North China - Beijing

[Tazman099]

1688! Yowza. Is that inside the 2nd ring road?

Great first post.

[Haidian61]

This was a disaster of a session But let me start at the beginning.

I found a card with a QR code and it was stuck in my door like many other cards but they just have a phone number this only had a qr code. So I scanned it and started speaking to a person about a place not to far from me and in the contacts moments were some pics of a fancy massage place. I was given the price of 1688 and told this was a full session. I booked a time for 9 pm and went round.

1688! Yowza. Is that inside the 2nd ring road?

On second thought, that is not far from the "non VIP" price at the Massage Spa about two avenues north of BLCU, in the big KTV next to the Merry Mart shopping center. But they'd almost never charge that, since they are loathe to book anything above an "erotic" massage to someone without a VIP card. The VIP membership is a 14% discount (so 86% of the nominal full price), and then a further sliding discount based on how much you sign up for. They advertise 3000 RMB getting a 1000 RMB bonus and 5000 RMB getting a 2000 RMB bonus (But have been known to be talked into a 500 RMB bonus for a 2000 RMB deposit). So all up, with 3000 RMB put on a VIP card, that is about 65% of the nominal list price.

The 400 list vegetarian oil massage and 600 list "erotic" massage (where the massage girl attempts to generate enough stimulation for a happy ending but stops short of a hand job), come with use of the shower but not the hot soak and bubble bath with personal attention of the massage girl. Then there are three levels of "spa" service, all with hot soak and bubble bath, level three for 700 RMB list, 600 RMB VIP (discounted by whatever bonus for pay in advance) is the oil massage and hand job, level two for 1200 RMB list, 1000 RMB VIP is the oil massage with a bit of body to body massage and titty fuck, and I assume the level one is full service, which affair is about 1400 RMB list, so around 1200 VIP. And the quality of the massage is variable with the girl for the spa services. A regular customer would want to learn the numbers of the different girls to ask for the ones that do a better job on the massage part.

I would not be surprised if they are exactly the same girls that show up to your home / hotel if you call the right number, advertised with someone else's picture and with an age that is 5-10 years younger than they really are. The only reasons to go is that you actually also want a massage, or you are not free to call a girl to your home / hotel.

If you want to avoid pay in advance and just want an oil massage and hand relief, there is a "spa" by the south gate of Tsinghua that does that, it advertises a cheap foot massage out front and shares the street entrance with a laundry, about two bus stops east of the Wudaokou stop on Line 13.600 RMB for oil massage and happy ending, but don't expect more than a hand job to be available, and the "spa" is a hand shower attachment in one of the toilet stalls. And if you want to negotiate your own price and service with the massage girl, the massage spa down near the end of the street just east of the Wudaokou Line 13 stop (when you see the one that is closed with a lock and an official shutdown notice, you are about halfway there), near the last stop on the 398 bus route south, has a spa oil massage with a tub for 500 RMB, but anything more than a massage is negotiated with the massage girl at the flip. I was quoted an outrageous price for a hand job, but the teasing part of the message before the quote was too effective, and it was already unnecessary. I assume it was normal Chinese market stall strategy of quoting five times the price you want and if the silly laowai insists on half you get a big bonus anyway.

But go north of the 5th Ring Road, say to Huilongguanzhen in Changping, a block and a half north of the Huilongguan exit on Line 13 on Wenhua road, and a oil massage with hand relief is 500 RMB, no VIP card or negotiation with the massage girl required. Though I'd expect a VIP plan and discount would be available. I didn't exactly take notes, but I expect the body to body and full service massages are similarly lower priced than they are between the 3rd and 4th Ring Road in Haidian.

The shift in the market is due to government policy. Heaven may be high and the emperor may be far away for most of China, but inside the 5th Ring Road in Beijing, the Emperor is uncomfortably close at hand. The government has seemed to have decided that red light activities are not part of the "capital city functions" that are slated for inside the 5th Ring Road and, like the best fabric and textile markets, have taken action to drive the best of them out of town.

[Bekham7]

Folks,

I'm officially declaring Beijing one of the worst if not the worst city in Asia for Mongering. I have been all over Asia many times and I can safely say, Beijing is in a race to the bottom in terms of Value (quality / price).

When the highlight of the board is a chubby Chinese rated 5 charging 700 rmb or a Mongolian charging 1500 to 3000 rmb, something is terribly wrong.

I don't want to be a tree huger but in the year 2000 to 2010, you could find Chinese 8, 9 10 , Thai and other nationalities. All over Beijing (no need to list the places, old-timers knows them well). The Mongolians at old Maggies were one of the options and had to be competitive on price and service. And they were because you had many possibilities within few miles.

I wish you had posted this 6 months ago.

Would have never trusted those online sites.

[TAZ77]

This is a typical occurrence at the high end spas (I also took the bait once).

This was a disaster of a session But let me start at the beginning.

I found a card with a QR code and it was stuck in my door like many other cards but they just have a phone number this only had a qr code. So I scanned it and started speaking to a person about a place not to far from me and in the contacts moments were some pics of a fancy massage place. I was given the price of 1688 and told this was a full session. I booked a time for 9 pm and went round.

When I get there, located in Beiyuan, I entered a lift of a somewhat fancy building to it's second floor and entered a nice looking place. Very fancy with women walking around everywhere and everyone was smiling and happy. I was seated and given some tea as they checked my booking, then I paid the 1688 as agreed. I get taken to a room and there is a large masseuse table and a bathroom with shower toilet. I am told to shower and then the woman will come and do a massage service. To this point things are good. I've showered and now in a the thin briefs they make you wear when you get out of the shower and she doing a good massage on my back and lower back on the top of my buttock area. Then this woman just walks in without knocking and using her phone to speak to me on wechat asks if I want to level up. Basically asking me if I wanted sex. I say yes of course. Then it all goes to shit. She says it will cost extra as this is VIP service. Fair enough, I expected this but she hits me with the price 35000! She says this is good for 20 uses. I tell her that it's more money then I have by a long shot. She says that's how they run the place and you have to buy bulk. I call BS and tell her no, there is no way. She keeps trying to push it on me but I refuse again and again. Then she offers me 5000 for 3 uses. I say no again. Note I already paid 1688 and I wasn't going to pay anymore then about 500/1000 more. She keeps asking. Now note the woman who was doing the massage was still working as this was going and it was getting a bit frustrating for me as this conversation was happening at the same time. It kinda pissed me off a bit. Like this could have happened at the end of the massage or at the start of it and not right in the sway of things. The mood was killed. The woman had left by this point and after I had refused to pay 5000 she got the message and left the room. The woman returns and turns me over and starts tickle teasing my LJ and I was just not having it. A total waste of time and the mood was dead. I guessed the woman was trying to get me excited for a HJ but I was just not in the mood I tried to touch and maybe make the most out of the session but the woman wasn't having it. I got up showered and then left.

[BirthdayBoy]

This was a disaster of a session But let me start at the beginning.

I found a card with a QR code and it was stuck in my door like many other cards but they just have a phone number this only had a qr code. So I scanned it and started speaking to a person about a place not to far from me and in the contacts moments were some pics of a fancy massage place. I was given the price of 1688 and told this was a full session. I booked a time for 9 pm and went round.

When I get there, located in Beiyuan, I entered a lift of a somewhat fancy building to it's second floor and entered a nice looking place. Very fancy with women walking around everywhere and everyone was smiling and happy. I was seated and given some tea as they checked my booking, then I paid the 1688 as agreed. I get taken to a room and there is a large masseuse table and a bathroom with shower toilet. I am told to shower and then the woman will come and do a massage service. To this point things are good. I've showered and now in a the thin briefs they make you wear when you get out of the shower and she doing a good massage on my back and lower back on the top of my buttock area. Then this woman just walks in without knocking and using her phone to speak to me on wechat asks if I want to level up. Basically asking me if I wanted sex. I say yes of course. Then it all goes to shit. She says it will cost extra as this is VIP service. Fair enough, I expected this but she hits me with the price 35000! She says this is good for 20 uses. I tell her that it's more money then I have by a long shot. She says that's how they run the place and you have to buy bulk. I call BS and tell her no, there is no way. She keeps trying to push it on me but I refuse again and again. Then she offers me 5000 for 3 uses. I say no again. Note I already paid 1688 and I wasn't going to pay anymore then about 500/1000 more. She keeps asking. Now note the woman who was doing the massage was still working as this was going and it was getting a bit frustrating for me as this conversation was happening at the same time. It kinda pissed me off a bit. Like this could have happened at the end of the massage or at the start of it and not right in the sway of things. The mood was killed. The woman had left by this point and after I had refused to pay 5000 she got the message and left the room. The woman returns and turns me over and starts tickle teasing my LJ and I was just not having it. A total waste of time and the mood was dead. I guessed the woman was trying to get me excited for a HJ but I was just not in the mood I tried to touch and maybe make the most out of the session but the woman wasn't having it. I got up showered and then left.

[Bad Boy Billy]

Cialis also. Most pharmacies will have either or both. Prices are not giveaway but not over the top either.

[California8]

You can buy it at any pharmacy without a prescription. They will suggest a cheaper imitation since I guess the patent on Viagra has expired but up to you if you want the real viagra. Pharmacies are everywhere in Beijing. Just look for green signage.

I can confirm that I too have just walked into a pharmacy, shown them the Chinese word for Viagra on my phone's translator and purchased them without a prescription in many cities in China.

[Midwestern]

Hey guys,

I have a quick question that might also interest a lot of other readers. I used to live in Seoul and I would buy Viagra from a sex shop I knew. But unfortunately, since moving to Beijing, I can't find another avenue to get it. Do any of you know an alternative method to get Viagra or Cialis in Beijing sans perscription? I looked on Taobao and JD but I need a perscription to do that apparently. Maybe I can go to a pharmacy and just ask? Or do I need to go make a doctors appountment? I am eagerly awaiting any information. Thanks!

You can buy it at any pharmacy without a prescription. They will suggest a cheaper imitation since I guess the patent on Viagra has expired but up to you if you want the real viagra. Pharmacies are everywhere in Beijing. Just look for green signage.

[Leviton6]

Hey guys,

I have a quick question that might also interest a lot of other readers. I used to live in Seoul and I would buy Viagra from a sex shop I knew. But unfortunately, since moving to Beijing, I can't find another avenue to get it. Do any of you know an alternative method to get Viagra or Cialis in Beijing sans perscription? I looked on Taobao and JD but I need a perscription to do that apparently. Maybe I can go to a pharmacy and just ask? Or do I need to go make a doctors appountment? I am eagerly awaiting any information. Thanks!

Sorry, the only place I have bought the little blue pills or equivalent is in Shanghai near JingAn area.

[Hellas1821]

Hey guys,

I have a quick question that might also interest a lot of other readers. I used to live in Seoul and I would buy Viagra from a sex shop I knew. But unfortunately, since moving to Beijing, I can't find another avenue to get it. Do any of you know an alternative method to get Viagra or Cialis in Beijing sans perscription? I looked on Taobao and JD but I need a perscription to do that apparently. Maybe I can go to a pharmacy and just ask? Or do I need to go make a doctors appountment? I am eagerly awaiting any information. Thanks!

[Burn Notice]

If you read my last post, you probably noticed my depression about Beijing crashing and burning in terms of Mongering. I like the Mongolians in Maggie's but I think they need to suffer from a lack of demand for while to readjust their cockiness and their pricing.

That being said with my two neighbors, we decided to import our service from the place where in my book there is the most beauty per sq footage in Asia and maybe the world, Manhattan in Shanghai! My friend and I took a trip to Shanghai two weeks ago and we met two very hot Vietnamese girls (in any night they would have been on top of the list at Maggie's). Damage, 2000 rmb for an all-night and my god it was such a delight. We connected so well with the girls that at the breakfast the next morning, my friend starts to make plans with his girl to bring her the next weekend in Beijing. Train tickets two ways 1100 rmb and he give 3000 rmb for the weekend. The girl was very happy and accepted immediately. My girl turn around and ask me, "Can I go to? At first, I was kind of no but I thought about it and 4000 rmb to have this girl all weekend, why not. Then they ask if their 3rd friend could come to. We look at each other and asks, 'How does she look?' Open up wechat and showed us some pics and both we were shaking our head up and down, yes! She has to come but we need a third wheel to balance the bill.

Wechat our buddy in Beijing, after recovering from a mild heart attack on our proposal to pay 4000 rmb for a girl, he accepted. Now we have a deal, the 3 girls will show up for us in Beijing the weekend after.

We sent the train tickets, girls had a blast on the train and arrived in Beijing last Friday around 1:30 in the afternoon. They all come to my apartment where we all meet and have dinner together. My girl stay with me and the other two girls went to the apartment of my friends, then we all met at 11:00 at Mei bar for party.

To make a long story short, it was one of my best weekend in Beijing in a long time. Being with 3 Girls who are friends and are very happy makes a all lot of difference on the girlfriend experience. Every site visit or dinner or occasion to get together end up as a party. Girls are definitely more generous in bed, sex is just great.

But to be honest you need to add the cost of dinner and taking them out to your budget so I calculate that the real total cost was around 7000 rmb. But worth the time to type it on ISG!

[Worm]

Hi GB, yep, and that's how the hotel knew she was in my room. This is another reason why it may be pointless to sneek girls into the room. And besides, hotels don't care who you're boffing but they may care if you are sneeking people into the hotel.

Yes, I once stayed in a five star in Shanghai the night before my wife arrived and had a girl over. A condom wrapper was left behind and I didn't notice, but the ball and chain did. She called the front desk to complain of the poor housekeeping, and they called up the video to show I had brought a girl in. They contacted me and gave me a few hours to explain to the ball and chain before they sent her the video.

[Midwestern]

If I remember right you were long living in China. In every hotel there are cameras on each floor and they are always monitored.

Hi GB, yep, and that's how the hotel knew she was in my room. This is another reason why it may be pointless to sneek girls into the room. And besides, hotels don't care who you're boffing but they may care if you are sneeking people into the hotel.

[FictionalSpace]

Well. Followed my little head to Palace Club (or something like that) near Baiziwan Station. Without writing a super long review, here are a few highlights:

- 1580 fee. Thought this was for full service. Turns out it's a membership-style joint and I needed to pay more for service.

- Didn't have enough cash for the second fee but had been teased enough that I let the girl put a robe on me and walk me OUTSIDE and down the block to the ATM. Me in nothing but a robe and slippers and her in a very revealing outfit. In the middle of the afternoon. I won't soon forget the looks I got.

- Paid the new, higher fee. Led back to the nice room. Extensive cat bath followed by an oily HJ.

- Spent a ton of money for something I could have done myself.

- Live and learn, I guess.

- Maybe a Chinese speaker will have a better understanding of what happened to me this weekend.

- I miss the Shanghai saunas. I think I'm done mongering in Beijing.

[GregoryB]

If I remember right you were long living in China. In every hotel there are cameras on each floor and they are always monitored.

There is so much discussion on ways to sneak girls into the hotel room. I used to always do the same. But several years ago, I had an incident after I snuck a girl into my room. The hotel manager rang my room an hour or so later and told me the police was looking for the girl that was with me. So I quickly told the girl to leave. I later went down and talked to the manager and his English was not good but I guess the girl and some goon were going to scam me somehow but I don't know how the police got involved so quickly. Anyway, the manager lectured to me that hotels always want me to register my guests because the hotel wants to protect me. They want to make sure nothing bad happens to me. This really sunk in, and for a while I always registered the girls and it gave me peace of mind knowing that the hotel had the girl's identification. This especially was useful with freelancers. With a reputable agency maybe you don't need to register the girls because the girls know that I can report them to their agency.

Just my pov.