Ho Chi Minh City - General Info

[TakingChances]

In my first day, I reached out to a hottie civilian and exchanged a few texts but she went silent after that. I pinged her a few times more, once a day but heard nothing back until last morning. This is 9 girl, nice body, tits, fair skin, the whole package and early 20's. I invited her for dinner as the usual me. In my mind, when I am not absolutely sure what will happen, I think a dinner and skillful conversation will reveal the path to happiness. She agrees but she she is so tired and will rest in the afternoon because she works too hard because she need money for her mom. Aha! I got this! I reply saying I can help her with a little money if she likes me and I like her, which I am sure will happen. She then transforms herself and sends me all kinds of memes, really happy, sends a selfie, she is excited. Amazing what a little money can do. She will meet me at 6 pm at my hotel restaurant and then can just go up to my room if we like each other. She agrees and already tells me she can stay until 9 pm since she works at a KTV. Finally I got a sexy KTV girl.

In the meantime, I am off to lunch with the bar girl I met the day before at Pasteur street. She is so sweet and nice but I am not sensing she is P4P. I am thinking is it possible a bar girl that is not P4P? She dresses conservatively and from the conversation, I cannot really tell. We do a little sightseeing after lunch and then I excuse myself because I need an afternoon nap before the evening battle. I decided to try the bar girl again another day but now that we know each other better, I can just tell her point blank I have a crush on her and want her in my personal space haha. So I am very curious to see her reaction because she does not look like P4P.

Back to hotel, I keep looking at the KTV girls pictures and I read the stories of lady boys and saw a few here and some of them are pretty girls and very tough to distinguish. I politely ask her to confirm she is a girl. Totally my paranoia because there is no way she was not. She confirms but ask me if she can ask me a question. Oh oh, cannot be good I thought. She asks me if I have a big instrument because she is too tight and cannot handle big. Oh well, that was the end of it and we cancelled since yeah I am big. I had no problems so far with that here but from other posts I knew could be an issue. Man, this girl was so hot. Sucks.

Then I take my nap and invite the massage girl who cancelled on me they day before. She is free today so we go eat at Saigon center mall. She is more beautiful in person than in the pictures, nice lady, dressed conservatively and good conversation, smart lady. I overall impressed with the ladies here. Again, I have no idea if she is P4P, I ask about her massages and work, and everything and she does not let anything out. So I tell her I was looking for a foot massage and she says she does it. She also says she is going back to work after dinner. Wholly crap I think. A few more words exchanged and we agree she comes to my hotel to give foot massage. I swear that I still did not know what was going to happen. Weird but I like going with the flow to see where the road taken leads, one step a time I was thinking. Also, I truly respect these ladies, would never try to do anything they are not comfortable with and like them to enjoy too. If it was only massage, no problem. She drives me in her motorbike in hotel and she engages in the foot massage. We are talking all then time, and I still do not know if I am lucky or not. Damn. Until the massage is almost ending and she playfully grab my chest. And the rest was history. She asked for a tip for a happy ending but then I get the condom and she says usually does not do that. I insisted and she asks for a bigger tip. She wanted me to say how much. After we are hugging naked. I tell her 2 million including massage and she is happy. She stayed for another 2 hours, phenomenal sex, GFE, wow. Great body, strong lady with a little belly and normal tits. Experience was amazing. Want to repeat as well.

I really like to score but when I do after such chasing it feels really really good. Vietnam is proving to be the best experience ever for me. Peace out, TC.

[DocInHeat]

This is excellent. I definitely agree that this is a successful approach and in many ways, cost-effective. Better to make friends than enemies, especially with people you're trying to sleep with! Why continually nickel and dime people and get them in a bad attitude?

Doc.

You are learning that especially in Vietnam as an outsider, you are treated as a sex tourist, and nothing more. To get the most, you have to have some status amongst those you choose to play with. I am in Bangkok now, but HCM used to be my old stomping ground an. I had status in HCM, meaning, I was able to get action and privileges that most people cannot. It's something that most people who are oblivious of the "underground network" will not understand. So of course there will be those who always say stuff like, "how come that didn't happen for me?" They are always outsiders looking in. Our money is not always worth the same amount. Best believe that some people will get more out of a 100 bucks than others. It's all about who they are and what status they carry. Even in the pay for play scene. Look at it this way. You have 3 customers walk into a karaoke like Milan.

1. First customer is just a guy who has money who wants to fuck a hot Vietnamese girl because he read he can get action from an ISG thread. He only wants to spend the bare minimum for everything and has idea of the prices from reading the board. This type of customer is only a sex tourist to the establishment (which of course is illegal, underground, and has to pay bribes to the police). This customer will get scammed in every which way and end up spending money and get the lowest quality girls. They are a sex tourist, so they won't actually know any better.

2. Second customer is a guy who has a lot of money, who is willing to overspend to fuck a hot Vietnamese girl. He is more demanding and knows what he wants. This type of customer can walk into Milan, demand to see the line up of girls, and say he is willing to pay for the top looking ones to keep him company. The better looking girls will actually want to come. However, more money flashed, the more hustling they will do. This includes opening beer, water, and eating unnecessary food to run up your bill. You are still a sex tourist and they will still get you. You might have better luck with the girl. But she is not going to be top notch.

3. And then there is the third type of customer. This is me and how I used to roll in Vietnam. I'd call up my connect and tell him I want to party at Milan tonight. I want the best karaoke VIP room, no matter the rate per hour. Best one is about 350-400,000 per hour, just for the room. I send over photos of the exact type of girls I want. You have to understand that these guys who manage the clubs are nothing more than pimps and drug dealers posing as managers. I show up the club after midnight when they close. They are actually still opened inside, but the doors are shut from the outside. Manager comes to greet me and I slip 500 K for reserving me the best VIP room. We walk together and I ask about the girls and did he get the photos. He of course brings in these 10 girls, all slim, busty, white skinned, long haired with smiles on their faces into the VIP room. Some have been in other rooms entertaining other customers, but of course they excused themselves, and asked to go to the restroom JUST for this moment. They know my routine and they know my reputation. Of the 10 girls, I choose the best looking 3 to stay with me. I tip the other 5 of the 7 remaining girls 100 K each, and thank them for their time and their smiles. I go down the line and kiss the other 2 girls on their cheeks, whisper to them "next time," and hand them 200 K each. All the girls giggle and say "cam on" and then hurry back to their customers. When the waiters come in, I tip each waiter 500 K. There are two of them. I shut the door and lay down the ground rules in case they or anyone is new. First, nobody opens, eats, drinks anything without my permission. Second, since I have already tipped the waiters their money, I don't want them coming into my room, unless called by one of the girls or by me. Stay the fuck out! Their tip is for cleaning up the room when we are done. My money is better spent on having fun, instead of being scammed out of. They always listen, thank me for their tip, and leave the room a bit scared. But they always say, "he's so nice." Now the 3 girls who are left, stay and know what happens next. Usually, I chill, drink, and play a little Hello Kitty for the next 3 hours. They will sing and do their best to make me happy. The girls will each get 500 K per hour in tips if they stay with me. If I catch them trying to make extra money in other rooms, they will never be a part of my line up ever again. So they have a chance to make 1.5 M at the minimum just entertaining me. I like to tip 50 K for each time I get a DFK from each girl, but it has to be longer than 30 seconds. I also like to tip 100 K each time they DFK each other for 30 seconds as well. Honestly, the only thing we ever consume each time I book a room was water because of thirst from playing Hello Kitty and the fruit platter. I will always end of choosing only 1 of the 3 girls to come back to my room. I never had to discuss money or how much. Often when we got back to the room and banged each others brains out, they didn't want any payment. They would ask for me to be their boyfriend, be a good boy, and not go back to the karaoke. I of course handed them 8 green bills with Ho Chi Minh's face, smiled, and whispered "next time."

P.S. So imagine if you had the reputation of the third type of customer. Every manager at every karaoke bar will give you a blow job in order to keep you as their customer. This is how you have access to everything better.

Also try Thai Binh 3 Hotel on 22 NGO Quyen (D5). Call them first and book a room reservation for their karaoke. Mainly cater to the Chinese, Taiwanese, and Hong Kong and some Vietnamese locals as well. Others are welcome but tip the mamasan well to get the right girls for you if you can't speak the language. Follow some of my tips above about the waiters. They have about 20-30 girls per night. Have fun and tell the mamasan, her favorite customer the generous, kind, handsome guy with the cap and sleeved out tattoos sent you. Enjoy.

[Asian Lover Oz]

She is so hot. I kept inviting her to meet me until she actually asks me if I want service .

Looks like it eventually paid off in this case, well done. But I can see how frustrating your experiences have been. Approaching random girls on the street is fine in BKK or MNL but in Vietnam you have so many obstacles to this approach in Vietnam, even for a good looking guy like you.

It such a shame as the girls are simply stunning in general. Living there long term is very tempting.

[TakingChances]

You are learning that especially in Vietnam as an outsider, you are treated as a sex tourist, and nothing more. To get the most, you have to have some status amongst those you choose to play with. I am in Bangkok now, but HCM used to be my old stomping ground an. I had status in HCM, meaning, I was able to get action and privileges that most people cannot. It's something that most people who are oblivious of the "underground network" will not understand. So of course there will be those who always say stuff like, "how come that didn't happen for me?" They are always outsiders looking in. Our money is not always worth the same amount. Best believe that some people will get more out of a 100 bucks than others. It's all about who they are and what status they carry. Even in the pay for play scene. Look at it this way. You have 3 customers walk into a karaoke like Milan.

1. First customer is just a guy who has money who wants to fuck a hot Vietnamese girl because he read he can get action from an ISG thread. He only wants to spend the bare minimum for everything and has idea of the prices from reading the board. This type of customer is only a sex tourist to the establishment (which of course is illegal, underground, and has to pay bribes to the police). This customer will get scammed in every which way and end up spending money and get the lowest quality girls. They are a sex tourist, so they won't actually know any better...

I like your style! Thank you for the KTV recommendation! To be honest, I do not think I would go back alone to a KTV. If you are around and would like to join me, that would be nice.

[TakingChances]

I was thinking I need to go for broke. One of the civilian girls I have been chatting with in we chat have been difficult to engage. She is going to college and busy all the time but she kept in touch. She is so hot. I kept inviting her to meet me until she actually asks me if I want service with her which I played dumb at first to understand exactly what she meant. Well well well, she wanted 1.3 M for FS which I promptly agreed. It is funny how it happened. I initiated the contact with this girl and also she has all sorts of personal pictures with friends and family in we chat. Couple that with the fact she seemed always busy with other stuff, I was hopeful this was going to be great. She seemed genuine in the text exchanges also.

Just after lunch, when her classes end, she shows up in a smoking hot dress, she is 23 which I believe. She is shy but I am a master in breaking the ice. All said and done, GFE experience, non rushed and she stayed more than 1 hour. Great body, no signs of mileage. She did not engage in a lot of conversation and I felt she was uneasy at times. Told her would love to repeat later in we chat and she's said yes so we will see. The best experience so far by a large margin.

Then there was this other girl I initiated contact in we chat, she tells me she work in a spa so again schedule dinner and this my third dinner date. I know, I cannot let go the dinner dates what's wrong with me. She is also hot and tells me after her work we can chat and have dinner.

Meanwhile I go to the mall to try to approach ladies that work on stores or civilians wandering around. No luck whatsoever. I usually would make a nice smile or start conversation. Oh boy, I got some looks that told "why the fuck you are looking at me". I have a very non threatening approach but they react as if I am going to rob them. Geeeeeeee.

In the meantime my dinner date cancels on me. Uhmmm, she probably a had a client doing take out with her I thought. She said we can try tomorrow. So I had dinner alone and decided to wander a bit on that large plaza behind the Saigon center mall. Tons of people outside and again tried ease my way in to some girls and they wanted none of it. I think they might think that I think they are hookers because of all the massage industry and hookers in the city so they dislike any approach by foreign man.

On the way back I go through the Pasteur's street with the bars. I personally do not like the bars. I am not a big drinker, music is too loud and I do not like the game of girls getting me drunk to get my bar tab skyrocket. Again, it is not about the money, it is about experience and having the feeling you are being deceived. It was about 9-10 pm and each bar there's a handful of girls outside, sitting around. I look at them and there is the occasional hottie and they talk to me and exchange a few words. On the last bar on my way back, I spot this beautiful girl who tells me to join them. To which I say I do not drink. To my surprise she says no problem and pushed a stool for me. Engaging lady and nice conversation for about an hour so I decided to be a gentleman and buy her a drink and one for me. I finish the drink and get her phone number and leave. On the way back, we agree to have lunch tomorrow. She is cutie, hot and super nice to be with. We will see if she offer any services or if it is another dead end.

Stay tuned, more tomorrow. Peace out, TC.

[DocInHeat]

Not easy mongering? I agree it's not Bangkok, but come on. Just go to most bars on Bui Vien street or Apocalypse. Or as noted, if you do KTV, ask the manager about the takeout girls before you choose. To do the wechat thing, unless you are actually staying for awhile, you have to start making connections way before you get there. Too labor-intensive for me!

I'm back in 3 weeks, I can hardly wait.

Doc.

Feeling your pain TC. It's not an easy mongering destination by any means. Yes things are possible, but as you are finding out a huge amount of time required.

The good girls on wechat are really really good girls and unless you have weeks to wine and dine them and promise them marriage it will likely end in blue balls.

For the sweet young things easiest path is PNL massage girls. Will be $$, but at least you see exactly the goods, then it's just up to your negotiation skills.

[Mushuu09]

There are many opportunities in VN, but no knowing what you may get is the worst part. Meaning, finding girls on online, you just don't know if they will look like their photos. Then girls on the street, you hear about bad service and getting robbed / scam. All the above happened to me when I was in VN. You can head to Apocalypse which is a good bar full of cute and hot girls. But its overran by Jap and Koreans and they are easy pickings for the girls. Even after chatting them up and having a decent connection, they still were asking for 120 USD, that's 2. 7 mil in VDN. I signed up for VietCupid and had a few dates lined up, but it would definitely take a few dates to get something going. Ended up dining out on two of the girls, and getting some good head from another, but they wanted marriage if I wanted to penetrate. Pretty high price to pay. While I was in the Philippines and I went on a date with a girl, it was off to the races as soon as I got back to the hotel.

But there is plenty of options, you have to work a bit harder, there's no one stop shop like other countries. But I think the girls as much hotter in VN, but again their a bit more cut throat.

Feeling your pain TC. It's not an easy mongering destination by any means. Yes things are possible, but as you are finding out a huge amount of time required.

The good girls on wechat are really really good girls and unless you have weeks to wine and dine them and promise them marriage it will likely end in blue balls.

For the sweet young things easiest path is PNL massage girls. Will be $$, but at least you see exactly the goods, then it's just up to your negotiation skills.

[TakingChances]

Feeling your pain TC. It's not an easy mongering destination by any means. Yes things are possible, but as you are finding out a huge amount of time required.

The good girls on wechat are really really good girls and unless you have weeks to wine and dine them and promise them marriage it will likely end in blue balls.

For the sweet young things easiest path is PNL massage girls. Will be $$, but at least you see exactly the goods, then it's just up to your negotiation skills.

This is very good advice. I am the type of a person who welcomes a challenge so I am hoping for greater satisfaction if I can get a little luck and put in the hard work. I am a bit tired of massage and I was hoping to skip it this trip but, if nothing works, I will try your suggestion.

[TakingChances]

I was determined to turn my luck around. In we chat, I was now getting invited but all sorts of women. I kept the focus on and even inviting others myself. One of the girls who invited me, looked really civilian, and she was a bit more mature, like late 20's, early 30's and I thought that might be really good. After chatting we planned to have dinner. I thought to myself a girl of that age who went out of her way to connect with me, knows what she wants and will not be looking for marriage. She was pretty as well, tall and a solid 7.5.

Meanwhile, I decided to get some afternoon action so went to Tao Dan Park as someone here said they did some take out there. I walked around for about 30 min at around 4 pm or so. And then sat down for another 15 mim or so. I screened the entire park and could not find anything. Just families, kids and old people. Dammmmm. I feel like I am trying to drill oil wells and they keep coming dry.

Then I got a WG's pimp connect with me in we chat. The picture was a gorgeous girl, 9. He said if it it was not the girl, no money to be paid. Asked for 1.3 million for 1 pop. I negotiated to 1 M and told him I was waiting in front of hotel. If it was not girl, shoe was not coming up the room. 15 min later she arrives, and she is gorgeous. Big breasts, curved body. Finally I hit jackpot. This girl in Europe would be like 300 euros. Then we go to the room, she asks for money, I pay her but she says it is 1.3 M or she leaves. I hate this discussions, showed her the phone and she would not budge. I should have risked sent her home but god has decided to turn my luck around and I could not pass because of 300 k dong. She undresses and she is fit below that dress too. What a body! She does a sloppy CBJ and mounts and immediately starts to get annoyed I am not done yet. I tried a bunch of positions but of course, could not pop. So I tell her we need to try again. She was a *****. And just left me. Fuck. Is there anything worse than that? Blue balls after fucking a great body with a **** attitude.

OK, I still had dinner with my second date. She was beautiful in person and her apartment was in a building across the street from my hotel. She was also fun like my first date. I have on rule for civilians: I do not deceive them so I would never try to get hopes up of a long term relationship so I can get her to bed. If she wants to have fun with me, she is aware I am not looking for relationship. During dinner, I ask her if she has a boyfriend which is no. When she asks me, I say I have many girlfriends, one in each country a visit. From her reaction and the ensuing discussion, that is the end for this date. Man, I cannot catch a break! I am very persistent but a couple more days like this and I might cut my Vietnam trip short. I am putting the effort, the money and the time, and I keep getting the short end of the stick.

[MonkeyPaw]

Day 2 started with some sightseeing and intense we chatting. I had only one response in zalo. It seems zalo much more difficult to get attention. Let me say that I am a handsome guy sharing real picture but that does seeem to help my cause much. I also have a good swing with ladies, but man, it is tough out here.

I got a handful of real responses in we chat. Some FLs and some civilians. I chatted with 3 civilians for a while but decided to drop it after getting some sense what they are looking for or closely examining their pictures again. Got a date dinner with another one. After setting that up, decided to try some middle of day action and went to a hot toc mentioned here but to my surprise it had closed down from police raids. Disappointed went for a pm nap at hotel.

My date offered to pick me up after her work, to my surprise. She arrives in a Vespa and tells me to jump on it. My hands started to sweat and heart started to beat really fast. Now I get killed for sure in this traffic. It was the highest thrill of my trip by far but hopefully all good. Man it is scary. Never occurred to me she was coming in a vespa. After the drive I was able to catch my breath and pay attention to the date at hand. Pretty face, slim body but not really super neat appearance. Dinner was fun, chatty and she was very entertaining but not what I was hoping for. More like girlfriend material and from the conversation no way I could get action in one or two dates. Oh well, at least she was very funny and we had some good laughs..

You are learning that especially in Vietnam as an outsider, you are treated as a sex tourist, and nothing more. To get the most, you have to have some status amongst those you choose to play with. I am in Bangkok now, but HCM used to be my old stomping ground an. I had status in HCM, meaning, I was able to get action and privileges that most people cannot. It's something that most people who are oblivious of the "underground network" will not understand. So of course there will be those who always say stuff like, "how come that didn't happen for me?" They are always outsiders looking in. Our money is not always worth the same amount. Best believe that some people will get more out of a 100 bucks than others. It's all about who they are and what status they carry. Even in the pay for play scene. Look at it this way. You have 3 customers walk into a karaoke like Milan.

1. First customer is just a guy who has money who wants to fuck a hot Vietnamese girl because he read he can get action from an ISG thread. He only wants to spend the bare minimum for everything and has idea of the prices from reading the board. This type of customer is only a sex tourist to the establishment (which of course is illegal, underground, and has to pay bribes to the police). This customer will get scammed in every which way and end up spending money and get the lowest quality girls. They are a sex tourist, so they won't actually know any better.

2. Second customer is a guy who has a lot of money, who is willing to overspend to fuck a hot Vietnamese girl. He is more demanding and knows what he wants. This type of customer can walk into Milan, demand to see the line up of girls, and say he is willing to pay for the top looking ones to keep him company. The better looking girls will actually want to come. However, more money flashed, the more hustling they will do. This includes opening beer, water, and eating unnecessary food to run up your bill. You are still a sex tourist and they will still get you. You might have better luck with the girl. But she is not going to be top notch.

3. And then there is the third type of customer. This is me and how I used to roll in Vietnam. I'd call up my connect and tell him I want to party at Milan tonight. I want the best karaoke VIP room, no matter the rate per hour. Best one is about 350-400,000 per hour, just for the room. I send over photos of the exact type of girls I want. You have to understand that these guys who manage the clubs are nothing more than pimps and drug dealers posing as managers. I show up the club after midnight when they close. They are actually still opened inside, but the doors are shut from the outside. Manager comes to greet me and I slip 500 K for reserving me the best VIP room. We walk together and I ask about the girls and did he get the photos. He of course brings in these 10 girls, all slim, busty, white skinned, long haired with smiles on their faces into the VIP room. Some have been in other rooms entertaining other customers, but of course they excused themselves, and asked to go to the restroom JUST for this moment. They know my routine and they know my reputation. Of the 10 girls, I choose the best looking 3 to stay with me. I tip the other 5 of the 7 remaining girls 100 K each, and thank them for their time and their smiles. I go down the line and kiss the other 2 girls on their cheeks, whisper to them "next time," and hand them 200 K each. All the girls giggle and say "cam on" and then hurry back to their customers. When the waiters come in, I tip each waiter 500 K. There are two of them. I shut the door and lay down the ground rules in case they or anyone is new. First, nobody opens, eats, drinks anything without my permission. Second, since I have already tipped the waiters their money, I don't want them coming into my room, unless called by one of the girls or by me. Stay the fuck out! Their tip is for cleaning up the room when we are done. My money is better spent on having fun, instead of being scammed out of. They always listen, thank me for their tip, and leave the room a bit scared. But they always say, "he's so nice." Now the 3 girls who are left, stay and know what happens next. Usually, I chill, drink, and play a little Hello Kitty for the next 3 hours. They will sing and do their best to make me happy. The girls will each get 500 K per hour in tips if they stay with me. If I catch them trying to make extra money in other rooms, they will never be a part of my line up ever again. So they have a chance to make 1.5 M at the minimum just entertaining me. I like to tip 50 K for each time I get a DFK from each girl, but it has to be longer than 30 seconds. I also like to tip 100 K each time they DFK each other for 30 seconds as well. Honestly, the only thing we ever consume each time I book a room was water because of thirst from playing Hello Kitty and the fruit platter. I will always end of choosing only 1 of the 3 girls to come back to my room. I never had to discuss money or how much. Often when we got back to the room and banged each others brains out, they didn't want any payment. They would ask for me to be their boyfriend, be a good boy, and not go back to the karaoke. I of course handed them 8 green bills with Ho Chi Minh's face, smiled, and whispered "next time."

P.S. So imagine if you had the reputation of the third type of customer. Every manager at every karaoke bar will give you a blow job in order to keep you as their customer. This is how you have access to everything better.

Also try Thai Binh 3 Hotel on 22 NGO Quyen (D5). Call them first and book a room reservation for their karaoke. Mainly cater to the Chinese, Taiwanese, and Hong Kong and some Vietnamese locals as well. Others are welcome but tip the mamasan well to get the right girls for you if you can't speak the language. Follow some of my tips above about the waiters. They have about 20-30 girls per night. Have fun and tell the mamasan, her favorite customer the generous, kind, handsome guy with the cap and sleeved out tattoos sent you. Enjoy.

[Asian Lover Oz]

Feeling your pain TC. It's not an easy mongering destination by any means. Yes things are possible, but as you are finding out a huge amount of time required.

The good girls on wechat are really really good girls and unless you have weeks to wine and dine them and promise them marriage it will likely end in blue balls.

For the sweet young things easiest path is PNL massage girls. Will be $$, but at least you see exactly the goods, then it's just up to your negotiation skills.

Day 2 started with some sightseeing and intense we chatting. I had only one response in zalo. It seems zalo much more difficult to get attention. Let me say that I am a handsome guy sharing real picture but that does seeem to help my cause much. I also have a good swing with ladies, but man, it is tough out here.

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[TakingChances]

Day 2 started with some sightseeing and intense we chatting. I had only one response in zalo. It seems zalo much more difficult to get attention. Let me say that I am a handsome guy sharing real picture but that does seeem to help my cause much. I also have a good swing with ladies, but man, it is tough out here.

I got a handful of real responses in we chat. Some FLs and some civilians. I chatted with 3 civilians for a while but decided to drop it after getting some sense what they are looking for or closely examining their pictures again. Got a date dinner with another one. After setting that up, decided to try some middle of day action and went to a hot toc mentioned here but to my surprise it had closed down from police raids. Disappointed went for a pm nap at hotel.

My date offered to pick me up after her work, to my surprise. She arrives in a Vespa and tells me to jump on it. My hands started to sweat and heart started to beat really fast. Now I get killed for sure in this traffic. It was the highest thrill of my trip by far but hopefully all good. Man it is scary. Never occurred to me she was coming in a vespa. After the drive I was able to catch my breath and pay attention to the date at hand. Pretty face, slim body but not really super neat appearance. Dinner was fun, chatty and she was very entertaining but not what I was hoping for. More like girlfriend material and from the conversation no way I could get action in one or two dates. Oh well, at least she was very funny and we had some good laughs.

Horny and feeling behind, went to a karaoke but it did not have any girls. Learned that not all karaokes have girls duhhhhhh. Then went to a Japanese one but did not like the girls (For you karaoke) then went to Milan (referral from another post), only 3 girls, not great quality, only one ok. A 6 or 7. Picked her. Had fund for a couple of hours, ask her to come to hotel with me and bummer, she said no. On my way out, talked to manager who said next time he lets me know which girl offers take out. But he said price is 4 million for that. Honestly I did not like this place much: dicey on prices, girls keeping consuming all the food and drinks that they put on the room, and keeping opening beers without finishing the ones opened. I do not mind paying top dollar but deceiving me put a bad taste in my mouth. Room was 400 k an hour but consumption was 700 k of which 2 beers I really consumed. I not coming here again. The manager gave me his phone number so I can check how many girls, etc and he said action starts at 3 pm. Can someone suggest a good karaoke? Anyone interested in hitting a karaoke together?

Back to hotel and crashed hard with big blue balls. I took more risk today and did not go my away at all. Peace out, TC.

[DanGood]

Hi brother,

I would love to join during my next trip.

How to contact?

Why don't you pay the 20 US to get senior.

I know a nice girl in Saigon who gives excellent service.

Also, I'm in HCM for the long-term if anyone comes into town and would like to meet up for some mischief. I don't particularly like hitting the clubs and getting wasted. My body doesn't seem to handle it well anymore. I'll still go out of curiosity of finding ladies.

I'm fairly in-tune with most options in terms of massage places (HJ & BJ places), wechat girls, online dating, other short time options, bui vien options, little tokyo options.

I'm American born Viet and in my late 30's.

Cheers.

[DanGood]

Hi all,

I will be back soon in Saigon.

I heard Kim from Jojo spa is now giving more services. Does anyone has more information for me.

Let me know! If you don't know the place, ask me.

[Mushuu09]

I wish this post came a month sooner. I can attest that the data and speed was awesome the first week. After that, I could not load anything and had a hard time surfing on website, nevermind trying to stream video or anything of that nature. I brought my sim card at the airport (Viettel), before I went to baggage claim. It was just more convenient since I needed data to get a Grab Taxi, nor did I have to drag my luggage around outside on the streets trying to find a vendor that will sell a sim card with internet. Also, getting my sim card, you have to show them your passport, I think they take a picture or photo copy.

I think instead of listing places to go, it would help others like me (who have luggage and need phone / data service upon arrival) which plan to select. If the option to get the 10 gb without capping, I would get that plan even if it cost more in the airport than outside. But Bleble is right, the internet is capped and is as slow as shit. I had to start connecting to wifi because I got tired of the throttling. I also got the 400 k, which was like 120 min talk, unlimited text (I think? And unlimited data, for one month. Another way (I did not try), is to get data enough for a few days or week, and then getting a new plan. I just rather pay more for not throttling, once your throttle its like not having internet / data at all.

Do not buy sim card from the airport. Especially those booths that sell sim cards with unlimited data for 200 k vnd. Their unlimited data is after using 4 G speed for more than the capped data, the speed will drop to snail speed.

Therefore it is advisable to buy sim cards downtown at the local service center or anywhere throughout HCMC. Need your passport.

Possible option.

Viettel- 166 Tran Hung Dao Q1. Daily 8 am to 8 pm.

Sim card 50 k + 70 k for 7 Gb or 90 k 10 Gb. Valid for 1 month.