SC Sauna Club Living Room - Kaarst

[Polyamorist]

The things that I mostly read on Dutch forums is bullshit and banter, they even have a special 'off-topic bullshit' thread for it now. It's more resembling advertising than a discussion forum with many active users, and it seems it's only a handful of the same people who are constantly repeating the same off-topic bullshit and desperately trying to pretend that everything is normal and what a jolly wonderful time they are having, without mentioning many specific details.

Hamdulillah NNC1701! I have been following the two big Dutch forums for years and your description of them is spot on.

The periodic reminder that "you can't believe everything you read on the Internet" is more relevant than ever in this era of fake news and corporate astroturfing. Is the sex industry immune? Hardly. When browsing a sex review site, nobody should abandon the assumptions that serve them so well looking at hotel review sites, product review sites, and movie review sites: I. E. That over half of what you read is disguised advertising (or sometimes simply noise to discourage real people from posting). Add the tendency of guys to brag about their conquests and hide their disappointments, and it's easy for a site to turn into its own parallel universe where the girls are all beautiful, the pussies always tight, and the cookies just like your mom used to bake them.

[Chongmal]

Anyone who has been at Livingroom on their parties before? Pondering about their Feb. 4th carnival party.

I was here for the Oktoberfest 2017 party. They were not happy with my request to use the discount card from the sister club against entry for a party. It was nice with special drinks, special music and extra bar staff. Like a busy nightclub with people dancing in the lounge area but without the hassle of trying to get a woman to go back to your place with you. There was a wait for the room of about one hour. I expect there could be some nice costumes for carnival. The ladies usually put forward a good effort for the parties.

[Chongmal]

I've been a long time reader of the forum but only registered today. I was frustrated by the madness that has been reported since the New Year by many people, even though none have reported having been there. I have been there on multiple occasions and feel the need to clarify for fellow Bears who are considering a visit. I promise I will try to keep my posts specific to the club under which forum I'm writing.

First, yes the club closed after the control, but opened at 14:00 the following day and has been open all normal operating hours since.

Second, I have not seen a mass exodus of ladies from the club beyond normal rotation. Some favorites told me well before the holidays they would not be coming back after 1 Jan: Tina, Adelina, Rose, Ramona, Ina (who we all know by now has moved to GT). This does not signify the club is failing, just a natural rotation.

Third, the club has had fewer ladies during the holiday, but not less than normal over Christmas and New Year holidays. Coinciding with this, there have been less Bears competing for the dedicated ladies who worked throughout the holidays. Thank you fellow Bears for staying away because this has given me great access to some top women without wait times. There were about 30 women on Friday night, during the busiest part of the night I had a 10 minute wait for the room. Women I saw who I know by name in no particular order: Melissa, Christina, Ruby, Casey, Anna, Amalia, Olivia, Sophia, Nelly, Vicky, Katerina, Bianca, Mia and many more who slip my mind. I can highly recommend all of these women. They each bring their talents to the room. Of course YMMV. I've had no attempts to up sell for kissing or over charging for extras, nor have I heard that from any bears while I've been at the club. True, some ladies don't DFK and some don't offer everything all men desire, but never have I felt a lady has tried to take advantage of me at this club, which is not the case for the sister club and others. I've heard that even more women who haven't been seen since before the New Year will return this week after vacation and completing their registration. It is a shame to hear more than one top woman state that they fail to earn entry because the only bears present on some days are the domesticated house bears that only eat and drink.

Lastly, status of the facilities. There have been some technical problems. There are problems with the hot water boilers, there was a major water leak that followed. The leak was fixed but boiler problems still haunt both the men and women. This happened quite some time ago but full repairs are in the works. I've been told the work to completely restore things to normal is extensive and is being planned for the least impact to business. It's nice that showers are included in the price of entry so we don't have to settle for washing our dicks in the sink. The women like when we smell fresh, even if it's just the complementary club soap slathered on our bodies and rinsed off with half warm water. The sauna has been a bit cooler my last couple visits but still warm enough to sweat a bit and the steam bath is on point. I don't use the jacuzzi but it's regularly occupied by bears and bubbles are coming from somewhere. The food is good enough to restore your strength for the next couple rooms. It's sometimes funny to watch the struggle by the women, sitting in next to nothing, trying to keep the sliding door and windows closed during these cold days while the bar staff opens them to dilute the smoke with fresh air, a couple air cleaners might be a great compromise. The tent is dry and warm enough but I'm not particularly fond of the seating arrangement, it's hard to watch the Bundesleague 2 Football Supporters vs Ski Jumping supporters boxing matches.

If you are thinking about a visit, don't stress, book your trip and come enjoy a really good club with great ladies. In my opinion the best GFE club with some PSE girlfriends. Just the way I like it, A little naughty with my nice and a little sweet with my spice.

[Pistons]

Karnaval party is on 8 February.

You are right. My bad. The 4th was back in 2016. They really need to update their website better, LOL.

[Sirioja]

Anyone who has been at Livingroom on their parties before? Pondering about their Feb. 4th carnival party.

LR Karneval party is on 8 February. Party are usually on weekdays at LR.

Chinese party on 17 February at GT. Party are to avoid at GT, only foods worth, girls are stressed to lose time to wait for room. At GT, in the afternoon for a party on January 2014, or at LR on a end of March 2017 night, not even a party day, only a guy fucking 2 girls at the bar, I waited with my girls for more than 2 hours for a free room, no problem for me to enjoy staying with my girl before room, but girls don't like to wait so much.

[BigBuddy69]

Anyone who has been at Livingroom on their parties before? Pondering about their Feb. 4th carnival party.

I was at the Halloween party 3 years ago, too much noise for me, and too many people. Didn't try any parties since.

[Sirioja]

Some good new talent at LR then? I know about Vicky, but anyone else? I might try the club in 2 weeks.

My last visit was on beginning of November, when I was at LR every week end, sometimes for 2 days, since September 2016 , except when I was not allowed to drive in Germany, so, Switzerland at this time. From when I stopped with my Eve I couldn't enjoy to kiss anymore after Arabs, Turkish, Albanians, I didn't find any new real Eve, even Alyssa was really sweet and lovely, so I moved and found new girls at GT, YY but she is on holidays, even at Sharks.

Since 23 December in Darmstadt, I saw LR weekly regulars like I was, but local guys who were really stuck to LR, when I follow attractive girls rather than staying stuck to a club, at Sharks or at GT. 2 were again at GT on this Saturday, so after getting informations on last week end from GT desk girls who worked at LR before and saw me every week end at LR, when they proposed me 25 € discount ticket, I asked on this Saturday to a German LR weekly regular, we know each other since splendid Nelli / Raïssa. Ro on end of 2014 and about my last Eve, why he moved to GT when he was really stuck to LR and LR is more quiet for him? His answer: No good girl at the moment at LR for him, when he likes sweet beauties, but without being so demanding than me for elegant beauty, better for him at GT on a Saturday afternoon. The other one seemed to find a new favorite at GT, as a sweet Romanian blonde, since few months.

Some new girls seem to ask extra for kissing now at LR. Showers downstairs in front of kino, still seem out of order.

Amira seems to be still there, when some girls left or moved to other clubs, some seem happy to be accepted at GT. Some may return soon, Karnaval party is on 8 February.

I really wish LR will stay high GFE level club, it was, with some really great girls like Daria, Jeni. Ro, Alyssa. Ro even not same extreme potential for sex, but so sweet.

I wonder if the fat bald played Eurosport on this Saturday noon when Dressen. De won his first Worldcup on legendary Kitzbühel Streiff, he was really lucky to race under sun, when Beat Feutz. Ch was the fastest, but no sun for him. Anyway, can t win Hahnenkamm without being strong, even not so extreme on this Winter, Wengen was also not extreme for Munchkante jump.

Great GT to play again, after Wengen Lauberhorn on previous Saturday, won by Feutz at home, under sun.

After Kate on Thursday evening and my model for a so intense Friday evening / early night, after her escort friend left, when we exhaust each other, she felt asleep, I could hardly walk, after 3h 30 of passionate real sex, so, I didn't feel much desire on this Saturday. Good ski watched, good foods, hot chocolate after hot milk offered to Ina on Thursday night, French friendly words with Tatiana, what a welcome from GT staff, and drove back home at night, nearly snowing in Belgium. Difficult to feel desire after a real jewel You built for You, with your way to treat her. Will passion make her keeping on losing money when meeting me, cancelling other appointments, for long time? Since 9 December, weekly enjoyable meetings, even I know it will be very difficult after her, but I have 6 other girls, 4 are on holidays fortunately.

[ExpatLover]

Thanks guys, I'll report back after my visit. I never really got any liking to GT but will head out there if the situation is bad at LR. In general I always felt it was much more easy to find girls that gave good service at LR.

/Q

For me the best club for good service and large LU in NRW is Samya, my only concern is that the LU is too thin until 6 PM and I am a morning guy.

[Qubei]

Thanks guys, I'll report back after my visit. I never really got any liking to GT but will head out there if the situation is bad at LR. In general I always felt it was much more easy to find girls that gave good service at LR.

/Q

[Pistons]

Anyone who has been at Livingroom on their parties before? Pondering about their Feb. 4th carnival party.

[ExpatLover]

I would be the last to deny that there is a lot of BS on the dutch board, nor claim that service requirements of posters is consistently high and there are some guys that spend fortunes on girls. But it is a bit rich to have someone from this board making those claims.

P.S. It is interesting to see over different forums that in general johns seem to be prone to being part of the foil heads brigade.

I am mostly in the big Hessen FKK sometimes in Samya, but but like many of you I have a lot of exchanges with German guys in the clubs and for them LR or GT are no more worth a visit for several years, German guys are very demanding on top service at standard price. They consider both clubs like Palace or Artemis a tourist trap full of cheating girls.

[Pistons]

P.S. It is interesting to see over different forums that in general johns seem to be prone to being part of the foil heads brigade.

Indeed, positive feedback has turned into 'marketing' these days. And then people freak out because being positive is this a sin. The only thing the tin foilers allow is negativity.

[Free Dude]

I would be the last to deny that there is a lot of BS on the dutch board, nor claim that service requirements of posters is consistently high and there are some guys that spend fortunes on girls. But it is a bit rich to have someone from this board making those claims.

P.S. It is interesting to see over different forums that in general johns seem to be prone to being part of the foil heads brigade.

[BigBuddy69]

Actually I know French guys who do the same, and some dudes on this board are easily satisfied too. There's no way I'll go back to gt, I'll go to LR in one month and see how is the situation.

[NNC1701]

I don't know about the current situation, doesn't look that bad according to ijsberen but it's too bad that you don't make some reports from time to time about your go to club.

Very few specific reports about line-up, and the absence of specific reports speaks volumes. If you read between the lines of the GT topics however, it seems that quite a few girls have abandoned LR and switched to GT.

The things that I mostly read on Dutch forums is bullshit and banter, they even have a special 'off-topic bullshit' thread for it now. It's more resembling advertising than a discussion forum with many active users, and it seems it's only a handful of the same people who are constantly repeating the same off-topic bullshit and desperately trying to pretend that everything is normal and what a jolly wonderful time they are having, without mentioning many specific details.

Don't forget that many Dutch and Belgian clients are very naive and easily satisfied, and are even proud to be upsold into spending many hours with a girl. They call it "pancaking. ".