Bogota Reports

[World Travel 69]

Look above in the blue area.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=Abbreviations

Thanks Routard for your thorough answer! Good information, but actually my question was much more simple: what is BBBJ / COF / Anal / etc in Spanish (used by Colombian girls) and what are the must questions for the girls. I mean that in different countries especially SWs have different tricks they always do and it is good to point out that you know it and ask them (E. G. In some places girls don't fully undress if you don't require it beforehand). I was thinking if there is anything like that what is good to know (and how to say that in Spanish) before going fist time to clubs etc in Bogota.

[AlexStone]

You are right, I was not very helpful with my coment. Il will try to refrase it again. What I meant is that it for example a fluent speaking Spanish tourist will have the gringo rate simply because girls now he has incomes in euro and his standards of what is expensive and what is cheap is on European standards. I am living here, I don't need to have any negotiating skills, girls just give me the local price. It doesn't matter if I'm rich or poor in Colombia, I'm used to pay 3 $ for my lunch and anything above seems expensive to me. I'm tall and blonde, but I don't need to speak for people to know that I'm living here, they just know if from my attitude. Colombians in the street ask directions to me when they are lost, people ask to flash my cedula, not my passport and the first question Colombians usually pop to me is how long I'm living here, not where I come from..

Thanks Routard for your thorough answer! Good information, but actually my question was much more simple: what is BBBJ / COF / Anal / etc in Spanish (used by Colombian girls) and what are the must questions for the girls. I mean that in different countries especially SWs have different tricks they always do and it is good to point out that you know it and ask them (E. G. In some places girls don't fully undress if you don't require it beforehand). I was thinking if there is anything like that what is good to know (and how to say that in Spanish) before going fist time to clubs etc in Bogota.

[Alliwantislove]

Has anyone tried Seekingarrangment.com for Bogota? Does it work? Lots of good looking girls there.

Yes.

First of all it's expensive. $80 per month for a Premium membership which you need in order to exchange messages with the girls. It would be interesting to see if you could get away with putting your WhatsApp in your profile (free memberships have a profile) but I don't think SA would let you get away with that.

A lot of attractive girls and in my experience the photos are not photoshopped.

SA makes very clear that they are not providing any pimping services. That makes it tough to decide how explicit you can be in your profile. So the trick I think is to find somewhat vague terminology to put in your profile and hope that the girls are reading between the lines. Things like you are looking for intimate companionship, or physical romance, a date with benefits, an instant / temporary girlfriend, etc. But if you crossed a line I don't know if SA would tell you to change your profile or cancel your membership.

As soon as a girl indicated any interest I would ask for her WhatsApp and then via WhatsApp messages be precise about the services I was looking for. Time consuming since my Spanish is pretty poor.

Of 6 dates I had setup: One girl in Bogota (she use the handle Crysstall) never showed up. No warning that she wouldn't be showing up. No explanation. No apology. Another girl in Bogota (she uses the handle Yulyxxx) sent me a WhatsApp two hours after our date and said that she would be leaving shortly. But I knew that she lived an hour away. I was pissed and told her not to bother.

In Medellin one girl showed up on time and was very attractive and provided great service. But she was a real lush and if I ever have her pay me another visit I will make sure that I have very little alcohol around. Another girl in Medellin also showed up on time and was also very attractive and also provided great service. Besides paying her well I paid for her taxi home. But when I scheduled another appointment with her two days later she never showed up. No message to let me know that she couldn't make it. No explanation. No apology. I scheduled an appointment with a third girl in Medellin who sent me a message just around the time she was to show up saying that she had decided that she's not that kind of girl. But there was nothing in her profile to suggest that she was offering P4 P so I blame myself for that one.

In Cartagena I had only one appointment which was so-so. She showed up a little late. Knew how to handle my cojones but does not know how to handle a dick. No OWO but I did not indicate that I wanted that. SA seemed to have many fewer girls in or near Cartagena than Bogot and Medelland.

Bottom line. I don't know if I will continue to use it.

[PaisaPorFavor]

Thanks for the information. I was just reading another of your posts about picking up non pros. Great information there too!

[Routard]

Although I concede you are a legend around here the vocab does matter. I have poor Spanish but learned enough from this board to negotiate the going rate. I too would like to see a list of common phrases used. I'm not too picky with what comes with 30,000 cop but wouldn't mind more knowledge.

You are right, I was not very helpful with my coment. Il will try to refrase it again. What I meant is that it for example a fluent speaking Spanish tourist will have the gringo rate simply because girls now he has incomes in euro and his standards of what is expensive and what is cheap is on European standards. I am living here, I don't need to have any negotiating skills, girls just give me the local price. It doesn't matter if I'm rich or poor in Colombia, I'm used to pay 3 $ for my lunch and anything above seems expensive to me. I'm tall and blonde, but I don't need to speak for people to know that I'm living here, they just know if from my attitude. Colombians in the street ask directions to me when they are lost, people ask to flash my cedula, not my passport and the first question Colombians usually pop to me is how long I'm living here, not where I come from.

My point is that if you want to have the local price with a girl, 99% is attitude and 1% is what you might say. Try to act and look as if you are living here. First one is dress code. Typical mistake of any tourist in a poorer country is try to dress poor believing it's the best way to mix with the people. It's the opposite. A gringo living in Colombia no matter his incomes is classified as strato 6. A gringo who is working in Colombia has to adapt himself on local dress code. And local dress code for a strato 6 is definitely not a T shirt, an old jean, a short, sandals or a cap. Dress smart, especially shoes, it's probably the first thing people will notice. The next thing people look are you're your hands and men in Colombia are used to do manicure. You need to be shaved and have a fresh haircut. Remember, Colombians are Latinos and Latinos dress smart and take great care of how they look. Yes, I know, most people would believe it would be better to look poor to negotiate price with a girl in Colombia, but it's the opposite.

Another one is attitude. When I Travelled to Colombia as a tourist I had always a huge smile, everything looked so great and any Colombiana looked sexy to me. I was so relaxed, was on vacation without any problem and could afford anything with my euros. I'm now living here, have a company, am struggling everyday with administration, employees, clients, providers ro my bank. I see everyday Colombianas, I got used to it. So of course you can read it on my face that I'm living and working in Colombia. Just try to remember it if you try to look as a gringo who is living here.

Now, I don't want to escape the question, here is it what you might say to negotiate price:

- Hola nena, como estas?

- Bien y tu?

- Como te llamas?

- Me llamo Carolina y tu?

- Mucho gusto Carolina, yo soy Routard. Oye, cuanto cobrarias para pasar un rato?

- Mi amor, el precio es de 60 000 en la habitacion.

- A bueno! y que tal para toda la noche?

- Mi amor, para toda la noche yo cobro 500 000.

- No, es demasiado. Mira, ya son las 2, el lugar va a cerrar y vas a terminar de todas modas. Lo vamos a pasar chevere los dos. 300 000 te parece?

- Ah, mi amor, tengo hijos, mi papa es enfermo, necesito la plata etc. 400 000.

- Listo para 400 000, pero hasta el desayuno. Estamos de acuerdo?

- Listo mi amor, vamonos.

[PaisaPorFavor]

The vocabulary doesn't matter, with poor spanish you will have the gringo rate. I would rather suggest to visit the places where you don't need to negotiate as you pay the house, not the girl. Avoid the high end clubs in north Bogota, for all others brothels in Chapinero or Santa Fe, you will be fine.

Although I concede you are a legend around here the vocab does matter. I have poor Spanish but learned enough from this board to negotiate the going rate. I too would like to see a list of common phrases used. I'm not too picky with what comes with 30,000 cop but wouldn't mind more knowledge.

[Routard]

I am travelling next week to Bogota. I have basic tourist language skills in Spanish, but I don't have much vocabulary for negotiating with girls about their services and so on. I would be thus very grateful if some one could tell most relevant phrases for having the negotiation with the girls in the clubs and street (discussion with girls goes always with the same phrases and basic questions, so that would help me a lot).

P.S. Been here at least ten years, but I have not been posting a lot so I forgot my username and password. Just created a new one.

The vocabulary doesn't matter, with poor spanish you will have the gringo rate. I would rather suggest to visit the places where you don't need to negotiate as you pay the house, not the girl. Avoid the high end clubs in north Bogota, for all others brothels in Chapinero or Santa Fe, you will be fine.

[AlexStone]

I am travelling next week to Bogota. I have basic tourist language skills in Spanish, but I don't have much vocabulary for negotiating with girls about their services and so on. I would be thus very grateful if some one could tell most relevant phrases for having the negotiation with the girls in the clubs and street (discussion with girls goes always with the same phrases and basic questions, so that would help me a lot).

P.S. Been here at least ten years, but I have not been posting a lot so I forgot my username and password. Just created a new one.

[BigDude1]

Has anyone tried Seekingarrangment.com for Bogota? Does it work? Lots of good looking girls there.

[Woodman09]

I was interested in a cheaper hotel near santa fe as well. Is Oceana Confort chica friendly? Does it have a visitor fee?

Actually that area going south on 13th there are several cheaper hotels around about 8 or 10+.

There are 3 right near a police substation-- at 13th and 23 d.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cl.+23,+Bogot%C3%A1/ at 4. 6105687,-74.0739271,219 m / data=!3 m1!1 e3!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x8 e3 f999 eed391 acb:0 xa2 a3212 c069 d7 ceb!8 m2!3 d4. 6104992!4 d-74.0732504.

[Kazeu]

I was interested in a cheaper hotel near santa fe as well. Is Oceana Confort chica friendly? Does it have a visitor fee?

I stay at the Oceana Comfort sometimes. It is a great hotel at a relatively cheap price. Free breakfast and a short walk to Santa Fe. I just wish their shower was bigger. They only have 1 elevator. One time it went out and our room was on the 10th floor. My girl finally decided to take the stairs. I stayed my happy ass on the couch in the lobby until it got fixed.

[Routard]

On the map that address shows up as Club Social Privado Samarkanda. But the street photo has a different name.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?h...457860735&z=22

It's definitely not Club Social Privado. The sign of googlemap is still existing, but Colombianitas is the name on their presentation cards.

[World Travel 69]

On the map that address shows up as Club Social Privado Samarkanda. But the street photo has a different name.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?h...457860735&z=22

Yep, I have visited it once, it's on my FAQ: Disco bar Colombianitas Carrera 100#20C-04. Open daily except Monday from 6 pm till 3 am. No cover, strip show, 30 girls. Pricing is 70 000/20 min. But that is it, still not a reason to stay in Fontibon. IMHO. Except if you are in Bogota for other reasons than mongering, best place to stay is Zona Norte if you want confort and safety or Chapinero if you are on budget.

[Routard]

Not true. There is actually plenty of action IN Fontibon. There's one great spot right on the main drag,(cra 100) but the name escapes me. It's not hidden though; it's a second floor.

Yep, I have visited it once, it's on my FAQ: Disco bar Colombianitas Carrera 100#20C-04. Open daily except Monday from 6 pm till 3 am. No cover, strip show, 30 girls. Pricing is 70 000/20 min. But that is it, still not a reason to stay in Fontibon. IMHO. Except if you are in Bogota for other reasons than mongering, best place to stay is Zona Norte if you want confort and safety or Chapinero if you are on budget.

[GreatGuy1234]

All of the casinos in Fontibon are just small ones with slot machines and electronic roulette not really worth going to imo.

There is a place in Fontibon with chicas. It is on the second floor of calle #17 around carerra #100, but they charged me 14 k for a water and the ***** waitress stole my change from a 20 k note so I haven't returned. There are a bunch of guys on the street that will cajole you to enter the bars. There are actually two bars side by side, with a chicken place downstairs, the other one only charged me 5 k for a water.