German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Jmioffe]

I see repeated references to Weinstein and others of his ilk in some sort of victimhood strain, followed by condescending reference to some random feminist. First of all, these guys were absolute scumbags and were not victims of any kind whatsoever. They got what was coming to them and the only shame is that it took so long to flush them out. Secondly, conflating the disgusting and illegal behavior of these louts with the perfectly legal and generally respectful actions of majority of mongers makes no sense. Thirdly, the people claiming that US or other locations are no longer safe for sex is not true. If you got game, you can still score. No game? Then fly and pay.

I'd just like to express my agreement with your first point, that Weinstein and his ilk are contemptible. Most of the personalities I usually meet in FKKs are mild-mannered "nice" guys that just aren't as successful with women as they'd like to be. I think the fact that the clientele mostly consists of these types makes the job less of a nightmare than many outside of this world would believe it to be. But every once in awhile, I meet an FKK client who is working out some real anger and entitlement issues about women, and I imagine those guys are more likely to identify with Weinstein than condemn him.

I agree with your second point too, that it's wrong to conflate FKK-goers with these guys. To my point about the mild-mannered making up most of the FKK clients, I think a lot of the clientele is made up of guys who have trouble with the intricacies of interacting with women, don't have it in themselves to be the douchebags that usually win the hot chicks, and are better able to grok the idea of exchanging services for money. Unfortunately, I can see outsiders having trouble with this, and viewing it all under the rubric of female exploitation.

About your third point, I'm not sure I understand, but I echo the sentiment expressed elsewhere in this thread -- I'd never do this in the USA, because the legal consequences seem considerable, and the cultural backlash and societal penalty seems much stronger here. I have friends who have done it, and swear that third-party verification makes it super-safe, but even if you avoid the long arm of the law, you still leave yourself open for blackmail because of how sexually conservative the USA Is. [edit: Jnpr30 explained, I get it]

[Member #4581]

I appreciate your comment, I admit that I didn't quite understand "safe for sex" regarding USA. A clarification would be nice.

Thanks McA. He is quite accurate in his read of my intent and my comment.

BTW, there was this experienced monger, forgot his name (Wanker88 or some such moniker) who wrote extensively during the summer and I think he mongered a lot in the US. I am a wuss and have chickened from doing any such thing but our summer friend assured us it was quite safe.

In any case, there are now dozens of sex dating sites. I saw one such site which shows hundreds of pretty girls (and their actual photos and what they will do and what they need) in 50 miles radius from me. That's just one. There are several more, all of them looking to match sugar daddies with their sugar babies. Anyone tried them?

Here is one link.

The NYT article is dated.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/12/ma...daddies-t.html

But this Atlantic piece is more recent.

https://www.theatlantic.com/educatio...cation/379533/

Remember how all the FKK girls claim to be studying in some university? Per this Atlantic article, and Atlantic is a pretty reputed publication, these are girls from NYU Colombia, and Princeton! Princeton for god’s sake. And the amounts mentioned are not huge, ranging from a few hundreds to a few thousands. Many of the high rollers on this site are spending far more, I bet. But then some are the kind that BadIn talked of - men with several millions in bank. One guy just gave his credit card to his sugar baby. Hmm. That needs a lot of guts.

Bottomline: pay for sex happens here in the US, safely and abundantly, especially under more nuanced formats and more sophisticated branding.

[Smoke Light]

Jnpr30 wrote that USA is "safe for sex". He never wrote that USA is safe for mongering. So it appears that you are disagreeing with something that he never wrote. Of course, I am sure he will clarify.

I appreciate your comment, I admit that I didn't quite understand "safe for sex" regarding USA. A clarification would be nice.

[Wanking]

Watched Wonder woman earlier, terrible movie, although the star Gal Gadot is a stunning lady.

I thought it was amusing that Wonder woman and her amazonian sisters all had accents very similar to the Romanian ladies of hoormany.

https://youtu.be/VSB4wGIdDwo

[McAdonis]

Jnpr30,

I respectfully disagree. There is a separate ISG forum dedicated to American women, but the reason mongers travel outside of the US is personal safety, security, and privacy. If you mongering in the US and caught by police you ruin your life. US is a horrible and stressful place for mongering. I am afraid your statement could mislead people to think otherwise.

Jnpr30 wrote that USA is "safe for sex". He never wrote that USA is safe for mongering. So it appears that you are disagreeing with something that he never wrote. Of course, I am sure he will clarify.

[Mr Ho]

Nah it's not just Weinstein. I've seen this coming a mile away. US will be female dominate in a few decades. Then all of western nations. Capitalism prefer women than men, they spend more and are more easily manipulated to pay for overpriced clothes that's made in China.

As a man in the era, invest and save and spend your money outside of the United States. Too many men getting suckered into marriages still and feeding the female dictate.

Right on buddy, we got Germany, Brazil, Austria and Zurich etc LOL.

Above we got many wife for few hours and our wives are all young and never change as we change LOL.

[Smoke Light]

Thirdly, the people claiming that US or other locations are no longer safe for sex is absolutely not true. The reason mongers fly out to Germany or other places is because they don't have the game to snag chicks of that quality unless they pay.

Jnpr30,

I respectfully disagree. There is a separate ISG forum dedicated to American women, but the reason mongers travel outside of the US is personal safety, security, and privacy. If you mongering in the US and caught by police you ruin your life. US is a horrible and stressful place for mongering. I am afraid your statement could mislead people to think otherwise.

[Member #4581]

I see repeated references to Weinstein and others of his ilk in some sort of victimhood strain, followed by condescending reference to some random feminist. First of all, these guys were absolute scumbags and were not victims of any kind whatsoever. They got what was coming to them and the only shame is that it took so long to flush them out. Secondly, conflating the disgusting and illegal behavior of these louts with the perfectly legal and generally respectful actions of majority of mongers makes no sense. Thirdly, the people claiming that US or other locations are no longer safe for sex is not true. If you got game, you can still score. No game? Then fly and pay.

[Pistons]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-kebab-a-goner

So what do you guys think will be the consequences for this if it goes like it seems? What will all the 50 000 Turks and Arabs working in kebabs across Germany do for work instead? And will this mean more Turkish pimping? Or less Turkish clients?

[AznHotBoy]

LOL Weinstein spoilt for all of us LOL.

No worry, we still got FKK among other venues around the world, all we got to do is to find it and go there.

Professional mongers always find the way, still we crawl LOL.

Nah it's not just Weinstein. I've seen this coming a mile away. US will be female dominate in a few decades. Then all of western nations. Capitalism prefer women than men, they spend more and are more easily manipulated to pay for overpriced clothes that's made in China.

As a man in the era, invest and save and spend your money outside of the United States. Too many men getting suckered into marriages still and feeding the female dictate.

[PussyLiccker]

Illusions in clubs have pretty died off over the years. WGs have great recall ability based on a guy's spending.

I've met some of the newer young girls that have visual attraction of muscular guys, although the girl will admit it for her for her friend, but noooo, not her. LOL. Let's be realistic, these are girls in their around 20's dealing with bunch of middle aged guys in clubs with disposable income that they'd wouldn't have a chance with such young girls outside the clubs.

Over a span of visits to various clubs, with young guys in attendance, you do see certain girls act differently to certain younger guys, which shows these girls haven't reached the level of pro professionism that has no discrimination of what guys they serve to, which their sensitivity lowers as they experience various types of men.

One instance, an older gentleman pointed out a girl, that she likes to go with young guys, and rejects older men. So, there is subject-ability with certain girls in various clubs, although there are plenty that money matters most, or look for the easy clients.

Although, one may think a girl has feeling for you, you'd really have to look inside in your spending relationship with her, and also keep in mind how generally she interacts with other men, and that girls generally say what you'd like to hear. Most men, don't know beyond their personal interaction with the girl. Some girls are generally very agreeable and friendly.

I've also ran into girls that tells me particular special things about me to up the illusion a lot, and also fluids coming out of her vag claiming she's excited, but this was really that she's one of those types that generally get's wet during sessions. Look outside the box.

[Rogue Nation]

Well, if you feel you are getting the emotion, does it even matter if you are getting played? Angelina Jolie is a good actor, but she is only playing. Neither way, we still love some of her movies.

Between feeling the emotion and wanting to feel the emotion and ignoring reality there's a difference. Many men don't mint getting played, obviously.

[Mr Ho]

Investing in nightclubs are more of a gamble than a sound investment, much like restaurant businesses. Investing in those things requires a huge amount of knowledge, work, and dedication to make it, and some luck to make it a hit. There are much safer investments out there with returns much out weighing the "free" auditions. But I believe those "free" audition days are over or at least is over in the States. Now they'll give you the audition, then take the job for awhile and sue you for sexual harassment when you least expect, most likely look for a fat settlement, or even come for ownership of you successful nightclub. All of this takes place in civil court where absolute evidence isn't required and it all comes down to who is more believable. Nah I'll just hope interest rate will be at a healthy level when I hit my 10 million! LOL!

LOL Weinstein spoilt for all of us LOL.

No worry, we still got FKK among other venues around the world, all we got to do is to find it and go there.

Professional mongers always find the way, still we crawl LOL.

[Akibono]

Well, if you feel you are getting the emotion, does it even matter if you are getting played? Angelina Jolie is a good actor, but she is only playing. Neither way, we still love some of her movies.

The pay for talking is foolish though. But it is like you say, they subsidize the rest of us.

Why rely on the girl? Just think you look like Brad Pitt and have tons of money so all girls can't wait to fuck you and are so horny. All you have to do is convince yourself that the girl has feelings for you.

[Mr Ho]

Yes. Definitely. There are a lot of Paris Hiltons out there: young, pretty and super rich waiting to marry well traveled mongers with worn out dicks. Well, Paris is no longer that young or pretty, so scratch that one.

I bet your currency with them will appreciate if you wait till you are 50. They like it better the older and more weathered the monger is. Like fine wine.

PS. The Samya girl in the photo on this page has an amazing bod.

Paris Hilton make her own millions buddy LOL.

Other girls make nothing but spend your money, and take half of million if you or she divorce LOL.