Bangkok Reports

[Syzygies]

Also, the last time I was in Crazy House about two weeks ago, the girls were still pulling their "tequila and coke" non-existent single cocktail bit in order to scam the customer into buying them two Lady Drinks from the get go instead of just one. When the girl asks you to buy her a "tequila and coke", that is two Lady Drinks, not one mixed cocktail. Already being aware of this particular scam, I caught it immediately with my girl and said, "No, just one Lady Drink for now". But my buddy fell for it with his girl and I felt bad that I had not warned him about it before we went into CH. There are just so many Lady Drink hustle scams you can review and warn against beforehand and it seems Crazy House is the prime testing zone for the go-go girls and servers to try anything and everything to pull the latest, newest, scammiest ones.

Obviously the girls are trained to ask for two drinks, and supposedly not having the skills to explain it to the customer. LOL Obviously any bar goer with experience knows there is no such thing as a tequila-coke mixed drink. The girls like to have both. Tequila helps relief their shyness, but they still need something else for hydration and thirst quenching, which could be just plain water they can get at the counter if they need it.

So for sure buy them just tequilas, or just soft if they are a girl who does no alcohol.

Newbies will probably only fall for the trick once, when they see that two drinks arrive for the girl. I always show a finger to indicate 1 drink to the waitress just in case she can't hear me properly in the din. So I say "one tequila for the girl" point to her and raise the one finger to make sure the waitress gets it. You can't let girls order from the waitress directly unless they are well trained by yourself.

Obviously I still like CH even if visit not so often any more. The line up is quite variable. Good some days, bad other days. Can't beat it for skinny natural looking naked girls here in Bangkok (mostly Issan of course), so contrary to what BB says, it is still one of the least boring bars for me. The worst part of CH, is the shows intended to help fat and ugly girls make some money. I switch off totally if they come on. I don't need to be treated like a king, but the staff do look after me a bit special. The girls that I take form CH as regulars are enthusiastic on the bed and can do GFE which is a lot better than what I typically get from freelancers. The difference is my girls prefer farangs. For me they are much sexier looking than typical MP girls.

I have been attending Shark a bit which has some nice looking girls (very few in the non Coyote section). It is definitely a much more boring bar. Girls are over-dressed. Cannot tell if Coyotes have decent tits or not. I hate the trend to Coyote outfits and over-priced barfines for Coyotes, yet the Coyote girls hardly know how to be a real "Coyote". So I call them fake "Coyotes". I have attended Twisters and Billboard a bit in Nana but apart from one or two very lucky picks (that were regulars for a time till they moved on), have struggled to find really good girls in there. I have no regular girls in Nana Plaza at present. No regular street walkers, and not even any regular MP girls at this time. My last favourites moved on.

Maybe today I will feel like walking past those BJ shops to see if have any cuties, and check a few MPs. Had not been in an MP at all for last few weeks. My mongering has dropped off severely, just doing regular girls known for a long time, including one girl previously done 5 years ago (but still in good nick). LOL

[EihTooms]

They maybe quick to bring you a drink but disinclined to bring change after paying bill. You have to get serious with them to get change back. So now I carry plenty of small currency (exact change) so as not to play that little game. I don't like problems.

Also, the last time I was in Crazy House about two weeks ago, the girls were still pulling their "tequila and coke" non-existent single cocktail bit in order to scam the customer into buying them two Lady Drinks from the get go instead of just one. When the girl asks you to buy her a "tequila and coke", that is two Lady Drinks, not one mixed cocktail. Already being aware of this particular scam, I caught it immediately with my girl and said, "No, just one Lady Drink for now". But my buddy fell for it with his girl and I felt bad that I had not warned him about it before we went into CH. There are just so many Lady Drink hustle scams you can review and warn against beforehand and it seems Crazy House is the prime testing zone for the go-go girls and servers to try anything and everything to pull the latest, newest, scammiest ones.

[Banana Boi]

They maybe quick to bring you a drink but disinclined to bring change after paying bill. You have to get serious with them to get change back. So now I carry plenty of small currency (exact change) so as not to play that little game. I don't like problems.

I had this happen to me at CH too. Had to chase the waitress for my change. It was a fairly significant amount too. The only other time in well over 1000 gogo bar visits this happened was at Windmill in Pattaya. Waitress didn't bring back around 700 baht and went to hide. I was close with mamasan at the time and mamasan chased her down and gave her the third degree.

Just my opinion that CH is the absolute worst gogo bar there is. They don't give a shit about a customer cause guys keep coming. Almost every CH visit something happens like when the mamasan turned into the devil after I said no to barfining a girl. She had only sat with me fro about 10 minutes and I she was only on her second drink. This club is the worst imho. I'll take my money to Pattaya gogo bars where I am treated like a King.

[EihTooms]

Has anyone had a threesome where you DIDN'T have to change the condom when you switched to the other girl's vagina?

Yes. I did not have to do that in The Philippines, the USA, Mexico, Hong Kong, Vietnam, etc. because I was involved in threesomes with two girls who did not require me to wear a condom in the first place. Even though this was several years ago for me, I have a hunch the conditions would be the same in, say, the Philippines as it was for me 15-20 years ago at perhaps the height of the heterosexual HIV hysteria-inspired condomania. Thailand was simply indoctrinated about and terrorized into wearing condoms in ways other countries were not and the lingering effects of that have held on longer than other places.

[EihTooms]

They are ugly and annoying. However, if guys would stop paying for their services, they would not be there. I blame the guys who take those kind of girls for that trash cluttering up the streets.

As the saying goes, One Man's Meat is Another Man's Poison. Of the three African girls I tried (and paid), two were aborted missions because they were so bad in bed for me and only one delivered a decent BBBJ+CIM that we agreed upon. That is no worse a rate of success for me than in some of the most highly touted so-called PSE oilies I read glowing reviews about on these pages. And the African girls I chose were far and away younger with better bodies and sexier faces than most of the Thai girls I have seen in those shops.

I have little doubt that the many "2-Minute Men" who travel to Bangkok and find themselves fighting to hold back their first of 3 hoped for pops in 90 minutes while the lady is merely soaping up her own hands in the shower at some of those shops would have been delighted with what I found worthy of aborting within 15 minutes with those African girls.

Similar to what Goatscrot posted, I see extremely ugly Thai freelancers who still to this day call out and reach out to me as I walk past them. I have never taken them, never seen any other man taking them and yet they have been standing or strolling around the area for years. I have no idea where their money comes from or why they still hang around. But there they are. And now I am seeing the same inexplicable thing happening with the extremely ugly African girls out there.

[Dinotrex]

I feel the same way about many facets of the industry these days. When I hit the PSE oilies all I see is old gals or gals who have terrible mommy body. No matter how good the performance is there is just no way I'm going to pay for that. Don't understand why anyone would. As long as guys settle for this crap, it is going to be what is on offer. Same holds true with the bad attitudes you see from lookers at overpriced GoGo bars.

Very interesting. What does consensus say about this? Girls who are really into what they're doing with great attitudes but slightly poor physical shape? Or hot looking face and body who lay there like a dead fish? Of course in a perfect world you'd want the whole package, but who can tell without testing the goods first?

Personally I'd chose slightly bad physique with a good attitude and one who really gets into it. Even if she's faking and putting on a good show.

[Goatscrot]

They are ugly and annoying. However, if guys would stop paying for their services, they would not be there. I blame the guys who take those kind of girls for that trash cluttering up the streets.

I feel the same way about many facets of the industry these days. When I hit the PSE oilies all I see is old gals or gals who have terrible mommy body. No matter how good the performance is there is just no way I'm going to pay for that. Don't understand why anyone would. As long as guys settle for this crap, it is going to be what is on offer. Same holds true with the bad attitudes you see from lookers at overpriced GoGo bars.

[Houston Player]

The solution is to use female condoms.

[AmericanThief]

Has anyone had a threesome where you DIDN'T have to change the condom when you switched to the other girl's vagina? In my experience everytime I want to penetrate the second girl they stop me and want to change the condom. Even in the mouth the girl wants to use a wet wipe on me before she starts sucking. Please provide name of any place that won't do this.

[Smoothy]

Is there more than normal in this area? In my previous trips here, it seemed they were mainly around the darker inbetween area from Soi 4 to Soi Cowboy. Now they're clustered right in front of my hotel and all along Soi 4 and they're very aggressive at times. Clearly look away and they still try and step in front of you and grab your arm. I have yet to see one that I thought was hot and even attractive. Very annoying.

They are ugly and annoying. However, if guys would stop paying for their services, they would not be there. I blame the guys who take those kind of girls for that trash cluttering up the streets.

[Paolo99]

You have to get serious with them to get change back. So now I carry plenty of small currency (exact change) so as not to play that little game. I don't like problems.

The twenty and fifty notes are the most precious in Thailand. I always keep a lot of them during my trips and use them only for taxis, bars, small restaurants and tip for restaurants or traditional massage girls.

[JesseJames]

Agree but a customer should never accept wait staff to pull you by the arm and drag you to the only open table left in the corner of the bar where you can't see shit. This happened at the 3 second mark. Then when I decided to leave instead of sitting in a corner I tried to walk out but it happened to be when the girls were rotating to do their stage standing. I am not rude so didn't push my way through the girls but the waitress pushed me in to the girls to get my out of CH. This happened after maybe about 30 seconds after I entered the bar. I am anything but a freeloader in bars. You clearly get good service at CH since you are a regular. The agressiveness at CH is annoying imo. Maybe I'm just a laid back Pattaya gogo guy. I don't tolerate rude pushy wait staff.

They maybe quick to bring you a drink but disinclined to bring change after paying bill. You have to get serious with them to get change back. So now I carry plenty of small currency (exact change) so as not to play that little game. I don't like problems.

[SexInStl]

Agree but a customer should never accept wait staff to pull you by the arm and drag you to the only open table left in the corner of the bar where you can't see shit. This happened at the 3 second mark. Then when I decided to leave instead of sitting in a corner I tried to walk out but it happened to be when the girls were rotating to do their stage standing. I am not rude so didn't push my way through the girls but the waitress pushed me in to the girls to get my out of CH. This happened after maybe about 30 seconds after I entered the bar. I am anything but a freeloader in bars. You clearly get good service at CH since you are a regular. The agressiveness at CH is annoying imo. Maybe I'm just a laid back Pattaya gogo guy. I don't tolerate rude pushy wait staff.

I just calmly nod no.

Even when they try and grab my arm, I just politely move it away and point anywhere away from them as to where I'm going.

Usually, I'm just going to walk through at first to see if it's worth staying for, or if there's anyone there I'm trying to NOT see, but that isn't in THEIR best interest.

But I always make my own choice as to if I want to sit or not.

The key is just to remain calm and be polite and just firmly let them know that isn't where you want to go.

As I say, pointing toward the stairs and saying "Upstairs" or pointing toward the bathroom and saying "Toilet" (even if neither is your destination) goes a long ways toward them leaving you alone as well.

It's all just a part of the way.

[Banana Boi]

Bars offer drink service fairly promptly in all bars. They don't intend you to come in for free.

Agree but a customer should never accept wait staff to pull you by the arm and drag you to the only open table left in the corner of the bar where you can't see shit. This happened at the 3 second mark. Then when I decided to leave instead of sitting in a corner I tried to walk out but it happened to be when the girls were rotating to do their stage standing. I am not rude so didn't push my way through the girls but the waitress pushed me in to the girls to get my out of CH. This happened after maybe about 30 seconds after I entered the bar. I am anything but a freeloader in bars. You clearly get good service at CH since you are a regular. The agressiveness at CH is annoying imo. Maybe I'm just a laid back Pattaya gogo guy. I don't tolerate rude pushy wait staff.

[JackRow]

Back to Bangkok couple of days back. Ventured into soi cowboy again. This started little early around 8 pm, relatively less crowd. Most of the hot picks were available, which are generally occupied by 9 or 10. First entered spice girls and picked a hot looking girl. Apparently, I was not aware that I picked up a coyote. Off sudden my beer and lady drink costed me 900 bhat. She was hot and nice dance moves. But tipping her was minimum 100 bhat. She was not accepting anything below this. Within 10 minutes she finished her drink and made an excuse to run outside. I think most of the coyotes are for attracting the mongers and not really for longtime entertainment. I asked bar fine for coyote and her reply was "3000 bhat bar fine" and for whole night "8000 bhat". Not ready for negotiation at all.

Finished my beer and they went out to Afterskool. Now between expats I met, everyone has their own opinion about Afterskool. I personally liked it for two main reasons not crowded, and quick fun within the bar. Service of the girls is very good. Had beer and took two girls with lady drinks. One of them could speak impeccable English. She used work at one of the international chain hotels in Bangkok and has recently joined Afterskool. She introduced me to "Naughty boy" corner in Afterskool. At the end of the bar a small sitting area which finally meets the make room and toilet. This area is called as "Naughty boy corner". For 500 bhat you can get HJ or BJ for 1000 bhat right in the bar. I was quite thrilled and went for BJ in the club. It was nearly 9:30 and only one more customer was there. Who gave me thumbs up and went outside. Got my cock out cleaned it with wet wipes and I was getting a HJ and BJ in the open. Two girls came near us kind of like hiding our act, one was facing opposite side and other was facing me and smiling. It was kind of erotic and I was turned on by the whole experience. Never have I done it in public or in front of others. She doing a good job but don't expect it to be like in one on one session, like going on knees or lying down nothing like that. You both seat on the couch and she will bend down to give BJ and HJ simultaneously. Came in 15 minutes and was happy. Cleaned myself and went back to my original place. Offered her another lady drink. Asked her for bar fine but she declined as she doesn't do anything outside the bar. There was one more girl with curly hair who had amazing figure with perfect tits. She came a little late while I was in action. However she was only serving drinks and not participating in any action. All in all, I liked afterskool was there till 10 pm and saw atleast 4 more expats going to naught boy corner. If you want to experience something new then this is a good option. Don't expect very hot girls but service wise it is good.