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  1. #11045
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Me personally I would fuck pistons for free. LOL! But on a serious side, it can be hard for us to see the world from other eyes sometimes. We need to get under their skin. In more ways than one. But in an FKK, at least we can start getting under their skin in one simple way pretty quickly if we want to.
    Getting under the skin of girls in FKK is simple. Money.

    These girls made tough decision to become tutes, these girls are in FKK to make money, some mongers often forget that the decision they made is very brave decision for such girls to make and they are determined to come out of tuting with some amount of money that is meaningful to their life with limited options. Most girls failed to come out from tuting with such amount, mostly come out of it with nothing or minus money and most never be able to come out of tuting at all.

    Being nice and having good behavior helps in FKK as it is human to human business, but it is mostly money period.

    It is nice to see some glimpse of girls being girls when you treat them nice, but I never forget the fundamental of tute and client relations, which is money. It is strange relation though when you repeat girls over few years. We meet few times per year for couple of year then one day, they are gone in to their path of life, I actually love this melancholy side of tuting.

    I go for jogging in park with forest and pond everyday and I often think about some tutes that gave me unforgettable beautiful sexual memories. I think about that somehow especially in autumn season as it is sentimental season, it is funny melancholy feeling.

    Having said that, when I meet new stunner in FKK or else where and she is giving me those moment, I know that I am living life at that moment as I live it, this for me is one thing I love the most with mongering and every new year I know in advance that I am going to meet new beautiful young stunner who is going to give me new memory this year, this for me is the great feeling I feel every year.

    Mongering enable me to give me what I dreamed of when I was a child and secure me that every year, it is beautiful adventures that is secured. Each year and each trip my heart beat knowing that I am going to meet new stunner to fuck, I wonder how many more new stunners I will meet this year.

    High light for me is that, at the end of year month in toward end of November or early December, I take end of year mongering trip to put good period for each year end, I love ending year with such good mongering trip to put nice good period to each end of the year for living life and also excitement secure wish for another new year coming of new young beautiful stunners to fuck. It is real freezing in Germany or Zurich at that time though LOL, but it is a must trip that I take and I will always take as long as I live.

    On the side note, it is always nice to meet old monger in FKK by chance at bar etc. And listen to their mongering story and advice in life, I met few that are over 60 or even 70 who were interesting to listen to, they all advice me not to marry LOL.

    The best advice one of them gave me was, think about your wife to be the worst of worst like being real nasty in personality, looks, smell, aging ass, disability, over demand etc then if you still love her and want to live with her for life in such state she will eventually become or occasionally become, then marry her, if not do not marry LOL.

  2. #11044
    Me personally I would fuck pistons for free. LOL! But on a serious side, it can be hard for us to see the world from other eyes sometimes. We need to get under their skin. In more ways than one. But in an FKK, at least we can start getting under their skin in one simple way pretty quickly if we want to.

  3. #11043

    If you were a 22 year old girl.

    If you were a stunning 22 year old Romanian girl, what would you do if you had already decided to work in an FKK? Which FKK would you work in? Which customers would you aim for? How would your game be?

    It is all game theory.

  4. #11042
    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeLight  [View Original Post]
    Auslander and everybody.

    I am so glad I shared my info on this WG. It's amazing to read your heartfelt responses. And I have some good news to tell. This morning I got off the phone with this girl after an hour-long conversation. I confronted her on the subject a....
    You can see, this thread has already made a big difference. Emotions, sex, and P6 adventures are exciting mix, but we mongers must stay vigilant and realistic. And let's learn from others mistakes instead of making our own. Thanks again to all of you on for sharing great wisdom on ISG!
    Der Auslander et. Al. Are giving you sound advice based on experience. I have another take on it though: I long for the days when I used to be naive enough enough to fall in love with my hooker. I used to trick myself that I loved this one or that one and there was the distinct possibility that I would run off with her. Knowing better of course that I would not but I would love to play in this alternative reality. I would make myself believe it and the sex was so good.
    There was so much more passion back then.

    These days I cannot even fool my callused heart. The age discrepancy and my shape and circumstances etc. Makes the possibility of such an arrangement totally ridiculous. I really miss those days where love with my favorite escort was a distinct possibility. It feels too transactional these days. Every once in awhile I will meet a girl that will push the envelope. There was a girl in Brazil that wanted to meet me at my hotel after the privy closed there was another at Sharks that talked about wanting to exit the game. One girl that I met at a few parties in Montreal a few years back came home with me for free (long story) but even she burst my bubble a few months later by suggesting a 6 hour date for a really good discounted price because 1-hour with me just wasn't long enough. Right? TDLs for me are mostly hell these days anyway. I can't even lie to myself anymore. And be careful because these girls can lie to themselves. I sometimes think that they really believe it could work. The smart hobbyist will run like the wind but staying and playing it so much more fun. If you can believe.

    A young hobbyist is like taking a 7-year old to Disney's Magic Kingdom for the first time. I envy you.

  5. #11041
    Polyamorist. It was a few years past. I have only heard of a couple of people having similar experiences

    Just by chance your post is fatefully relevant to me. A few minutes ago I thought I was with the Peacock Gates. It turns out she is a broody camel and I have been well and truly kicked. Now I am left dejected, and deserted. I will settle for some dry dates, happily.

  6. #11040
    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist  [View Original Post]
    SmokeLight. Your story about the non kissing. I have had exactly the same experience.
    Exactly the same? Has anybody else run into this? Maybe all the girls in Germany are being told not to kiss. But SmokeLight's tale shows that if you stand your ground, you will get the Real Deal. And the girl will enjoy it more, and you will enjoy it more. She can go back with the excuse, "he was a hard case, he made me do it".

    Better a handful of dry dates and content therewith than to own the Gate of Peacocks and be kicked in the eye by a broody camel.

  7. #11039
    SmokeLight. Your story about the non kissing. I have had exactly the same experience. I continued to go with the girl because for various reasons, she was still worth it for me. Normally I insist on kissing, but every experience is different.

    I saw the episode as being within the definition of mind fucking and decided it was ok for me to participate in this one case, eyes open. All adds to the fun LOL.

    Polyamorist refers to it as emotional bondage. It is so. But there is a two way flow of met needs. She gets money, satisfies some emotional need, and I shared time with a remarkable sexy woman, and clearly met some emotional need.

    The episode is past and I consider my life to have been enriched. If I were constantly repeating this pattern of course it would be a different matter

    If your girl restores the free from extra charge dfk after your ultimatum from reading the forum replies, well done

  8. #11038
    SmokeLight. I see it could look like I was commenting on your personal experience. I did not mean to do this: I apologise for my lack of clarity due to my intermittent cursory look at this thread. I just wanted to back up Der Auslander's general point and make a general point about, as you put it, keeping vigilance and realism.

    As for your personal story: I try not to critique other people's stories, unless they are engaged in some macho p. g contest, or are of the "What I do is right, what you do is wrong, loser" ilk. If what you do is working for you, good

    Cheers

  9. #11037
    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander  [View Original Post]
    What a right load of old codswallop! She's a hooker who fucks for a living and is also fucking with your brain! Unless you are fucking her for free, do yourself a big big favour and dump her immediately! In fact even if you are fucking her for free, dump the headwrecker immediately! Believe me there are plenty of Muppets out there who girls like this very easily take advantage of! Guys who too easily part with their cash because they have feelings for a WG or because they think the WG has feelings for them! Wise up about this fast!
    Auslander and everybody.

    I am so glad I shared my info on this WG. It's amazing to read your heartfelt responses. And I have some good news to tell. This morning I got off the phone with this girl after an hour-long conversation. I confronted her on the subject and told her what she did was bad and stated my ultimatum on the DFK. My main argument was that after all, the mutual goal of the prostitute and her client is to be completely satisfied. She gets a fair pay and he has all his fantasies fulfilled. Why settle for less? After a minute or two of deliberation she accepted my reasoning and backed out. I got a clear promise that the DFK services shall resume from now on as requested.

    But wait, there is more! I was still in bed around 8 am in the morning while we video chat. This little brat dressed up and showed me her skimpy lingerie and stockings she wore in the club the day before. She said one guy fucked her in this attire except she took off her panties. She kept wiggling her ass in front of the bedroom mirror in her apartment. The view was so nice that I finished easily in my hand in 20 seconds like a teenager. We both ended the video chat with a big smile on our faces.

    You can see, this thread has already made a big difference. Emotions, sex, and P6 adventures are exciting mix, but we mongers must stay vigilant and realistic. And let's learn from others mistakes instead of making our own. Thanks again to all of you on for sharing great wisdom on ISG!

  10. #11036
    Der Auslander. Well said. We need to remind ourselves every day that there are some girls who specialise in fucking our bodies and some who fuck with our brains. Just as some of us do to them. It takes all sorts.

  11. #11035

    I agree

    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander  [View Original Post]
    What a right load of old codswallop! She's a hooker who fucks for a living and is also fucking with your brain! Unless you are fucking her for free, do yourself a big big favour and dump her immediately! In fact even if you are fucking her for free, dump the headwrecker immediately! Believe me there are plenty of Muppets out there who girls like this very easily take advantage of! Guys who too easily part with their cash because they have feelings for a WG or because they think the WG has feelings for them! Wise up about this fast!
    Well said! I would not necessarily dump her, especially if she is good in bed. But that should be a lesson about dealing with a working girl. Money is their primary motivation, it's a job for them. Let's not forget that.

  12. #11034
    Quote Originally Posted by UltraHappy  [View Original Post]
    Very easy to pay German speeding tickets with www.transferwise.com. Only costs $3 fee to pay directly to German city IBAN account. Transferwise even has an app for your phone, so you can just pay with your phone if you want.

    The administrative fee from the car rental company is supposedly to cover their administration costs for having to search their database for your info and filling out the ticket paperwork that says who was driving the car when the ticket was issued.

    Girls always coming and going. Summer is always a nice time to visit for me. Sure, a few of the girls are away on holiday at any one time, but plenty of other girls still working. I mean, it's not like they all decide to leave at the same time. Some girls take their holiday early, some late, some for 2-3 weeks, some for 1-2 months. If you are interested in booking a particular girl, that's what Whatsapp is for. For example, I avoided buying a ticket to Germany back in March because my favorite girl was on a holiday that month.

    With Sixt, the price difference per day between a Smart and the next size up is only $1-$2 per day. That minimal savings is not enough for me to justify getting a Smart. Much better in my opinion to get a Volkwagen Polo or Ford Fiesta size car. Smart has no power steering. Just my personal opinion.
    Thanks for this useful info I will use it next time. I had a train ticket penalty in my winter visit and a speed ticket in my previous visit. It was really a trouble to find information and pay them. I handled both in a way. I had to spend a few hours from my valuable time there. I prefer to spend that time in FKK when I am in Germany. I know that Polo and others just a few euro more but when you consider saves on gasoline it can goes up to 10 per day and it makes 56 Turkish Liras which is a considerable money here in Turkey. (You can have 2 time lunch with this money.).

    For Summer effect I am not sure some girls are gone some are present. %80 of girls there were newcomers. I never had a girl's number from FKK. This can be something fun when you are back in your country.

    Thanks for your contributions.

  13. #11033
    Quote Originally Posted by Takedown  [View Original Post]
    If you have never had a healthy relationship with a woman who makes a good income I guess you will see it this way. Plenty of guys in clubs who are married to good women but have a desire for younger, more attractive women for sex. Does not mean they are not in happy relationships. There's more value in a woman than good sex. Some are good mothers and caring life partners. Just because you do not see value in this does not make other men victims of illusion. They can quite possibly love a woman and still have desire for sex with other women. Open your mind. Or at least embrace a more mature view of human relationships.
    Well that is the thing you fail to understand, I understand you see more value in women than looks and sex and age, so I see where your opinion came from and your mindset. Society implanted this into your head and it is this mindset that is actually very closed.

    The thing is I only see value in women as beauty, age, and based on that good sex. I opened my mind and go different path to what society tried to implant me to think.

    Maybe you can love old women, I cannot, for me they have to be young and beautiful.

    Maybe you can see beauty in ugly women, I cannot, they have to be beautiful.

  14. #11032
    Which NRW clubs are most likely to have natural girls (no silicone) and <23 yrs? Thanks!

  15. #11031
    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeLight  [View Original Post]
    For example, after a good number of my sessions with one girl, she asked to stop kissing her. Why? She said because she doesn't want to get too close and to fall in love with someone who isn't local. It made me kinda suffer and I suddenly felt lost in my heart because I wasn't prepared for such a change. However, I care about her and I don't force the issue further. I still fuck her each time she is in a club, but it has a feel of an ex girlfriend. If she'd start kissing again, I'd spend a lot more time with her in the room.
    What a right load of old codswallop! She's a hooker who fucks for a living and is also fucking with your brain! Unless you are fucking her for free, do yourself a big big favour and dump her immediately! In fact even if you are fucking her for free, dump the headwrecker immediately! Believe me there are plenty of Muppets out there who girls like this very easily take advantage of! Guys who too easily part with their cash because they have feelings for a WG or because they think the WG has feelings for them! Wise up about this fast!

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