Smooci Advertiser Thread

[AstoraDick]

I wonder if number of shots can be revised for 12, 15, and 24 hours bookings and possibly introduce an option for unlimited shots, too, like anal additional fee across the board. I'm aware that longer bookings is meant for those who want a companion to tour the city but there is much more room than only limiting to 4-shot for 15 and 24 hours while touring. I think an increase to 6 and 7 shots for 15 and 24 hours is proper especially that it won't necessary lead to full usage.

Lastly, could you clarify more on couple option offered by some of the companions. It's double the price, understandably, but does the companion choose the one she works best or is that I already have my own and wishes she could come and mingle with us? I really want to try threesome through Smooci and of my own choosing, too.

Thanks.

[Dion Cassius]

Quick question to seniors.

Those girls that are available for A+ do I need to pay extra (apart from tips that may be normal) for A level? If so, how much is considered normal?

It is usually a 2000 baths extra.

[EihTooms]

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The key issue is that the MP accurately advertises girls with clear updated pics and honest description of the service they will provide plus price.

Nothing else matters (to me anyway).

There's the challenge, isn't it?

I read reports here of guys being begged by the girl to give them a 5 Star rating, not that there is much reason to assume any customer's rating is based on an honest report on her claimed services anyway.

I mean, someone recently praised a girl for providing a "GFE" for which he likely would have given her a high Star rating anyway even though she walked in complaining about being tired, he had to wake her up before she wasted more than an hour snoozing of the 3 hours he booked and paid her for and, oh by the way, she refused to deliver DFK, CIM and something else she claimed to deliver in her profile. Incredible.

Mind you, these are guys who search for, read and post on this site. So it stands to reason they actually know and understand the scene MORE than 99.9% of those girls' usual customers.

[SunnyBoyPerth]

Quick question to seniors.

Those girls that are available for A+ do I need to pay extra (apart from tips that may be normal) for A level? If so, how much is considered normal?

[Red Kilt]

There may be a potential problem with this system depending on its specifics.
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I am bewildered by guys wanting to read "ratings" of service quality from girls, and even more by the issues likely from girls rating customers.

Almost every post on ISG refers to how YMMV depending on at least 8 variables at any given time. I am not going to take any notice of any other guy's rating because I know it will not have any relevance to my experience.

The key issue is that the MP accurately advertises girls with clear updated pics and honest description of the service they will provide plus price.

Nothing else matters (to me anyway).

[EihTooms]

We are also starting to introduce the ability for companions to rate and comment on their clients. This info will not be available on the site but it will be shown to companions along with booking request, helping them to accept or reject a booking.

Why would Escort ABC want to convince Escorts DEF, GHI, JKL, etc. that they should happily accept a booking from a particularly easy and generous customer if it is in Escort ABC's interest for him to encounter roadblock after roadblock in booking someone other than Escort ABC again tonight?

[Franciscass]

It is anonymous, we have a flagging system and regularly read through comments in order to remove anything which may be too personal or revealing of identity. So far we are not seeing any issues or anything too nasty, and mostly it's very positive comments.

The companion comments are a new introduction and most are just starting to work out the importantce of them (to recommend and warn). We are hoping it will work the same way as the user comments and ratings do, rewarding the genuine clients and highlighting those who are a potential problem.

The system would need to be anonymous from both ends.

ISG members are not recognizable. I could be sitting beside a fellow member at a bar perhaps even somebody I had a difference of opinion with and I wouldn't know it.

Working girls can be recognized by their place of work, their name / number, their net pics etc. Because of this, masking their identity is essential if they are posting unfavorably about dickhead customers particularly as some of these guys are real nut jobs. No knowing how they might react.

With that safeguard in place I look forward to hearing from the girls about their experiences. They just might be more informative and entertaining than the one sided accounts we have.

[LA Guy 5]

It is anonymous, we have a flagging system and regularly read through comments in order to remove anything which may be too personal or revealing of identity. So far we are not seeing any issues or anything too nasty, and mostly it's very positive comments.

The companion comments are a new introduction and most are just starting to work out the importantce of them (to recommend and warn). We are hoping it will work the same way as the user comments and ratings do, rewarding the genuine clients and highlighting those who are a potential problem.

There may be a potential problem with this system depending on its specifics. As you noted earlier, to mitigate against customers being pressured to give five ratings while the girl is still there, you have a seven-day window during which the customer can change his rating. What about the girl? How long does she have before her rating is finalized and cannot be changed? Suppose, for example, a customer leaves a five-star rating because the girl pressures him for this, but later changes it and comments that the girl pressured the customer for a five-star rating but deserves less. Such a customer comment would alert other potential customers to the possibility the girl received other five-star ratings owing to pressure, not merit. Will the girl be able to retaliate against the customer by then leaving him a low rating, or changing a high rating to a low one?

Although the specific scenario above might not play out in its specifics so often, other situations where retaliatory comments or ratings of customers could be made are very possible. Indeed, this problem of retaliatory feedback is why Ebay no longer allows sellers to rate buyers. Essentially, by allowing a seller of any service to rate customers it makes it quite probable, if adequate safeguards are not in place, that honest customer feedback would be discouraged for fear of retaliation. And it is no answer to say the ratings are done anonymously because if a rating includes certain details of the session, or if the girl does not have a lot of customers, it would not be difficult to figure out who left the feedback.

I'm not sure what the best solution to this is, but one would be to give the girl a very short time window to leave a review, and hold up on posting the customer ratings and comments until after this time window has closed. This does not mean the customer would be prohibited from giving his feedback immediately, only that Smooci would keep it under wraps until after the girl's time window for leaving feedback, which could be as short as ten or fifteen minutes, has expired. And since the customer presumably would not have access to the girl's ratings of him, this would not open up the possibility of a customer retaliating against a girl for leaving a bad rating for him.

[SmoociApp]

I've always thought it would so interesting to have a forum where working girls posted their experiences with customers. It would give us all a peek into what is really going in the P4P world. Would it surprise us to know that they love us or could it be something a little less flattering? My favorite answer when I chat to girls about which customers they like is when they tell me there are only two kinds of customer, good customer and bad customer, race, ethnicity, age, weight looks are all essentially irrelevant. Good for you Smooci if you go ahead with this but as you I'm sure realize it's a bit dodgy if a punter believes his session could go public. Anonymity would be essential.

It is anonymous, we have a flagging system and regularly read through comments in order to remove anything which may be too personal or revealing of identity. So far we are not seeing any issues or anything too nasty, and mostly it's very positive comments.

The companion comments are a new introduction and most are just starting to work out the importantce of them (to recommend and warn). We are hoping it will work the same way as the user comments and ratings do, rewarding the genuine clients and highlighting those who are a potential problem.

[Tiandihui]

I've always thought it would so interesting to have a forum where working girls posted their experiences with customers. It would give us all a peek into what is really going in the P4P world. Would it surprise us to know that they love us or could it be something a little less flattering? My favorite answer when I chat to girls about which customers they like is when they tell me there are only two kinds of customer, good customer and bad customer, race, ethnicity, age, weight looks are all essentially irrelevant. Good for you Smooci if you go ahead with this but as you I'm sure realize it's a bit dodgy if a punter believes his session could go public. Anonymity would be essential.

Probably a new game play in this industry. Whereby customers are being rated by the girls rather only the other way.

Pretty fair to me if ask me. Not all customers are always right.

Pretty sure there are some really demanding and nasty customers around too.

Way to go Smooci.

[Franciscass]

We did have a complaint of this some months ago; as a result we now allow the clients to edit the rating / commemt once within 7 days of posting it.

A new issue which is cropping up is the reverse. We've had 2 recent reports of clients who requested extra shots / time from the companion with the threat of giving a 1 star and bad review if they refused. As a response to this we are considering letting the companions respond to comments they receive.

We are also starting to introduce the ability for companions to rate and comment on their clients. This info will not be available on the site but it will be shown to companions along with booking request, helping them to accept or reject a booking.

I've always thought it would so interesting to have a forum where working girls posted their experiences with customers. It would give us all a peek into what is really going in the P4P world. Would it surprise us to know that they love us or could it be something a little less flattering? My favorite answer when I chat to girls about which customers they like is when they tell me there are only two kinds of customer, good customer and bad customer, race, ethnicity, age, weight looks are all essentially irrelevant. Good for you Smooci if you go ahead with this but as you I'm sure realize it's a bit dodgy if a punter believes his session could go public. Anonymity would be essential.

[SmoociApp]

Smooci,

It seems some girls like to pressure, guilt, or shame (guys into a 5-star rating, and it seems some guys go for it. I wouldn't consider a companion with a perfect 5 - don't trust it. Do you suppose it may make sense, since you already have tracking on the app, that the rating system is available only after companions and clients have parted company to help keep the system more honest?

Just a thought.

We did have a complaint of this some months ago; as a result we now allow the clients to edit the rating / commemt once within 7 days of posting it.

A new issue which is cropping up is the reverse. We've had 2 recent reports of clients who requested extra shots / time from the companion with the threat of giving a 1 star and bad review if they refused. As a response to this we are considering letting the companions respond to comments they receive.

We are also starting to introduce the ability for companions to rate and comment on their clients. This info will not be available on the site but it will be shown to companions along with booking request, helping them to accept or reject a booking.

[EihTooms]

Yesterday results card can't prove today one is clear of anything.

To be more safer side, cap on in commercial sex. Save the raw session to your own permanent partners.

Play with responsibility mate.

"Yesterday results card can't prove today one is clear of anything."
Then that means any venue's claim that "Our girls are tested regularly", etc. is essentially meaningless as well, right?

My preferred method is I do what I want and need in order to get the job done for me and what I have found to be more responsible and safer for myself and every partner I have had than what men who claim to wear caps all the time have apparently encountered and, if you are worried about it, then you wear a cap every time or confine your sexual encounters to your permanent partners.

But I can help anyone who is concerned about being with Thai girls who I can assure you from first hand experience provide BBFS to certain customers (or dates) more often than you might think.

Avoid these girls:

Go-go bar girls.
Dating site girls.
Non P4P girls at restaurants, shops, malls.
Beer Bar girls.
Freelancers, except in Beer Garden Soi 7 in Bangkok.
Blowjob Bar girls.

On the other hand, here are the venues and environments where I have found the girls to be very resistant to offering BBFS. So if you choose to be with one of these girls and your cap "falls off", "slips off", "breaks", "tears" or you are too drunk or horny to put one on as seems to happen remarkably often with men who rely on condoms to protect themselves and their partners, these places and girls ought to be a much safer bet for you:

Beer Garden Soi 7 in Bangkok.
Massage Shops, including oilies, so-called PSE shops, etc.
Almost anywhere in Pattaya except freelancers (again, my experience).

Don't know about escorts in Thailand (I have used them in the Philippines and elsewhere) because I have not yet been convinced a rating system and photo shopping won't do more to misinform than inform me about what will happen in the room. But I have been with 3-4 girls I have seen on Smooci and other escort-related sites when they were younger, slimmer and working the sois as freelancers and, again, my experience was those particular girls provided BBFS for certain customers.

[Jaaxie]

Smooci,

It seems some girls like to pressure, guilt, or shame (guys into a 5-star rating, and it seems some guys go for it. I wouldn't consider a companion with a perfect 5 - don't trust it. Do you suppose it may make sense, since you already have tracking on the app, that the rating system is available only after companions and clients have parted company to help keep the system more honest?

Just a thought.

[Franciscass]

This obviously would have to be hiv viral load test instead of aids test. The girl may not know that?

There have been advances in reducing the "window period" I. E. The period within which a person can be infected and thereby infectious and when it shows positive on a test. Presently the quickest is Early (NAAT / RNA) which detects virus ten to 12 days after infection in about 90% of cases.

What this means is a negative HIV result is only really 100% reliable if there has been no sexual interaction where there was a possibility of becoming infected both during the ten to twelve day period prior to the test and obviously since the test was done.

There are other more standard tests where the "window period" can be up to three months for 100% accuracy.

I am not sure in establishments where girls are regularly tested which tests are used, but as I understand it while testing will eventually show positive for infection in the short term whatever test is used they are not totally reliable.