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03-09-18 17:04 #17933
Posts: 4Originally Posted by KainNYC [View Original Post]
I understand your question.
Mongering Scene in Europe is not easy to describe as it depends of a lot of factors that varies from country to country.
Czech Republic was extremely cheap, but this was 12 years ago.
Now the only thing that is affordable in PRag is "showpark". I like the concept.
There are some small Czech cities with a lot of girls in the border between Bavaria and Czech Republic. It should be very cheap to monger there but I have never been there.
Poland has pretty girls and is cheap indeed, but the girls don't like / offer Paysex.
Latvia is very expensive since € arrived.
Hungary, Budapest, is bit dangerous. Prostitution is not legal there, so they rip you off.
Ukraine is weird situation as Prostitution is not legal, you have to invest a lot of time to make the contacts. I don't like this very much I don't have so much leisure time in my life.
Berlin is a city that you should take into consideration.
Advantages of Berlin:
Prostitution in Germany is legal, so the market is transparent.
Transport: You can move everywhere with metro or train, so you don't need to pay for taxi. (you don't need to read Kiril, and in the mongering scene people speak English).
Berlin is not an expensive city. Accommodation and food is affordable. There is an open minded mentality to sex and nudism.
People from different nations live in Berlin, so you can find the following girls in Berlin: Germans, Russian, Polish, Romanian, Asian, Balcan and some mixed ethnicity that are very hot.
Berlin has also other stuff to offer. So, you will not get bored.
1. - You have at least three big GB Clubs that you pay entrance (90€-120€) and can stay there all day. You get food, TV, and you can have a lot of times sex. And the girls are mostly hot. If you just want to stay few hours you pay the half. The atmosphere is cool.
2. - In Berlin you have a lot erotic massage parlors. The services varies as it depends from the girl. But very often the service is superb, specially if you are handsome to the girl. And you can ask for many extras. Massages start from 50 € for 30 min.
3. - if you are looking for girls looking like dolls and you have more money you can go to Artemis and hang around there. They have a lot of nationalities, I think, mostly "European" girls. Food is included.
4. - There are some basic Brothels, that work 24 hours. And you pay there 50 € - 60 € for 30 min.
4. - And there are some Websites, also for professionals.
Have fun,
J.
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03-09-18 16:53 #17932
Posts: 709Originally Posted by KainNYC [View Original Post]
Ukraine has by far the least expensive pussy in Europe. But you're not likely to find it as a tourist.
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03-09-18 14:44 #17931
Posts: 140Poland? You're joking. Polish in the European Union.
Originally Posted by KainNYC [View Original Post]
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03-09-18 12:30 #17930
Posts: 23Different Alina Rotaru!
There are two Alina Rotarus. Both have done modelling work, though one, as you say, is a long jumper. Both are cute, but it is the other Alina Rotaru (who also goes under the names Aya Beshen and Elin) that interests me. There are pages for her on vk.com and podiumlife.
Check out https://www.indexxx.com/models/95471/aya-beshen/ and her page on top-modelz.
Originally Posted by AntonySun1996 [View Original Post]
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03-09-18 02:00 #17929
Posts: 40So where do you we go for less expensive euro girls?
I heard it is hard to monger in Krakow, is that accurate? Where can we find less expensive euro girls? Thanks, P.S. There must be a country that is less expensive, standard.
Originally Posted by Tomek123 [View Original Post]
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03-08-18 23:17 #17928
Posts: 2794Nice report. T. Guys are a major issue in Ukraine and in my opinion this on major issues in the decline in Kiev, people do not want to admit this, but is the truth. They just do not behave for a variety or reasons, mostly because they can get away with bad and inappropriate behavior. In Russia T. Guys behave and act much better. Rules are enforced in Russia and they do not tolerate there behavior, this is why I enjoy Russia, so much more, not mention the girls are so much better looking, fun and little bit more honest.
Kiev they need there money and Ukraine women for whatever reason like the guys. Russian women do not, but up with there crap as much, but there are still exceptions.
Originally Posted by Tomek123 [View Original Post]
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03-08-18 16:41 #17927
Posts: 258Originally Posted by Scungo [View Original Post]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alina_Rotaru
Looks pretty though.
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03-08-18 15:08 #17926
Posts: 690International Womens Day.
Don't forget to send flowers to your special girls today!
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03-08-18 14:50 #17925
Posts: 140This is the economy, this is the law of the market.
Originally Posted by Stevie69 [View Original Post]
And after 2 hours we already hear heavy men's breath hear slaps on the ass and men's raucous cries in the corridor of some hotel and cries in the style of Pierre Woodman! Yes! Aaaa. Oh, yes! AAAA. AAAA. Yeee. Yes. I cummm. AA, . I'm not the first year in Ukraine and I can perfectly see how easy it sometimes happens when a girl really wants to buy herself new beautiful shoes or good cosmetics. A beautiful young girl next to it is always stress for most men. Add some more alcohol here. This lawyer from Istanbul simply begins to think of another head. In his pants. He sees beautiful hair and long legs and an ass in short shorts and his penis sticks out like an iron pipe. Or is it a lawyer from Toronto. He understands that a similar girl in Toronto can cost even 800-1 000 dollars. This is not an African American girl. Not Mexican. No body from Cambodia or Vietnam. This is a beautiful white girl. Not so many beautiful young white girls in Canada in general are ready to fuck for money. They just do not need money. And not every beautiful girl in Canada man dare to offer sex for money. In the end it can end with an appeal to the police and problems. You can easily get into an idiotic situation. To meet on the street in Canada with young nice white girl with the words of my Canadian friend this is not the same as getting acquainted in Kiev.
But here this guy from Canada understands that this girl in short shorts can be in his bed. Understanding this deprives him of the ability to think rationally. You can talk to such a man man, $ 150 is too much. Do not do it! !! You raise the price! You're an idiot!! It is enough for half of this amount! Do not be a nerd! You're an idiot!! It is enough for half of this amount! Do not be a nerd! But it all does not matter. His reason is not capable of working rationally. He sees before him a good ass in short shorts and his dick stands like a stick. This needs to be understood. While there are enough guys willing to pay 100-200 dollars to finish the mouth of a beautiful student from Kiev, the prices will not fall.
This is the law of the market. If you can rent your apartment in a city like Kharkov for 4000 hryvnia per month, then you will not rent it for 2,000 hryvnia. Why, if you can have twice as much. What is in it logics? If there is a severe crisis, then the rental price also falls quickly. Because people can not withdraw for such money. So with girls. If the girl understands that she can get not 1500 hryvnia and 2500, then why should she have less? We can hate or curse the guys who raise the prices. But this is the market. It hurts so hard on guys like me who earn less than the guys from Canada.
Yes. Poland is not USA or UK or Canada unfortunately. Yes. But I have to do more street work and look for a pussy away from Kiev. This is my tactic. But what can I do?
Many western guys from sultry Greece to cold forest Canada want to fuck a tall thin white pussy with blue eyes and white skin or finish it in her mouth.
There are only a few countries in the world where they can find such a pussy at a cheap price. It's Russia and Ukraine. But still add to this list of Arab and Turkish guys. Who also want a Ukrainian white pussy. But Ukrainian girls do not get any more. On the contrary. Many girls leave for rich countries and stay there forever. Many marry Western guys. For Turkish guys. For Arab guys married.
So pussy and hot mouth will inevitably grow in price. It's a market. Especially for many guys fucking a white European girl it's still a much more keen pleasure than fucking Vietnamese or Thai girls. Or in Kenya or Swaziland.
We can hate these guys and curse them for their stupidity. But what can we do. We can write a million times here on the forum-do not raise the price! This pussy is not worth 150 dollars! It costs 70 dollars! Do not be idiots!
Yes. But what will it change? This is the economy, this is the law of the market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR89NL7ho7I
Nice video. Cute Ukrainian girls dancing.
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03-07-18 14:19 #17924
Posts: 23High-end beauties.
I've got a real hard-on for a Ukrainian beauty called Alina Rotaru / Aya Beshen? Would really love to spend some time with her, either as an escort or just to take some explicit pics.
I had a few model types in Kiev before, but it was a long time ago through a guy whose name (if I remember it right) was Viktor Gachenko. I don't have any contacts there any more.
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03-06-18 22:48 #17923
Posts: 258The best GIA girl?
Hi gents,
Some other questions that I would like to humbly ask you.
I have never tried GIA, but during my next trip I would. Which GIA girl is the best do you think?
I know that GIA has quality control, but from their photos I could see that not all of them are hot to me.
I prefer blondes with decently big boobs, and it seems that Sonia is the right one.
Has anyone had experience with Sonia? Is she as hot as in photos? Or do you have other girls to recommend?
With much thanks.
Anthony.
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03-06-18 22:01 #17922
Posts: 258Girls with real profiles online.
Hi gents,
Would anyone like to share some real profiles of girls on websites? Blonde, and big boobs preferred.
Cheers.
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03-06-18 20:49 #17921
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Timmy21 [View Original Post]
The difference with regular call girls agency is the price, and how the customers and girls are treated. GIA doesn't call 10 seconds before customer is about to ejaculate asking if he would like to extend for another hour when his time expires in 10 minutes.
GIA also claims girls have a choice in making their decisions on when to work or not, as well as DFK and such. Up to a point they certainly do, as long as GIA itself makes enough money. Not sure why GIA doesn't expand beyond 30-40 girls. Perhaps that's the saturation point for this market segment. GIA mentioned they have many candidates per single vacancy when it opens up.
Once upon a time I ordered 20 years old Emily from Krasnoarmeyska / Velika Vasilkovska 42. Agency took 1800 UAH an hour. At my place she kept pushing BBBJ and DATY extras, I declined upsell because BBBJ doesn't mean much to me, and most important she wasn't that great in bed. Attractive physically but not emotionally she was the usual nervous girl that didn't enjoy it anymore and only cared about the money. She insisted one more time on extras complaining about her miserable life saying that out of 1800 base fee she gets only something like 300 or 600, I forgot the exact number. I thought that she would have better upsell and extend chances if she delivered higher quality basic services and simply said good bye. I almost never pay for extras to anybody, no matter how hot. Prefer that the girl does it because she is delighted, because she wants it herself as the action progresses. Not because she earns more. Monetary factor should be out of the way beforehand, seems to affect my erection otherwise).
My ratio during visiting Kiev is for every 10 hourly call girls I do 1 visit to Rio with or without takeout, and 1 or 2 GIA longer appointments. I like the variety and surprise factor that good hourly call girl non-GIA agency provides. GIA is expensive, but with them usually I do not have to worry about quality, and take the pleasure of having company of an elegant girl.
One law student said in 2003: "This is a job for me and I decided that I might as well be very good at what I am doing here and take the pleasure in it myself".
In 2016 I asked another young beauty:
- What do you do?
- I give happiness to people!
- Certainly. And besides that?
- I am biochemistry student.
Only true independents get 100%. I wonder if any of the mamba girls pay protection money.
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03-06-18 07:00 #17920
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Stevie69 [View Original Post]
Or at least when she's acting convincingly enough.
Agree that 1 hour is sufficient for most of the outcalls coming to you. 1 out of 10 or so I extend to 2 hours.
If she's an intelligent GIA girl, or a well known GF, then for myself 6-8 hours is a minimum to experience the joy to full extent, and 2-3 days is not unheard of. 10 days might be stretching it too far even for exceptional ones. By 6th or 7th day I start cheating on my dedicated beauties even while they are guarding their source of income and tell me not to tip the girls in Rio while visiting together. That's BTW is the selection criteria. If GF du jour enjoys going to stripclub together, then it is a relationship that has a chance to last many years, otherwise she gets pushed aside because personal freedom is paramount.
...The cover charge, little sexy dress, high heeled shoes, hair, make-up, nails, and handbag, all add to their overhead costs, and they have to recoup them...
The morning after without any make up is even more fun, as some girls become shy, some are proud of their natural beauty walking around in my T-shirt. Handbag and iPhone model I could care less about, as they do not add to performance. They are status symbols, and maybe I am atypical monger, as I find Huawei smartphone or old model Samsung so cute and special in the hands of a sophomore student! That means she doesn't have enough money, and I can and am willing to help.
It is not just the money. You really do not know what you will get until after you get it. Even a playboy playmate lookalike, for 5000 UAH, could end up giving you uninspired sex. For that much, you could try out 2 or 3 university students or young single mums, and found one that was worth repeating. Next time, you can ask her to put on her sexiest little dress and high heels!
High heels are good when we go out and she is so much taller. It used to concern me, and then one masseuse explained that it is actually so cool to be escorted by a taller lady or even two of them. After that I stopped requesting GIA to send me girls with low profile shoes. One of them "forgot" her louboutins in my residence. Kiev ladies are so creative.
Great post, Stevie!
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03-06-18 06:03 #17919
Posts: 79Gia.
Remember that GIA, hardened professionals, charge 4000 to 5000 UAH, and HALF of it goes to the house. An occasional semi-pro 25 year old secretary should be absolutely happy with 2000 UAH. If you meet her 3 times, she has doubled her month salary!
It's actually 60-40; the house receiving 60 percent. Greasing police and politicians is expensive.