Pattaya Reports

[MrManGuy]

Statistically speaking, you are incorrect. When I hear crap like beauty is in the eye of the beholder and such, it's only true when applied to a single opinion or view point. The clubs I mention, generate the most money of all the Go Go bars on Walking Street. So common sense says most money usually means most customers, means better girls, less turnover, and nicer set up and fixtures. Of course there is always an exception here and there. If you don't think so, ask the girls themselves. Go ask a girl at Windmill, why isn't she working at Baccara? Ask a Baccara girl about Windmill and she will tell you "never heard of the place." And besides, statistically speaking Asians, not most westerners, are usually the best judge for what counts as beauty in Asian culture. It's the same like everywhere in the world. I've seen so many Westerners on there first trip to an Asian country and pay for sex with the most below average looking Asian hooker. I ask if they would have pay for sex with street crack working girls in the USA? They say "no way. " I say back. "Why are you doing that here in Thailand?

When in a relationship you can consider your partner to be the most attractive person in the world and you can get to the point where you won't be interested in women who are objectively more attractive.

With hookers, its objective. To a degree also subjective around your preference for what kind of attractive lady. When I first went to Oase, I found nearly all the girls attractive but I picked ladies with darker features and olive skin, while others would prefer blondes. That it is more around windmill vs baccara or red head vs blonde. I think most of the girls on WS are fairly consistent. Some are just preferred by Asian customers because they're marginally more attractive. I like the little brown skinned ladies. Others don't. Would I go to Baccara if I was Asian enough? Probably, their girls are a little bit better. Us white people are definitely tier 2 in pattaya. Koreans and Japanese are much more sex crazy and willing to spend big.

[MrManGuy]

Yes but I'm talking about normal girls, and good looking, not homeless from 'coconut bar' - beach road, there is 80% sick HIV: So good for you mr. 500' enjoy! .

Pattaya attracts some real delusional weirdos. I consider myself a semi-professional degenerate but some of the people around Pattaya really take the first place for lack of personal awareness. I wouldn't touch beach road if they paid me 10 grand to do it. If they're on beach road, it's because they have HIV. Or they're too ugly to work elsewhere. I mean really, sending punters to beach road on a forum which is supposed to give mongering advice is just plain wrong.

[MrManGuy]

From what I've seen recently uploaded on YouTube the beach road talent looks about the same as what I've seen it before, a sampling of all walks of life including some decent lookers. The good lookers don't last very long, sometimes minutes of taking up their position on the street. I've seen some cute girls get dropped off by motobike 100 feet from me and before I could get over to talk to them they were picked up. I have found a few good ones off beach road but the majority were disappointing. I only do the beach road tour when I'm either coming or going from WS. Link to a beach road video below where the guy really focuses on only getting the working girls in his video, he must edit out tons of footage to get so many good up close shots of the girls. Girl at 29 seconds into the video in the grey top looks pretty good, same with the girl at 5:44 in the black shorts. 5:54 in the background on the left should have been zoomed in on over the chubby one. Same guy has also shot some footage of the freelancers in Bangkok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzdZ0L2YD9c

I am an experienced monger who has been with many, many hookers and I would not touch a single hooker from beach road no matter if she looked like some really attractive celebrity that you like. There are ample ladies around Pattaya who do not carry the same risks. If any decent young or old chaps are reading this. Save yourself the potential disaster and get girls from reputable venues. It is only a few bucks, which is nothing in the scheme of things.

[SamWise1]

Understood. I walked by Mandarin tonight and there were at least 10 coyotes out front. Even those girls were nothing special. I was rushing to see one of my regulars returning since before Xmas so I didn't have time to check out Mandarin.

I was downstairs tonight again. Really like one of the girls.

Walked through Soi 6 around 6 pm and again at around 8 pm after a 'legit' massage. Very limited talent today for my tastes. Lots of girls at 8 pm though. I chose the best one I could find and goofed around with her for an hour before rushing over to Walking Street.

Walked into Honey 2 for fun. Certainly better than Soi 6 level but nothing worth 2400(?) baht. Walked into Sabai Room. One pretty girl with short hair stood out #43. if she were a gogo girl or worked in any bar I would be buying her lady drinks. However, she's in a soapie! I contemplated getting a mechanical soapie and my smarter head decided not to.

I value your reports Banana Boi. Look like the talent after the holidays is very limited. I was planning my trip next month and worried now that it will be hunt for good girls!

[Nite Owl]

I am heading to Pattaya for 5 days in a little over a month from now. I'll be there the first week of March. This will be my 4th trip to Thailand and 2nd trip to Pattaya but sadly my last visit to Pattaya was back in 2006. I guess better late getting back than never. My last visit was alright but I know it could have been a lot better so my intentions this time is to make it better than the last by tenfold. I've been RTFF for ages it seems like; I had been RTFF even before my 2006 trip (first year visiting Thailand) to Bangkok and Pattaya by at least several years. Being a low-key, flying under the radar kind of guy I have been just a lurker on these boards but I have to say I have enjoyed the banter and varying points of view expressed by the members on here. I figured I would make my intro and get in on some of the banter and points of view that go on so I can quit lurking and be a contributor.

I am scheduled to arrive at BKK around noon on Friday so my plans are to hop the bus from the airport to Pattaya, kick back and enjoy the ride into town. I could have scheduled a car or take a taxi but there's something about just taking buses, trains, etc. When in foreign countries that I just like doing. I have 5 nights booked at LK Metro Hotel. I found a good deal for about $50 bucks a night with breakfast (important to me) and jumped on it since it's close to Areca Lodge, where I stayed before, and thus gives me a good point of reference from my visit eons ago. In doing my research, I also see that it's close to LK Metro and I really want to check this area out as I remember walking through that L-shaped stretch back in 2006 when the area was in pre-infancy. I remember there was a handful of what looked like massage joints and absolutely no gogos. There was nobody walking through there either, it looked pretty drab. I am really excited to see what it is like now, up close and personal, and not what I see when I stroll through there on Google Earth.

As for my 5 nights in Pattaya, I plan on also hitting up the infamous Soi 6, Walking Street, BR, and the Soi's in between. It was Halloween night 2006 when I was there and I made one pass straight down Walking Street, not going into any bars and ended up at some pier, or something like that, down at the very end. I had planned on going back up and checking out some gogos but ended up chatting up this freelancer at the pier and next thing I know we are on a baht bus and heading back to Areca Lodge. We ended up staying the remainder of the night at my room doing the deed. So, that was the extent of my Walking Street experience. This time my game plan is to take in Walking Street in all its glory. I hope the plans don't get changed this time but I have allotted myself more time in Pattaya this time.

I definitely plan on checking out 808 club, Flexx club, and Insomnia. I am a Hip-Hop head so 808 and Flexx sound like some clubs I will like and put me in the mood of being in the Hip Hop clubs I like and have frequented here in the States. I don't know the format of Insomnia but as long as it's Hip-Hop, EDM, or an EDM / Hip Hop mix as they like to do these days, then I am in my element. I know I will like that aspect of going on the hunt in those clubs as, in my mind, it still will be easier sealing the deal with the freelancers there than it is working the clubs here in the States. Cheaper too.

I don't know how I will feel about Agogos but I am going to give them a try. I have spent a lot of time over the years going to the hardcore, raunchy Strip clubs that you find in the Southern parts of the USA so I don't know how much the Agogo girls here will impress me but you never know until you give them a try. In RTFF and doing research, it looks like Windmill is a place I will definitely stop into. I also see the same owners have Sugarbaby and Anabelle's (I think that's the name) so they may be worth a visit too. Sapphire sounds like another place worth at least taking a peek into. Any other suggestions will be appreciated. I like the kind of places where the girls are friendly and will let your hands roam all over (think Hong Kong club in Tijuana, Mexico for those that have been). I have set aside $1000 USD as my straight ST / LT, barfine, LD, tip budget so I am hoping that will allow me to enjoy myself thoroughly. If needed, I have another $500 reserve to that budget but I am hoping I don't get that carried away. A man has to have control, ya know. Then again, I would not have that reserve if I didn't think there was a possibility of dipping into it. We shall see.

I definitely respect and believe in not upsetting the pricing structure of any Mongering destination I visit but I don't like being a Cheap Charlie either. It's a delicate balance in my opinion. Just because you can afford something doesn't mean you have to blow money on it and do it. I'm not going to pay Lexus prices for a Toyota even if they are owned by the same manufacturer and I have the money. In RTFF I think I have a good grasp of the standard pricing at the various venues where action is to be had.

I've been RTFF for the last few weeks to give myself some remedial education on the Ins and Outs of visiting Pattaya but I am sure I will still have questions. I started RTFF at December 2016 and figured I would work my way up to present day so that should give me a good solid knowledge base.

[MonkeyPaw]

Understood. I walked by Mandarin tonight and there were at least 10 coyotes out front. Even those girls were nothing special. I was rushing to see one of my regulars returning since before Xmas so I didn't have time to check out Mandarin.

I was downstairs tonight again. Really like one of the girls.

Walked through Soi 6 around 6 pm and again at around 8 pm after a 'legit' massage. Very limited talent today for my tastes..

Last night, I was at the? Bar downstairs also. It's been awhile since I've gone. I have some history with a few of the models there, so I avoid that place because they will leech on me and scare off new girls. The club looked lacking in girls. Back in the days, both stages were full of coyote dancers with many more on the ledges. Now it's only 1 stage with a couple of models on the on the other stage. Drink prices are 185 minimum for anything. No happy hour pricing or anything. Lady drinks are expensive as well. Around 9:30 I ended up pulling a girl off stage. Don't really remember her number, she was thin, had braces, 28 years old but looked 21, nice small but round ass, and had a Thai writing tattoo on right shoulder. She dances with energy. Definitely the best body IMHO in the bar. She didn't want to barfine but I just told her ST only, and mamasan and wait staff told her I was a very very good customer for the bar. She told me to only tell them that we were going to another GoGo bar to drink. Guess she didn't want people knowing. Anyways I bought her 5 drinks at one time and paid the 1000 barfine. This was about 10:40 ish? So at least management reduced barfine prices. Used to be 1500 until after midnight for coyotes. In bed she was lame. Very tight, but quite a screamer and complainer. She kept trying to crawl off the bed and contorted her body so that she didn't receive full penetration. I had to beg for a blow job that she did for 30 seconds. After about 30 minutes, I asked her to finish me with a handjob. She laid there for 5 minutes complaining to be in pain before she started. Only decent thing was that she was new talent, hot, and I was able to pay with a credit card. Going to try again tonight with another one from same bar. I like bars that you can pay with cards.

As for the short hair girl at Sabai Room. She has braces right? If so. I think her actual number is 48. Sits towards right side? Once I saw her stand up and go to the make up room. Her ass left me questioning about her body. Face is nice though. Maybe I'll dive in anyways and report back. It's my last day / night here before I go play in Vietnam. I'll be back in Thailand in a week.

[WankerBoy]

I have been doing some research on which Russian Clubs to avoid on WS.

XO Club, Galaxy, Moulin Rouge.

Am I missing more?

Adding to that, are there any on LK Metro and Soi 6 which I need to avoid as well?

Appreciate the help.

Thanks.

[Breadman]

I don't ever see anyone on Beach Road worth my while to speak to so for Beach Road I was only quoting the board.

From what I've seen recently uploaded on YouTube the beach road talent looks about the same as what I've seen it before, a sampling of all walks of life including some decent lookers. The good lookers don't last very long, sometimes minutes of taking up their position on the street. I've seen some cute girls get dropped off by motobike 100 feet from me and before I could get over to talk to them they were picked up. I have found a few good ones off beach road but the majority were disappointing. I only do the beach road tour when I'm either coming or going from WS. Link to a beach road video below where the guy really focuses on only getting the working girls in his video, he must edit out tons of footage to get so many good up close shots of the girls. Girl at 29 seconds into the video in the grey top looks pretty good, same with the girl at 5:44 in the black shorts. 5:54 in the background on the left should have been zoomed in on over the chubby one. Same guy has also shot some footage of the freelancers in Bangkok.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzdZ0L2YD9c

[Banana Boi]

Sometimes when a club reopens, they will grab some of the better girls from their sister clubs to attract customers in the beginning. So that's why I checked it out. It only took me 1 drink to figure out there was only 2-3 I would consider doing.

Understood. I walked by Mandarin tonight and there were at least 10 coyotes out front. Even those girls were nothing special. I was rushing to see one of my regulars returning since before Xmas so I didn't have time to check out Mandarin.

As for the girl in the pic. I'm sure you can figure out where she works by me adding a couple of more pics of my other 2 favorite regulars from the same bar. You have been to this bar already and you are seasoned enough to pick up on the clues and the layout. This way it keeps me from revealing too much. She is the first girl in maid outfit.

I was downstairs tonight again. Really like one of the girls.

Walked through Soi 6 around 6 pm and again at around 8 pm after a 'legit' massage. Very limited talent today for my tastes. Lots of girls at 8 pm though. I chose the best one I could find and goofed around with her for an hour before rushing over to Walking Street.

Walked into Honey 2 for fun. Certainly better than Soi 6 level but nothing worth 2400(?) baht. Walked into Sabai Room. One pretty girl with short hair stood out #43. if she were a gogo girl or worked in any bar I would be buying her lady drinks. However, she's in a soapie! I contemplated getting a mechanical soapie and my smarter head decided not to.

[SlowAndEasy]

Sometimes when a club reopens, they will grab some of the better girls from their sister clubs to attract customers in the beginning. So that's why I checked it out. It only took me 1 drink to figure out there was only 2-3 I would consider doing. As for the girl in the pic. I'm sure you can figure out where she works by me adding a couple of more pics of my other 2 favorite regulars from the same bar. You have been to this bar already and you are seasoned enough to pick up on the clues and the layout. This way it keeps me from revealing too much. She is the first girl in maid outfit.

Great pics. We have similar tastes.

[LittleBigMan]

Not according to some posters here on ISG who can negotiate 500-700 baht. I don't ever see anyone on Beach Road worth my while to speak to so for Beach Road I was only quoting the board. BTW, what is 'yang'?

JohnyJo, thanks for all your contributions to the Pattaya forum.

I guess I read 29th on the flyer when it said 19th. I wasn't paying too much attention since it was about Mandarin. Surprised you checked it out.

Where does the girl in the photo work?

3746-7= 3739, Yang = Young?

[Christian G]

I had 700 baht sessions off Beach Road just couple of months ago, and 500 baht earlier in 2017. Going rate there seems to be 700-1000 baht, unless it went up within the last 2-3 months (high season).

If you're so clueless that you can't even spell "baht" and are taking baths instead, I'm sure they'll try to charge you more.

Right, ST for less than 1000 baht is still available in beach road and as usual beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Johny with his 7 post is the kind of guy who needs to use a thai sexy holiday agency for find a girl in Pattaya.

[JohnyJo]

I had 700 baht sessions off Beach Road just couple of months ago, and 500 baht earlier in 2017. Going rate there seems to be 700-1000 baht, unless it went up within the last 2-3 months (high season).

If you're so clueless that you can't even spell "baht" and are taking baths instead, I'm sure they'll try to charge you more.

Yes but I'm talking about normal girls, and good looking, not homeless from 'coconut bar' - beach road, there is 80% sick HIV: So good for you mr. 500' enjoy! .

[Anon Mous]

If you're so clueless that you can't even spell "baht" and are taking baths instead, I'm sure they'll try to charge you more.

Had to reply. This is too good! Cracked me up.

[MonkeyPaw]

Not according to some posters here on ISG who can negotiate 500-700 baht. I don't ever see anyone on Beach Road worth my while to speak to so for Beach Road I was only quoting the board. BTW, what is 'yang'?

JohnyJo, thanks for all your contributions to the Pattaya forum.

I guess I read 29th on the flyer when it said 19th. I wasn't paying too much attention since it was about Mandarin. Surprised you checked it out.

Where does the girl in the photo work?

Sometimes when a club reopens, they will grab some of the better girls from their sister clubs to attract customers in the beginning. So that's why I checked it out. It only took me 1 drink to figure out there was only 2-3 I would consider doing. As for the girl in the pic. I'm sure you can figure out where she works by me adding a couple of more pics of my other 2 favorite regulars from the same bar. You have been to this bar already and you are seasoned enough to pick up on the clues and the layout. This way it keeps me from revealing too much. She is the first girl in maid outfit.