Streetwalker Reports

[CaptJackSparro]

I don't think any of us know for sure, but we are using street smarts. If the girl receive a call after time is up. I assume she's being managed. One girl showed me her what's app message with some other girl who basically asked if she was ok and had received my payment. She replied yes. Other times, they will tell the girl standing next to them which hotel they are going to and that's the only communication they have as to where they are going. Maybe both girls have the same pimp?

Standing near Cascadas is extremely valuable for SG. I'm sure pimps or big daddy HKs pockets get greased for the privilege of standing on prime real estate. Everything in Zona norte is pay to play. Someone is getting a cut of the girls work, for sure.

Even the bar girls have large upfront costs before they can start working at HK (sexy clothes, health card is $100, etc).

Bar girls are just pimped by a corporation rather than a single person. They must pay fines if they break some of HKs rules.

HK describes their girls as freelance employees whose job it is to sell fichas for the bar. Seems reasonable on the surface.

However, if girls are gone for over 1 hour they may have to pay a fine when they return to the club. Reason is supposedly because the bar missed out on potential profit while she was gone. Everyone knows HK is essentially a brothel, but they have to operate as a strip bar for legal reasons. Their whole business model is politer pimping.

"Buy this $10 drink. We keep $8, she keeps 2".

"You were gone for 3 hours, [Deleted by Admin] where's my cut?

Pimps don't always take 100% .

Going down the rabbit hole of morality about what happens to your money once it leaves your hands is silly IMO.

Anti prostitution propaganda would have you believe some girls working at HK are probably trafficked sex slaves. Who the hell knows. Until US customs warns me to stay away Zona Norte I will trust that I shouldn't feel bad about going.

That's what I assumed. I don't have a ton of experience with SGs. I've gotten to know a few escorts and don't think they are managed like that. And I don't want to get on any high moral ground or let anyone think I'm judging anything or anyone. But managed girls just don't feel good. Protection is one thing. But if they aren't 100% into this business on their own, voluntarily, that's a deal breaker for me. Obviously, I'll never know that for certain, but just a downer. In the past, SGs have been my fall back. If I am just not feeling good with the BG selection, I lower the bar and don't mind losing $35. Not sure if I'll follow through with that logic this time.

Interestingly, I'll just say that the rotation in the US exists today. And I steer far clear of that activity.

[Dcrist0527]

That's what I assumed. I don't have a ton of experience with SGs. I've gotten to know a few escorts and don't think they are managed like that. And I don't want to get on any high moral ground or let anyone think I'm judging anything or anyone. But managed girls just don't feel good. Protection is one thing. But if they aren't 100% into this business on their own, voluntarily, that's a deal breaker for me. Obviously, I'll never know that for certain, but just a downer. In the past, SGs have been my fall back. If I am just not feeling good with the BG selection, I lower the bar and don't mind losing $35. Not sure if I'll follow through with that logic this time.

Interestingly, I'll just say that the rotation in the US exists today. And I steer far clear of that activity.

Boyfriend, pimp, padrote, husband, all very similar. Not by an agency or the hotel although some padrotes have had "family businesses" for several generations, many based out of a town in state of Puebla. Girls rotated between key cities in Mexico and USA although have not heard of any being in the US for several years it was common 10 yrs ago.

[Ninguno Especial]

What exactly does managed mean? I know the obvious definition. But specifically, are most managed by a BF? By a "professional"? And is this "management" similar to the setup in the US? I avoid managed girls in the US for numerous reasons. Is the arrangement different in Tijuana?

Boyfriend, pimp, padrote, husband, all very similar. Not by an agency or the hotel although some padrotes have had "family businesses" for several generations, many based out of a town in state of Puebla. Girls rotated between key cities in Mexico and USA although have not heard of any being in the US for several years it was common 10 yrs ago.

[CaptJackSparro]

I tend to agree. I feel really bad for the guys who willingly pay $120 for starfish sex. ID much rather jerk off than deal with a lot of the bar girls who feel entitled to get paid the same hourly rate a doctor would get in paid in the US for what is essentially low-skilled labor if they aren't going to knock my socks off. I mean, really think about how lucky these girls are. Most of them come from poverty and are able to help out their families A LOT with the opportunities the Zona provides.

Most will do enough to get you hard so you start thinking with your dick and when you get to the room they don't really care if you finish as long as they get paid. Obviously its not their problem if you can't finish but its a shitty feeling to give a girl $80 and getting shitty service once you get upstairs. Many girls are cool downstairs and then pull a switcheroo once you get to the room.

Being a BG isn't easy, but it sure as hell beats working in a Mexican factory or any other job most of these girls qualify for with little to no education.

Guys need to stop spoiling these girls or acting like they're doing you a huge favor.

No, you're doing them a huge favor by providing them basically the only way they can live like Mexican royalty by doing nothing other than being hot and friendly.

Personally I only street girls. I am mainly interested in BJ's and cannot see paying $50-$80 for one.

[Hargow20]

I have never had any problems on the bridge during daytime. These days if am walking home across the bridge late at night I take Uber instead. If you do cross the bridge try and walk near other people.

Walking across that bridge is a bad idea for anyone who looks non Mexican. For starters they aren't fools. They knew it was a good chance you were going to strip clubs. Which means money. The reason they know you are going up strip clubs is because no Americans do anything else in Tijuana. I've been to Tijuana clubs movies LA playas. I never see gringos. I've been to all the hot local spots in Tijuana I stand out like a sore thumb. Americans are just not both in with Tijuana other then quick day trip to revolucion. Take the bus it's 60 cents.

[Hargow20]

Personally I only street girls. I am mainly interested in BJ's and cannot see paying $50-$80 for one.

Anyone see street girls exclusively? I love their prices, but it seems much harder to connect with them for GFE like service. I like to connect with girls but it seems much harder since they are serious clock watchers and are managed.

Do I just need to buy a longer period of time or is it best to stick with bar girls for more GFE and chance of more relaxed service?

[Long Don Silva]

Anyone see street girls exclusively? I love their prices, but it seems much harder to connect with them for GFE like service. I like to connect with girls but it seems much harder since they are serious clock watchers and are managed.

Do I just need to buy a longer period of time or is it best to stick with bar girls for more GFE and chance of more relaxed service?

If you feel the slightest hint of a connection with a street girl, give her 100 pesos tip after the session. After each repeat session with the same tip, her comfort level will gradually increase. It takes time and patience, but it can happen. Play it by ear. If the relationship stagnates, move on.

[CaptJackSparro]

Much like the states, you have to assume any girl on the street has a pimp, especially in Mexico where they are easy targets of police and low lives who could make life difficult for them if they don't agree to be pimped.

Of course I don't have any proof but I think it would be a little naive to think that most street girls are independent business women. At the very least, I assume they have to pay for "protection" from criminal elements, much like I'm sure most of the bars in Zona are paying to keep crime away from Zona Norte.

I'd be absolutely astonished if someone can prove that there isn't a ton of extortion going on in the Zona, to be honest. There's too much money floating around in that otherwise destitute neighborhood.

What exactly does managed mean? I know the obvious definition. But specifically, are most managed by a BF? By a "professional"? And is this "management" similar to the setup in the US? I avoid managed girls in the US for numerous reasons. Is the arrangement different in Tijuana?

[CaptJackSparro]

I have 2 BGs that I hang out with from time to time for free, but its not on demand. I sense your sarcasm my friend. Interested in street girls lately because I'm getting a little bored of the bar scene and view it as a new frontier. Maybe escorts soon too.

Yup, bar girls can be filthy little vixens. Done stuff with them that I assumed I had to negotiate for but they just did it. Street girls haven't ever done anything I didn't request. Paying triple the SG rate is probably quite the aphrodisiac for BGs.

Gee. You claim to have many GF's in bar, giving you free hot TLNs. Why bother with street girls?

Bar girls always play their games as nice, clean, high-class girls to extract higher rates from guys, but I know a lot of them are just wild ghetto hoes, doing far filthier and riskier sex with guys, DFKs, anal, bare back sex, beso negros ect, compared to street girls who are truer, more conservative average Mexicans who would avoid most risky acts.

A lot of street girls are open for TLNs. Rates depend on how well the girls know and like you, and would be much lower if the arrangement starts after 2 AM shift end, allowing them to make money the whole night. Offering to take them to their favorite restaurants, then clubbing, drinking, dancing etc. You may have some very good deals. If the girls dig you, they will give it to you for free.

[Naked Gunz]

Walking across that bridge is a bad idea for anyone who looks non Mexican.

Hehe, in the late nineties I used to stagger back across that bridge to the border all the way from the Zona, even get lost in some neighborhoods. HK was a mere shell of itself then. Times they-are-a-changing!

[Dcrist0527]

What exactly does managed mean? I know the obvious definition. But specifically, are most managed by a BF? By a "professional"? And is this "management" similar to the setup in the US? I avoid managed girls in the US for numerous reasons. Is the arrangement different in Tijuana?

Since 2014 I do only SG after scoring BIG in HK but haven't returned for any serious "shopping". The key to the best SG experience is imo, squeezing a lot of fruit before you buy. That is to say tune in the the subtle energies, facial expressions, body language, attitude, smile level or frequency, etc. While on the street. Can't always tell by the initial meeting but sometimes.

Also repeats help a lot. Often I negotiate the basic which translates to about the same as buying a couple of drinks at HK (or less) $$ wise. I don't even plan on sex with most the 1st time but to relax them and speak in private, ask some questions, tell them what you are looking for. In my case it is a "go to SG" as I don't need variety when I find one that works and really turns me on. 90% of them don't turn me on even some of the 8's to 10's. I want one who fits my definition of sexy and works well in the fantasy. (it's not all physical though chemistry helps).

[Ninguno Especial]

Anyone see street girls exclusively? I love their prices, but it seems much harder to connect with them for GFE like service. I like to connect with girls but it seems much harder since they are serious clock watchers and are managed.

Do I just need to buy a longer period of time or is it best to stick with bar girls for more GFE and chance of more relaxed service?

Since 2014 I do only SG after scoring BIG in HK but haven't returned for any serious "shopping". The key to the best SG experience is imo, squeezing a lot of fruit before you buy. That is to say tune in the the subtle energies, facial expressions, body language, attitude, smile level or frequency, etc. While on the street. Can't always tell by the initial meeting but sometimes.

Also repeats help a lot. Often I negotiate the basic which translates to about the same as buying a couple of drinks at HK (or less) $$ wise. I don't even plan on sex with most the 1st time but to relax them and speak in private, ask some questions, tell them what you are looking for. In my case it is a "go to SG" as I don't need variety when I find one that works and really turns me on. 90% of them don't turn me on even some of the 8's to 10's. I want one who fits my definition of sexy and works well in the fantasy. (it's not all physical though chemistry helps).

Never done a TLN (overnight) and they vary as far as if it is worth the effort and $$. But have done many 30 min. To an hour. Even some 90 min. Ones at love motels after rapport was built. They need to know you and trust you before traveling far. Be prepared to pay upwards of 1200 pesos if an hour or more at your preferred location though many would take less imo.

As far as service, the vast majority give sub par service compared to BG's but some give excellent, much better... it all varies... Many have worked in bars before then returned to the street... also several bar girls worked in the streets for months or years prior to going inside... True most SG's are "managed" but many give great service even with that... those not managed were at some point and since becoming freelancers are more negotiable imo

[Dcrist0527]

It goes without saying, YMMV. However, your experiences mirror what many report. GFE is much more common with escorts and BGs. In my experience, the escorts are far more likely to provide true GFE. (I'd estimate an 80-90% likelihood, in my experience.) Next would be BGs, which I would estimate maybe 40-50% chance, depending on your investment (time and money). SGs serve the purpose but I've had about 10% chance of GFE with SGs.

Anyone see street girls exclusively? I love their prices, but it seems much harder to connect with them for GFE like service. I like to connect with girls but it seems much harder since they are serious clock watchers and are managed.

Do I just need to buy a longer period of time or is it best to stick with bar girls for more GFE and chance of more relaxed service?

[VegasGambler9]

Yes more detailed post are needed. You are also very informative. Research is my best friend.

Anyone see street girls exclusively? I love their prices, but it seems much harder to connect with them for GFE like service. I like to connect with girls but it seems much harder since they are serious clock watchers and are managed.

Do I just need to buy a longer period of time or is it best to stick with bar girls for more GFE and chance of more relaxed service?

Anyone done TLN with a SG? What are the going rates? Same or better service tln than bar girl?

Seems you might enjoy escorts more than both BG and SG Right now Everyone is talking about http://greysgirls.cuties-sites.com/girls/ and the $98 for 90 minuets. It's almost always GFE.

Prices of streets girls vary the closer to HK the higher the price. They say the newer girl out side of Ibiza motel will sin ropa for 250 pesos for 15 minuets.

[Captain Solo]

Gee. You claim to have many GF's in bar, giving you free hot TLNs. Why bother with street girls?

Bar girls always play their games as nice, clean, high-class girls to extract higher rates from guys, but I know a lot of them are just wild ghetto hoes, doing far filthier and riskier sex with guys, DFKs, anal, bare back sex, beso negros ect, compared to street girls who are truer, more conservative average Mexicans who would avoid most risky acts.

A lot of street girls are open for TLNs. Rates depend on how well the girls know and like you, and would be much lower if the arrangement starts after 2 AM shift end, allowing them to make money the whole night. Offering to take them to their favorite restaurants, then clubbing, drinking, dancing etc. You may have some very good deals. If the girls dig you, they will give it to you for free.