East China - Shanghai

[Midwestern]

"There are much better things to achieve in life". I agree, but it is irrelevant to discuss at this website.

About my personal numbers: majority of 3362 girls I fucked are in FKK; majority of 113 no condom sex are with KTV girls in Shanghai. Why Shanghai (not other city or places)? Because of the selections, easiness, and because I have a business in Shanghai too (convenient). Believe or not, we do not need to BSing or lying at this place. No need.

Good luck for your taking pleasure and releasing the pressure and much better things to achieve in your life.

Why is your no condom sex number, 113, so low? You're over 65 (I read a few of your older posts). You must have had GFs, one night stands, and FWBs in the past, especially when you were a young lad in the 1970's. I'm early 50's, and I have had BB sex wth over 113 girls easily. Maybe a quarter of them when I was in college and another quarter immediately thereafter. This is before I discovered the convenience of P4 P. Anyway, I'm pretty sure almost everyone on here had BB sex with over 113 girls. Why is your number so low? I'm genuinely curious for some reason. Especially since you love it. I love it too, which is why I always try to have a few GFs on the side.

[Midwestern]

YMMV indeed, even more so than a Spring. Asked to use the shower so got one of the rooms on the upper floor, but got completely open-door. Normally wouldn't mind getting vegged provided it's reasonable, but for regular massage this place is ludicrously expensive. And she didn't do a particularly good job either. Gotten better before from bjmps, and those are generally the worst.

I went there yesterday, after someone said he got FS there for 500 tip. This time, the boss was there, but as usual I got the room next to the shower upstairs. My provider was yet another older gal. She spent 70% of the time on my asshole, balls, and shaft. And after the flip, I asked if FS was available. She said no one offers FS at the shop. But asked me if I'the gotten FS before at the shop, indicating that maybe it's possible from another provider. Anyway, she wouldn't let me roam, probably because she had a bad body. The other old fatties let me handle their fat jugs. But again got a decent he. And no tip. So, not bad. You have to ask for the 60 minute 258 rmb lymph realease massage. Anyway, I don't think I'll go back there.

[Midwestern]

Relatively speaking in comparison to Beijing. Beverly, Wenli, and Cathy are all sure bets that can not go wrong.

Beverly, Maria, HuJing, Wenli, Cathy.

These are probably the most well known indies in Shanghai. I can personally vouch for the first 4. They speak English pretty well, they all have good attitudes (especially Beverly and Wenli). They will also book ST hotels for the date (I got the idea from Beverly, and then I proposed the idea to the other 3 and all went along with it). Beverly is famous for her BBBJ. It really is unbelievably good. You will pop, and then she rest with you, chat, and show you pictures on her cell phone. Then when you're ready, you boff for the 2nd pop. But Beverly has been at this for a long time and she has got to be in her early 40's now. She may be the most reviewed girl on the other famous escort review site. She is the epitome of spinner physique. Maybe 5 feet 2, and around 95 pounds. I already said Maria is almost 50 and HuJing is almost 40. I don't think HuJing is pretty, which is probably the real reason why she doesn't show her face on nightlife. Wenli has become well known in a short period of time, probably because a senior member vouched for her. She is very nice, but a little heavy, and also almost 40. I've never bothered meeting Cathy because her face does not look pretty to me. She seems famous mostly because of the kinky stuff that she'll do. They were good options during the crackdown. But since after the crackdown, I'm back to boffing girls in their 20's. As far as escort agencies, I no longer trust them ever since Steven and Judy (they ran a well known agency) got arrested.

[PlaceKicker]

You're talking about the MP on 1565 Huashan, right? This place is the epitome of YMMV. One guy said he got a BBBJ with CIM finish from a young provider. I went and got a very good he with and without tip from two different older gals with huge jugs. Then someone angrily posted that this place was a waste of time, and got no extras. And from everyone's description of the place, I know we are all talking about the same place.

How much did you tip for FS? Can't be much. They are old fatties, but for 500 it would be worthwhile and fun. I like huge tits on fatties every once in a while.

Good to hear the renovation is done. I went a few weeks ago and it was closed because of the renovation.

YMMV indeed, even more so than a Spring. Asked to use the shower so got one of the rooms on the upper floor, but got completely open-door. Normally wouldn't mind getting vegged provided it's reasonable, but for regular massage this place is ludicrously expensive. And she didn't do a particularly good job either. Gotten better before from bjmps, and those are generally the worst.

[WanderMan68]

Relatively speaking in comparison to Beijing. Beverly, Wenli, and Cathy are all sure bets that can not go wrong.

[Tyb60]

It's not the years. It's the miles.

FWIW HuJen / Jenny I saw a few times in 2017 and if there is a lot of mileage all I got to say she is getting regular tuneups. Body pictures are dead on accurate!

Maria based on some exposed picitures on a HK forum revealed a figure considerably different than the photo shoot on NLO and after that peak I lost all interest. She is looking like she could use a series of major pit stop and tune up.

Miles are okay, if kept tuned and tip top shape! But if the girls aren't genetically blessed, don't exercise or love to eat the whole thing will go quickly and there is a nice tight gorgeous 18 year old that will make you look, well you know, LOL.

[All For Bb]

Your other post implied you did this in Shanghai from a KTV connection of yours, hence why I had a hard time believing your story but I guess its more believable then.

I fail to see what you are proud of as to me punting is just about taking pleasure and releasing the pressure... but if that's the achievment of your life, more power to you. I Just feel there are much better things to achieve in life

"There are much better things to achieve in life". I agree, but it is irrelevant to discuss at this website.

About my personal numbers: majority of 3362 girls I fucked are in FKK; majority of 113 no condom sex are with KTV girls in Shanghai. Why Shanghai (not other city or places)? Because of the selections, easiness, and because I have a business in Shanghai too (convenient). Believe or not, we do not need to BSing or lying at this place. No need.

Good luck for your taking pleasure and releasing the pressure and much better things to achieve in your life.

[SamCan]

Can't imagine Hujing is under 35.

It's not the years. It's the miles.

[The Guy]

Thanks for recommending them. I agree; both of them make excellent choices for first timers. Not just because they speak English; but also due to their open personality, willing to make you feel comfortable and accommodate you. I recommend, if you don't like the make up or clothing choices, you can request them to wear less and / or wear specific clothing. As.

On a side note though, whether you believe it or not, I do know for sure HuJing at least really is 27. Maria I can't tell for sure; but I would guess her late 30's or early 40's.

Have fun.

Can't imagine Hujing is under 35.

[Marty47]

Contact Cathy--you can find her under classified ads-an adventure you won't forget.

Hi all,

I just learned I will be going to Shanghai this weekend. I will be staying near the Pudong Expo. I will have only one day free before I am joined by colleagues with activities then being limited. I've tried reading the forum a bit, but time is limited and there's a lot of information that is confusing to someone that's never been to the area before. I would appreciate some advice and options on the following:

1) Any incall possibilities, or is this not done or recommended there (or at least, not at the nicer hotels)? What would be the expected pricing and services?

2) Outcall recommendations withing walking distance, not too difficult for a gringo to find? Seems I should expect something like 400-700 RMB for this? I guess this is for one shot, up to an hour? I see several recommendations for Maria- what is her pricing and how would I set up a visit?

3) Massage parlors- any range of services is ok (he, b2 b, BJ, FS), assuming price is commensurate. Seems like I should expect from 300-400 RMB for basic massage + he, possibly b2 b if lucky. Potential upgrades for BJ / FS at 200-300 RMB?

4) Outstanding sauna recommendation for model-type experience- I only read briefly about this, but it might be a splurge I would consider for a special treat. Seems I could expect around 2 k RMB price- is that for an hour, and are multiples included, or how does that work?

Keep in mind I do not speak or read Chinese, have never been to the area before, and will be there only a short while, with essentially only 1 day for fun activities. I see references to wechat, QQ, Rain, etc, but am unfamiliar with all of these, and how they work.

Thanks, and please excuse my ignorance. I would come better prepared if I had more forewarning on this trip!

[NightLife17]

I agree with Vermonter. If you can only monger for one day, don't have much time to RTFF, and you can't speak Chinese, then the easiest thing to do is to contact Maria or HuJing, and ask her to come to your hotel. Maria and HuJing can both speak English. But Maria is pushing 50 and HuJjing is pushing 40 (despite any claims to the contrary), so I don't know how you feel about that. But both have big tits, especially Maria. Both do BBBJ, though, nothing great. And I personally do not find HuJing to be very attractive, and Maria wears too much makeup. But both are good options for a first-timer in Shanghai. Anyway, good luck. And no need to report on your experience. Most of us have boffed both, haha.

Thanks for recommending them. I agree; both of them make excellent choices for first timers. Not just because they speak English; but also due to their open personality, willing to make you feel comfortable and accommodate you. I recommend, if you don't like the make up or clothing choices, you can request them to wear less and / or wear specific clothing. As.

On a side note though, whether you believe it or not, I do know for sure HuJing at least really is 27. Maria I can't tell for sure; but I would guess her late 30's or early 40's.

Have fun.

[Midwestern]

Keep in mind I do not speak or read Chinese, have never been to the area before, and will be there only a short while, with essentially only 1 day for fun activities. I see references to wechat, QQ, Rain, etc, but am unfamiliar with all of these, and how they work.

Thanks, and please excuse my ignorance. I would come better prepared if I had more forewarning on this trip!

I agree with Vermonter. If you can only monger for one day, don't have much time to RTFF, and you can't speak Chinese, then the easiest thing to do is to contact Maria or HuJing, and ask her to come to your hotel. Maria and HuJing can both speak English. But Maria is pushing 50 and HuJjing is pushing 40 (despite any claims to the contrary), so I don't know how you feel about that. But both have big tits, especially Maria. Both do BBBJ, though, nothing great. And I personally do not find HuJing to be very attractive, and Maria wears too much makeup. But both are good options for a first-timer in Shanghai. Anyway, good luck. And no need to report on your experience. Most of us have boffed both, haha.

[Tyb60]

Hi all,

I just learned I will be going to Shanghai this weekend. I will be staying near the Pudong Expo. I will have only one day free before I am joined by colleagues with activities then being limited. I've tried reading the forum a bit, but time is limited and there's a lot of information that is confusing to someone that's never been to the area before. I would appreciate some advice and options on the following:

1) Any incall possibilities, or is this not done or recommended there (or at least, not at the nicer hotels)? What would be the expected pricing and services?

2) Outcall recommendations withing walking distance, not too difficult for a gringo to find? Seems I should expect something like 400-700 RMB for this? I guess this is for one shot, up to an hour? I see several recommendations for Maria- what is her pricing and how would I set up a visit?

3) Massage parlors- any range of services is ok (he, b2 b, BJ, FS), assuming price is commensurate. Seems like I should expect from 300-400 RMB for basic massage + he, possibly b2 b if lucky. Potential upgrades for BJ / FS at 200-300 RMB?.

Outcall is always uncomfortable unless you know the area and establishment well.

In call can be uncomfortable as they come to your hotel but with all the cameras and keyed elevators chance of follow up breaking I think small. As long as girl is discreet have yet to see trouble at hotel. See young ladies in high heels and sexy dress follow older man out, LOL.

I have tried Wenli, Linger (housewifebaobao), some of the raininshanghai and nightlife. Online ladies as incall. You can also try wild west of Wechat nearby function. I always get wechat hits at night but that is least stable quality experience and bait and switch and a very different quality girl from picture is almost a certainty.

Sauna exist but w / o local speak or guide they are hard to find and these days the wind can be blowing unfavorably at anytime and risky.

Stay safe and enjoy Shanghai, it ain't cheap nor wild there like years past.

[Vermonter]

Given your situation I highly recommend you go with nightlife. Online girl (Maria is available from there). Most do outcall, but Maria does incall (at least she used to for me) as well if you prefer. Prices are listed on their profiles at the site and you should plan to pay the stated price plus taxi fee (100-200). Good luck, enjoy, and report back!

Hi all,

I just learned I will be going to Shanghai this weekend. I will be staying near the Pudong Expo. I will have only one day free before I am joined by colleagues with activities then being limited. I've tried reading the forum a bit, but time is limited and there's a lot of information that is confusing to someone that's never been to the area before. I would appreciate some advice and options on the following:

1) Any incall possibilities, or is this not done or recommended there (or at least, not at the nicer hotels)? What would be the expected pricing and services?.

[Dave451]

I will be going to Shanghai in September and would like to know if it still has Red Light Districts. I know there was a crack down a few years ago but are things now more relaxed? I have checked various web sites, but most information is out of date or confusing.

Thanks.