Kyiv

[Jymondor]

Hi!

I'm having a layover in Kiev in a couple of weeks and I was looking for someone to occupy my time with. Is this ad fake or real?

http://localescorts.com/pin/%E2%9D%A...ndependent-22/

I don't know whether she is real or not. But this is about her:

Day started as previous one. Lots of calls and texts, no answers. Finally, I found the girl TGTBT. We agreed at 17:00. She took my address and wrote that she calling for taxi. I call her at 17:15 to check her status. No answer. I text her. No answer. At 18:00 I text her if I do not hear from her in 15 min I consider our date cancelled. No answer.

You can try if you can afford to waste about two hours of useless waiting. Maybe you'll get more luck. If not, I recommend having Plan B, as well as plans C,D,E...Z as well.

[MrTorsken]

Hi!

I'm having a layover in Kiev in a couple of weeks and I was looking for someone to occupy my time with. Is this ad fake or real?

http://localescorts.com/pin/%E2%9D%A...ndependent-22/

[Jymondor]

Sorry for kicking the dead horse, but GIA discount is fake.

Not GIA only. Usually, all discounts are fakes or traps, regardless what you are buying: girls' time, car, or grocery. Discounts are not to save you money. All discounts are to make you spend more.

[PhotoSlider]

1.I gave it 2, I would never pay $175-250, for a girl in Kiev, insane.

2.I dated semi-pros and they were my friends I would never post their pictures. Sorry.

1. Would you pay $10/ hour for GIA girl over few days? Rhetoric question.

2. Certainly respect that. I should not have posted either, even if they were not friends. Poor decision on my side.

[DramaFree11]

I gave it 2, I would never pay $175-250, for a girl in Kiev, insane. I dated semi-pros and they were my friends I would never post there pictures. Sorry.

4 minus means three and a half, certainly not negative 4.

Who did you meet at GIA, DramaFree11, so that Forum has more substance from all vantage points, more representative statistical set so to speak?

[PhotoSlider]

...It's unlikely I would pay full price to one of the girls that's been around awhile...

Sorry for kicking the dead horse, but GIA discount is fake. Right now few 5000 UAH girls advertised as 4500 UAH. $20 off. However only the first hour is discounted. When ordering 4 or 8 or 12 hours, this discount doesn't matter. 9500 or 10000 UAH at 4 hours still translates into only 20 bucks difference. Good marketing trick. For existing customers it can also be requested over the phone. I usually give it to the girl upon arrival anyway.

Age of GIA beauties is routinely decreased by couple years.

Agree with your approach of waiting and snatching the new ones. This makes it almost like a call girl random dice, except she already went through the GIA Quality Control. Not sure if that QC is ever done internally, or implicitly delegated to us.

[PhotoSlider]

Not sure, I would give it a negative 4, probably a 2, very funny, but true.

4 minus means three and a half, certainly not negative 4.

Who did you meet at GIA, DramaFree11, so that Forum has more substance from all vantage points, more representative statistical set so to speak?

[PhotoSlider]

...I met Natasha on her first day and know how difficult it is to find a girl that would fuck like that. I also met Zlata at a discounted rate and it was just awesome. It's unlikely I would pay full price to one of the girls that's been around awhile. Exception would be Ksusha, young skinny blond. That's hard to resist...

Maestro Riina certainly knows a thing or two about Kiev pleasures and sightseeing! Can not even find the right words to describe how great the above ladies were at GIA).

[PhotoSlider]

Perhaps, the most predictable option.

In terms of girls attitude definitely agree. They value employment at GIA, certain safety and level of clientele guided towards them by management, and in the last year or two being treated as human beings, more or less. Many of them are students, the best type for myself. Pictures are real. Some are photoshopped, but difference is not that huge. Unblurred versions with visible face are available for 80%+ of the girls.

Sometimes I like the hunting factor, going beyond GIA convenience and predictability, you called it poker gambling: getting a phone number from the restaurant hostess at Avalon, or a buffet girl at the Opera, arranging for a real date with great looking young lady doing my haircut. Retiring to bed late at night, and not knowing what tomorrow will bring, yet being fascinated again and again. Or having insurmountable task to chose between Alisa and Larisa, while Sasha just came out of nowhere on Viber, that is the ultimate Kiev!

[Riina]

I look at the Gia site about once a week to familiarize myself with the girls. Probably every Kiev monger does the same. If they get a new girl and she's the right age and body type, I feel the risk / reward is well worth the inflated price. I met Natasha on her first day and know how difficult it is to find a girl that would fuck like that. I also met Zlata at a discounted rate and it was just awesome. It's unlikely I would pay full price to one of the girls that's been around awhile. Exception would be Ksusha, young skinny blond. That's hard to resist.

Rio's the same thing. but that venue requires time and money to really know the girls.

[Jymondor]

I wouldn't call GIA the best option.

Perhaps, the most predictable option.

[PhotoSlider]

This is a quote from another ISG forum thread. Can you guess what is the location? Does it remind you anything? Hehehe.

...Reading comments from members from this and other ISG sites, sometimes these reports are depressing. How many times have you read a report that says this place has lost it. Years ago the P4P here was at its peak but now it sux. Did you ever wonder if ten years from now, comments would be WOW the last ten years have been great but now P4P sux. In 1965 while sailing through the China sea my ship made a 10 day stop and anchored out in the Hong Kong harbor. If you have been there then when I say. Go to the rooftops -you get a little tingle but when I mention the nobbie broads at the pier, well now you have a little smile on your face. This was your last chance to get a little relief before returning to ship. Cost 50 cents.

My point is even if the nobbie broads exist today how far would 50 c get you. Oh lord I miss the old days.

Some think Kiev is empty and dry already. I think it is at least three quarters full, and the drink is not only palatable, but very much enjoyable and delicious. Always been going at least 150-200 years back, according to my research, probably much longer. Bring another glass please!

[DramaFree11]

Not sure, I would give it a negative 4, probably a 2, very funny, but true.

1. Thanks for the reference, Jojosun. Interesting reading. Whoever manages GIA now is doing OK due to competition, they also must to try harder in order to retain the talent at sufficient level. Not outstanding, but not too terrible nowadays.

I wouldn't call GIA the best option. Far from that. Perhaps 4 minus on the scale 1 to 5. They are expensive no matter how you look at it, but that's not the problem. They are not available 24 x 7. Phone dispatchers do not seem to enjoy what they are doing at all, there's also soviet style "I don't care. You will pay anyway" attitude towards serviced customers.

Girls short the time previously agreed upon. Not all of them would take your breath away with their beauty. Some are simply GND, cute student, no more. Not all are dressed properly, even when requested. Both dress, and lingerie. Advertised services are not always provided. BBBJ, DFK and other options declined with silly made up explanations based on personal preferences or simply being lazy. Some of the girls had skin problems, not repulsive, but definitely not consistent with the portrayed image of exclusive goddesses taking tired experienced travelers straight to heaven..

[PhotoSlider]

Hi PhotoSlider,

1. There was a discussion about GIA and its set up on here going back 6 or 7 years ago.

2. And they do monitor what gets posted on their girls.

1. Thanks for the reference, Jojosun. Interesting reading. Whoever manages GIA now is doing OK due to competition, they also must to try harder in order to retain the talent at sufficient level. Not outstanding, but not too terrible nowadays.

I wouldn't call GIA the best option. Far from that. Perhaps 4 minus on the scale 1 to 5. They are expensive no matter how you look at it, but that's not the problem. They are not available 24 x 7. Phone dispatchers do not seem to enjoy what they are doing at all, there's also soviet style "I don't care. You will pay anyway" attitude towards serviced customers.

Girls short the time previously agreed upon. Not all of them would take your breath away with their beauty. Some are simply GND, cute student, no more. Not all are dressed properly, even when requested. Both dress, and lingerie. Advertised services are not always provided. BBBJ, DFK and other options declined with silly made up explanations based on personal preferences or simply being lazy. Some of the girls had skin problems, not repulsive, but definitely not consistent with the portrayed image of exclusive goddesses taking tired experienced travelers straight to heaven.

Same old, no matter where you are. Kiev or somewhere else on the planet. Dream is sold online, - it's up to us to believe it or not, and up to every girl to perform convincingly. Maybe 50% of GIA girls I would ever return to, considering the available alternatives. Nothing new. I have been more content with 1800-2000 UAH 24 x 7 call girls for a quickie. Certainly had better value in terms of price / quality ratio with old acquaintances, when doing more than few hours.

Despite the above complaints, at least one GIA girl has been an amazing actress. Brings a smile to my face every time I think of her. We did very long and happy time together. There is no substitute for a great looking 20 yo, having a real orgasm.

2. GIA surely moderates their own multiple websites. They lie there routinely, everybody does in Sales. It seems few years back they also monitored and even had laughable attempts to affect opinions of ISG regular participants. Perhaps they still monitor ISG, but shifted their efforts towards controlled environment of gia dot la and such.

[Jojosun]

I The question was about skill of those who manages them. Not even dispatchers on the phone or email. Decision makers above everybody. Who decides on how to run the shop? General manager of the team so to speak.

I would expect they are local. Still am curious. Not in a critical way though.

Hi PhotoSlider,

There was a discussion about GIA and its set up on here going back 6 or 7 years ago.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...-Escorts/page9

And they do monitor what gets posted on their girls.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...-Escorts/page3