FKK Mainhattan- Frankfurt

[Hermann666]

It's funny isn't it? You go to Sharks and Oase and think the LU is ok but not spectacular. Even Paradise (Stuttgart this week). But you venture to Mainhattan and in 2 hours you seriously cannot find ONE girl who is above 5/10. Rare for me to leave without a single session. Arrived 1 am so admittedly late. Only one girl half fit the bill. Kylie - sure. Like Ausy Kylie? No! Facially 5/10 body 7/10. And for me the best looking package in the club!! 😰😰 300 one hour baby (for DFK / BBBJ and CIM). I burst out laughing and ask if she is paying me! I was approached by 11 girls. I rejected them all and went home without a single session. Food 1/10. LU 1/10. Lesson learned. Won't be back. Truly awful. Wished I had spent 100 e and gone to Oase (again) or Sharks. Mainhattan is a waste of money unless you can fuck without looking at their faces. Even then - not a really fit body in the whole club. One girl tells me you have a fantastic body baby- we go to room please?. Highlight of the night? Sure I work out a lot but truly the standard here is REALLY poor. Id have refused if it was 20e for an hour. Honestly that bad. From history I actually like the rooms at Mainhattan - didnt get to see one this time and its goodbye from me. Wont be returning. I have ruled out what I call the cancer lounge at LR - main room is guaranteed to give you cancer whether you smoke or not - and now - Mainhattan is my 2nd never again club. Dreadful. Id rather wank myself off for free.

My one and only visit to Mainhattan was kind of the same. I had heard good things about the club but I left after an hour or so and drove to Palace instead. I also couldn't find a girl at Mainhattan that attracted med visually. Palace was great though.

[PayForIt]

It's funny isn't it? You go to Sharks and Oase and think the LU is ok but not spectacular. Even Paradise (Stuttgart this week). But you venture to Mainhattan and in 2 hours you seriously cannot find ONE girl who is above 5/10. Rare for me to leave without a single session. Arrived 1 am so admittedly late. Only one girl half fit the bill. Kylie - sure. Like Ausy Kylie? No! Facially 5/10 body 7/10. And for me the best looking package in the club!! 😰😰 300 one hour baby (for DFK / BBBJ and CIM). I burst out laughing and ask if she is paying me! I was approached by 11 girls. I rejected them all and went home without a single session. Food 1/10. LU 1/10. Lesson learned. Won't be back. Truly awful. Wished I had spent 100 e and gone to Oase (again) or Sharks. Mainhattan is a waste of money unless you can fuck without looking at their faces. Even then - not a really fit body in the whole club. One girl tells me you have a fantastic body baby- we go to room please?. Highlight of the night? Sure I work out a lot but truly the standard here is REALLY poor. Id have refused if it was 20e for an hour. Honestly that bad. From history I actually like the rooms at Mainhattan - didnt get to see one this time and its goodbye from me. Wont be returning. I have ruled out what I call “the cancer lounge” at LR - main room is guaranteed to give you cancer whether you smoke or not - and now - Mainhattan is my 2nd “never again” club. Dreadful. I’d rather wank myself off for free.

[PayForIt]

I have another upcoming trip to Frankfurt. Friday night will be spent in Oase. I am trying to decide where to go on the Saturday. Other obligations mean I cannot arrive until around 9 pm. I don't want to go all the way to Darmstadt at that time for Sharks, so am thinking of either Mainhattan or Palace. Reports on Palace forum suggest grumpy girls, all CBJ. Not inspiring. Whilst the recent ethnicity debate on this forum is interesting, can any regular tell me what the current LU is like? If its that poor I can see me heading all the way back up to Oase! I'the like to try Mainhattan or Palace for something different but thought I'the ask here given the very negative Palace reviews. Observations appreciated.

[Takedown]

http://m.scmp.com/news/china/society...ou-qualify-new

There are one or two other examples like this also. Google is your friend.

You brought it up. Figured it was up to you to cite it when the initial description was vague at best.

[Takedown]

First, this is the most action the Mainhattan thread has gotten in years, albeit not related, LOL.

Agree with you on so many points. Problem is most of the world does not see it that way. Saying I am American as an Asian American never satisfies a European's inquiry. Yet, people nominally say that America is full of immigrants but do not give my caucasian counterparts the same push back when answering the country of origin question.

At the same time, I've spoken with Turkish Germans and asked them where they are from. They, answer, “I'm Turkish. " But when I ask them where they were born, they will reply, "Germany. " Are you a German citizen? "Yes. ". It’s absurd to live and be a citizen of a nation and not claim that nation. Sometimes minorities just shoot themselves in the foot and perpetuate the perception of outsider/Auslander


As far as Romanian girls, some examples to illustrate your point of girls embracing the culture of their surroundings:

Daniella / Denisa at Oase. She claims Spain but is Romanian ancestry. She behaves like a Spanish girl, speaks Spanish fluently, and does not really interact with the other Romanian girls.

Kate at GT. She says she lives in Italy, and her behavior reflects this much. She even speaks english to the Romanian girls. Does she even speak Romanian?

Evita at Sharks grew up in Spain and although she is very good friends with the other Romanians, she is clearly different in her behavior and pop culture tastes.

I would say where you grow up and are most attuned to the norms is where you are from in a meaningful sense, not even born. I was born in the UK but grew up in the US, and I do feel culturally estranged in the UK and far less so in the US. Technically I was an immigrant to the US and UK born, however I do feel culturally American and not British. So I don't think one should construe a 500 or 1000 year limit after all all humans emerged out of the same place, the East African Rift Valley.

At the very least if you or your parents were born somewhere, you are not an immigrant.

About the Romanian girls I disagree with Pistons, I don't think most Romanian girls say they are from Italy or Spain because they grew up there or feel culturally Italian or Spanish, I think it is purely for marketing reasons.

1. You found something different here and not the usual Romanian, this is the less likely motive.

2. Whether justified or not, Romanians have a bad reputation for cheating, dishonesty and bad service, I personally think the bad service is an unfair bad rap and I have had great times with many, this is why they deny being Romanian so you will be more enticed to choose them..

[Pistons]

About the Romanian girls I disagree with Pistons, I don't think most Romanian girls say they are from Italy or Spain because they grew up there or feel culturally Italian or Spanish, I think it is purely for marketing reasons.

Of course, but sometimes the devils advocate does have some points to what he says. And you shouldn't say he is all wrong.

Many Romanians are interestingly very ethnocentric in the way they look at foreigners too. If an Arab says he is Swedish or french, she will keep asking you 'no, but where do you really come from?' So that is very counter intuitive to the arguments I made also. We all have prejudices based on looks. If you deny it, you lie. Only on the internet we don't make these prejudices.

[Takedown]

First of all I would like to answer this question the way I would, it is a bit ironic because I think Takedown and Pistons are saying the same thing. Takedown, with your question you are implying that people should not be considered immigrants if they are born and / or raised in a country and so on, I think Pistons agreed with that and said that these girls should be considered from that country from a normative point of view.

Probably my mistake in reading comprehension.

[Delta Indigo]

As an Asian American living in America, all ethnic Asians are treated the same regardless of ancestral country of origin, overall pretty good. I do not know of any privileges American born Chinese would have. Please specify if possible.

What is the required length of time from populations to not be regarded as an immigrant? If your ancestor was present during the time a country was found politically, should you be considered an immigrant? Many liberals here in America try to tell all caucasian Americans that they are immigrants. Seems like a socio-political talking point that would not resonate with anyone that the statement is directed towards. It doesn't even resonate with me and I am a true immigrant.

First of all I would like to answer this question the way I would, it is a bit ironic because I think Takedown and Pistons are saying the same thing. Takedown, with your question you are implying that people should not be considered immigrants if they are born and / or raised in a country and so on, I think Pistons agreed with that and said that these girls should be considered from that country from a normative point of view.

I would say where you grow up and are most attuned to the norms is where you are from in a meaningful sense, not even born. I was born in the UK but grew up in the US, and I do feel culturally estranged in the UK and far less so in the US. Technically I was an immigrant to the US and UK born, however I do feel culturally American and not British. So I don't think one should construe a 500 or 1000 year limit after all all humans emerged out of the same place, the East African Rift Valley.

At the very least if you or your parents were born somewhere, you are not an immigrant.

About the Romanian girls I disagree with Pistons, I don't think most Romanian girls say they are from Italy or Spain because they grew up there or feel culturally Italian or Spanish, I think it is purely for marketing reasons.

1. You found something different here and not the usual Romanian, this is the less likely motive.

2. Whether justified or not, Romanians have a bad reputation for cheating, dishonesty and bad service, I personally think the bad service is an unfair bad rap and I have had great times with many, this is why they deny being Romanian so you will be more enticed to choose them.

3. Although it is obviously untrue a lot of the time, they do this because they think you have to lie to get ahead (a very common East European attitude, the odds are stacked against you and lying is only fair) and they are arrogant enough to think you might buy it even though it is obviously not true.

I have however met one or two Romanian girls who really did grow up in Spain and can claim that title.

I can illustrate this dilemma in this way, I would consider Turkish Germans, German and Turkish Turkish for obvious reasons, when you are with a German Turkish girl you will most likely get the much coveted German experience and not a Turkish one.

However this is not an entirely black or white issue, if you want to find out why this German girls has such alluring exotic looks, then it is due to her Turkish ancestry most likely (caveat, people look very varied both in Germany and Turkey and there is far more than one single look in each, this is certainly true for Romania where people look very different from each other as well).

In Fkks, I do want to explain the differing looks, when I meet a Spanish girl, ie Sharks, then what is important is her Spanish cultural upbringing, I find Spanish girls, I have had only a few, to be great, they are perhaps like the Germans of Spain, ha ha.

[Pistons]

http://m.scmp.com/news/china/society...ou-qualify-new

There are one or two other examples like this also. Google is your friend.

[Pistons]

Takedown: no privilege in America, but if a Chinese American had returned to China, he / she'd get one or two privileges over say an African american or a Caucasian American.

[Takedown]

1. Well China is still giving special privileges to ethnic Chinese all around the world. If you had mentioned any other of my examples I would have agreed more. Just about a month ago I read something about the latest privilege, but can't find the link now. Too much spam on Facebook. And in South Africa ANC is about to implement even more nationalistic policies based on ethnic race somewhat in the same manner as Zimbabwe did before that country blew up in economic hardship. So these things do happen in several places in the world.


The world is a racist place even if naysayers live in illusions. And us refusing to acknowledged gypsies of being born in Italy or Spain is much the same as these other examples.

As an Asian American living in America, all ethnic Asians are treated the same regardless of ancestral country of origin, overall pretty good. I do not know of any privileges American born Chinese would have. Please specify if possible.

If I remember right the vast majority of North-Americans are immigrants to their own country if you only consider the last 500 years.

What is the required length of time from populations to not be regarded as an immigrant? If your ancestor was present during the time a country was found politically, should you be considered an immigrant? Many liberals here in America try to tell all caucasian Americans that they are immigrants. Seems like a socio-political talking point that would not resonate with anyone that the statement is directed towards. It doesn't even resonate with me and I am a true immigrant.

[Pistons]

That's a pretty ethnically nationalistic way of thinking at least regarding the Chinese American not being all that American considering that gypsies dont identify with the country of origin.

On the other end, Is there a time frame to not be an immigrant? Like the 50,000 years to Europe versus 10,000 years to North America?

1. Well China is still giving special privileges to ethnic Chinese all around the world. If you had mentioned any other of my examples I would have agreed more. Just about a month ago I read something about the latest privilege, but can't find the link now. Too much spam on Facebook. And in South Africa ANC is about to implement even more nationalistic policies based on ethnic race somewhat in the same manner as Zimbabwe did before that country blew up in economic hardship. So these things do happen in several places in the world.

2. The timeframe is only in our heads. White south africans are currently petitioning uk and France to be let back to europe after 200 years based on ethniticy.

The world is a racist place even if naysayers live in illusions. And us refusing to acknowledged gypsies of being born in Italy or Spain is much the same as these other examples.

[Optimist]

KK. Thanks for the reports here and under Oase and Dietzenbach.

Gypsies. Most of them are, if one encourages them to open up, very proud to be gypsy, in the same way that Romanians (non-gypsy) are fiercely proud, to say nothing of the ethnically Saxon and ethnically Hungarian Romanians.

Quite a few of the romanian gypsies can speak romanian roma.

They only cloak their backgrounds due to expectations of discrimination, which in the case of gypsies is well founded from experience in Romnia. And don't forget that in the days of German city states, Frankfurt required gypsies to wear yellow bands and to be registered in order to be allowed to work (a bit like getting a Huren Pass now)

And like the "Egyptian" Angelina said to me, it is good for business to try to stand out from the crowd. Telling an origin lie to customers was fine by her, as most customers lie to the girls.

[Rogue Nation]

On the other end, Is there a time frame to not be an immigrant? Like the 50,000 years to Europe versus 10,000 years to North America?

If I remember right the vast majority of North-Americans are immigrants to their own country if you only consider the last 500 years.

[Takedown]

Well, if they indeed are gypsy Romanians, chances are that they were in fact born elsewhere in Europe. Either Italy or Spain. Both these countries has fairly large Romanian diasporas. So they are much Italian or Spanish as a Chinese American, or a Turkish German, or a magreb French, or a polish Brit. Many people would say this counts. In USA most people are immigrants. Even the people running around with lassos and spears once crossed the bearing strait.

That's a pretty ethnically nationalistic way of thinking at least regarding the Chinese American not being all that American considering that gypsies don’t identify with the country of origin.

On the other end, Is there a time frame to not be an immigrant? Like the 50,000 years to Europe versus 10,000 years to North America?