East China - Suzhou

[Onojdi]

Few days ago I was at Suzhou and decide to follow CoconutWater89 advice (thanks a lot for the tips) and to try the parlour near the Fenhu Lu station, but then I read that FS is almost a no option. I wanted FS and nothing less so decide to follow his advice and to go to the area near Emerald City. And I'm more than happy for that choice. It was a real adventure.

First the directions. Get off at the Tayuan metro station, walk on Dengwei road, then turn right on Changjiang road. Just before the crossroad at Heshan road there is a row of small chinese restaurants and shops. The area looks nothing fancy, it is a small street. Then walk slowly and expect to be approach by in my case young woman who will speak something about 300 yuan / quai. This is your guid. But at the street there was at least one more "guide" that was an old lady and my guess is that there is at least 1-2 more like them walking around.

So walk after her and enjoy the surrounding. You are waling through small local shop, dark alleys, really bad looking buildings and then will reach something like an dirty inner court. Then the door will open, you will enter in small pink room with few girls. In my case four. One ugly, one nothing special playing with her phone and two really really good looking young and nasty girls. I choose one, paid 300 yuan, follow her at really small room with a bed and almost nothing else. FS, great fun, not GFE but the service was really good. Then when everything is done, you realise that you are in the middle of a really shitty area, in really shitty house and want to get out as fast as possible.

Overall great experience with all the adrenaline and everything. So sad that I was less than 24 hours in Suzhou. BTW great city!

[Beijing4987]

I got out at DongWu Road and ShiHu Dong Road. As usual there are few numbers on stores. #169, nothing close to. #1255. I need more details. Go left or right on DongWu Road.out of exit 1. I went two blocks did not find it. West Side, East side of DongWu Road? I guess I could have asked "where is the hospital. Could not find a reference on Internet.
HELP!

[Kinky Ginge]

Are there any directions, address etc to the RLD over in Wuzhong. If it can be found I'll check it out.

Yes, that's the one. Zhuyuan Lu and Fenhu Lu on the south side of the road east of the foreign language school, not west like I wrote. Just further east is Izumiya on the opposite side of the road, so if you see Izumiya you walked too far.

Rooms are actually the nicest I've seen at a massage parlour. I've only done a non happy ending massage at the Elephant, but the rooms at the Zhuyuan Lu one are actually way nicer. AC / Heating is really good; fun place to go on a cold and rainy day. You tell the front desk clerk if you'd like to pay 300,500, or 800. AFAIK 500/800 don't indicate BJ / FS, just time. You can pay afterword. I can remember them only once sending me a really ugly girl, who I turned down to wait for another one..

[CoconutWater89]

Thanks for the report.

The spa that is near the Fenhu Lu station, is it on the Zhuyuan Rd? And do you pay upfront for the service that you want or during the "massage" you bargain directly with the girl for extra service? Last question. What type are the rooms? I mean basic bed in dirty room, normal room with standard shower or spa kind of rooms with Jacuzzi I have been in different situations and found that environment is not related to the level of service but still curious about it.

Yes, that's the one. Zhuyuan Lu and Fenhu Lu on the south side of the road east of the foreign language school, not west like I wrote. Just further east is Izumiya on the opposite side of the road, so if you see Izumiya you walked too far.

Rooms are actually the nicest I've seen at a massage parlour. I've only done a non happy ending massage at the Elephant, but the rooms at the Zhuyuan Lu one are actually way nicer. AC / Heating is really good; fun place to go on a cold and rainy day. You tell the front desk clerk if you'd like to pay 300,500, or 800. AFAIK 500/800 don't indicate BJ / FS, just time. You can pay afterword. I can remember them only once sending me a really ugly girl, who I turned down to wait for another one.

I never really negotiated with the girls; some of them just busted out the weird plastic bag thingy and started blowing or did so after I asked, others just went with the HJ or refused if I asked. Bring your own condom, because they use their own weird plastic bag thingy and don't have condoms at the parlour. I was offered full service once by one woman there who asked for 500 directly to her after I'd agreed to 300 at the front desk. That was about 2 years ago though now.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/vi...639105225&z=16

If the link doesn't work, just google search "suzhou bbs map".

This thread is big and lots of dated info, but a lot of this stuff on this map which was posted here is still valid. A few things with regard to prices / quality have changed, though. The Tayuan Lu scene is pitiful now compared to 2-3 years ago; last few months only older women or fairly fat / unattractive ladies at the BBS there. There used to be some 5'0 southeast Asian looking girl from Xiamen who was really skinny and petite but with big boobs who worked there. I also remember the one near Yunhe Lu and Yushan Lu used to have one shop full of girls with huge see-DD cups and slim waists eager for business only 150 RMB; now that particular shop is closed completely and the rest of the BBS in that area are heavily under-trafficked with only 1 girl between 5 shops who shows up in the afternoon. By contrast, the area near Emerald City used to be kinda terrible with horror-movie esque rooms and girls with horrific hygiene, bitchy, and poor use of cosmetics. Nowadays it's really nice and consistently high quality.

These girls usually don't stay in those types of careers for very long, with the exception of dance hall girls. If you find one you like, milk it while you can because on average she's probably going to be gone in like 3 weeks.

I'd really like to check out some areas near Southeast Suzhou in Wuzhong district; I know some of the hot regulars from the Yushan lu and Yunhe Lu BBS strip moved to a red light area over there but I can't really go check it out.

[California8]

Hey guys,

I've not been mongering for a while (GF and all that), but I have a few relatively recent reviews and spots new Suzhou dwellers might appreciate.

Thanks CCNWater. This is the type of report I appreciate. Covers lots of different options for different mongers' tastes and has enough detail to find each place. I have no immediate plans for Suzhou but when I go, I will bring your report. Kudos.

Cal8.

[Onojdi]

Thanks for the report.

The spa that is near the Fenhu Lu station, is it on the Zhuyuan Rd? And do you pay upfront for the service that you want or during the "massage" you bargain directly with the girl for extra service? Last question. What type are the rooms? I mean basic bed in dirty room, normal room with standard shower or spa kind of rooms with Jacuzzi I have been in different situations and found that environment is not related to the level of service but still curious about it.

[CoconutWater89]

Hey guys,

I've not been mongering for a while (GF and all that), but I have a few relatively recent reviews and spots new Suzhou dwellers might appreciate.

1.) The dance hall near Leqiao Station 888 Gan Jiang Lu (forgot the name): Very good. There are some truly breathtaking specimens in here and the male competition is pitiful. If you are remotely not disgusting / elderly they'll be thrilled if you ask for a dance. From what I've sussed out, there are a handful of girls who are employed "by the house" so to speak and have an obligated schedule. Then there are a few girls who just pay the normal entrance fee. The girls in the former category want 30 RMB per dance. A lot of them are extremely beautiful 8 or 9/10's. I never tried to get anything extra, but was propositioned by one early 30's girl who was just okay. Definitely strongly recommended. No soap in the bathroom which is quite gross for a tightly packed place. Turnover also seems remarkably low; you'll see the same crowd and they'll get to know foreigners with distinct appearances.

There is one girl here who speaks perfect English and works a real job at a foreign company during the week and spends some time on the weekends for extra money. She will find you if you look remotely western, no need to look. She can pick out Japanese / Koreans somehow too. She told me a lot about the place and the girls; most girls are pulling in 300-700 rmb per day! The very top end ones there are averaging over 1 k and have some 2 k days. The tall one with the enormous fake boobs has many 2 k RMB days every week.

2.) MeiMei Dance hall: Only went here once, it kinda sucked. Very smoky indoors, lighting sucks and it's hard to see the girls even during the fast songs. I went on a weekday afternoon and there were about 2 very pretty girls. I picked an older and very curvy one. She had an extremely think country accent in Chinese I couldn't understand. She tried to have me pull out my phone so she could tell me, but literally couldn't write in pinyin despite being under 35. Let me get away with a lot more than the girls at the Leqiao station one. I'd say the probability of getting some action quickly is much higher here though.

3.) The "pink lights" near Donghuan lu station: How do you find this? Exit the donghuan lu station in the direction of Fengmen Lu. I forgot which exit, but you're walking south on the west side of the road as if you were headed to the SuDa campus near fengmen lu. Anyway, you'll see a sign near an Alley advertising massages with English. It's literally sticking out of the ground. The very next alley after that has a small pink light district. It is an absolute ghetto craphole, one of the poorest, grossest, and trash filled places in the area. The girl quality there is very low and mixed. There's a handful of hotties; all of them refused foreigners. They were asking for 300 RMB. Really shitty rooms and no showers. I'd have trouble fucking most of the girls there with somebody else's dick, but there's a handful of gems who will probably tell you to go away if you're not Asian.

4.) The street opposite "Super steak" at the Yunhe Lu and Yushan Lu intersection in SND. This was my favorite place. Girl quality is much higher than the donghuan lu one, and prices are literally only 150 RMB. There are a handful of not so good girls, but also a handful of devastatingly hot girls. On the west side of this street there are 3 shops with super hot girls; they usually turn me away and say no foreigners or "tai the LE! But I had a few who obliged. If you're Asian looking you or got a smaller unit you could have a real field day here. Some of the hotter girls can be bitchy, pushy, or hurried which kinda kills the experience. On the east side nearest the intersection, the girl quality is a bit lower but still hot. A handful of these girls were extremely friendly and I actually became friends with more than one of them and hung out outside of work / got an occasional freebie / went out for a meal etc. Laoban is a relatively chill old dude too. Traffic has been surprisingly low here. Turnover for girls is pretty high, but there are a handful of late 20's / early 30's old veterans. They all do covered BJ and FS. Rooms are great, girls shower + brush teeth regularly, lots of space.

5.) The area right next to Emerald City. This was my second favorite. In contrast to the previous 2, there seems to be a lot more activity at night and relatively quiet during the day. You won't see girls in windows most of the time, but rather you'll have to follow one of the 3-4 mama-sans trolling around. One of the mamas is pretty damn hot, but off the menu. Girl quality is consistently very high here, but rooms are a little bit crappy / cramped. Prices are always 300, but I've gotten some down to 200 for repeat visits and had one girl give a free round 2.

6.) 3 Massage parlours: The first is near the Fenhu Lu station west across the street from the foreign language school. It's got a big bright pink light that says "spa". This one is weird. Turnover is high, girls sometimes give covered BJ for 300, sometimes just HJ, sometimes will ask for more for FS. Usually pretty hot girls though.

The next 2: Jinfeng Lu station, exit near the vanguard and KFC. Keep walking past the vanguard and there are 2 massage places right next to each other. A lot of variance here too; some beauties, some awful 40 year old chubby country girls. Service is always massage+HJ. Had some of the worst and best here.

One last piece of advice: Height is a big deal for men and women in China. I'm an average height western guy. I've found that taller Chinese girls (5'7+), even the ones who aren't so pretty, are usually not the greatest providers. Even among non-pros, they are kinda stuck up and have an inflated self esteem. Shorter girls, even if they are extremely hot, seem to behave like they're 2-3 points lower than they actually are! The girls who gave the best service / gave freebies / wanted to hang out outside of work were literally always well below average height. I think they're somewhat ignored by Chinese guys who consider tall to be beautiful. The tall girls are kinda just sick of it and their pussies are sore so they kinda want to get it over with. I think you might be surprised how much traffic a tall but average looking girl gets compared with a short prettier girl might get.

[Lemurian]

Any chance the windy weather will spill over to Suzhou?

Yes; partially happened already. Be careful!

[Onojdi]

Thanks Wabbittt, much appreciated!

Because of the storm at Shanghai maybe I'll prefer to visit some of the Suzhou places before the trip to my favorite city. Sadly I'll be only one night at Suzhou and at the same time I want to try both New Baishen and Sea Gold Spa. Maybe one at the evening and one in the next day. Do you know when they start working? This reminds me of one very funny visit to a Hong Kong MP at 10 AM but it is a different story.

Can you help me with a little bit more info? Do they offer full service or Nury / Oil massage? Or just regular not so good massage with a happy BJ ending? One more thing. The last time when I was in Shanghai I got some strange "extra" called fire & ice massage. I have no idea how the girl do it but it was very unique experience. She do some tricks with her mouth including ice and hot water or something like that. I was thinking to try it again in Shanghai but I just read that there is a serious storm right now and its better to go to Hangzou or Suzhou. I did not find much info at the Hangzou forum so I'm pleasantly surprised that there is 2 MP in Suzhou. Both of them know thanks to you, so a very big thank you from me.

[Beijing4987]

Any chance the windy weather will spill over to Suzhou?

[Wabbittt]

Here's a photo of the new 'New Baishen' place. It's at the left-hand end of bloc of shops.

[Wabbittt]

It seems that the 'New Baishen' spa has had to move temporarily as the area it was in is being re-developed. Fortunately, my contact there gave me the new address and, while it's a bit of a trek, it's well worth it as, in addition to the original Baishen girls, there are some stunning new ones who also make the journey very much worthwhile. The new address is as follows:

也21487;20197;26159;19996;21556;4南36335;1255号.

地38081;31449;24212;35813;26159;21040;28548;28246;36335;19979;.

Dongwu South Road, No. 1255, Opposite Suzhou Kangli Hospital.

If you take the subway, aim for Shinhu Donglu Subway Station (Line 4) and take Exit 1. The place in question is at the left-hand end of a block of shops. On entering, and exchanging your shoes for the inevitable sandals, you need to go up the stairs to access the changing rooms and spa area. The massage rooms are on the next floor up. The staff there are vey welcoming although I get the impression that they have never encountered lǎowàI before.

[Jay Bird]

Throwing a question out there, do any of you guys.

Have experience of the happenings and prices at and around the pink lighted windows / doorways just of Dong Huan Lu.

Is the area dangerous from police and or pimps, what are the prices, what's on offer?

I'd guess it would be very low rent experience but an experience all the same, some of girls looked pretty decent.

Thanks guys.

Kinky,

Prices for such service should be 150-200 RMB. The better your Chinese the lower the price.

Area would not be dangerous, as soon as the Mama's feel something's wrong they'll close the door. They have commections.

Could you share the location with us? Where in Dong Huan Lu?

[Kinky Ginge]

Been in Suzhou a few years, but up until last week I have avoided the Elephant due to the negative reviews. Given the reviews expectation was pretty low, so I was presently surprised with the service.

The place isn't opulent but it is clean and tidy, the girl pretty decent looking with a nice figure.

Not the best service I've had, but very agreeable.

A little pricey at 390 something rmb.

80 minutes that weren't clock watched or rushed, the service peaking in the middle between flips and the massage continuing for 30 minutes until time was up. Roaming was encouraged, which was nice.

For me the place didn't live down to its poor feedback, I could have been luck with the girl I suppose? It is all subjective and down to personal taste, but I would go back.

[Pushkin13]

Recently moved here to Suzhou indefinitely for work. Looking for escort for hotel meet-ups, new to this scene. Would appreciate guidance!

1. Learn Chinese.

2. Go to bars and make friends.

3. Using a dating / contact app. WECHAT might be your best bet! Use the "look around" function.

4. Enjoy and report.

P13.