have a real professional camera. And skills.

In summary. PP is great but only for a short time. There is absolutely nothing to do between 12 noon and 6 pm, assuming you have a LT staying over from the previous night at least till noon. If not, then you are staring at a prospect of going without a pussy for nearly 18 Hours on a mongering trip. Sacrilege.

As Illusion has pointed out the place is not exactly cheap anymore. Flights roughly cost $200 round trip from SG. Could be more depending on when you book. Visa costs $30. Good hotels with a river view will cost you $60-$75 a night. Tuk tuks will haggle for $2 on every ride. DD girls won't budge from $100 for ST. They might agree to $150 for LT, but $200 is the norm. Girls in the bars around 136 and 130 will ask $50 for ST and $80 to $100 for LT. But you can negotiate here. $10-$12 barfines. Drinks are not expensive but the tab can easily get out of hand if you are not paying attention. Food is still very cheap IMHO. If you eat only Western food then be prepared to fork out more $$ All in all, a cool $1000-$1500 for a weekend of fun. Not very different from LOS. But the beauty of LOS is that one can have fun for roughly half this amount throughout the day. But the Khmer girls are a refreshing change from the Thai girls, most of whom have long forgotten the art of GFE. Exposure and market advancement does wonders to the service population, NOT.