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  1. #24506
    Quote Originally Posted by BionicMan  [View Original Post]
    Given the ST rates at 1000 plus a BF and a few drinks, it is just about for one girl a day. Even in a MP in soi chaiyapoon.
    Who seeks finds, he can have ST with less than 1000 in beach road. In soi chaiyapoon is normal to pay 1000 all in for ST.

  2. #24505

    Room prices on Soi 6

    Due to the woeful level of talent on Beach Rd I have started to progress to Soi 6. However I am somewhat confused about the room pricing which seems to vary from place to place even though the price for a chick seems to be constant at 1000 baht.

    For the rooms I have been quoted 350 baht twice, 400 baht once, and 300 baht twice. I am very wary about being ripped-off for anything in Thailand, so I am wondering if the quotes above 300 baht are designed to rip-off unsuspecting punters? Or are there in fact different price levels for rooms between the separate bars?

  3. #24504
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianG  [View Original Post]
    Guys, please read carefully before give a wrong suggestion, he has max 10 k for 5 days for GIRLS. So this is 2 k a day to spend on monger activity and he know this is a low budget. Anyway he will be fine with soi 6, beach road, Thaifriendly, soi honey, soi chaiyapoon, etc. He could also shag 2 girls a day.

    No problem at all, feel free to order whatever you like: coke, sprite, orange juice, lemon tea, etc. Up to you.
    Given the ST rates at 1000 plus a BF and a few drinks, it is just about for one girl a day. Even in a MP in soi chaiyapoon.

    That would be bearable for most, tho'.

    It's ok, still it is tight and doesn't leave much space to fantasies.

  4. #24503
    Quote Originally Posted by ChristianG  [View Original Post]
    Guys, please read carefully before give a wrong suggestion, he has max 10 k for 5 days for GIRLS. So this is 2 k a day to spend on monger activity and he know this is a low budget. Anyway he will be fine with soi 6, beach road, Thaifriendly, soi honey, soi chaiyapoon, etc. He could also shag 2 girls a day.

    No problem at all, feel free to order whatever you like: coke, sprite, orange juice, lemon tea, etc. Up to you.
    Good point. But you have to be clear. In every town, in every city in every country I have been to, some people think that bars / clubs / gogo bars / strip clubs (that don't have a cover charge) are happy with customers who come in and sit down for 2 - 6 hours and just order one drink.

    A regular customer is in a different category. Random guys (no matter their race, religion or color) who wander into a bar and don't' buy a drink an hour or barfine a girl are a waste of time and resources for the bar. Unfortunately, Indians have the stereo type of being cheap, so Rocky is going to have to deal with that issue. We all know that there are many girls who have tiered pricing structure, and many of us know that the girls will typically quote Indian guys higher prices. Girls also quote older guys, fat guys, ugly guys higher prices. It is what it is.

    You are 100% correct that Rocky can easily have a great time on a $2 k budget for girls. But again, you have to be clear. If Rocky wants 20 year old who are 8/10+, that budget is not going to work. If Rocky goes to Gogo clubs and wants to barfine a girl, that budget is not going to work (if he wants to.

    Have a different girl each night). Etc. Etc.

  5. #24502
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    I am a budget monger and my budget for girls is only 8 k baht (max. 10 k) for 5 days I am staying in Thailand.
    Quote Originally Posted by SlowAndEasy  [View Original Post]
    I think that Rocky has $8 - 10 K for 4 days. Not $8-10 K / day.
    Quote Originally Posted by MumbaiGuy  [View Original Post]
    If that is so then I would suggest he stays where he is and forget about his trip to Pattaya. A total of 8-10 K for 4 days is just enough for his food and drinks + hotel stay.
    Guys, please read carefully before give a wrong suggestion, he has max 10 k for 5 days for GIRLS. So this is 2 k a day to spend on monger activity and he know this is a low budget. Anyway he will be fine with soi 6, beach road, Thaifriendly, soi honey, soi chaiyapoon, etc. He could also shag 2 girls a day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. .
    No problem at all, feel free to order whatever you like: coke, sprite, orange juice, lemon tea, etc. Up to you.

  6. #24501
    Quote Originally Posted by SlowAndEasy  [View Original Post]
    I think that Rocky has $8 - 10 K for 4 days. Not $8-10 K / day.
    If that is so then I would suggest he stays where he is and forget about his trip to Pattaya. A total of 8-10 K for 4 days is just enough for his food and drinks + hotel stay.

  7. #24500

    Devils Den

    Devils Den was still on my to-do list, so I went over to try it out. About 7 girls to choose from on the early evening. As always: pictures on their website www.devilsdenthailand.com look better than the original. I selected Som and let her choose the third person.

    The whole procedure started with the ritual showercleaning and then on the bed with mirrors on the walls and ceiling, so you can watch yourself from multiple perspectives. The girls were friendly and pleasing, but somewhat mechanical like in the soapies. BBBJ from both and intercourse with both of them, changing condoms in between. I finished with BBBJ.

    My weapon was still aimed at the target after the first pop; but at my age, reloading for the second shot is out of the given time frame. So when you are a fast reloader go ahead and make the most out of it. If not, maybe find a more costfriendly way for a threesome.

  8. #24499
    Quote Originally Posted by MumbaiGuy  [View Original Post]
    8-10 K per day is a good enough budget for food+drinks and mongering in Pattaya. Maybe not enough in Bangkok. You can definitely have 2 STs + 1 LT in that budget in Pattaya. Banging 3 girls a day is a decent average for a mongering trip of a few days.
    I think that Rocky has $8 - 10 K for 4 days. Not $8-10 K / day.

  9. #24498
    Quote Originally Posted by NRock  [View Original Post]
    This is the problem. You said you recognize that Indians have a bad reputation and want to find a solution, but then you are going to perpetuate the perception in LOS that Indians are cheap.

    How are you going to go to the clubs and not drink? How are you going to get girls if you don't offer to buy them a drink at the bar? (Separate issue being you will be kicked out of the GoGos that actually let you in for not buying drinks) 10 k is honestly unrealistic if you want to monger every day you are there. You could maybe get away with 2-3ST girls and the rest of the days is just walking around. But then what is the point of going?

    My recommendation is to not go until you have a more realistic budget, but since it seems like the trip is happening in a few days you probably have to hit up Beach Road or one of the Soi 6 bars (which will make you buy drinks). Soapies are likely to wreck your budget and clubs are simply out of the question.
    8-10 K per day is a good enough budget for food+drinks and mongering in Pattaya. Maybe not enough in Bangkok. You can definitely have 2 STs + 1 LT in that budget in Pattaya. Banging 3 girls a day is a decent average for a mongering trip of a few days.

  10. #24497
    Quote Originally Posted by Bdonkadonk  [View Original Post]
    Well, I guess that you don't have to. Personally I like to buy one lady drink to get some time to sit with the girl and get an idea of what kind of girl she is.

    Guess it is a personal preference to pay for that time to "interview" the girl before going up and since it is so small money we're talking about I find it to be well invested money. But sure, if someone is on a very tight budget, like our Indian friend Rocky2300, it is optional to to skip any drinks and go directly upstairs to the room. Still I would recommend to pay for that time to sit with a girl for a while, before taking her upstairs.
    Usually you can sit there and dick around with them all day without buying them a drink. They really don't have shit else to do (if it is not a really busy place - and if it is, then she is going to be gone right after the drink is finished anyway).

    The times that I do buy a chick a drink, I do it after she has been sitting with me screwing around for a while. That way I know whether she is there because "she wants to" and not because I used a "carrot on a stick" by buying the drink for her. In other words, I use drinks as a reward instead of a preward. I don't want to waste my money (as little as it may be) on someone I might be rejecting.
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  11. #24496
    Haven, my comment was based on my own experiences in gogo bars, FKK clubs, and many strip clubs around the world so my sample size is likely fairly large. I know what I see on how girls at specific bars perceive me. It's most obviously noticed in FKK clubs. In Pattaya, there are still many gogo bars where I have never bought a lady drink for anyone. In those bars, I do not get tons of smiles from girls who recognize me like I would in a gogo bar where they know I may buy a random girl an occasional lady drink.

    Maybe I will perform my own scientific studies when some of my friends come to town. Will hit the same gogo bars on consecutive multiple nights and see if the person buying a lady drink for a different girl each night gets more attention than the guy who never buys drinks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bdonkadonk  [View Original Post]
    Well, I guess that you don't have to. Personally I like to buy one lady drink to get some time to sit with the girl and get an idea of what kind of girl she is. It will make it more easy to decide if I want to go with her upstairs or not. And sometimes I will find out that I don't want to go upstairs with the girl, for various reasons, and I just move on.

    Guess it is a personal preference to pay for that time to "interview" the girl before going up and since it is so small money we're talking about I find it to be well invested money. But sure, if someone is on a very tight budget, like our Indian friend Rocky2300, it is optional to to skip any drinks and go directly upstairs to the room. Still I would recommend to pay for that time to sit with a girl for a while, before taking her upstairs.
    I agree. I would rather dish out a bit of cash and get a lady drink to "interview" the girl first. Last week, I rejected a decent looking girl who grabbed me to sit with her at Ruby Bar. She was such a dud and failed her interview so bad that I left her before 1/3 of her drink was even finished. Imagine if I went to a room with her? I likely wouldn't have made it through our shower together. Walked by her again yesterday afternoon and she gave me a dirty look!

  12. #24495
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Why do you have to buy drinks? When you go to a restaurant do you have to buy appetizers? You can go to any place on Soi 6 and point at any chick and say let's go upstairs. The room is 350. Tell the girl 700 for her. 1050 all in. He could get 4 girls and a meal to eat after each one for every 3 girls that you get.

    Or you can go around closing time and find a chick. Pay the barfine (if the chick is cool she will just come to you after work without a barfine) and tell her 1000 LT for her.
    Well, I guess that you don't have to. Personally I like to buy one lady drink to get some time to sit with the girl and get an idea of what kind of girl she is. It will make it more easy to decide if I want to go with her upstairs or not. And sometimes I will find out that I don't want to go upstairs with the girl, for various reasons, and I just move on.

    Guess it is a personal preference to pay for that time to "interview" the girl before going up and since it is so small money we're talking about I find it to be well invested money. But sure, if someone is on a very tight budget, like our Indian friend Rocky2300, it is optional to to skip any drinks and go directly upstairs to the room. Still I would recommend to pay for that time to sit with a girl for a while, before taking her upstairs.

  13. #24494

    Soi 6

    Quote Originally Posted by Bdonkadonk  [View Original Post]
    My recommendation for Soi 6 still stands but you won't be able to take any girls long time from Soi 6 but you can afford a few short times there.

    You say that you don't drink but you are at least expected to get something, like a water, in a bar. That will be around 60 Baht and say that a lady drink is 160 so it comes to 220 Baht. 300 - 350 for the room plus 1000 for the girl. Around 1600 Baht for taking a girl there short time.
    Why do you have to buy drinks? When you go to a restaurant do you have to buy appetizers? You can go to any place on Soi 6 and point at any chick and say let's go upstairs. The room is 350. Tell the girl 700 for her. 1050 all in. He could get 4 girls and a meal to eat after each one for every 3 girls that you get.

    Or you can go around closing time and find a chick. Pay the barfine (if the chick is cool she will just come to you after work without a barfine) and tell her 1000 LT for her.

  14. #24493
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    Thanks brothers for the information but I am a budget monger and my budget for girls is only 8 k baht (max. 10 k) for 5 days I am staying in Thailand. I don't drink so I won't have to spend on drinks.
    No brainer. Hit the disco and get a club soda. Get a chick for 1000 LT. Easy peasy. This chick got here at 11 pm last night and now it is after 2 pm and she is still here. 1000 baht. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill. Fuck with me and you will have money left over to take back home.
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  15. #24492

    Monkeypaw Serious Moment Here

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300  [View Original Post]
    Thank you guys for guiding me, and I think that I will book another hotel room once I reach there, could you guys please suggest me some good hotels near soi 14 walking street (my current hotel) which won't be much burden on my pocket. Could you also please tell me if there will be a problem if I don't drink alcohol in the bars as I have never had before. But I will buy lady drinks for the girls. Could you guys also tell me the going rates for a lady drink in discos or go go bars. And sorry for asking so many questions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky2300
    hey bro, read all your reports from a month back and really liked your style of writing reports. I believe from your reports that you have quite a lot of knowledge about Bangkok and Pattaya and a very good repo too. I am visiting Pattaya and bangkok on 7th february . Could you please help me out in bangkok ( i will be in bangkok from ( 10-12 ) or if you want we could monger together for a day or two either in bangkok or pattaya.
    My budget is a little on the low side , about 10000 baht for my whole stay for mongering . And i want to explore as much as possible. Would love to monger with you for a day or two.
    I am visiting with a male friend and we are from India .
    I hope you will help us by at least sharing your knowledge . And i would also love to know more about your expedition to Thermae,devils den and Angel witch all rolled into one place.

    Rocky2300
    I guess if a lost soul reaches out for a little help, Monkeypaw can assist a bit. Can't promise I can hang with you because I have a reputation to keep. Go Go bars both BKK and Pattaya, I am so well known, that if another ISG member embarrasses themselves or me, I usually have them kicked out. One time, out of being nice, an Indian member on this board PMed me about helping him get access into Palace and other bars on Walking Street. I met up with him and when they stopped him at the door, I gave the security nod, so they let him inside. When we took our seats, he didn't want to order a drink, but wanted to look for a few minutes. Not even a soda or water was ordered, then the waitress looked at me in confusion. I looked at the both of them and said, "I don't know this guy!" She said we thought he was with you? I said, "Nope, throw his ass out. I was saying Hello, to security with my nod. " So if your habits aren't like mine. We won't be able to hang. I don't drink much alcohol but do buy drinks and shots for the girls. I tip my waitresses well. I don't grope on girls or try to kiss them in bars. And I pay at least the standard going rate for the girl, no haggling down. Sometimes I pay more if it's a premium girl that just doesn't go with anyone. And always tip mamasan if she helps you select a girl. This is the Monkeypaw code for mongering in Go Go bars. This what makes me loved by these girls and #1. Don't forget to tip them when they perform and pay their taxi back always, when they travel to your hotel.

    You won't be able to catch in BKK anymore, because on the 6th, I'll be in Pattaya. As for your 10 days, 10,000 baht. That's not really my type of budget for fun. You are talking to somebody who spent 70,000 on just one night in Walking Street just at the Go Go bars, ended up not even getting a girl because I was so drunk, and had to walk back to my room in the rain because I had no taxi money. But it was a very memorable night, indeed.

    But you seem really lost, so I'll help you out a bit with some sound Monkeypaw advice. It's okay, I'm the expert at crap like this. I think you know already.

    1. No need to book another room, just yet. When you check into your hotel, ONLY you check in. Have your friend go wait some where else. And chill. You booked a room for 2, and only 1 person checks in. Tell reception, your buddy didn't make the trip and it's just you. Request two key cards still. If they only give you one, that's fine too. Officially, your room will booked for 2, but only 1 guest arrived, no joiner fee when a girl is brought back. These hotels don't know all their guests faces and remember there are usually 2 shifts (day / night) working. You take your buddy's luggage along with yours and bring it in to the room. Later, you go meet him to give him his key card and room number. Never walk in the lobby together with your buddy. They will not know who stays in that room anyways. The MOST important thing is only you check in for this to work, not two people.

    2. With the girls, it's easy now. But you can only have one girl in the room, and only he or you can be in the room as well. No Indian orgy, foursome crap can be going on in that room or you will get caught. You have to share the room. If you find a girl, you can take her to your room no problem. Take her to reception, they will ask room number and ID. Your buddy can wait outside somewhere. There are plenty on Indian food in the area. He can get some samosa or masala and enjoy the view. When he finds a girl, he goes to your room alone with your key. He will tell her the hotel name and room number and your name. He will go wait in your room. 5 minutes later, she will go to your hotel, tell reception YOUR name, and the room number. They will call in your room, and your buddy will "OK' her to come up. Reception doesn't know who they are talking to when they call into the room. Got it?

    3. You can possibly have a threesome if you and your buddy don't mind sharing a girl. I see why'all holding hands all the time on Walking Street, so I'm sure two guys rubbing naked up against a single Thai girl with some incidental touching shouldn't be an issue. Both of you find a girl outside, your friend goes wait in the room. No need to stop at reception. He leaves door unlock. 5 minutes later, you come with the girl. Leave her ID with reception. And walk with her to your room with the door unlocked and your buddy already naked. Then the both you can roll her around a flatten. If you get the itch late at night, you guys can find girls or maybe something else on WeChat. Just have them come up to your room. They only need your name and room number. But do tell the girl that there is another guy there. Some girls will bang two guys, no issue. Can't reiterate enough, that this only works with 1 person checking in, so make sure that's done.

    Your best bet is Beach Road freelancers that have all their teeth that run 1000-1500. Go go bars are at least 300 for drinks (even with just water or soda), 1000-2000 for barfine, and 2500-3000 minimum for the girl for short. They are still the highest quality in looks besides LK Metro. You get to see the merchandise before you order. Everywhere else, you are gambling. Soi 6 is so so in talent. Most are overweight, look like hoodrats that once belong to some Esaan Thai street gang or something. Girls are 1000, room and drinks add another 500. It comes down to what you really want to remember about your trip. I can come to Thailand and fuck 10 below average, ugly street girls and pay my hard earned money doing so. To me that is pretty stupid. I can do that in my own country for free. I'm not a unattractive guy. Can't speak for everyone on here and I don't know their story. But I rather go try to find that 1, 2, or 3 girl that I really really want. Quality over quantity. I want to remember the faces and bodies of these girls. I would pay more for that. Remember, the hunt in itself is the best part. Reward yourself with the girl you want, not the budget you set for just any girl. If you want to meet up still in Pattaya, I can get you into any and all the Go Go bars. You have to buy at least 1 drink (non-alcohol is okay), looking at the girls is just as fun. If you are okay with the drink, send me your email or contact via private message. - MP.

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