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[Pistons]

Am I allowed to pay 100 Euro / hour?

Only allowed if you extend after 27 minutes if you still got your cock inside her after 20 minutes and feel in good shape. It happens, occasionally, just not too often. Agreements beforehand should not be allowed.

[Takedown]

As you said, the main advantage of Sharks is the big number of girls so it means that if you're really looking for one or two optic types you have more chance to find it in Sharks, the problem is what come after you found the girl.

I used to be shy / polite and not want to ask how the girls are in the room. Now I just say straight to them, "I don't like it when the girl just lays there like a doll. I don't like it when the girl does not want to kiss me. " If they ask for more money, then I just don't go. With that speech, I've only had one truly bad room, Lily at Sharks.

[BigBuddy69]

If you know enough girls in those clubs who will give you a good service without trying to fuck you with the price that's good for you. But for me the optics (at least in Sharks and World) are not so spectacular and the constant upselling or bitching about the price is WAY TOO annoying. As you said, the main advantage of Sharks is the big number of girls so it means that if you're really looking for one or two optic types you have more chance to find it in Sharks, the problem is what come after you found the girl.

For me the ratio (attractive girls for me)/(total number of girls) is quite the same in every club (ok maybe not in PSR and Aca Gold) but I like to be sure that when I find an attractive girl, the probabilities are good that she will give a good service without trying to fuck me or extort me more money.

[Takedown]

Finca Erotica is one hour drive from Hessen, Bahama is maybe 20 minutes from Frankfurt and bears still gather in Sharks / Oase / Upsell-land, go figure.

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Because I can always go to Oase and Sharks and still find 3 good rooms. I cannot say that I would always find 3 girls that I would want at Finca. Never been to Bahama. Some guys start with Service level first and optics second. I say find the good optics then weed out the bad service or upsellers. If I wanted to fuck 7's, I could get there for free at home.

[Takedown]

Indeed, so everybody STOP paying 100 euro in sharks / oase! No excuses! I am leaning towards more Austria this year and less Germany due to this recent upsell uptick in Germany and hessen especially. If the girls go silly, I will speak with my wallet and close it far more often!

NRW is slightly better although facilities there are not as good. Maybe except YY and Oceans facilities to some degree.

Am I allowed to pay 100 Euro / hour?

[Pistons]

Speaking of Russian / Belarus girls. Why arent there any in FKKs?

Is it visa issues. And if so, how are there so many working russians in madrid.

It is tax issues. But I also wonder how we still have some African girls and the rare Latino girl. It should be the same issues for them.

[Sirioja]

Speaking of Russian / Belarus girls. Why arent there any in FKKs?

Is it visa issues. And if so, how are there so many working russians in madrid.

Few Russians or Latvians in Germany, but top Russian beauties are escorting for more expensive. 2 real beauties at the moment in Paris for me. With ski Worldcup finals in R. Sw on this week end, it should be a Russian week end, maybe no FKK since long time.

Even at Globe Zurich for 280 CHF / h, not many Russian girls.

[HeyyyyyyPaul]

Polyamorist.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...124&viewfull=1#post2151124 is a great report from ex FKK regular Cane, who seems to have a taste of the promised land in Madrid.
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Speaking of Russian / Belarus girls. Why arent there any in FKKs?

Is it visa issues. And if so, how are there so many working russians in madrid.

[BigBuddy69]

You're totally right, facilities have nothing in common. The thing is: I don't give a fuck about the garden, the sauna and whatever. I come there to have good sex, if I want to swim there's a swimming pool 10 km from my place. The only thing that matters to me is the food, but it's not enough to make me avoid a club or go in another. I even eat the food at velbert!

[Pistons]

Indeed, so everybody STOP paying 100 euro in sharks / oase! No excuses! I am leaning towards more Austria this year and less Germany due to this recent upsell uptick in Germany and hessen especially. If the girls go silly, I will speak with my wallet and close it far more often!

NRW is slightly better although facilities there are not as good. Maybe except YY and Oceans facilities to some degree.

[Sirioja]

Finca Erotica is one hour drive from Hessen, Bahama is maybe 20 minutes from Frankfurt and bears still gather in Sharks / Oase / Upsell-land, go figure.

Switzerland is WAY TOO expensive for me, I'm not going to save my money and eat vegetables during one month to have only one afternoon of fun. And I'm pretty sure you get the same experience than in Germany but for three times the price. The customers are responsible for the downfall of the Hessen scene, normally when you get fucked in the ass everytime you go to a place, you stop coming unless you like it deep.

You can find club rate girls at Sharks and even Oase at the moment, and at least you can have few pretty girls at Oase, compare to LR with so average casting since Christmas. I don t see a Lora. Hu at LR, always smiling when You have enthusiastic sex with her for 30 full minutes for only 50 €. Oase is improving for girls, unfortunately not LR who becomes GND land.

Entry can be 50 at Oase or Sharks, with better foods than LR for 60. Better to know the reality. But LR worth for free beer in bottle and friendly staff. Many beer brands.

Switzerland is not always much more expensive, can have high level sex at Swiss Dietikon for 89 CHF = 83 € , where I had nearly 40 mn, high GFE rooms.

Always better to open eyes and mind, to be able to look around.

[BigBuddy69]

Finca Erotica is one hour drive from Hessen, Bahama is maybe 20 minutes from Frankfurt and bears still gather in Sharks / Oase / Upsell-land, go figure.

Switzerland is WAY TOO expensive for me, I'm not going to save my money and eat vegetables during one month to have only one afternoon of fun. And I'm pretty sure you get the same experience than in Germany but for three times the price. The customers are responsible for the downfall of the Hessen scene, normally when you get fucked in the ass everytime you go to a place, you stop coming unless you like it deep.

[Polyamorist]

I hope that doesn't mean Sharks is done for. For the first time, I had a hard time with real kissing on my last trip. Even for 1 HR rooms.

Boycotting specific girls, sure. But boycotting a club entirely? It may work eventually, but it's hardly easy. If boycotting, you better be in it for the long haul. Oase is just now improving after 2+ years of boycotting by the locals. As a fly in monger, is it really worth it for me to get behind such efforts?

As a fly-in monger you have a lot more choice than the locals. "Soar like an eagle beyond skies of heavens reach! As wings of dreams dance with winds of reality. " -- Shah Rizvi.

For any guys who are not lucky enough to live in a hidden Arab kingdom where virgins are as numerous as palms in the jannah, I was wondering: why aren't you in Switzerland? It sounds like the Hessen bears end up paying 100 EUR anyway, so not much price difference. (Optimist, I've already tried Spain and have no respect for that scene.).

[Sirioja]

Tuesday late pm / evening.

- which will be best lineup GT, YY, 6 sens?

I know not the best night to go!

GT for casting. Closed at 1 am.

Same close for 2 others.

[DukesFord]

Hello everyone,

I plan on visiting to the promise Land once again! I will be partaking three days in Frankfurt area and the rest in NRW. If anyone had advice on the days in NRW please let me know. I've looked up weather and it's not summer yet but I am hoping some clubs like GT will have more girls. Based on everything in this form I know kibeups will vary but generally some days are better than others. I am not sure how Monday and Tuesdays are in the NRW.

Saturday Sharks.

Sunday. Palace if Roxanna is available or Sharks if the lineup was high caliber or Oase.

Monday. Golden Time.

Tuesday. YinYang.

Wednesday. Golden Time / LR.

Thursday Living Room / GT.

Friday Aca Velbret.

Saturday Sharks.