Puerto Vallarta

[Cilantro]

I'm new here but have been visiting PV 2 x a year for the last 5 years or so. I read through the last 20 pages or so and learned a lot, but I still have a couple of questions.

Hopefully someone can help this newbie out.

I'm not really a bar type of guy so I plan to learn as I go. So far, I've been to Aqua, Harem, and Jagger in the past, but haven't done much more than a basic private dance in a back room. Now I'm interested in moving up to FS.

So first, a little history. My questions are at the bottom if anyone wants the short version.

On one trip to PV, I went to Aqua. It was really disappointing and way over priced. They only had two girls working (one 5 and one 6), and neither was up on stage. After I entered, the doorman took me to a booth. The two girls came and sat down next to me, explained how clubs work in Mexico and gave me a few options. I picked between the two girls and went upstairs to a room. I went with a 30 minute private dance, which was somewhat disappointing as I it really felt like the girl didn't want to be doing this type of job. It really didn't help either of us that the AC was out and it was around 80+ in the room!

On a 2nd trip to PV, I went to Harem. It was pretty good overall in quality, and I had a great time, but upon leaving I was ripped off. They had about 5 or 6 girls all sitting in the back. One (probably a 6) went up on stage and danced for a song. After her song, she came and sat next to me to begin negotiating. I wasn't too interested, and told her a few times, "no gracias". My Spanish is not good at all, and she didn't speak any English. While we were (trying to) talk, another girl went up on stage. She was more like a 8, so I focused on her while the 1st girl was still trying to negotiate with me. I got up and threw a few 20 (peso) on the stage, and when the song finished, the 2nd girl came and sat down next to me. At that point, the 1st girl left. I negotiated a price of 2000 peso with the manager to buy "a bottle of champagne" which included the girl and a back room for an hour -- and this was just for a private dance- which was pretty good. I gave the girl a 200 peso tip as she was worth it (got a little extra HJ and BJ- or more like a little soft licking). Upon leaving the manager told me the total was 4000 peso. I told him he said 2000 peso originally, but he replied, no, its 4000. I obviously didn't want to try and argue with someone who looked more like a bouncer -- especially in Mexico, so I payed the 4000. He then asked me for a tip as well, so I gave him an extra 20 peso. He wasn't too happy about that and told me to get out so I left. Needless to say, this was also very disappointing and I won't return.

On my last trip to PV, I had read about Tampico online (from another site) and asked a cabbie to take me there. He asked me if I had ever been there before and I said no. He told me it wasn't a safe place for a visitor because it has a lot of 'cartel' type people there, but he would still take me there if I really wanted to go. I asked him what he suggested and he said there was a small place in old town, in the shopping areas (sorry, I forget the name) so we drove there. I went in and took a quick look, but it looked more like a large dining hall, but dark and with the normal colored / strobe lights. I had a strange feeling about it and decided to pass. I had told the cabbie to wait for me while I looked inside and he was still there, so I said let's find another place.

I also remember someone mentioning Andromeda to me earlier, so we went there next. Again, I got out of the cab to take a look. Immediately, two large guys started walking up to me. One was on a radio, and said something about "tourist just pulled up". Again, my Spanish is not good. That seemed a little strange to me as well, so I just got back in the cab. I could hear both of the guys laughing loudly as we left. The cabbie said he was probably letting someone inside know a tourist was coming in so they could 'prepare' -- meaning change price lists probably. This was the cabbie's response when I asked him what the guy on the radio was saying and why the two guys were approaching me, so I don't know if it accurate.

We finally ended up at Jagger. I took a quick look inside and thought this is more what I am looking for, so I let the cabbie go. There were about 4 or 5 girls here, also just sitting up near the entrance. No one was on stage. The doorman took me to a booth and asked me what I wanted. I got a crown & coke for 50 peso, which seemed reasonable to me, as I know they usually way overcharge for drinks. I then asked if anyone was going up on stage anytime soon, and he said he would go check. After he left, one of the girls (a really skinny 5) came and sat down next to me. She put her hand on my thigh and asked me what I was looking for -- she seemed to speak a little English, which was good. She started sliding her hand up all the way to the jewels. I told her I was just here to watch some dances and have a few drinks. After about 5 minutes of talking to her, the manager came over and asked me if anything was wrong. I assumed he was asking since I was still in the booth, and not in the back with the girl. I told him I wanted to see someone dance up on the stage and he left. A minute or so later, a girl went up on stage. She seemed like a 7 or so-a few extra pounds, but really nice body. She eventually took off her top but that was about it. The 1st girl had already left by that time, and another girl (another really skinny 5) had come over. Again, I told her I wasn't interested. The manager came by again to see what was wrong. I told him to send the girl from the stage over and he did. Once she arrived, she went from a 7 to an 8 as I could see her better since she was right next to me. We started talking and I mentioned the two previous girls. She laughed and said most gringos like the really skinny girls, which is why the manager sent them over. To me, they seemed like 90 pound, somewhat starving or malnourished girls with very small tits, which is not my thing. I talked to her a little more and negotiated a 30 min private dance for $1000 peso. Again, it was $1000 peso for the bottle of cheap champagne, which comes with the girl.

We went upstairs to a more private area, but it was not a separate room. More like a balcony where you could still see the stage downstairs. She took off her top and immediately got on my lap and started grinding. She started kissing and licking my neck while I was groping and sucking on her tits. She let me do quite a bit for "just a dance" which was really nice- but she wouldn't take off her bottom. I was able to slide my hands inside her panties though, including a little fingering and she didn't seem to mind. She was actually quite wet which made the experience that much better. After the 30 min was up, the manager came over and asked if I wanted anything else. It was funny, cause he kind of joked and said I looked like I needed a BJ. I told him I was fine and ready to leave, and surprisingly he gave me a small piece of paper that said $1000 peso. I was expecting to be ripped off again, but wasn't. I gave him 1100 peso and gave the girl another 200 peso and left. Needless to say, I'll probably go back to Jagger on my next trip.

In the past, I have been close to trying an escort, but after reading the info here, it sounds like this would not work out like I would hope it would. Not to mention I usually stay at AI places, and I always just assumed they would let them in if I were a registered hotel guest.

So.

First question, in a MP like Coni Spa, if you negotiate price down to 2000 peso or so (from the initial 2500 for FS) do you think the service would go down too? I plan to tip well for a job well done, but they wouldn't know that until afterwards.

And as for a good club, I was told by a cabbie that Tampico is a little dangerous as there are usually a lot of 'cartel' hanging around. I know certain cabbie's have deals with certain clubs, etc. , but can anyone confirm or deny the safety of the area around Tampico?

Any other advice for this newbie? I've since learned that I have been way overpaying for what I am getting, but any other tips?

Thanks!

[PVMonger]

So I repeated and this time got more some info. The place is called Bliss Massage. The address is Insurgentes #236 in the Romantic Zone. It's across the street from the Farmacia Guadalaja and the OXXO. If you walk up the street past coni spa (away from the beach) and hang a left at the corner and walk down 2 blocks you'll be there. The girl I sessioned with is named Sofia. She's hot. I'd say a solid 9, so I didn't try any of the other girls there, but a couple others looked nice as well. I think there were 4 total. Anyhow they're still doing the discount thing too. 10% off massage with happy ending. I might try the 4-handed massage. Have never done that before, but maybe it's time!

Stopped by Bliss on Saturday to get the lay of the land so to speak.

Three therapists on duty. "Sofia" (who's not a 9 in my book, but.) does FS. The best looking one (IMHO). "Lola", gives therapeutic and he massages only. The third, "Vero" gives therapeutic massages only.

1-hour full-body deep therapy massage is 350 pesos. Massage with happy ending is 850 pesos. Topless massage with happy ending is 1200 pesos. Or complete massage with full sex is 2500 pesos.

Hope this helps.

[Tony1010]

Good report. Thanks!

[BigNocker]

Tried some other things other than massage places. Tried on-line Milerotico, Back Page and Craigs List. Most of the girls change the rate in the ad when contacted or are connected with an agency.

They would not come to my hotel and wanted to go to a motel of their choice. I did not feel comfortable with that. Also tried one of the strip clubs. Jagger in the hotel zone. 100 pesos to get in and 100 pesos for 5 small beers. Never saw the other four after the first one. Staff brought over a 9. She was about 5'8" or so but really good looking and nice body. Went for a lap dance in the back room at 190 pesos and no change back from 200. Had to go for FS after about 5 minutes. Of her lap dance, pretty intense. 350 for room for the house and 2000 for the 1/2 hour session. They wanted 3000 for an hour. I figured one and done so I said no. Room had a mattress on the floor, night stand and light. That was it. Got to play around with her for about 15 minutes. Till she talked me in to letting her go for a ride. Was in the room for about 20 minutes. She was off as soon as I came. Not much else hanging out in club, so I left. Dancers were fully clothed. Will not go back. That is it for my suggestions. Please post any other new places. Will make note next time I return to PV.

[OssieMan]

I took one of my favorite PV girls to Motel Pedregal to bang. 330 pesos (about $19 US) you get a great room with A / see, nice shower, TV, king bed. Super clean. And for 30 pesos, they will even deliver a condom to the room. Room is for 8 hours. To my surprise, when I exited the rear of the Motel, I was in the parking lot of three clubs. Tapanko, La 10 and Sahara all next to each other. Huge parking lot, you would not know it from the street. I cannot comment on any of the clubs, as I was at Pedregal around noon, but I did go back at 5 am after dropping some people at the airport. The lot was packed, and lots of taxis waiting. Several of the girls were outside and there were some very decent lookers. So it looks like these clubs go on thru the night.

To find these places, you will take Calle Politecnico Nacional. This is the street that is between the Oxxo convenience store and the old bull fighting ring just north of the marina Walmart and Liverpool mall. If you are heading north toward the airport, turn right. If heading toward PV Centro, turn left. Follow this street until you see Motel Pedregal on your right. Immediately past Pedregal turn right between Pedregal and the Pemex gas station. The clubs sit behind the Motel.

I may have time tonight to check. If so, I will report what I find.

I concur with Subatoo in the location and amenities of the Predregal motel. Coming from the airport you turn left on calle P. And. Then a less than a quarter of the mile the motel is to the right. Very excluded in closed, there is a booth on the left of the gate, we were greeted by the owner of the motel an old light-skin man. My chica chatted with him for a little bit, it seem they know each other" . He handle the room key and we went strait to the room on the corner. I was surprised by the privacy and the cleanliness of the motel, when we entered to the left was the bathroom with a shower, nice an clean towels. On the right was a window next to a long mirror, the TV then the king side bed very spacious room.

On my way out, I don't recall seeing any night club, I wish I could have, I would of visit it, since it was closed where I was staying.

[BigNocker]

I will continue GodDenr experience at The Best Massage Spa on Morelos 877. I had seen a posting on PV back page. This place runs ads a lot. One was different and lists-20 year old Nahomy fun. Pics on these ads are not accurate. Shows 9-10's. Might get an 8 if lucky. I showed up on time with my prearranged appt. With Nahomy. She was a no show. One of the girls claimed she was shopping and would be there in 20 minutes. Did not show and was ready to go so I picked the slim girl with a off smile as previously noted. Her name is Masajista. She is on their website also. Medium looks. Went for the CBJ. The girls tell you up front no touching unless full service. Had a great massage as these girls are really therapists with action on the side. Flipped over to see fantastic body. Great ass and natural tits that were perfect. Up the deal to full. She was so tight I could hardly get in. But after a couple minutes. Was good. Nice experience for 2500 pesos.

Went back again about two weeks later. 3 girls in front 6-to maybe 7. 50. All had an extra 20 lbs plus on them. I took the best looking who was Blanca. Good choice. I had knocked one off that morning with the wife so took 25 MG of the blue pill. Great massage and opted for full service since I was not getting out again for awhile. Thru her up on the table and to my surprise pounded her for 7 or 8 minutes to the point I was working up a sweat. Towards the end she was covering her mouth with her hand to keep her noise down. Was not sure if good acting or what. Starting getting a little soft due to overheating and she got me rock hard again with a little lube and her hands. Put her on the couch and jumped on top for about 3 minutes. Or so. She was a GFE. Tongue down the throat and really fun. Blew the load and she told me to stay put. She wrapped her arms and legs around me and grinded on me for about a minute till she came. I got up took a shower and she was still in the room. Collected my stuff and she grabbed me and kissed me. I responded with a peck on the lips and she said no and pulled me close and kissed me GFE for about 15 or 20 seconds and then said gracias for the session. I left feeling pretty good about the session and will go back. That does it for Massage Spa places. Will share a few other tips on next post. Hopefully you guys can benefit from my experiments.

[GodDenR]

First of all, Thanks BigNocker for your recent detailed posts! I was happy to see you tried Monica at Lotus, as I was hesitating. Maybe I should look for her next time.

Speaking of next times, I'm in PV for another week and did some experimenting.

I walked north of the Malecon as well, many times actually because of the bars and restaurants I've been to, and saw the offering at Harmony, in front of Parque Hidalgo. Most girls at the door are 6 to 7.5, with the rare 8 or 9. Then there's one place further up Mexico avenue, and it's in that same range of beauty. They are all Coni Spa spin-offs.

I went to a place called The best massage Spa on calle Morelos, by 31 de octubre, just north of the Malecon. The girls were dressed in typical all black tight clothing. Great facilities, comfortable setting. One of them was really tiny and small, but her smile was off. There was a good 7, slightly chubby and tall. Then a 7. 5 that seemed to be the boss, and had a nice body and an inviting face and attitude. Went with that one. Menu was discussed. 400 for regular massage, then it jumps to 1500 HJ, 2000 CBJ and 2500 complete. Went with the CBJ and first 30 minutes was professional mostly, with the occasional hand on the sack. Then she really focused on it before the flip, also played skillfully around the ass, and it naturally continued after the flip. She was unrushed, good rhythm, and she really cared about me enjoying my time. Once we were done she wiped me clean, and after I got dressed she showed me around the facilities. I settled at the cashier and the 2 other girls were there, all smiles of course. Left happy and relaxed.

Of course I didn't grab the names.

[BigNocker]

Have tried the Lotus located on the same block as the Rio hotel downtown. Nice place with quiet rooms and good shower. Could be part of the Coni group as prices are 1500 for sexy nude, 2000 for CBJ and 2500 or full service. They do not tell you they have a full menu unless you ask. Once on the table and a few teases then an offering might be made. Went several times and most of the girls are only 6-7. Noted post previously about Monica at the spa. Yes about a 6-7, a few pounds over weight. Wanted a session and stopped by and she was there with two other girls. She was the best looking and showing the most cleavage. Went back and I told her I wanted a sexy massage. She said OK at 1500 pesos. Good massage for about 40 minutes. Rolled over and she then asked how many times I had been there. I told her twice. She started a pretty good tease and let me play around with her for a few minutes. During this time some noise outside the door. Regular customers coming in for regular service nails, hot stones etc. And not full service. She hushed me to be a little quieter. Continued to tease and let me play and asked if I wanted full service once the activity died down outside door. I could hear a couple of older women talking. I asked how much and she said 2500. I said no. Continued with the action I was having for another 3 or 4 minutes. And reached down between her legs and she was soaked. She pretty much begged me for full service which I declined. Once the voices went away from outside she asked again and said only 2000 pesos. So I said OK and through her up on the spa table for about 5 minutes. Pretty good time in all. Next day wanted to try the Spa's close to Basilo Badillo and hyw 200 in old town. Noted the comments previously about Bliss Spa. Stopped by and said not other services than straight massage. Maybe hit or miss with girls. Continued to Where Spirit hands downstairs and Serenity Spa upstairs. A couple of 7's out front and I asked the younger better looking one to show me around. She took me upstairs and showed me the shower and the rooms and asked what kind of massage I wanted. I told her sexy nude and asked if I could touch and she said yes. Took a shower and got on the table. She stripped down and had a great body. Moved up a little in ratings with that body and early 20's. I think she appreciated my taking a shower as she played a lot with my ass and really gave me a good massage but with a lot of tease and rubbing me from behind. Thought I would be blowing the load before I turned over. After about 30 minutes. I turned over and she continued the tease. She asked me if I wanted to to upgrade and have sex for 2500 pesos. I declined as I knew I would not last 30 seconds once I got on her. She said OK and let me play some with her while playing with the junk. I finally just relaxed and let her finished me. To my surprise she gave me a prostate massage and she finished my off with her other hand while I had my fingers in her. Blew all over the place and she just laughed and smiled. Very nice experience and left costing me 1500 and I gave her a 200 pesos tip. Did not get her name but will look for her next time.

[BigNocker]

Stopped in a couple of places North of the Malecon. One right across from Portonova Hotel. Just has a sign that says massage. I have seen girls from the lotus at this place. Hit or miss for lookers. Stopped in and asked for a sexy massage from a girl that was maybe a 6.5 with an extra 20 lbs on her. Got into the room and the noise from the other room was very loud and went on for about 15 minutes. Later I saw her and she was at least an 8 with a good looking body. The girl I was with just giggled a couple of times. I would give her a 9 for effort as it was a pretty good tease and massage. Took a shower and got out of there for 1500 pesos. Next day went down the street on the ocean side of the main drag near the Oxxo that is about two blocks up from the Malecon right across from a plaza. Small sign that you would miss walking fast. Spa is tucked back in an alley type spot. Good place with shower and good AC. A couple of girls out front and I took the smallest of the two who was still about 20 lbs overweight. (my luck no skinny ones again) Sexy massage that was pretty good. I rolled over and she had a great set of tits. She was begging me for full service, so why not. Fair experience, but would not do her again. Same prices as the other place. 1500 for nude massage, 2000 for CBJ and 2500 for full service. Will continue with some other recommendations tomorrow.

[BigNocker]

Reviewed some of the previous posts and wanted to comment. Stayed for an extended period of time from Jan. To March and visited several massage places. Will add info on each one separately. Went to Vallarta Massage in marina per a previous posting. Walked in and about 4 girls hanging out. Most 7 to 9. One with longer hair got up and asked if I wanted a massage. She took me back to a room with a glass shower, hot tub, a couple of couches and a massage table. Showed menu and I took the CBJ for 1900 pesos. She asked if she was ok or did I want another girl. She was a solid 8 with her clothes on. I said she was fine. After a good 30 min. Massage and I got to see her naked she moved up to. 9.5. I knew then I need the full service. She said ok for an extra 800 and I said fine. Great time and then finished up taking a shower with me. Fantastic girl and great time. I will go back the next time in town.

[Monger690]

Thanks a lot, PVM. You were exactly right with the info you posted. I'm having a lot of fun here. Have been to a few of the spots guys have written about. I also went to a new place that just opened. Bliss Massage. They posted a grand opening promotion on craigslist for 10% off, so I thought I'd take a look. Got a very good massage and happy ending there from a real looker. It was 850 minus 10%. I'll be back and will get the address, but it's in the Romantic Zone around the corner from Coni Spa by the Pharmacy Guadalupe or something like that.

So I repeated and this time got more some info. The place is called Bliss Massage. The address is Insurgentes #236 in the Romantic Zone. It's across the street from the Farmacia Guadalaja and the OXXO. If you walk up the street past coni spa (away from the beach) and hang a left at the corner and walk down 2 blocks you'll be there. The girl I sessioned with is named Sofia. She's hot. I'd say a solid 9, so I didn't try any of the other girls there, but a couple others looked nice as well. I think there were 4 total. Anyhow they're still doing the discount thing too. 10% off massage with happy ending. I might try the 4-handed massage. Have never done that before, but maybe it's time!

[Monger690]

Not a holiday, per se. You'll be here during the weeks of Semanta Santa (Holy Week) and Semana Pascua (Easter Week). Lots of Nationals from inland are here and mongering is still strong (except, probably, on Easter Sunday. LOL). Beaches will be very crowded and there are always problems during this time of year with petty crime (people taking your stuff while you swim, pick-pocketing, etc.) so just be more vigilant that you might normally be.

Thanks a lot, PVM. You were exactly right with the info you posted. I'm having a lot of fun here. Have been to a few of the spots guys have written about. I also went to a new place that just opened. Bliss Massage. They posted a grand opening promotion on craigslist for 10% off, so I thought I'd take a look. Got a very good massage and happy ending there from a real looker. It was 850 minus 10%. I'll be back and will get the address, but it's in the Romantic Zone around the corner from Coni Spa by the Pharmacy Guadalupe or something like that.

[PVMonger]

I get in to town tomorrow. So happy I found this site. Seems to be the best info on Puerta Vallart
A so thanks everyone. I read there's a holiday on right now. Is mongering still available?

Not a holiday, per se. You'll be here during the weeks of Semanta Santa (Holy Week) and Semana Pascua (Easter Week). Lots of Nationals from inland are here and mongering is still strong (except, probably, on Easter Sunday. LOL). Beaches will be very crowded and there are always problems during this time of year with petty crime (people taking your stuff while you swim, pick-pocketing, etc.) so just be more vigilant that you might normally be.

[Monger690]

I get in to town tomorrow. So happy I found this site. Seems to be the best info on Puerta Vallart
A so thanks everyone. I read there's a holiday on right now. Is mongering still available?

[GodDenR]

I've been enjoying professional massages all around the centro for the past few days. There's a lot of great talent out there for cheap, massages start at 350 pesos for an hour, and I was able to relax thoroughly.

But I wanted to do something I haven't done before in PV. Finding a girl on Craigslist. I wanted to stay away from all the agencies, and managed to do so (surprisingly). I replied to an ad that simply said "29 years old Mexicana". No pictures no nothing. Exchanged a few conversations on WhatsApp, and managed to meet her in the Zona Romantica, close to the economical hotels. Her "name" was Erika, she had middle of the road looks, friendly attitude, not tall but not so small. Her tiny incall was one of those half-basement rooms with a small bed, shower and toilet, nothing more. She provided an awesome CBJ (FS and BBBJ was available too, no anal), damage was 800 pesos. We chatted a little bit, and I found out her main job is a camarista (hotel maid).

So yeah, needless to say, she cleaned up good.