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02-17-18 20:28 #17886
Posts: 242Originally Posted by PhotoSlider [View Original Post]
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02-17-18 20:27 #17885
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Deer1234 [View Original Post]
Directions from Kyiv to "Myru Ave, 35, Chernihiv, Chernihivs'ka oblast, Ukraine, 14000".
There are trains, taking about 4 hours.
Taxi is 2 hours. Bus is 4-6 USD and under 3 hours:
https://infobus.eu/en/bus/route/from-kiev-to-chernihiv
Respected Forum veterans advise to have the girl come to you in Kiev for multiple reasons.
You may have an adventure of your life In Chernihiv with young Juliette spending few wonderful days for a total of 2000-3000 UAH. Miracles still happen, and there is a chance you'll be the happiest man alive.
Or she may not show up as previously agreed. Risk vs. Reward.
I would cancel apartment reservation and have her travel to you. Unless you are in Ukraine for a month or longer and enjoy exploring less developed corners.
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02-17-18 06:22 #17884
Posts: 79Chernigov again.
Hi,
Thank you very much for your information about how to get to Chernigov.
I booked an apartment in Chernigov following a suggestion from a girl.
The address is:
Prospekt Mira 35.
Chernigov,14000.
You wrote there are two towns of confusing names. How can I get to this Chernigov by public transport from Kiev city center?
I can get to Kyiv bus station.
Originally Posted by Misterxxx [View Original Post]
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02-17-18 06:11 #17883
Posts: 79Pleasure!
Good word!
Originally Posted by PhotoSlider [View Original Post]
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02-17-18 00:28 #17882
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Kozerog [View Original Post]
As for your suggestions about flirting, one thing I did learn from that idiotic PUA forum is the term "congruency", meaning don't pretend to be something you are not, and that's what would happen if I tried to flirt. No one loves unsmiling old men like me, but we are respected. And unsmiling old men with money are recognized as valuable allies.
Also, I don't really want a young women loving me or hanging around me too much. My independent escort was no trouble at all. Always arrived exactly on time, always same preparatory routine including turning smartphone off, quiet and easy to get along with as a cat, always gets up to leave after exactly 3 hours. She's from a village and evidently was strictly brought up. However, I would like some variety, either from agencies or a non-pro mistress.
So now I need to think of what to pay a non-pro. My general rules for any long-term recurring business dealings: don't pay more than I comfortable with or I'll feel resentment; don't try to drive price down too far or other person will feel resentment and I'll also be angry at them for caving in too much and making me feel like a cheapskate; be systematic and logical about prices. If I pay the pro 4000 hrv for 3 hours, then either 2000 or 3000 for the non-pro sponsorette makes sense. 2000 implies over 16000/ month assuming 2 meetings / week, which is generous given that semi-skilled wages (receptionist, etc) are like 6000 hrv. Indeed, even 1000 per 3 hour meeting or 8000/ month would be plenty. But it's hard for me to justify driving a hard bargain given my income. 3000 guarantees that every normal girl will be happy with my offer, whereas top-tier girls might balk at 1000 or even 2000. Girls with 6 inch heels and mouth swelled up like a monkey's anus might scorn even 3000, but I want to be scorned by those women. If fact, driving off those types might be a reason for going with 2000 versus 3000. Have to think more about this.
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02-16-18 20:47 #17881
Posts: 242Originally Posted by TheDriller [View Original Post]
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02-16-18 20:22 #17880
Posts: 242Originally Posted by PhotoSlider [View Original Post]
As for your suggestions about flirting, one thing I did learn from that idiotic PUA forum is the term "congruency", meaning don't pretend to be something you are not, and that's what would happen if I tried to flirt. No one loves unsmiling old men like me, but we are respected. And unsmiling old men with money are recognized as valuable allies.
Also, I don't really want a young women loving me or hanging around me too much. My independent escort was no trouble at all. Always arrived exactly on time, always same preparatory routine including turning smartphone off, quiet and easy to get along with as a cat, always gets up to leave after exactly 3 hours. She's from a village and evidently was strictly brought up. However, I would like some variety, either from agencies or a non-pro mistress.
So now I need to think of what to pay a non-pro. My general rules for any long-term recurring business dealings: don't pay more than I comfortable with or I'll feel resentment; don't try to drive price down too far or other person will feel resentment and I'll also be angry at them for caving in too much and making me feel like a cheapskate; be systematic and logical about prices. If I pay the pro 4000 hrv for 3 hours, then either 2000 or 3000 for the non-pro sponsorette makes sense. 2000 implies over 16000/ month assuming 2 meetings / week, which is generous given that semi-skilled wages (receptionist, etc) are like 6000 hrv. Indeed, even 1000 per 3 hour meeting or 8000/ month would be plenty. But it's hard for me to justify driving a hard bargain given my income. 3000 guarantees that every normal girl will be happy with my offer, whereas top-tier girls might balk at 1000 or even 2000. Girls with 6 inch heels and mouth swelled up like a monkey's anus might scorn even 3000, but I want to be scorned by those women. If fact, driving off those types might be a reason for going with 2000 versus 3000. Have to think more about this.
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02-16-18 18:35 #17879
Posts: 242Originally Posted by Jymondor [View Original Post]
Counterfeiting occurs when the genuine article has a huge profit margin versus generic which looks / feels / works identical. Examples, Rolex watches, Hermes handbags, all fiat currencies. Nobody counterfeits $5 watches and handbags from the discount store or ordinary writing paper because it's not worthwhile, assuming seller has an established storefront and so depends on repeat customers. Buying a huge quantity of $5 watches, etc as a one-time transaction (going out of business auction, etc) is another story.
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02-16-18 16:44 #17878
Posts: 31.
Does anyone has any experience with ukrgo? Specially with the ads that states "not a brothel".
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02-16-18 03:47 #17877
Posts: 1065Originally Posted by Kozerog [View Original Post]
My questions:
- Can I be confident in the quality of branded Cialis or Tadalafil generics purchased in Kiev?
- What Apteka chains should I avoid when buying Cialis or Tadalafil generics?
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02-16-18 01:47 #17876
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Kozerog [View Original Post]
First you need to decide for yourself how much longer do you expect to participate in this social activity? Any returns during your future visits to Ukraine? What happens if, in the unlikely event, some of your dear friends turn a cold shoulder, - would it bother you? If yes, than continue outside of this circle. You achieved sufficient success that way. If overcoming your sense of age is insurmountable, then go with those independent professionals, they might be far better for creating the illusion of happiness and joy.
I would not stop though and focus on the girl I want to have, ignoring others just like everybody else in Kiev. This is social activity, this is not your permanent job. Forget about the age difference and guilt, it never occurs to me while admiring new or old girlfriends. Be honest to yourself first of all, didn't you sign up for that salsa to find ladies? For me anywhere is hunting grounds and open season, even if I am already with one of the girls.
If the dancing partner that you fancy sends unambiguous signals, ask her out for a closer activity, something that you can do one-on-one, to feel her out. Ask her to teach you Ukrainian language. It is beautiful. Let her explain in Ukrainian how to ask the lady out for a date. Possibilities are endless. I ask to teach me different parts of female anatomy. Offer to pay for classes at some neutral territory at first. I would do it at my residence and see her reaction.
That allows to see if she means business or simply plays with you just because she is young and subconsciously wants attention from anybody of the opposite sex. It is to be decided who seduces who).
Do not offer sex for money, unless she starts this conversation. Be a gentleman, treat the lady properly, she'll pay you back and more. Let it flow, but do not let her abuse it. Beware that often even serious flirting doesn't go beyond couple expensive dinners, and at the point of no return she may decline your advances. That is why semi-pros and student girls on mamba are much easier to deal with.
What gives you more pleasure? Spending time with her outside of the bedroom, learning more about each other, winning her heart and soul slowly, or immediate access to the ultimate prize? Is it time, or proverbial bang for the buck? Do you want more girls of certain rating within each day and allocated budget or you want a relationship? I do both interchangeably. 2-3 days at a time for an interesting partner is probably my limit. And I like them waking up in my bedroom, having breakfast together, while she is in my t-shirt, morning kiss and first tender hug. I like a quickie with a new fresh peasant girl running out of my door in 1 hour just as much.
Remove your own mental barriers, sky is the limit. Think of it as a rehearsal, and if it doesn't work out then there are so many options to compensate.
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02-15-18 21:33 #17875
Posts: 268Just filmed my first ever porn video
Hi gents,
How are you? I hope you are doing well.
I just filmed my first ever AV in my lifetime with my Ukrainian girl and I feel awesome. I was recording with my phone when having sex with her and she was totally fine with that except was a bit shy. The video is of much higher quality than those recorded with the facetime camera on mac.
It was a little weird at first, when I saw myself in a porn, but I really enjoy it. She is smoking hot with long legs in stockings and how her boobs wave up and down is really amazing. Masterpiece!
Holding a phone while making love is a bit physically challenging though, but I'm not sure if hiring a cameraman would be a good idea, hahaha.
Happy Spring Festival.
Anthony.
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02-15-18 19:20 #17874
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Kozerog [View Original Post]
Thorough essay by educated expert on important matters.
I do not use any, not because of exceptional masculinity or prowess, more of an attitude (sometimes leading to ladies leaving not fully pleased, and I'm OK with that). Have no disrespect for those who partake. Hell no! The more female and male orgasms the merrier! I stubbornly prefer to try on my own. It's a version of a research study titled "Effects of 18-22 yo females on male libido of an individual observed over multiple decades globally".
Used Ukrainian doctors in Kiev for multiple reasons with great success, and they commented on rampant problem with fake medications in Ukraine across the board. Even plastic or glass ampoules may not contain expected ingredients. Ready to use sealed syringes are more expensive to manufacture, and therefore are likely to be genuine. Kozerog's impeccable analysis of counterfeit pharma philosophy supported by his field experience with sildenafil is undoubtedly a valuable contribution to the subject.
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02-15-18 19:01 #17873
Posts: 268Konegra
Thanks for the previous post about pills. Just to add one more:
Konegra is another substitute of Viagra in Ukrainian. It is cheaper and works just as fine. Haven't experienced any side effects.
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02-15-18 17:10 #17872
Posts: 264Professional advice
That sounds very professional, thanks to Kozerog for this input about sildenafil and taladifil. I've experienced headache as a side-effect and my response was to chop one pill and let 30 min pass between swallowing each half. I now realise that maybe it was the increase in water that saved me!
Let me add one advice: buying from the Taboo- or Intim-shops is not advices. I've had to throw those pills away.
Let me also add thanks for many valuable inputs in this forum recently, both from respected and beginning (soon to be respected) writers. Kiev is constantly changing its ways for mongers.