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  1. #3136

    Vive Sharks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stirling  [View Original Post]
    400 Euros for 3 hours didn't seem overly excessive to me. And certainly 2 of the 3 girls I met there provided excellent service. The 1st girl stayed the night with me second time I saw her for the same money on our last night there. The 2nd lady (Brazilian) wasn't horrible, but for the money I expected more and could have done a lot better. Honestly can't remember her name.

    To be fair, we only visited Vive one night. It was certainly packed. My issue was the aggressive nature of the girls. I like to scan a room, find someone I'm potentially interested in and approach her. That was impossible at Vive. Within 10 sec of one girl leaving my side there was another in my face. What's your name, where are you from. Where are you staying. Will you buy me a drink. No thank you. At least the girls at Pigmalion hold a respectable distance until you wave them over. In any event, to each his own. Both clubs will appeal to different people, nothing wrong with that.
    Stirling.
    Stirling, 400 E sounds like a good deal for 3 hours. There is always hard to talk about value, as each man has different taste, but I see your angle and would probably have done exactly the same. And regarding aggressive girls in Vive, been there. Done that. And I hate it. (that behaviour will be the death of that club, as it annoys and scares away customers.).

    Best strategy to avoid part of this pestering in Vive, is to go straight up to the bar, and have your drink at the bar. From here you can watch the girls on the other side, and as the girls move around, you will see most of them and at the same time avoid the mess of trying to walk around in the club.

    Seriously, if the management don't start to care about pissed off customers, there will be many other clubs in Madrid that gladly will accept the customers money instead.

    JD.

  2. #3135
    Quote Originally Posted by Stirling  [View Original Post]
    Josh / The Cane, you both make good points. Spain is not my usual haunt and as such only had a few days to scope out the landscape. I agree that the Pigmalion girls wanted stupid money up front, but thanks to previous posters I knew what I could get away with. (Always nice going in with local intel). 400 Euros for 3 hours didn't seem overly excessive to me.
    I went in with the intel from this site. When the girl started out with 500 euros for an hour and a half, I came back with 250 euros for two hours. She said the minimum most girls at Pigmalion would accept was 300 euros. I was prepared to go to 300 euros for two hours, especially if that was going to include anal. But then when she came back and said she wanted 500 euros just to do anal, well the hell with that! And I just didn't feel like going through these "negotiations" with every single tute I spoke to in there asking for such stupid money. Especially when I knew that I could go somewhere else and get what I wanted at very favorable rates (I. E. , Whiskeria Estark). Did I look "thirsty" (desperate)? I don't think so LOL!

  3. #3134

    Madrid experience

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshDales  [View Original Post]
    In my honest experience, The Cane are so right. The quality of the girl, are not by some nature law, bound to a specific club. Girls come and go, season changes.

    However, I do know for a fact that you guys that are looking for girls from the top shelf, are looking in the complete wrong place if you are looking in the clubs.

    The girl that actually sits on a cover of a magazine, and that do tricks on the side, do not expose themselves in a club environment. It is all about connections.

    How do you think all these instagram-babes afford their private yacht holidays and private jet weekend lifestyle? Only from ads? Think again.

    History is the same now as 1000 years ago, if a hot young woman emerge, someone with power and money will claim her. Simply as that.

    However, for anyone that has seen a celebrity sexvideo, know they ofter are absolute worthless in bed.

    Thats why another saying works good for me: A seven with great attitude beats even a nine or a ten who do not perform as enthusiastic as the seven.

    By all means, go spend big and see if you like it, we only live once. But do be prepared to find the same old truth that sports-car owners know: the most fancy car, is not the most fun to drive.

    Regards, JD.
    Josh / The Cane, you both make good points. Spain is not my usual haunt and as such only had a few days to scope out the landscape. I agree that the Pigmalion girls wanted stupid money up front, but thanks to previous posters I knew what I could get away with. (Always nice going in with local intel). 400 Euros for 3 hours didn't seem overly excessive to me. And certainly 2 of the 3 girls I met there provided excellent service. The 1st girl stayed the night with me second time I saw her for the same money on our last night there. The 2nd lady (Brazilian) wasn't horrible, but for the money I expected more and could have done a lot better. Honestly can't remember her name.

    To be fair, we only visited Vive one night. It was certainly packed. My issue was the aggressive nature of the girls. I like to scan a room, find someone I'm potentially interested in and approach her. That was impossible at Vive. Within 10 sec of one girl leaving my side there was another in my face. What's your name, where are you from. Where are you staying. Will you buy me a drink. No thank you. At least the girls at Pigmalion hold a respectable distance until you wave them over. In any event, to each his own. Both clubs will appeal to different people, nothing wrong with that.

    Monger, Patricia can be found at http://www.tumejorcita.es/.

    Stirling.

  4. #3133
    Wife and I went to Vive a few weeks ago. Doorman was definitely confused, but we confidently strolled up to coat check like we knew what we were doing and made it in fine. We were packing light and I was definitely under dressed in a fitted t-shirt, jeans, and sneakers. I could see this possibly being a problem if they are looking for a reason to keep people out. Club was 100% Romanian and Brazilian, if you were looking for a local this isn't the place.

    The wife was interested in one of the Brazilians after seeing her on the once every 30 minutes dance show, but she didn't speak any English so we passed. We eventually found a petite Romanian named Anya who spoke English and we both thought was cute. It was her first time with a couple, so she wasn't sure how it would work with payment. When she went to the desk for the room we did end up having to pay double for the same amount of time, so it wasn't the most economical choice. I had planned on that being a possibility and wasn't bothered. She was fun and enthusiastic in the room with both of us, the only negative would be it was a CBJ for me, which I know is a big deal for some.

    Overall I'd say we would probably give Pigmalion a try if we returned to Spain, or hope there was someone on girlsbcn we both liked. We both prefer the German FKK or outcall escorts more now than the club type brothels.

  5. #3132

    Important information for spenders.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Yes, there are some pretty girls there. But, they're not prettier as a group as a whole. They're not more "classy". There are far more to choose from at Vive later on in the week. And, even according to you, you can't even count on high-quality service from a Pigmalion tute for that kind of money. I'm not suggesting that nobody should go to Pigmalion. But don't be fooled either. You're not going to get "more better" just because they try to hold themselves out as "a cut above" and come at you with stupid high prices as a result, including for things like alcoholic drinks. It's a no thank you for me! And I happen to be somebody who spends big compared to most of the guys who write in these forums (at least based on what they reveal), so this is not coming from a "cheap Charlie" either. I like value for my money, and I don't see that at a place like Pigmalion in general.
    http://www.pinardepigmalion.es/
    In my honest experience, The Cane are so right. The quality of the girl, are not by some nature law, bound to a specific club. Girls come and go, season changes.

    However, I do know for a fact that you guys that are looking for girls from the top shelf, are looking in the complete wrong place if you are looking in the clubs.

    The girl that actually sits on a cover of a magazine, and that do tricks on the side, do not expose themselves in a club environment. It is all about connections.

    How do you think all these instagram-babes afford their private yacht holidays and private jet weekend lifestyle? Only from ads? Think again.

    History is the same now as 1000 years ago, if a hot young woman emerge, someone with power and money will claim her. Simply as that.

    However, for anyone that has seen a celebrity sexvideo, know they ofter are absolute worthless in bed.

    Thats why another saying works good for me: A seven with great attitude beats even a nine or a ten who do not perform as enthusiastic as the seven.

    By all means, go spend big and see if you like it, we only live once. But do be prepared to find the same old truth that sports-car owners know: the most fancy car, is not the most fun to drive.

    Regards, JD.

  6. #3131
    Quote Originally Posted by Stirling  [View Original Post]
    Hi Gents, thought I'd follow up on our trip to Madrid. I'd previously reported on our 1st night at Pygmalion. Now the rest. Saturday night we had a late dinner and most wanted to head back to the hotel. Called Patricia (found her on Madrid escorts EscBCN). Great girl, attractive and provided good service (BBBJ included)

    a successful trip. Look forward to returning.

    Piper.
    Thanks for the great report. I tried to find this Patricia online to do a link to her based on the information you provided, but I was unsure I found the correct one. Can you help us with a link?

    Thanks.

  7. #3130
    Quote Originally Posted by Berthold  [View Original Post]
    I was in both clubs 3 weeks ago, club Cuba is a total waste of time, with only 3 40+ year old girls present, I left after a quick beer for 5 euros. I was told the price for 30 minutes with a girl is going to cost you 65 euros.

    Club Kapry had 5 girls presents, 3 of them latinas okay quality, again a beer 5 euros, lady drink 30 - 40 euros, 30 minutes with a girl 65 euros, you are way better off at factory air.

    Kind regards.
    Thanks. I might pop into both for a couple of beers next time I'm on the way to the factory. It is quite fun to have a beer and a flirt with a rough one before heading for the main action.

  8. #3129
    Quote Originally Posted by Stirling  [View Original Post]
    Monday night we headed out to Vive. Place was packed. My view is that the talent level of Vive does not approach Pygmalion.
    I strongly beg to differ. First of all, you're going to use what you saw on a Monday night as a basis for a comparison? That's flawed right there from the standpoint that Mondays are one of the weakest nights of the week for most any club! And second, I've been to Pigmalion (that's the correct spelling), and I know good and darn well that there is nothing about those girls to justify the kind of money they're asking for. The ones I talked to were starting at 500 euros for and hour and a half! And then one had the nerve to ask for 500 euros extra for anal! A 1,000 euros for an hour and a half of sex LOLOLOL!

    Yes, there are some pretty girls there. But, they're not prettier as a group as a whole. They're not more "classy". There are far more to choose from at Vive later on in the week. And, even according to you, you can't even count on high-quality service from a Pigmalion tute for that kind of money. I'm not suggesting that nobody should go to Pigmalion. But don't be fooled either. You're not going to get "more better" just because they try to hold themselves out as "a cut above" and come at you with stupid high prices as a result, including for things like alcoholic drinks. It's a no thank you for me! And I happen to be somebody who spends big compared to most of the guys who write in these forums (at least based on what they reveal), so this is not coming from a "cheap Charlie" either. I like value for my money, and I don't see that at a place like Pigmalion in general.

    By the way, you mentioned that the poor performer was a Brazilian girl. Was her name "Arielle"? Because if it was, then I did good to pass on her.

    http://www.pinardepigmalion.es/

  9. #3128

    Madrid Update

    Hi Gents, thought I'd follow up on our trip to Madrid. I'd previously reported on our 1st night at Pygmalion. Now the rest. Saturday night we had a late dinner and most wanted to head back to the hotel. Called Patricia (found her on Madrid escorts EscBCN). Great girl, attractive and provided good service (BBBJ included). Another late night Sunday, but I decided to hit Pygmalion anyway (1-2 am Sunday). Not very crowded but hooked up with this Brazilian babe. Same deal as last time, but this time the service was, in my opinion not up to par. Frankly wish I had stayed at the hotel. Monday night we headed out to Vive. Place was packed. My view is that the talent level of Vive does not approach Pygmalion. The girls were uber aggressive. Not my style. We bolted and headed back to Pygmalion. It was early enough that it was packed again. Lots of talent. Left with a girl from Columbia. Service level mirrored the first night. All good.

    Last night I called the Romanian girl I met the first night. Took her for dinner and she came back and spent the night for 400. All in all, a successful trip. Look forward to returning.

    Piper.

  10. #3127

    Club Cuba / Kapry

    Quote Originally Posted by Almalm  [View Original Post]
    It is good to read some more varied reports. I might have a trip down Atocha.

    Has anyone recently been to Club Kapry Disco & the Cuba Club just A-2 highway, South of the airport?

    Are they worth a look around if I was travelling out to Factory Air?
    I was in both clubs 3 weeks ago, club Cuba is a total waste of time, with only 3 40+ year old girls present, I left after a quick beer for 5 euros. I was told the price for 30 minutes with a girl is going to cost you 65 euros.

    Club Kapry had 5 girls presents, 3 of them latinas okay quality, again a beer 5 euros, lady drink 30 - 40 euros, 30 minutes with a girl 65 euros, you are way better off at factory air.

    Kind regards.

  11. #3126
    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyBears  [View Original Post]
    The Cane,

    For pure optics I must say Vive Madrid is my number one, but I agree with you Whiskeria Estark is my favorite place at the moment, because it's much more relaxed atmosphere and the girls are friendlier and less pushy than for example Vive, and the price is right! It's half the price compared to Vive!

    But it's not the ideal destination if you are a group of guys, as said the choices are limited it could very well be that one guy don't find anyone.
    Verget not. 12 euro for drink (17 euro after 11 pm) 40 euro for drinks for girls. For 1 h to the room is +200 euro. Go only with banknotes from 500 euro.

  12. #3125

    In need of advice.

    Hello!

    I am heading to Madrid next month and would love some advice on the best full contact lesbian duo in town. If should include duo BBBJ and if possible, greet and black kiss.

    Thanks in advance!

  13. #3124
    The Cane,

    For pure optics I must say Vive Madrid is my number one, but I agree with you Whiskeria Estark is my favorite place at the moment, because it's much more relaxed atmosphere and the girls are friendlier and less pushy than for example Vive, and the price is right! It's half the price compared to Vive!

    But it's not the ideal destination if you are a group of guys, as said the choices are limited it could very well be that one guy don't find anyone.

  14. #3123

    Irena.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeddyBears  [View Original Post]
    Visited Whiskeria Estark aka Diana+ on Monday, took a taxi from Gran Via cost 19 euro, there are no entrance fee at this club, 30-40 women in this relatively small club, most of them are 35+ those in their 20's could be counted on your right hand's fingers. As others has pointed out before me at this club you have only a few options if you don't have a fetish for older women with weight problems.
    My favorite spot in Madrid my friend! Had some damn good sex in the place. And, it only takes one or two a night, and I've found Whiskeria Estark to deliver for me every time. If you see her, I highly recommend "Irena" from Hungary. Twenty-something brunette with nice tight body, pretty face with a cute little upturned tip of the nose, nice tight butt hole and prefers it in the ass, BBBJ / CIM (all over her willing and waiting lips). And the price was right too! Hell yes! I love this "hobby", as expensive as it is.

  15. #3122
    Visited Whiskeria Estark aka Diana+ on Monday, took a taxi from Gran Via cost 19 euro, there are no entrance fee at this club, 30-40 women in this relatively small club, most of them are 35+ those in their 20's could be counted on your right hand's fingers. As others has pointed out before me at this club you have only a few options if you don't have a fetish for older women with weight problems.

    First up for me was Gabriella from Romania probably in her early thirties, didn't ask. Long semi blond hair with modest enhanced tits, she has a very slim figure for her age, booked her for an hour €100 was the damage inc DFK, DATY, fingering and BBBJ she had a really tight. Highly recommended!

    Sat in the lounge for about 20 minutes when Natalia came down from the stairs, she is a young white girl from Dominican Republic with modest enhanced tits she claims said she was 23 could be true. A part from Gabriella she was the only girl at the club that I was interested in so I confronted her and agreed on 120 for an hour inc DATY which she loved, BBBJ and DFK. I had such a good time with her so I extended for another hour for €100, Natalia was also tight as fuck!! I want to repeat her ASAP!

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