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12-10-17 16:30 #9095
Posts: 6476Originally Posted by MyTwoInches [View Original Post]
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12-10-17 16:12 #9094
Posts: 2994Originally Posted by Jnpr30 [View Original Post]
https://jezebel.com/5955918/some-thi...e-a-prostitute
It wouldn't work for most guys who like the FKKs.
It is expensive, there is little or no anonymity, and there is definitely no club atmosphere where a guy meets many women and selects a few. Decisions are largely made by reading reviews and learning whose reviews you can trust.
Essentially, the key is for her to make sure the customer is not a cop or a dangerous person (which is done through screening that often includes his presence on review boards, and references), and of course for him to make sure she isn't a cop or a dangerous rip-off flake, which is most often done by reading her reviews, seeing who else the reviewer has reviewed, and seeing how she advertises. If she isn't a cop, and the customer isn't a cop, and if they are fornicating in a private place such as a hotel room or incall apartment that has no risk of police intrusion, there is really no risk.
Not exactly an ideal system, and of course most stray from it. But if you review arrests and busts, they almost never involve independent escorts who screen or a very small agency operating in a local area that screens and doesn't go overboard on publicly advertising. But for those that want to feel completely safe, nothing is safer than an expensive independent escort who does a lot of screening. The cops in the USA Leave those ladies alone.
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12-10-17 14:07 #9093
Posts: 2073Originally Posted by Jnpr30 [View Original Post]
I suppose Bitcoin is becoming a viable investment option (that both earns yield and is difficult for tax authorities to track). I would argue that is easier and safer to hide and transfer than say a safe filled with cash.
Romanians seem to have a different mindset when it comes to saving. Its hard for someone from a stable rich western nation to judge. Triple digit inflation back in the 1990's, high-levels of corruption and unemployment is just not our reality. Perhaps their mindset is to spend their money and enjoy it before the next time their government fails them. Also, we are talking about emigrants here. Disproportionate spending on visible goods and "conspicuous consumerism" tend to be higher in these communities.
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12-10-17 10:27 #9092
Posts: 6476Correction.
Originally Posted by McAdonis [View Original Post]
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12-10-17 09:27 #9091
Posts: 625Making a lot of money leads to spending a lot of money for many girls. Taxi instead of public transportation, hotel instead of apartment, restaurant instead of home cooking, Prada instead of H&M.
There's "boyfriends" who take their girls out shopping to make them spend their money. So they have to stay and work. That's the money left after they paid their daily share of 300-500€. A strategy that works out for many guys.
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12-10-17 04:39 #9090
Posts: 1163Originally Posted by Jnpr30 [View Original Post]
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12-10-17 02:06 #9089
Posts: 1517Originally Posted by RogueNation [View Original Post]
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12-10-17 01:32 #9088
Posts: 410While "sugar daddy" system vs. "if you have game you can score" vs. "FKK" system often come up in the same dialog, the fundamental differences between them take root in the legality of each model.
"Sugar daddy" presents itself as a "relationship" system. It quickly stockpiles attributes like credit cards, expensive gifts (jewelry, cars), apartment rent payments, paid education expenses, and so on. Because relationships are legal, and prostitution is not.
"If you have game you can score" is a "relationship" by its definition. Legal with potential further allegations of sexual abuse, "MeToo" posts and more. Good luck with your game, gentlemen!
The FKK however, or any brothel, or a chica bar, are "sex fantasy" systems. Real physical non-virtual sex, because prostitution is legal. Never in my life a web site and jumping hoops to meet a girl can compete with a cohort of WGs sitting on the opposite couch in an FKK club. It's a land of pleasure incompatible with any relationship-based systems.
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12-10-17 00:16 #9087
Posts: 1517Originally Posted by McAdonis [View Original Post]
Then in a follow up reply, I brought up paid monger sex (which Mongerer88 and others said is generally safe in the US), and then I also brought up the sugar daddy stuff.
IMO those NYT and Atlantic mag articles should be read as providing some idea and outline but I am not sure we should read them literally. The thing to understand is that people try to get around the taboo and legal issues related to prostitution in the US through a variety of loopholes. For me, the takeaway was that pay for sex is not illegal if the sex is combined with something else -- companionship, a small unrelated service... you are paying for the something else part and the sex is incidental. When you can't have open FKK systems as in Germany, people get creative. But other than that, I would n't read too much else. If you take a quick look at the girls in a few of those sites, they are all over the place looking for a quick casual encounter to monthly allowance to a shopping spree or two or a travel to some nice location and what not. The only difference between these sites and a site like match.com is that girls understand sex is on the table within first few meetings and that there is explicit money for sex exchange.
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12-09-17 22:50 #9086
Posts: 625Originally Posted by Jnpr30 [View Original Post]
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12-09-17 22:34 #9085
Posts: 2073Originally Posted by Jnpr30 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Jnpr30 [View Original Post]
One sugar baby noted that most of the men she met on the dating site were business executives, whereas FKK customers can come from almost any walk of life.
The article paints the picture that these rich men are looking for intellect, not a skinny, white, blonde sorority bimbo. Many men who attend FKK want this exclusively.
The author says the sugar daddies want sugar babies that understand what they do at work and can converse on topics that the sugar daddy finds interesting. In that sense, it makes, the illusion more real for the sugar daddy. I don't think most FKK customers want a smart girl to connect with intellectually. These WGs are street-smart and emotionally-smart, but not always book smart. Often, their English allows them to communicate, but usually their proficiency is not at the level that they are able to understand the nuances of say American or British humor. You certainly aren't going to ask the girl for advice on how to manage your investment portfolio.
Sugar daddies avoid speaking about or handing over money. They prefer to give the sugar baby a credit card in her name, because otherwise it ruins the illusion. In an FKK setting, a monger is literally hovering at the money lockers watching his WG get paid by another customer. FKK customers know they are interacting with a prostitute, as much as they try to forget.
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12-09-17 22:18 #9084
Posts: 35It's funny reading the sermons and pontificating from a few wise guys about the perils of marriage. I am not married but I wouldn't presume to lecture anyone which way is better to go. I don't see the married guys lecturing the unmarried guys to get hitched. But the unmarried guys (well, a couple of them mainly) constantly lecture the married folk about how smart they are to have stayed single. I wonder if these guys have a chip on their shoulders and feeling insecure.
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12-09-17 22:11 #9083
Posts: 1517Many of these girls have lousy spending habits. Some of them make 50 to 100 grand a year working in the clubs, after entry fee and living expenses in Germany. One would think that's plenty enough if they save it wisely and spend carefully back home; but they splurge on useless things and quickly run out of cash and back in the market selling tits and ass.
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12-09-17 22:01 #9082
Posts: 6735Originally Posted by MrHo [View Original Post]
The reason why men and society don't care so much if men are tutes is that we use more our left half of the brain (logic) while women use heir right half more (emotions and feelings). So the logical thing would be two fuck around a lot to see who would be your best partner and experience different things. While the emotional thing would be to listen to what others deem to be good and nice behavior.
And many men in this world is sickening protectionist regarding siblings, cousins, women of their own country, race etc etc. And women listen because they are emotional.
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12-09-17 16:15 #9081
Posts: 7321Originally Posted by VitoCorleone [View Original Post]
However, furthest I went is to take them in my hotel room few times, which cost me ah. Much more than in FKK, maybe it was her trick LOL.