Vienna

[Smoke Light]

No entry fee.

Standard price is 200 EURO for an hour and 150 for half an hour. 250 an hour if you take the girl to the hotel from there.

We pay at the bar before going to the room.

No obligation to by a drink for the lady but an obligation to drink something yourself if you are not going to the room immediately. It's a bar, so people usually drink something (or a lot) before they go to the room.

MP,

Thanks again. A 150 euro option looks nice. One more question. Is time extension possible in Maxim like in FKK club or do you have to come out of the room?

[The Cane]

No entry fee.

Standard price is 200 EURO for an hour and 150 for half an hour. 250 an hour if you take the girl to the hotel from there.

We pay at the bar before going to the room.

No obligation to by a drink for the lady but an obligation to drink something yourself if you are not going to the room immediately. It's a bar, so people usually drink something (or a lot) before they go to the room.

And I assume premium fees of 120 euros and 60 euros for anal and BBBJ / CIM respectively?

[Massimo Potente]

Could anyone explain Maxim pay system? My understanding is no entry fee and service price discussed directly with the girl? Is there a standard price structure? Do you pay the bar before the room? And how much? Are you obligated to buy a drink?

Thanks!

No entry fee.

Standard price is 200 EURO for an hour and 150 for half an hour. 250 an hour if you take the girl to the hotel from there.

We pay at the bar before going to the room.

No obligation to by a drink for the lady but an obligation to drink something yourself if you are not going to the room immediately. It's a bar, so people usually drink something (or a lot) before they go to the room.

[Smoke Light]

I'm glad that I chose Maxim after reading the reports you guys left about Goldentime. Are the girls there really doing this regularly? Agreeing on a certain set of services for a fixed price, only to forget about the deal in the room. I understand that they want to make all the money, but isn't this tactic counterproductive? I mean, who would repeat a girl with an attitude like this?

In Maxim, I paid at the bar before the session and there was no talk about money or services in the room whatsoever. I feel like this privilege and peace of mind is worth the extra I paid.

Could anyone explain Maxim pay system? My understanding is no entry fee and service price discussed directly with the girl? Is there a standard price structure? Do you pay the bar before the room? And how much? Are you obligated to buy a drink?

Thanks!

[Zorp 001]

I talked to a girl who is new in GT and formerly worked all over Vienna but mostly in Maxim and FP and Babylon Klagenfurt some time ago and she was hilarious in the room when she acted out to me how it goes with the premium negotiatons once you are alreacy captivated in the room and your both nakednesses are playing tricks on your brain. It was a very divided crowd, I felt. Myself and aparently most other regular locals were obvioulsy having great fun, others seem to were very vocal in ranting about how terrible service has become (for 60). It is all a very strange trend and I still blame the German law for it. It's no coincidence that the premium came to life almost exactly in the middle of last year when it got into effect in Germany in June or July 2017.

The premium in GT is becoming a huge annoyance. I don't consider myself a pro when it comes to paying for sex, and the premium for sure doesn't help. You can see the girl's mood change as soon as you say you just want the regular service. I also firmly believe that the German laws and the premium in GT are linked somehow. Ever since this was introduced, I have way less fun in Goldentime in general, mostly because of the mindset that the girls have.

Can you please describe Cataleya? I went with a Cataleya back in Nov /16, and wow, just my type with top service. I liked her so much. I wonder if it's the same one. She was very slim on top of her body with good sized and shaped butt, and the face... Very pretty!

Wonder if it's the same Cataleya?

Yes, she must be the same Cataleya I saw in the club. I haven't been with her yet, but I might choose her next time if I can convince her to drop the premium crap.

[MonSooner]

And if they really want to heckle a newbie they will refer to "The list"

The list, the Infamous list, of course!

They'll tease anyone who asks dumb questions.

[Massimo Potente]

I think in regards to upsells or not with locals, perhaps she knows which one generally spends as much as she is looking for, and the other locals she may not know about or opts for 30 min, 60 Euro sessions. Based on this, she probably determines which one to upsell. For those guys that got no upsell, anybody that only does 30min, 60 Euro rooms? I'm thinking not.


From what I recall, she wanted 1 HR time, and for what she provides, it was well worth it.

What forum does the locals post in?

Locals post in the Austrian Erotikforum. But it is hard to read mostly because people are more arguing than providing value and the most important points they are often making are proper spelling, and how to get AO and how much the girls earn and other irrelevant nothingness. And if they really want to heckle a newbie they will refer to "THE LIST" - something that has been a running gag ever since the forum launch around 15 years ago.

As far as Cataleya is concerned I hear you and I can relate to all you say. But I wouldn't want people to expect the holy grail of GFE. She is not going to be the same with anybody always and it depends on factors like mood, etc. And sometimes also on who she likes and who she doesn't. But definitely recommended also now in her 20's. I know she had a birthday not too long ago.

[PussyLiccker]

I think in regards to upsells or not with locals, perhaps she knows which one generally spends as much as she is looking for, and the other locals she may not know about or opts for 30 min, 60 Euro sessions. Based on this, she probably determines which one to upsell. For those guys that got no upsell, anybody that only does 30min, 60 Euro rooms? I'm thinking not.


From what I recall, she wanted 1 HR time, and for what she provides, it was well worth it.

What forum does the locals post in?

[PussyLiccker]

Locals are crazy for her if not upsold. I know that it happened still on rare occasions so is making a difference between some of the clients obviously. I believe she never or almost never works on Sunday and Monday. Generally it is hard to predict her availability, I find.

I can certainly understand since I'm crazy over her as well even in a single club that I usually don't attend. She really left a mark with her beauty and service. She had a huge weight on my visit that I would be happy if I got 5 bad sessions and with only one good session from her. She was actually my first pick after a long wait. When she popped up, pretty much made my decision.

From what I recall she was 19 then, and almost been 2 years. I wonder if she looks more womanly now. You said she is tall, but my memory of her was not perhaps due to her being so young.

Anyway, thank you for the update.

[Massimo Potente]

That's the one. Thanks for confirming. Perhaps she works limited days of the week as I didn't run into her on Sun or Mon (Jul 1st and 2nd). Or perhaps out during the time. You think she will be available in mid Oct?

I got upsold by her when I met her on her first week at GT Vienna! I guess she doesn't budge, as she will provide top service for the price. It's just odd since she's such a sweety when you talk to her. She's probably a top girl out of anywhere. She fits what I look for in looks, feel, and demeaner.

Are there reports about her out there?

Locals are crazy for her if not upsold. I know that it happened still on rare occasions so is making a difference between some of the clients obviously. I believe she never or almost never works on Sunday and Monday. Generally it is hard to predict her availability, I find.

[PussyLiccker]

There is really only one Cataleya so there isn't a doubt that you are talking about the same person. Zorp001 will most certainly confirm. Describing Cataleya. She is a slim, tall brunette with a very friendly attitude once you talk to her. From a distance she seems a bit unapproachable but she really isn't. She is really a sweetheart but I would bet she is doing the premium now almost always unless you bargain hard! Or maybe not that hard because she is a soft person, I guess. For locals she is one of the more popular girls. She always sits on the table at the corner where the inside saunas are. In her beginner days at GT she was easily identifiable because of the huge necklaces she always wore. She is a super solid provider but only a human being. Hence, there have reports, even among the regular locals, that she is upselling to some and not upselling to the others.

That's the one. Thanks for confirming. Perhaps she works limited days of the week as I didn't run into her on Sun or Mon (Jul 1st and 2nd). Or perhaps out during the time. You think she will be available in mid Oct?

I got upsold by her when I met her on her first week at GT Vienna! I guess she doesn't budge, as she will provide top service for the price. It's just odd since she's such a sweety when you talk to her. She's probably a top girl out of anywhere. She fits what I look for in looks, feel, and demeaner.

Are there reports about her out there?

[PepeNder]

Returned Tuesday, wanting a repeat. Found Sonia, said I want a good time, would upgrade to kissing, CIM. Started off great, then at half an hour I said I would extend to an hour. "Well that will be the 60 half hour more, plus 40 more for uncovered BJ, plus the previous half hour, 60, plus the promised CIM 60. Plus the 30 kissing. I was like what, extra 40 after paying for CIM and Kiss, plus an hour, plus loyal customer from before. She wouldn't budge, I reluctantly said OK, though I shouldn't have, 10 minutes to now mediocre BJ as I'd lost the hardness / passion, CIM.

I'm glad that I chose Maxim after reading the reports you guys left about Goldentime. Are the girls there really doing this regularly? Agreeing on a certain set of services for a fixed price, only to forget about the deal in the room. I understand that they want to make all the money, but isn't this tactic counterproductive? I mean, who would repeat a girl with an attitude like this?

In Maxim, I paid at the bar before the session and there was no talk about money or services in the room whatsoever. I feel like this privilege and peace of mind is worth the extra I paid.

[Massimo Potente]

Can you please describe Cataleya? I went with a Cataleya back in Nov /16, and wow, just my type with top service....... .......
Wonder if it's the same Cataleya?

There is really only one Cataleya so there isn't a doubt that you are talking about the same person. Zorp001 will most certainly confirm. Describing Cataleya. She is a slim, tall brunette with a very friendly attitude once you talk to her. From a distance she seems a bit unapproachable but she really isn't. She is really a sweetheart but I would bet she is doing the premium now almost always unless you bargain hard! Or maybe not that hard because she is a soft person, I guess. For locals she is one of the more popular girls. She always sits on the table at the corner where the inside saunas are. In her beginner days at GT she was easily identifiable because of the huge necklaces she always wore. She is a super solid provider but only a human being. Hence, there have reports, even among the regular locals, that she is upselling to some and not upselling to the others.

[PussyLiccker]

I'm not a Vienna local, but I visit the city multiple times a month, partially because of the sex scene. Since the lack of reporting didn't really encourage me to try something new, it only made sense to do what feels safest and those places are without a doubt Goldentime and Maxim.

My first visit was to Goldentime the day after I arrived. I had the whole day open, so I wanted to chill in GT for a couple of hours and go for a session or two. The place wasn't particularly crowded and I saw a couple of familiar girls around. One of the familiar faces was Eva who I ended up going to the room with. She didn't seem to remember me, even though I had a session with her previously. Many people (me included) know her as ex FKK Babylon Hamburg and FKK Sharks. She's a tall girl with long black hair, not to be mixed up with the blond haired Bulgarian Eva who also works in GT. Her nose is a bit on the bigger side, but she still looks good. Very polite and calm person. She was well known for her good service; however she was also one of the first who wasn't content with the 60 room even 2 years ago. She didn't really upsell per se, but she elegantly and politely made people go for a full hour and then everything was well. I remember her being very light hearted and sweet, but now I find her to be more serious and less approachable. I guess the long time off that she had away from the business changed it all. Now, she is still good and worth going a full hour for, but she's not the world class anymore as I remember her. Anyway, no reason to complain, I had a great hour with her.

I was thinking about going for another session with Cataleya who was recommended by a local guy. I ended up not going to the room with her, because she only wanted to do the premium and it kinda annoyed me too much at that point. This could have been a spectacular night, but the attitude of the girls feels rather different nowadays. But let's say on a slow day, attitude of the girls may be WORSE than on better days. Anyways, that day I ended up only going for Eva and nobody else in Goldentime, but I feel like it was a good day overall.

I recall Eva from the earliest days in Germany at FKK Mainhattan. I was so mesmerized by her looks. Probably the first Ro I thought was truely hot, and she was quite young back then with very athletic body, fit with perfect see-cups tits. Still looks good.

Can you please describe Cataleya? I went with a Cataleya back in Nov /16, and wow, just my type with top service. I liked her so much. I wonder if it's the same one. She was very slim on top of her body with good sized and shaped butt, and the face... Very pretty!

Wonder if it's the same Cataleya?

[PussyLiccker]

Visited GT two days. Sunday and Monday. Interestingly, Monday LU had more girls. I liked the LU better than what I saw at Wellcum. I think there are better service providers at this club, and services are on the avg better as well. Wellcum's service level really isn't that good.

The situation with this club is the upsell, it's quite prevelent. There's a good chance that the girl will bring up extra for BBBJ (or kissing) in the room if you have not discussed pricing outside before hand. Standard session rate is 60 Euros per half HR, and the upsell for uncovered BJ and kissing for 40 Euros more. I've mainly experienced upsell for BBBJ rather than kissing. From what I recall, girls wanted 40 more in the half HR rate for BBBJ. Interestingly, girls that said kissing to be include in the services only upsold for BBBJ in the room. I guess girls rather not do BBBJ compared to kissing at this club.

Within the last two trips, I found good providers here. At least one extraordinary provider per trip.

This visit I ran into one provider that was quite excellent. Once we got in the room, she wanted 100 for half HR with BBBJ and kissing, but was willing to kiss in a half HR session with CBJ. Go figure. She was willing to do 1 HR with BBBJ and kissing, and turned out to be really passionate in the room with DFK.

Another girl that was a good provider didn't upsell me at all. She didn't ask for any extras, and performed BBBJ and DFK. She works during daytime, and during the day I was interested in taking her, but given the level of upsell at this club, decided to wait for full LU to develop. She approached me a few times throughout, but didn't pull the trigger until later at night, I decided to go with her. Earlier on, she was selling doubles with her fat friend, so I didn't get the best vibes. When I took her though, she was a sweety. She was such a beauty and couldn't believe she provided the services I wanted without request of extra charges or extension of room time. She was so nice, and tried to provide me with good service. I wonder if you have higher chances of good services with the daytime LU.

The next girl I negotiated 1 HR with kissing, and I got a feeling that she isn't a GFE provider. That was a waste of extra 60 as the 2nd half HR, her service just went down hill. She approach me to session again the next day, and of course declined.

I saw a real beauty infront of the bar the first night that I failed to take, and was happy when I spotted her the next night. Very pretty blonde (had a model face) with nice slim body with green eyes. She didn't upsell either, but she shows in the night. She provides kissing (weirdly only tongue) and BBBJ in the first half HR, and man was her BBBJ good. Very nice gal.

One session was pretty mediocre. I went with a very sexy womanly looking Ro. She pulled that 100 for 30 min bullshit, but talked her into 1 HR with kissing, and she tried to get me to CIM, etc. And session was mediocre. She hardly kissed, etc.

Sorry, can't recall the names.

I personally prefer this club over Wellcum. I had lots more targets and easily triggered picks, and I've had better luck at GT for services. Every girl would comply to kissing request (although 50% of them upsold me), so more potential here for services. I just get a feeling that girls at this club would rather kiss than give BBBJ since extra request for BBBJ was greater.

I didn't run into any upsells at Wellcum, and I guess the girls are fine with extra 10 Euros with very content Italians as clients(majority probably don't require GFE). I ran into upsell 50% of the time at GT, but I think services on the avg is better at GT (you may have to negotiate for 1 HR at times though).

Food isn't that good. Wellcum is much better for food and facilities of course, and it's the same for GT Linz. GT Linz LU on the other hand was quite mediocre in comparison. I'd skip GT Linz in the future.

If I compare consistency of the LU to Wellcum, GT is consistent. I was there on Sunday and Monday, and LU was slightly more full on Monday night, go figure. Both night, lots of girls. Wellcum, Tuesday was mediocre, not consistent. LU probably dips in the week.

If you are wondering which club to visit in Austria, GT Vienna would be the choice.