German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Sirioja]

The thing is at brothels, they offer you what you wrote with many women who do not age as we change women as we choose depend on feeling of the day, brothel begin to provide you quantity of quality who do not age.

When brothel begin to offer what I just wrote with such an each access like FKK system. It was life changer for me. You can confirm what you want before you buy her too. I mean how amazing is that and you can have multiple of women who is at stunner level on display.

For me 2009 till 2015 ish was best year main FKK bar filled with stunners of varieties, but still now, I manage to find few stunner each time I go to FKK trip, so I cannot complain for my lust..

Girls age faster in prostitution, being fucked whole days, than women in real life who stay more fresh, mainly in mind.

I was faithful to my real girlfriends, now as the worst guy according to others, I'm faithful to some escorts or FKK girls, meeting them weekly for months or years like busy Kate, going only with them, most often only 1 girl in 1 club, then no jealousy from her, no: You behave the same with others? I behave the same than in real life, and busiest prettiest come to repeat with me every week, when I don't go for a while, they ask when I will come? They don't make me wait because they know I don't like and they don't want I go with other girls.

I had great girls who were about 30 yo, some over like part timer Lena. Lat at PSR who made me drive a lot on August 2013, she would be more than 40 now and I'm pretty sure I would desire her for her charm and natural beauty.

In real life or in FKK land, I need beauty, I prefer to stay alone if I don't find a attractive girl, I don't need to have sex with a GND. Sometimes I don't find even at Globe or big Sharks, difficult for me to find pretty girls, then easy to make them will to please me, because I know a bit about women, I learned when I loved my girlfriends.

I'm not afraid about loneliness, I make my sports on my own and they are more important than brothels. Who could I take with me to kill oneself climbing Zoncolan or Mortirolo? But it s just my passion to try to perform a better climbing time. If not good, I go again as soon I recover. For free ride, security staff didn't want to let me go in la Grave, they said it s too dangerous to go alone without ARVA, I explained it s too dangerous to take somebody with me, so I prefer to go alone, I decided to go, I opened one run above Chancel lake, 2 other skiers followed when they saw me going, but when I started I didn't see and know what would happen, so better to be alone because we never know what may happen, if You lose grip and fall in rocks, ARVA won't help you, but in this passion, we know risks about rocks, avalanches, crevices, I'm very careful, I never had problems on free ride because I know better not to do a mistake when I alone, my accidents were when skiing bumps, losing control, and flying over, but we are ready for our personal passion, it s even impossible to resist to this drug. Many girls take cocaine, I need adrenaline. But single for risks.

Sports help in bed with girls. For those who try to control, when you exhaust them, then they lose control.

[MythoVirus]

One thing I have to add to this conversation is that I work in healthcare and a lot of the woman hater, "hardcore monger for life" guys would probably change their tunes if they see what goes on in hospitals everyday. One of the saddest things to see in the world is an old man dying alone with no one at his bedside. Something to take heed.

I understand your prospective as I also work in healthcare, seeing people die everyday is very depressing, however that makes me also wants to be "hardcore monger" as I keep reminded how fragile and mortal we are on a daily basis, and life is so short. This makes me want to "f" as much girls as I can, different girls for sure, those few minutes inside the room, the dopamine inducing sexual tension during the act can for at least few minutes ease my mind and feel I'm living, and life is beautiful.

I think the best way to live is to have a partner for life, I don't argue against that, but having a single partner for life is to me against all rationality and a waste of life. The magic is finding a partner to live with and love forever while still being able to practice mongering, this is what I call a life.

So putting it in mathematics.

Mongering + zero partner= depressing.

Zero mongering + one partner only for life= Waste of life.

Moderate mongering + ture partner= a life worth living.

[Member #4581]

One thing I have to add to this conversation is that I work in healthcare and a lot of the woman hater, "hardcore monger for life" guys would probably change their tunes if they see what goes on in hospitals everyday. One of the saddest things to see in the world is an old man dying alone with no one at his bedside. Something to take heed.

Agree with what you say in general, as you would want someone to feel sad when you go.

But unrelated to your main point I don't understand this concept of women hating hardcore monger. On one hand, they hate women, but they want to be with women, have sex with them, kiss them etc? Can't even understand how that works. Even in a FKK, when a girl is rude to me or otherwise not nice, I am so turned off, I can't have sex with that girl anymore even if she is quite pretty. How does one hate women and yet kiss them or want to be with them?

To the point Pistons is making many men also got their millions from inheritance. Especially in developing countries where upward mobility is not yet strong, many rich people got their wealth mostly from inheritance.

[Pistons]

It would be better if you could find something with age demographics. Both Jnpr30 and I are making the point that women are closing the gap.

I believe I've read that most millionaires (70%) are baby boomers. Born between 1946 and 1964. I propose we should leave the baby-boomers out, because I don't think there are many of us who are looking for a 54 year old wife. I'd imagine that their target range would be Gen-X, Gen-Y, where according to a study 44% of millionaires are female.

True, they are indeed closing the gap (the last article I linked pointed that out too). But more so in america and certain western European countries too I suspect than in the world as a whole.

[McAdonis]

About 15 percent of American millionaires are self-made women, BMO said, while the rest got their fortune from marriage or inheritance.

So if both sources are correct, then 27.5% of all american millionaires are women whom have married into wealth.

It would be better if you could find something with age demographics. Both Jnpr30 and I are making the point that women are closing the gap.

I believe I've read that most millionaires (70%) are baby boomers. Born between 1946 and 1964. I propose we should leave the baby-boomers out, because I don't think there are many of us who are looking for a 54 year old wife. I'd imagine that their target range would be Gen-X, Gen-Y, where according to a study 44% of millionaires are female.

[Takedown]

One thing I have to add to this conversation is that I work in healthcare and a lot of the woman hater, "hardcore monger for life" guys would probably change their tunes if they see what goes on in hospitals everyday. One of the saddest things to see in the world is an old man dying alone with no one at his bedside. Something to take heed.

[Mr Ho]

If you have a beautiful girlfriend who loves you, if you are able to take care of her, then she will ask you to take her. Women in love ask for sex, they don't have headache as long they love you, then no need to go to brothel, better to have real sex at home, with true feelings. I didn't know most beautiful Russian escorts and FKK land few years ago. Pleaure to have you woman who will to please you.

The thing is at brothels, they offer you what you wrote with many women who do not age as we change women as we choose depend on feeling of the day, brothel begin to provide you quantity of quality who do not age.

When brothel begin to offer what I just wrote with such an each access like FKK system. It was life changer for me. You can confirm what you want before you buy her too. I mean how amazing is that and you can have multiple of women who is at stunner level on display.

For me 2009 till 2015 ish was best year main FKK bar filled with stunners of varieties, but still now, I manage to find few stunner each time I go to FKK trip, so I cannot complain for my lust.

As for loved filled sex, I love it only at the beginning of relationship, let say first few months, then after I want to get out, this is same for FKK, when I find stunner, it is such an amazing feeling for first few sessions, then after while. I seek for new young stunners.

I like beautiful girls till around age 25 max, so FKK or related top quality set up with young quality girls I can change every few years serves me the best for what I want in my life in the area of sex life.

[Member #4581]

Gen-X and Gen-why is anybody born between 1965 and 1994. Within this age bracket in USA, 44% of the millionaires are female.

https://www.fidelity.com/about-fidel...onaires-differ

The mens rights activists amongst us will probably assume these women amassed their wealth via divorce settlement or inheritance. There are no figures released that provide this type of insight. Unless all these female millionaires are married to mega-millionaires and billionaires, we have to assume that some lucky men will be smiling if and when they ever get their divorce settlement.

Men's rights activists?! That's a good one, LOL.

I think the Anglo Saxon, English speaking nations are probably most advanced on this axis. And I would go even further than your link. It takes a long time to accumulate a million bucks, so the women who are at that level today started a while ago. It is a lagging indicator in other words. With the exception of engineering and physical sciences, and perhaps finance and a few other fields, women are now leading in overall university enrollmemts. Their upward movement in wealth charts will be felt a decade or two out. See below, they now lead in medicine and law, 2 well paying professions in the US.

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/08/why-men-are-the-new-college-minority/536103/

https://news.aamc.org/press-releases/article/applicant-enrollment-2017/

https://abovethelaw.com/2018/03/there-are-now-more-women-in-law-school-than-ever-before/





Japan is definitely pretty behind. Their PM even desperately to push up female participation but w / very little success. I have personally never met a woman in the upper ranks of Japanese corporates, almost all of them are men. In fact, China is much better on this, in my non scientific personal survey.

When members here come from various countries, they naturally form views based own their experiences and biases. If you never see woman advancing in your work place or society, perhaps you assume they are retrograde everywhere.

I sas a photo of a Saudi Arabian conference this week. It was an auditorium 100% full of men, not a single woman was in the hall. The topic was womens rights! It is possible that when guys come here from S Arabia, or some such place where women are way way behind, they may have hard time believing any woman any where in the world can make some money on her own.

[Pistons]

According to Thomas J. Stanley's book, "The Millionaire Next Door: The Surprising Secrets of America's Wealthy," only 20% of millionaires inherited their riches. The other 80% are what you'd call nouveau riche: first generation millionaires who earned their cash on their own. Many millionaires simply worked, saved and lived within their means to generate their wealth. Think accountants and managers: regular people going to work every day. Most millionaires didn't get their riches overnight when a rich relative died. They worked for the money.

Read more: 7 Millionaire Myths https://www.investopedia.com/financi...ire-myths.aspx#ixzz5 Dj6 VJPqx.

So some math: take away the top 10% of each sex bracket, and you have 34 female millionaires per 46 male millionaires. Or 42.5% female newly rich to 57.5% male newly rich. Minus the married.

But according to this article, you see marriges being counted for:

https://www.cnbc.com/id/100865295

About 15 percent of American millionaires are self-made women, BMO said, while the rest got their fortune from marriage or inheritance.

So if both sources are correct, then 27.5% of all american millionaires are women whom have married into wealth.

[Sirioja]

Just curious, my theory anyways, for those of you that prefer to be single and enjoy this hobby have you ever been in love? Have you ever love someone so much that you want to be better for her? I can assume those that are / were married were at this stage at one point and would prefer a companion (unless they had a bad divorce).

Optimist, you are my role model. I don't think there are such a normal girl, young, who would allow her man to visit a brothel, spend time and money with another girls, and feel nothing about it. The odd of finding this girl is almost zero. But the chance of finding this girl is higher, in FKK, LOL. I even joked with someone very close to me and she said she would allow her BF or husband to visit the club, maybe once a year on his BD.

If you have a beautiful girlfriend who loves you, if you are able to take care of her, then she will ask you to take her. Women in love ask for sex, they don't have headache as long they love you, then no need to go to brothel, better to have real sex at home, with true feelings. I didn't know most beautiful Russian escorts and FKK land few years ago. Pleaure to have you woman who will to please you.

[McAdonis]

But in western societies, dual income households have become the norm so the expenses are becoming more and more equally shared. I'm in the 30-40 age range and plenty of women in my generation are earning 6 figure incomes.

Gen-X and Gen-why is anybody born between 1965 and 1994. Within this age bracket in USA, 44% of the millionaires are female.

https://www.fidelity.com/about-fidel...onaires-differ

The mens rights activists amongst us will probably assume these women amassed their wealth via divorce settlement or inheritance. There are no figures released that provide this type of insight. Unless all these female millionaires are married to mega-millionaires and billionaires, we have to assume that some lucky men will be smiling if and when they ever get their divorce settlement.

[Chongmal]

Amongst hardcore monger population, I'the agree with your assessment. Amongst more casual monger population, companionship is of minimal importance. The sheer volume of 10-15 minute commercial transactions speaks to that (at Laufhaus and Turksh FKK clubs). I suspect these casual mongers are wired to seek companionship as well, but from their wives and GFs, not from WGs.

Like you say it is a different form of love. More characterized by an appreciation for a sponsor than society's ideal of romantic love. Success rate of these "mail-order-bride" relationships seem to be high only when the women is 40+ with kids from a previous relationship.

I remember reading a sociology or psychology book many years back that described the three phases for women's choices of men. If I recall right, it was something like procreation (picking a more dominate male to ensure stronger children), security (including physical and financial) and companionship. As explained, these phases typically occurred in this order. Sometimes a single man provided all three phases but often the woman changed men as she progressed through the phases.

[Takedown]

Amongst hardcore monger population, I'the agree with your assessment. Amongst more casual monger population, companionship is of minimal importance. The sheer volume of 10-15 minute commercial transactions speaks to that (at Laufhaus and Turksh FKK clubs). I suspect these casual mongers are wired to seek companionship as well, but from their wives and GFs, not from WGs.

Like you say it is a different form of love. More characterized by an appreciation for a sponsor than society's ideal of romantic love. Success rate of these "mail-order-bride" relationships seem to be high only when the women is 40+ with kids from a previous relationship.

Regarding the discussion, I meant it as companionship in life in general, not just from a monger to WG interaction. The discussion originated from Ho's assertion that "everyone here agrees" that a life as a hardcore monger is better than growing old with a single woman. Others here seek a molecular theory to discount the need for companionship, but that is just a matter of perspective. As in, do you choose to look at life from the human perspective, top-down, or from a molecular perspective, bottom up. I for one choose to believe that just because there is molecular explanation for something such as feelings of love and intimacy, it does not make it any less important. In fact thinking anything bottom up tends to make one a social weirdo.

True regarding sponsor love. But if I'm 80 and not married, sponsor love is better than dying alone with only hookers to buy hourly "love."

[ExpatLover]

Mongering is mongering and companionship is companionship. Perhaps some people don't want companionship; that is a personal decision but it would be wise to make sure that one is honest with himself before making that decision. I don't discount that some people can forgoe companionship in favor of a life of satisfying sex with professional stunner women but those people are in an extreme minority. The rest of us are wired to seek companionship. So if you are in the minority of people who can truly and I mean truly commit to a promongering but companionless life then I salute your individual composition. For most people who deep down desire companionship, I think it would be a miserable and pathetic existence to only pay for sex week (end) in and week (end) out.

I may not be as sexually interested in the same woman 10 years from now but I do want children and for my children to have a mother.

All of this is pretty simple common knowledge right? For most of us, it would be a good idea to not tell ourselves lies about what we desire from women, life, and this hobby.

All of this being said, companionship can be bought and that person can develop real emotions over time. Women in my family have who married much older men for security did eventually develop a version of love for their geriatric provider.

P6 in Germany is just so or too easy but it is just sex nothing more which is quite boring now for me like for many other mongers, after being with 500 + girls it is just always the same mechanical sex. It was a very nice time of my life but definitively I am moving to something far better now with a stable relationship.

[McAdonis]

I don't discount that some people can forgoe companionship in favor of a life of satisfying sex with professional stunner women but those people are in an extreme minority. The rest of us are wired to seek companionship.

Amongst hardcore monger population, I'the agree with your assessment. Amongst more casual monger population, companionship is of minimal importance. The sheer volume of 10-15 minute commercial transactions speaks to that (at Laufhaus and Turksh FKK clubs). I suspect these casual mongers are wired to seek companionship as well, but from their wives and GFs, not from WGs.

All of this being said, companionship can be bought and that person can develop real emotions over time. Women in my family have who married much older men for security did eventually develop a version of love for their geriatric provider.

Like you say it is a different form of love. More characterized by an appreciation for a sponsor than society's ideal of romantic love. Success rate of these "mail-order-bride" relationships seem to be high only when the women is 40+ with kids from a previous relationship.