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[Chocha Monger]

The theory is very clear, but sometimes it doesn't work out.

Guys talk about going into relationships with a clear stipulation that they will not pay ANYTHING towards the girl's family, no matter what happens, and then the whole plan crashes and burns with the following scenario (true story).

The girl's sister (with 3 kids all aged 7 or under), is found to have a serious myoma and undergoes an operation. Recovers successfully, and is ready to go home. Hospital / Surgeon bill comes to 48,000 php. Local pollitician stumps up 10,000 php; family and friends scrounge another 10,000 php from various sources leaving 28,000 shortfall..

I experienced a similar situation. The girl's dear mama was hemorrhaging from the pussy and needed surgery to remove her womb. The bill was a bit over P100,000 and I was asked for P50,000. I gave P0. 00, as it was not my responsibility. They figured it out between Phil Health, 2 OFW daughters, other relatives, politicians, and religious charities.

Asking the foreigner to pay is the easy and lazy way out. The foreigner is unlikely to get any sort of gratitude out of picking up the bill. In fact, he will open himself up to future requests for cash once other Flips get word that he is a soft target. Mongers just need to harden the fuck up! If it is not a wife or biological offspring, then there is no obligation to pick up the bill. Once the foreigner opens his eyes and realizes that Flips will not pick up the bill for him, saying no to their desperate pleas for cash is very easy.

Furthermore, if the foreigner is supporting the girl in the relationship that is already enough, especially if she is getting a college education out of it. When she graduates, she can work and give as much of her salary as she wants to her family. Setting oneself up, as a ready source of cash for Flips in crisis is a bad idea, as it can lead to unintended consequences for the foreigner. The heroes who just cannot resist reaching into their pockets to save them will disagree. Just remember marrying a Filipina does not make you part of her family. You are still a foreigner and a walking ATM in their eyes. Any doubts, just read my post on the Aussie widower who repatriated the corpse of his Filipina wife, gave her family money, and tried to build a house to live near to them. He was forced to skedaddle in a hurry to sound of gunfire after his brother-in-law fleeced him for all he was worth.

[Mr Enternational]

RK's sample 'sob story' was a true story. So even in this case, even when you can check with your own eyes that the sister is in hospital, you would not give any money?

I know it was a true story, but Mogwai that is not my responsibility. If I was out here trying to help everyone that needed it, then I would be the one needing it!

[Mogwai]

Sob stories (no matter how true they may be) just do not get me to loosen purse strings.

RK's sample 'sob story' was a true story. So even in this case, even when you can check with your own eyes that the sister is in hospital, you would not give any money?

[Mr Enternational]

Please dear rich brother-in-law, can you provide 28,000 php so the sister can return home to her small brood?

What do you do? The family has never asked for anything prior to this event.

This scenario, as I said earlier, is a true story. The take-away is that once you get serious about a woman then you have to factor in all sorts of things occurring in the extended family, even if they are hard-working, loyal people with no history of free-loading at all.

LOL. RK I am a hard nut to crack when it comes to giving out money. Sob stories (no matter how true they may be) just do not get me to loosen purse strings. I guess my money is not as easy to come by as other's. See I think of all those sleepless nights I had studying, doing research, and doing reports and projects. Not to mentional all the money that I STILL owe for school. I think about those early mornings that I have to wake up at sometimes 3:30am for work and the days that I have been working all night.

My daughter just had twins out of wedlock. I pleaded with her to not have the kids although I love them so much. But I understood the shit that lied ahead. So she had fair warning but made HER decision. 5 months later when she is going through all kind of shit with the guy she asked me for $150 to register my grandkids in school. Sure. No problem. But do understand that is your Mother's Day gift. She understood and said there are sacrifices when you must make when you are a parent. I am a firm believer in if you make your bed you are the one that has to lie in it. You can not expect others to foot the bill for the things that you are going through in life and the choices that you make.

Sure I will give my kid random money every now and then, but that is only when I feel like it. You know the reason why I only had 1 kid? Because I didn't want to take care of any more! So I will be damned if I am taking care of my wife's or girlfriend's family or family's problems. I told my daughter that the best day of my life was the day she was born, and the second best day was the day she turned 18 and the final payment was taken out of my check.

[Wicked Roger]

Please dear rich brother-in-law, can you provide 28,000 php so the sister can return home to her small brood?

What do you do? The family has never asked for anything prior to this event.

This scenario, as I said earlier, is a true story. The take-away is that once you get serious about a woman then you have to factor in all sorts of things occurring in the extended family, even if they are hard-working, loyal people with no history of free-loading at all.

Never a truer word said on this subject RK. I have plenty of examples also.

[Red Kilt]

I would not work my ass off to take care of someone else's freeloading family.

The theory is very clear, but sometimes it doesn't work out.

Guys talk about going into relationships with a clear stipulation that they will not pay ANYTHING towards the girl's family, no matter what happens, and then the whole plan crashes and burns with the following scenario (true story).

The girl's sister (with 3 kids all aged 7 or under), is found to have a serious myoma and undergoes an operation. Recovers successfully, and is ready to go home. Hospital / Surgeon bill comes to 48,000 php. Local pollitician stumps up 10,000 php; family and friends scrounge another 10,000 php from various sources leaving 28,000 shortfall. The sister cannot leave the hospital until bill is paid.

Please dear rich brother-in-law, can you provide 28,000 php so the sister can return home to her small brood?

What do you do? The family has never asked for anything prior to this event.

This scenario, as I said earlier, is a true story. The take-away is that once you get serious about a woman then you have to factor in all sorts of things occurring in the extended family, even if they are hard-working, loyal people with no history of free-loading at all.

[Mr Enternational]

I have been with teachers, nurses, office girls, travel agent, hotel workers etc. But all did not say o to money offered. Unless you find much older ladies economically all young girls are poor. If you marry thinking you do not need to support her family think twice.

That is ridiculous. I would not say no to money offered either. If I went to my dad or my daughter and offered money then they would take it too. You offering is not the same as them asking or them expecting.

If you think you should have to support someone's family because you married them then you are crazy. If they want their family supported then they get a job, take care of the responibilities in your household however you decide to divvy them up, then they are free to send whatever they want to their family. There are no free rides. And whoever is giving out free rides is a damn fool (unless they are giving the free ride to me.) I would not work my ass off to take care of someone else's freeloading family.

[Sammon]

I agree with Tagalog2016. You need to go in with your eyes open and understand the environment.

I have been visiting since 1976. The only thing that has changed since then is some paved roads and the currency exchange rate.

When I was a young sailor in Olongapo I had no idea what was going on so I made all the usual mistakes to include a one year failed marriage to a "regular girl". Like they say, "you can take the girl out of the PI, but you can't take the PI out of the girl".

I go now to have fun, stay in a nice hotel, BS with the girls, have a few "dates" and say good-bye. If I was looking for a "relationship" it would need to be with someone on equal economic terms, otherwise, as was noted below, it would be all about the money.

My next trip will be a "Date in Asia" trip, as the bar girl scene in Angeles seems to have gone downhill based on what I have been reading in this forum.

I have been with teachers, nurses, office girls, travel agent, hotel workers etc. But all did not say o to money offered. Unless you find much older ladies economically all young girls are poor. If you marry thinking you do not need to support her family think twice.

[Mahaba]

I agree with Tagalog2016. You need to go in with your eyes open and understand the environment.

I have been visiting since 1976. The only thing that has changed since then is some paved roads and the currency exchange rate.

When I was a young sailor in Olongapo I had no idea what was going on so I made all the usual mistakes to include a one year failed marriage to a "regular girl". Like they say, "you can take the girl out of the PI, but you can't take the PI out of the girl".

I go now to have fun, stay in a nice hotel, BS with the girls, have a few "dates" and say good-bye. If I was looking for a "relationship" it would need to be with someone on equal economic terms, otherwise, as was noted below, it would be all about the money.

My next trip will be a "Date in Asia" trip, as the bar girl scene in Angeles seems to have gone downhill based on what I have been reading in this forum.

Few hundreds professional women which you refer to still could fit in my definition taking into account hundreds of thousands WGs which you didn't mention.

I know some pinays with good office job, whom I can call a professional in their business, which still doesn't bother them to cheat foreigners. After work she could skype with her daddy sponsor, who visits her twice a year and after sweet "buy bye baby, I love you", she login DIA immediately to arrange fucking with a monger, who will come at her city next week. I know pro WG from Cebu, who is office worker in one quite reputable company. She says, she enjoys her lifestyle and nobody at work knows about her second work after hours.

FYI I am not a pinoy, but I have enough experience to conclude about Filipinas. You may have different point of view, and I won't dispute. This is a forum to share different opinions.

[Soapy Smith]

Perhaps the Donald has an ISG account in which he shares his exploits and offers advise. We know his penchant for trenchant bursts of wisdom on social media.

No, he has Michael Cohen and other associates to handle background for his exploits. I have not observed this trenchant wisdom.

[Kabul Guy]

For me they tell me I send same introductory message too many times. Is a manner of numbers, the more you connect, the more chance you get to score.

But I can't write a diff message for everyone. No enough time.

I'm not on DIA but I do use the same intro message. Basically says here I am let's chat. I actually have a keyboard shortcut with that message in QuickTextPaste so I can simply hot key it.

To me the first message is simply to say I'm here, are you interested in starting the chat? I don't bother customizing it for each lady, unless there is something that stands out in her profile. I use a slightly different one for Tinder since she has already right swiped me and I assume that she wants the conservation. It's on a different QuickTextPaste hot key combination.

[Kabul Guy]

...: Roy Moore of Alabama, Bill Clinton, or that "true believer" and fellow mongerer, Trump the strumpet chasing president? ...

Three examples of power corrupting.

What I find interesting is that the support for what they did fell strictly along party lines.

Clinton was defended by the Dems and vilified by the GOP for lying about a BJ in the Oval Office.

Trump was defended by the GOP and vilified by the Dems for his sexual behaviors.

[Member #1088]

Couple of years ago you would never ever will be allowed to get back your account. Nowadays irrespective who complains they physically check your messages to see if you have broken the rules. If it is not serious they will let you back in.

For me they tell me I send same introductory message too many times. Is a manner of numbers, the more you connect, the more chance you get to score.

But I can't write a diff message for everyone. No enough time.

[Member #1088]

No such luck, 1088. Still, I am amazed at the Filipinas general willingness to share their hot girlfriends with you.

I think is was more of a "need". They were having financial issues. I think in the old lady mind, she thought maybe her grandniece can capture me as a long term financial provider to the whole family. Her grandnice was ok, but too shy, even when she cum she was shy to cum stronger, I had to encourage to let it go of her timid and express herself as she felt heaven coming.

I took 3 days but at the end she could "express herself" very louad and strong.

I hope to see her again in my trip next year. She told she is ready to try 3 some. She has cousin who she claimed never had BF, LOL, problably no true, but I like the pic of her cousin, she looks good.

[Sammon]

I also was kicked out two weeks ago for unknown to me reason (s). One girl was getting very suggestive in her texts to me although I was not responding in kind. That may have done it. Anyway, I just wrote them and asked to please be reinstated. I didn't have a document so I just attached a photo of me to at least have something in the box. In 24 hours I was notified I was back in. No idea why was outed or let back in, must be some kind of computer check, not a human looking at it.

Couple of years ago you would never ever will be allowed to get back your account. Nowadays irrespective who complains they physically check your messages to see if you have broken the rules. If it is not serious they will let you back in.