East China - Shanghai

[I Luv Emall]

Hi all,

I just learned I will be going to Shanghai this weekend. I will be staying near the Pudong Expo. I will have only one day free before I am joined by colleagues with activities then being limited. I've tried reading the forum a bit, but time is limited and there's a lot of information that is confusing to someone that's never been to the area before. I would appreciate some advice and options on the following:

1) Any incall possibilities, or is this not done or recommended there (or at least, not at the nicer hotels)? What would be the expected pricing and services?

2) Outcall recommendations withing walking distance, not too difficult for a gringo to find? Seems I should expect something like 400-700 RMB for this? I guess this is for one shot, up to an hour? I see several recommendations for Maria- what is her pricing and how would I set up a visit?

3) Massage parlors- any range of services is ok (he, b2 b, BJ, FS), assuming price is commensurate. Seems like I should expect from 300-400 RMB for basic massage + he, possibly b2 b if lucky. Potential upgrades for BJ / FS at 200-300 RMB?

4) Outstanding sauna recommendation for model-type experience- I only read briefly about this, but it might be a splurge I would consider for a special treat. Seems I could expect around 2 k RMB price- is that for an hour, and are multiples included, or how does that work?

Keep in mind I do not speak or read Chinese, have never been to the area before, and will be there only a short while, with essentially only 1 day for fun activities. I see references to wechat, QQ, Rain, etc, but am unfamiliar with all of these, and how they work.

Thanks, and please excuse my ignorance. I would come better prepared if I had more forewarning on this trip!

[Sinofaguo]

This is not the number I did in Shanghai only, most was done in FKK. There is no need to BSing at all here. Of course, I am proud of my achievements on this besides other achievements I can proud of, that's irrelevant to this site.

Your other post implied you did this in Shanghai from a KTV connection of yours, hence why I had a hard time believing your story but I guess its more believable then.

I fail to see what you are proud of as to me punting is just about taking pleasure and releasing the pressure... but if that's the achievment of your life, more power to you. I Just feel there are much better things to achieve in life

[PartyFriend]

A place in Changning somewhat near the zoo, 1979 Hami Road with closest major road being Hongqiao. No shower in room, but didn't matter as much when it seemed to be fully clothed rubdown, or at least it was with the one I got. Think was #2. She wasn't really my cup of tea but for not knowing what else to do just when with it, pretty obviously wasn't any good at massage. Within 10 nondescript minutes or so was asking if I wanted to add 100 for he or 200 for BJ; couldn't abide by a continuing hour of this monotonous veg and didn't get the feeling she'd be much better with a BJ, so went the middle route. Was slightly awkward in that it was still clothed at this point, unzipping just enough to get the job done. Similarly she pulled up shirt just enough to grope, which continued till the end. Think it started at 168 but could've been 158/178/188. Somehow blanking on the middle digit.

Not exactly the most amazing experience, but not sure of any other places in the area that offers anything similar. Might be possible to get better mileage, this time just didn't feel like the vibe was there.

I've tried this place too.

Fully clothed in little booth with door ajar.

10 minutes of tickling and then move downwards.

In normal conditions, that would have been a terrible experience but. The girl was a bit tipsy and great fun. And, although not fat, had a soft body with very big boobs (I mean, for a Chinese). Which I like.

I even had the privilege of a titjob, which is rare (for obvious reasons) in this part of the world.

Wandering hands accepted but somewhat limited to dry areas.

Damage was reasonable 200 + 100.

Better service is available not too far from there. There is a Spring MP about 1,5 km north, on the corner of Xianxia and Pingtang, which has been reviewed on this forum.

[All For Bb]

Posted a year ago:

You surelly did catch up within a year and 3 months. 1 girl every 3 or 4 days whom accepts BBFS from you. Many of which also accept anal sex from you...
I can understand some people feel you're BSing... I hope for your health and these girls health you are indeed BSing...

I don't understand meaning of the word BSing. English is not my native language.

I tested negative all the time. Don't worry. I can tell you other numbers you may think I am BSing, although I don't know exact meaning of this word.

Total girls I have fucked in my life to date (not count repeat, e. G. , repeat 10 times count only one): 3362;.

Total BBFS: 113.

Total anal sex: 42.

I travel all over the world. This is not the number I did in Shanghai only, most was done in FKK. There is no need to BSing at all here. Of course, I am proud of my achievements on this besides other achievements I can proud of, that's irrelevant to this site.

[Sinofaguo]

I am the regular to the managers, so indeed, just go and pick-up from the line-up. No need to tip the manager, no room costs, since she / he will get commission from the girl next day. I usually go at 8:30 pm, and have a girl I picked in my arm to leave before 9:00, my hotel just cross the street. They stay between-12 hours. The BB sex usually start next day after they send me the test results by wechat. Sometime I did it first, and ask them to test next day. Alway come negative. Never catch anything myself, even an [CodeWord109] infection type of STD. I did over 100 (113 exactly). The major reason is I pick-up student / office lady type.

Posted a year ago:

Any place provide anal service? Bareback sex?

You surelly did catch up within a year and 3 months. 1 girl every 3 or 4 days whom accepts BBFS from you. Many of which also accept anal sex from you...
I can understand some people feel you're BSing... I hope for your health and these girls health you are indeed BSing...

[Playboy2000]

This is great stuff. Would love to see part 2.

Any info about history of saunas, freebies, KTVs?

Part I:

I've been dealing with Shanghai and the "scene" for over 20 years. I first went to Shanghai in 1998 and used to hang out with a lot of guys who have since come and gone in the original location of the current incarnation of Manhattan which was located on Julu Lu. It used to be a very, very small dive bar along with a bunch of other dive bars on Julu that was managed by a young Lucy, a chick named Angel and of course a bunch of Chinese hookers. During those days I wasn't very interested in picking up hookers in any of those bars because cheap or free fine pieces of ass could be found in almost anyplace around Shanghai including the original Paulaner, Bat's Bar in Pudong and old disco called MGM and a few other places like Judy's on Maoming, DKD etc. Those were the wild and crazy days of Shanghai where the girls were cheap and sometimes just wanted to hookup with a foreigner. You could get a girl to go home with you on Friday, pay her and then she'd stay the rest of the weekend, hang out and fuck without asking for anything more. It was a fun time and most expats were pretty friendly and easy to get along with. Now, the bars are full of pretentious people from all walks of life including expats and Chinese. I've known Lucy on a personal basis for over 20 years as well and she has always treated me very well. She knows her stuff. Manhattan moved to Maoming a few short years after I arrived in Shanghai and the bar was still a hopping good place. That was when the bar's girls started to change and went through many changes and nationalities. It was also located across the street from DKD, Judy's and the original Blue Frog. First came the Chinese, mostly non-local provincial types but good looking and a lot of fun, next came the Mongolians who were very good looking and super fun but after getting drunk they'd start fist fights and brawls amongst themselves and go as far as ripping each other's clothes off while Lucy and her team were trying to pull them apart. Next the Filipinos moved in, some of the girls you still see in the bar are from that era, yes don't let the makeup fool you. Along with the Fils came the Russians. A bit more friendly back then and not yet spoiled by the Chinese because they didn't have money or an ounce of class back then. After that, the Thais started moving in and were in competition with the Fils. At the time is was probably 50/50 in terms of pussy balance. That scene lasted quite a while until the government decided to turn a great bar street into a boring park and theater. Manhattan and Judy's then moved over to. (more to come in Part II).

[Mgp23]

OK, so had the day off today and got the itch. Decided to go back to this place to address my curiosity if their was anything better available. It seems like they may have different level of girls service for those working the later shift (starting at 1:30 pm) as when I asked for a better girl / more service he had me wait 45 min till the shift started. I got 26 year old attractive no. 89. This time went for the 398 rmb session, which despite my first visit info was not an extended 90 min session, but rather topless tits massage. The massage itself was poor, but I appreciated the titties caressing my whole body and she had magic touch for little brother. There was no touching from my part. I just got the vibe that it wasn't in the cards and didn't feel like asking.

Please report if you try this place out and have a different experience.

If it's topless, tits touching is absolutely included. No need to negotiate.

[MisterLii]

I spotted a massage place called 'Aroma spa' right next to a compound. The girl standing at the door made eye contact and smiled at me. I don't trust smiles like that, so I decided to further investigate in the matter.

Thanks for the report. I've passed that place a few times but always thought it might be veggie only. Must check it out the next time I'm in the area.

[Dex Xie]

I am the regular to the managers, so indeed, just go and pick-up from the line-up. No need to tip the manager, no room costs, since she / he will get commission from the girl next day. I usually go at 8:30 pm, and have a girl I picked in my arm to leave before 9:00, my hotel just cross the street. They stay between-12 hours. The BB sex usually start next day after they send me the test results by wechat. Sometime I did it first, and ask them to test next day. Alway come negative. Never catch anything myself, even an [CodeWord109] infection type of STD. I did over 100 (113 exactly). The major reason is I pick-up student / office lady type.

Care to share how? Or does it require you to be in 'in crowd'? I mean, I'd like to pick a girl from line up to just take home.

KTV usually been a money / time wasting experience for me.

[Midwestern]

This week is very windy in Shanghai.

Stay safe!

Has the wind died down? I was on a business trip and was away the past few weeks. I am back now and itching to hit the MPs for he, and meet up with some outcall gals at ST hotels. Thanks.

[All For Bb]

Wait. So you go to a KTV, pick a girl, take them out, persuade them to go bareback, then ask them to go get a blood test, wait for the report, then do the deed?

First of all, the hot girls in Shanghai KTV's usually start work AT 9 pm. They tend to try to stay as late as possible before agreeing to go out. So starting at 9 pm is a stretch. As for 2500 for being the case, I would say that's a feasible amount. What you didn't mention is how much you spent at the KTV. Renting a room comes with a minimum. As we all know, Shanghai isn't cheap. If you are going to say you sat in the public bar area, mamasans refrain from accommodating those clients with girls to go out with, especially at 9 pm. Perhaps, you tipped the mamasan? Then that, would cost a few bills as well.

So what I'm saying basically is that you can't just go in a KTV, pick a hot girl, drop 2500, expect a girl to leave at 9, and stay for 12 hours. This isn't dongguan of yesteryear.

I fact, I did anal sex with many of these young KTV girls, same price. I guess, because they like me too, they call me "Gao, Fu, Shuai", means "tall, rich, good looking"?

[All For Bb]

Wait. So you go to a KTV, pick a girl, take them out, persuade them to go bareback, then ask them to go get a blood test, wait for the report, then do the deed?

First of all, the hot girls in Shanghai KTV's usually start work AT 9 pm. They tend to try to stay as late as possible before agreeing to go out. So starting at 9 pm is a stretch. As for 2500 for being the case, I would say that's a feasible amount. What you didn't mention is how much you spent at the KTV. Renting a room comes with a minimum. As we all know, Shanghai isn't cheap. If you are going to say you sat in the public bar area, mamasans refrain from accommodating those clients with girls to go out with, especially at 9 pm. Perhaps, you tipped the mamasan? Then that, would cost a few bills as well.

So what I'm saying basically is that you can't just go in a KTV, pick a hot girl, drop 2500, expect a girl to leave at 9, and stay for 12 hours. This isn't dongguan of yesteryear.

I am the regular to the managers, so indeed, just go and pick-up from the line-up. No need to tip the manager, no room costs, since she / he will get commission from the girl next day. I usually go at 8:30 pm, and have a girl I picked in my arm to leave before 9:00, my hotel just cross the street. They stay between-12 hours. The BB sex usually start next day after they send me the test results by wechat. Sometime I did it first, and ask them to test next day. Alway come negative. Never catch anything myself, even an urine infection type of STD. I did over 100 (113 exactly). The major reason is I pick-up student / office lady type.

[Vermonter]

OK so there may be limited folks that would be in this area of shanghai on this forum, but I thought I would post just in case there are some. Just over the line between Minhang and Songjiang on Xinsong Road (officially part of Xinqiao qu) are a bunch of MPs. Now a number I visited before last years windy season and things have changed since then so I will only report on the ones that I visited recently.

The first one is located in the same building as the McDonald's. This place has been open only about month. Because of the area I was expecting MP with he and option for extras. But I wasn't sure so I just went with the flow. Shower in the room. Good sign. But girl asked me to get changed and in the table with no shower. Bad sign. She was dressed in full veggie MP outfit. Bad sign. She wasn't warm in demeanor at all. Bad sign as she probably wasn't working for tips. Anyway, long story short, I got a very good veggie massage on back, upper butt, legs with no teasing at all, then on the flip got a mechanical HJ with nothing extra at all. Not sure if it was the girl or the place, so I'm willing to try one more time with different girl to see if better experience. Total cost 298 RMB.

OK, so had the day off today and got the itch. Decided to go back to this place to address my curiosity if their was anything better available. It seems like they may have different level of girls service for those working the later shift (starting at 1:30 pm) as when I asked for a better girl / more service he had me wait 45 min till the shift started. I got 26 year old attractive no. 89. This time went for the 398 rmb session, which despite my first visit info was not an extended 90 min session, but rather topless tits massage. The massage itself was poor, but I appreciated the titties caressing my whole body and she had magic touch for little brother. There was no touching from my part. I just got the vibe that it wasn't in the cards and didn't feel like asking.

Please report if you try this place out and have a different experience.

[PlaceKicker]

A place in Changning somewhat near the zoo, 1979 Hami Road with closest major road being Hongqiao. No shower in room, but didn't matter as much when it seemed to be fully clothed rubdown, or at least it was with the one I got. Think was #2. She wasn't really my cup of tea but for not knowing what else to do just when with it, pretty obviously wasn't any good at massage. Within 10 nondescript minutes or so was asking if I wanted to add 100 for he or 200 for BJ; couldn't abide by a continuing hour of this monotonous veg and didn't get the feeling she'd be much better with a BJ, so went the middle route. Was slightly awkward in that it was still clothed at this point, unzipping just enough to get the job done. Similarly she pulled up shirt just enough to grope, which continued till the end. Think it started at 168 but could've been 158/178/188. Somehow blanking on the middle digit.

Not exactly the most amazing experience, but not sure of any other places in the area that offers anything similar. Might be possible to get better mileage, this time just didn't feel like the vibe was there.

[Keric333]

Correct what I said. I took those just into the business: students, office ladies who make extra money during the weekend night. Also I asked them to take the HIV / STD test before doing BB sex. I counted over 100 such girls already (bb sex). I tested negative always so far.

Wait. So you go to a KTV, pick a girl, take them out, persuade them to go bareback, then ask them to go get a blood test, wait for the report, then do the deed?

First of all, the hot girls in Shanghai KTV's usually start work AT 9 pm. They tend to try to stay as late as possible before agreeing to go out. So starting at 9 pm is a stretch. As for 2500 for being the case, I would say that's a feasible amount. What you didn't mention is how much you spent at the KTV. Renting a room comes with a minimum. As we all know, Shanghai isn't cheap. If you are going to say you sat in the public bar area, mamasans refrain from accommodating those clients with girls to go out with, especially at 9 pm. Perhaps, you tipped the mamasan? Then that, would cost a few bills as well.

So what I'm saying basically is that you can't just go in a KTV, pick a hot girl, drop 2500, expect a girl to leave at 9, and stay for 12 hours. This isn't dongguan of yesteryear.