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**Pistons** · 01-25-18 17:31

NNC: Never believe it when girls tell you that most guys take extras. It is a standard marketing plot to make you feel better about it when doing the same.

Oh how I wish most clubs had increased the 30 min price by 10 e so the grumpiness of girls all over Germany regarding the prices would at least drop one notch.

**NNC1701** · 01-25-18 11:45

Originally Posted by Polyamorist [View Original Post]

Masā' al-khayr, McAdonis! It seems ISG posts are more likely to be objective because the membership hails from further afield than Holland or Germany. That means there is less motivation for the FKKs to "buy off" contributors.

But it can ruin the atmosphere of a club if the management is giving special deals to certain customers. One danger is that the girls will only want to go with guys where positive reviews are guaranteed. I suspect this kind of thing played a role in the current turmoil at Babylon Elsdorf, so I hope the same thing doesn't happen at LR.

Yes, I completely agree. I read that one guys was complaining that a girl was refusing him because he wrote something on that particular forum. Duh!

In GT the lunatics (read: girls) are in charge of the asylum. They have either a weak or an incompetent management, allowing girls and customers to play with their mobile phones and exchange numbers and make appointments on a very large scale. Of course this behaviour happens everywhere, but it's very prevalent at GT. The result is that it's no longer a nice club where you can go and spontaneously meet sexy girls, because most of the hot girls are all booked by WhatsApp and hidden inside rooms.

I've been visiting GT for many years and I've watched the line-up deteriorate more and more, but the Dutch and Belgians don't care, because for them Sharks and Oase are too far away and they don't know any better. They are upsold a GFE for minimal 100 Euro (1 hour booking) and easily spend 2 hours or more with a girl in a room, only fucking once, maybe twice. Many girls have confirmed this to me, and of course the ladies love it because it guarantees them at least 100 Euro (and probably more) and otherwise they would lose much time waiting for room keys for only 30 minute 50 Euro sessions.

Again; the girls are in charge at GT, management doesn't care as long as people pay 60 Euro entrance fee (and for the price they even dare giving you one of those shitty clothing bags! And the dumb Dutch-Belgian customers are easily satisfied and even making free advertisement on internet forums.

The Dutch and Belgian people writing on the forums probably have all the phone numbers of the hot girls and maybe they get some free entrance tickets as suggested by some people here, so they don't care. It's the normal visitor that ends up getting screwed because they pay 60 Euro for a clothing bag (no clothing locker! He does not have the phone numbers of the hot girls and therefore spends an entire Saturday in a smoky room looking at a mediocre line-up and men in white robes.

Avoid during the weekends, and especially avoid during parties!

**Sirioja** · 01-25-18 03:05

Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]

I know. I am just having some fun with the red line here on the forum which is all about excessive sexism. Taking it a bit further just for the shits.

On last Saturday, I went to GT to watch Kitzbühel and I answered to Kate at the end of our room on Thursday night, I would come back on Saturday, but after my so passionate German model Friday night with sex for 3 h30 , I didn't feel desire on Saturday, so after watching Kitzbühel, I just enjoyed GT services: foods, hot chocolate, jacuzzi, I even slept, but even after, not much desire, so I returned home at night. Clubs are not only about sex. Many Germans go to clubs, without fucking. After my German princess who really will to give me all of her best, complicated to be attracted by other girls. Easier to meet other girls before her, not after.

**BigBuddy69** · 01-24-18 22:04

What turmoil?

**Polyamorist** · 01-24-18 21:38

Originally Posted by PussyLiccker [View Original Post]

I've met a Dutch fellow at a club, and have a good reason to believe who he is on icebear forum. I also have a reason to believe his reporting wasn't completely true based on what he told me.

Originally Posted by McAdonis [View Original Post]

Dutch Ice Bear forum writers are regular club-goers thought that occasionally get free club entries. But that fact is well known. So readers should take that into consideration, when reading.

Masā' al-khayr, McAdonis! It seems ISG posts are more likely to be objective because the membership hails from further afield than Holland or Germany. That means there is less motivation for the FKKs to "buy off" contributors.

But it can ruin the atmosphere of a club if the management is giving special deals to certain customers. One danger is that the girls will only want to go with guys where positive reviews are guaranteed. I suspect this kind of thing played a role in the current turmoil at Babylon Elsdorf, so I hope the same thing doesn't happen at LR.

**Sirioja** · 01-24-18 19:21

Originally Posted by Chongmal [View Original Post]

I'm sorry my fist post was so long and maybe confusing so I will clarify briefly. As I stated then, I will keep my comments focused on the club and the girls working at the said club that I'm posting about, and no, this is not the only club I visit.

For the Bears considering a visit to LR, the club is open normal hours, there is a good selection of ladies, the food is good, there is hot water but you have to wait a minute for it to arrive at the tap after turning it on, one set of showers by the Kino is still out of commission. I'm happy, for my own personal reasons, they allow a variety of men and women in the doors, as long as people act in a correct manner. If I wanted a woman that is my dream woman, I would be looking at business meetings, via friends or maybe even church. Then again, more than one of the ladies mention in my first post have made me call out to God.

Your post was accurate about LR at the moment, but I never noticed most of your girls named. Maybe they started after beginning of November?

I need girls who make me dream for their beauty, elegance, or behavior, not to marry a prostitute fucked by anybody, I m not interested just by fucking a GND. I also want to enjoy my time in the club, not only in room. Since mid October, LR was not anymore the best for my pleasure, but I will return soon, to judge casting with my eyes used to the prettiest, I m only interested by the prettiest, to make them become the best in bed for my tastes.

**Chongmal** · 01-24-18 12:20

Originally Posted by Sirioja [View Original Post]

At Vip GT, they play what I ask, many guys, Germans and Netherlands, come to watch Formula 1 with me, guys look at me watching 30 racers on downhill for 1 h30 , before Bundesliga start. I also wish to have very hot water and very hot jacuzzi, I love cold weather, but I hate cold water. Fortunately, really nice girls on desk and bar, I like Monika even never knew her woking at GT.

Everywhere, good girls are more important than clubs for me.

I'm sorry my fist post was so long and maybe confusing so I will clarify briefly. As I stated then, I will keep my comments focused on the club and the girls working at the said club that I'm posting about, and no, this is not the only club I visit.

For the Bears considering a visit to LR, the club is open normal hours, there is a good selection of ladies, the food is good, there is hot water but you have to wait a minute for it to arrive at the tap after turning it on, one set of showers by the Kino is still out of commission. I'm happy, for my own personal reasons, they allow a variety of men and women in the doors, as long as people act in a correct manner. If I wanted a woman that is my dream woman, I would be looking at business meetings, via friends or maybe even church. Then again, more than one of the ladies mention in my first post have made me call out to God.

**Sirioja** · 01-24-18 09:25

Originally Posted by McAdonis [View Original Post]

Dutch Ice Bear forum writers are regular club-goers thought that occasionally get free club entries. But that fact is well known. So readers should take that into consideration, when reading.

Out of all the forums, Dutch board provides most informational value. Easy-to-find girls by name. I pulled up a translated report for a well-known LR girl, which I attached. Data is presented in tabular format: how much was paid, how many minutes in the room, services rendered. She got only 3 out of five stars. So not overly optimistic hyping. She has positive, negative, and neutral reviews from different reporters, so no obvious shilling.

Only subjective experience from a 50 € guy, not mine, even at kino for our first time, when Amira challenged me to fuck her in kino just before finishing her night, Amira is my only LR kino girl, when I waited with my past Eve for more than 2 hours a room on a Thursday evening and she preferred we don't go in kino, I'm not a kino guy because I know not the best place to get the best from girls, but even in kino, I foreplayed with Amira, I proposed her to extend to 1 hour and she accepted, I made her finish later than 2. 30 am when she was used to finish at 2 am. I returned to LR on 2 next week ends to repeat with Amira. At this time, on May 2016, if you treated her like a woman, not only a sexy doll, even she was only 20 yo, but a sensible little woman in a sexy, curvy, woman body. She did worth my 3 1 hour and 100 € rooms, I enjoyed with her, she can be really sweet in bed.

When a girl like Daria is so generous to give her best to anybody, like a social worker, you have to deserve Amira behavior with your behaviour with her.

That s why I don t care about others writings about girls, only if girls are working or not, because I know I m different and we get with girls from what we are for behavior with them. Even in brothels with prostitutes, my most enjoyable game is to reach the woman part hidden behind, with manners saving money, when girls work this job for money.

**BigBuddy69** · 01-24-18 06:06

Actually that's pretty realistic for this girl. But usually only the first reporting customer makes this sedcard.

**Pistons** · 01-24-18 03:02

Originally Posted by Sirioja [View Original Post]

What I meant is when you are far from your home 3 or 4 days every week, visiting FKK land, of course girls are the most important and I follow my good girls where they move, rather to be stuck to a club, but I don't fuck them all day and night for 3 or 4 days, so I like also to relax my mind, to watch my passions played on TV, to eat good and to drink hot chocolate, what are good clubs services for me, when I pay quite often about 200 for entry per week.

Since beginning of December, my most regular girl is my model escort. Met only on 2 first times in 2 clubs, and then in hotel or appartment, so, sometimes, before we meet, I go to a very quiet club, to eat, to rest, I don't even look at girls, because I know I will have long time sporty sex with her and we will finish exhausted. I just pay for club services.

I know. I am just having some fun with the red line here on the forum which is all about excessive sexism. Taking it a bit further just for the shits.

**McAdonis** · 01-24-18 01:10

Originally Posted by FreeDude [View Original Post]

While many people on local boards definitely have their favorite clubs, they are voicing their own opinions. I've met about 80% of the people on ijsberen in real life. These are regular club goers.

Dutch Ice Bear forum writers are regular club-goers thought that occasionally get free club entries. But that fact is well known. So readers should take that into consideration, when reading.

Out of all the forums, Dutch board provides most informational value. Easy-to-find girls by name. I pulled up a translated report for a well-known LR girl, which I attached. Data is presented in tabular format: how much was paid, how many minutes in the room, services rendered. She got only 3 out of five stars. So not overly optimistic hyping. She has positive, negative, and neutral reviews from different reporters, so no obvious shilling.

**Sirioja** · 01-23-18 20:28

Originally Posted by Pistons [View Original Post]

Best wintersport to watch. Women's speed skating!

And you should know why.

Marrit Leenstra, Hege Bokko, Misaki Oshigiri or Elizaveta Kazelina for example.

What I meant is when you are far from your home 3 or 4 days every week, visiting FKK land, of course girls are the most important and I follow my good girls where they move, rather to be stuck to a club, but I don't fuck them all day and night for 3 or 4 days, so I like also to relax my mind, to watch my passions played on TV, to eat good and to drink hot chocolate, what are good clubs services for me, when I pay quite often about 200 € for entry per week.

Since beginning of December, my most regular girl is my model escort. Met only on 2 first times in 2 clubs, and then in hotel or appartment, so, sometimes, before we meet, I go to a very quiet club, to eat, to rest, I don't even look at girls, because I know I will have long time sporty sex with her and we will finish exhausted. I just pay for club services.

**PussyLiccker** · 01-23-18 15:59

I've met a Dutch fellow at a club, and have a good reason to believe who he is on icebear forum. I also have a reason to believe his reporting wasn't completely true based on what he told me. I doubt that the individual reportings (at least most of them) are to promote specific clubs.