Makati

[Member #4698]

So how do you deal with that constant chiming noise then?

You really want to know? HA HA. 1st, you have to understand that I really hate seat belts. They are confining and I consider them an infringement on my rights to drive the way I want to. It's downright friggin' un-American! So on the same week I bought my new SUV, I went into the back seat and cut off one of the metallic seat belt buckles with a sharp razor knife. I keep that buckle part permanently inserted into the driver's side seat belt receptacle and there is no dinging. Occasionally someone gets into the back of my SUV and asks where the seat belt buckle is and I laugh.

P.S. I understand there is now a product that you can buy on the internet called "The End-Ding Seat Belt Alarm Stop" for 8 bucks. I am not sure it works for all cars, but Google it and see.

[Member #4698]

A hustler can tell a mark no matter what they say or don't say.

Right. A mark has that deer in the headlights look. A hustler can spot that look in a crowded bar although there are plenty of false positives in their line of work. Hustlers are really just fishermen (women). The con is their lure and whenever their con doesn't work, they just sit back and wait for the next fish to come along to try their luck (or skill) again ... And eventually they get a bite.

[Mr Enternational]

That said let me add that, THERE ARE NO RULES if you know what your doing. On that 1st visit to the PI, AC was my 1st stop, I told every girl I EWR'd that I was a "cherry boy," a 1st time visitor to the PI. They all laughed at my joke and then we got it on. The girls instinctively knew I knew what I was doing, so nobody tried to take me for a rube and I had a great time.

A hustler can tell a mark no matter what they say or don't say. That is why it is hilarious to me people talking about wearing certain clothing in attempts to blend in in certain countries. As if people are only targeting foreigners that are not blending in. Hell, they will get their own people; why wouldn't they get you just because you call yourself blending in.

[The Cane]

I never wear seat belts when I drive either. LOL! I trust my driving instincts.

So how do you deal with that constant chiming noise then? Ear plugs? Hehehe!

[Member #4698]

NEVER tell anyone that it is your first time in the Philippines! You may as well wear a tee-shirt saying "Take my money. Please!" If you do your due diligence here on ISG, you will (for all intents and purposes) be a veteran.

The ISG, despite all the clutter and nonsense, offers up a lot of solid info if one cares to take the time and do some research. I remember sifting back through a year or more of reports in the AC, Makati, and Cebu forums before my 1st PI trip back in 2011. The relevant information I found combined with my experience everywhere else made that 1st trip a breeze. This is why I still continue to post trip reports here.

That said let me add that, THERE ARE NO RULES if you know what your doing. On that 1st visit to the PI, AC was my 1st stop, I told every girl I EWR'd that I was a "cherry boy," a 1st time visitor to the PI. They all laughed at my joke and then we got it on. The girls instinctively knew I knew what I was doing, so nobody tried to take me for a rube and I had a great time. The only rule I have is to follow my bliss and trust my instincts, but I understand why others might find certain rules useful. Whatever works for you is fine with me. I never wear seat belts when I drive either. LOL! I trust my driving instincts.

One final word: although the ISG can be very helpful and informative, things were better before the internet. I miss the good ol' days when I used to arrive in a town and know almost nothing about the bar scene or the girls and have to find it out all on my own. Travel was much more adventurous pre-internet. There were not nearly as many mongers around and almost no Northern Asian Mongers. And the girls put out more. Oh well. That's progress.

[SaltyPete]

Never tell anyone that it is your first time in the Philippines! You may as well wear a tee-shirt saying "Take my money. Please!" If you do your due diligence here on ISG, you will (for all intents and purposes) be a veteran.

8000 php for a waitress!

Which brings me to Rule 2: Don't put the pussy on a pedestal (my favorite line from "40 Year Old Virgin".).

[Goferring]

And every night that I go in there the place is packed. So what is this quiet low season that you speak of?

I was speaking generally about bars around the PI rather than specifically the LAC. Low seasons affect the girls in tourist related towns like Subic, Sabang and even Cebu and can send them running to the security of a regular paycheck / salary.

[Mr Enternational]

A lot of the waitresses that I know served an apprenticeship on the other side of the bar as working girls when younger. That's why they are so aware of how the system works and how to extract the most from new punters.

Generally it is only growing age, weight or quiet low seasons that drives them to seeking a regular salary. They can be great fun but never assume they are innocent girls in a sea of debauchery!

But the LA Cafe waitresses are neither old nor fat. And every night that I go in there the place is packed. So what is this quiet low season that you speak of?

[Goferring]

If you do not want to waste time and money in the future, keep in mind that waitresses and bartenders in freelance hooker joints are doing those jobs instead of freelancing themselves for more money precisely because they do not want to fuck horny mongers.

A lot of the waitresses that I know served an apprenticeship on the other side of the bar as working girls when younger. That's why they are so aware of how the system works and how to extract the most from new punters.

Generally it is only growing age, weight or quiet low seasons that drives them to seeking a regular salary. They can be great fun but never assume they are innocent girls in a sea of debauchery!

[Chocha Monger]

Spot on as usual. Like the waitress in there that kept trying to get me to buy her drinks. I'm not buying you shit unless we together on your day off fucking. Then I will buy you a whole bottle. And never fall for that come to where I stay shit. Chick I met on Tinder was talking that well if you come to Algodoa or some bullshit then I will see you, unless I just happen to be in Manila. I told her that she had another thing coming if she thought I was going all the way to bum fuck PI after traveling half way across the world. What makes these chicks think you are going to go to their doorstep? And it is even less chance of fucking if you go to them, because they have not invested in shit. At least if they go to you they may feel they don't want to have wasted the trip (unless you are the one paying for the trip.). There are too many available women to be jumping through hoops with any of them.

They get the idea that you are willing to travel from the other side of the world and then onwards into the anus of the Philippines lowering the odds of gaining access to their pussies, because many fellas fall in love online and do that precisely. The majority of fellas who fall for it are newbies but the forum archives are also full of reports from seasoned veteran mongers who traveled all the way to Cagayan de Oro in Northern Mindanao, lured by the siren song of provincial pussy only to end up with their hard dicks keeping them company in their hotel rooms.

These chicks hear about guys like Larry the Mickey the's manager from Florida, USA, who blew his 401 K to fly to the Philippines and visit Urdaneta City to fuck a fat Filipina with a ton of attitude on 90 Day Fiance. That sets their expectations for all foreigners to do the same. LOL! As you said, they have not invested shit in meeting the man. Hence, they have nothing to lose in sending him on a wild goose chase. They do not care how much money or time a foreigner wastes trying to meet and fuck them. Some of them get a thrill out of it because a Filipino with money and education is highly unlikely put in that sort of effort to fuck them outside of a KTV.

A few years ago, I saw a young chick working at a hotel play out a monger waiting to fuck her at a Tune Hotel within three miles of her location. She was on Skype with him telling him meet her at the mall, and he was trying to get her to come over to the hotel. All she wanted was a free feed and shopping at the mall without giving him any pussy. She had a Pinoy construction worker for a boyfriend in Manila. One weekend, she failed to return from her day-off. She called her boss, told her that she had a family emergency, and asked for an advance on her salary. Her boss sent it to her via Smart Wallet, and that was the last she heard from her. As it turned out, she used the advance to pay for a room at Sogo where the construction worker impregnated her. Now, she is a single-mother living in a squatter camp in the mega-slums of Manila. If that monger were to invite her over for a paid fuck now, she would probably run over a bed of hot coals to get there. LOL! As you know, they find a way to meet you when they really want or need to do so. When the mango is ripe, it falls from the tree.

[Amjeck]

The quality at Hreenbelt esp Havana cafe is poor to say the least. I would not go near them.

Agree, the quality is very poor. More or less on the same level as LAcafe. Another spot to go and say you've been there and got the t-shirt. On the flip side, if one has any game, greenbelt is loaded with some of the hottest women in Manila strolling around shopping, but these are regular girls not p4 p hooks. Cream rises to the top as usual.

[Mr Enternational]

If you do not want to waste time and money in the future, keep in mind that waitresses and bartenders in freelance hooker joints are doing those jobs instead of freelancing themselves for more money precisely because they do not want to fuck horny mongers. They prefer to fuck their Pinoy boyfriends gratis, and get money out of foreigners through trickery without sucking and fucking. Finally, always have the girls come to your location, it weeds out the time wasters. Otherwise, prepare for the cute ones to play you out as you chase their pussy all over Manila in the horrendous traffic, suffocating heat, and heavy downpours.

Spot on as usual. Like the waitress in there that kept trying to get me to buy her drinks. I'm not buying you shit unless we together on your day off fucking. Then I will buy you a whole bottle. And never fall for that come to where I stay shit. Chick I met on Tinder was talking that well if you come to Algodoa or some bullshit then I will see you, unless I just happen to be in Manila. I told her that she had another thing coming if she thought I was going all the way to bum fuck PI after traveling half way across the world. What makes these chicks think you are going to go to their doorstep? And it is even less chance of fucking if you go to them, because they have not invested in shit. At least if they go to you they may feel they don't want to have wasted the trip (unless you are the one paying for the trip.). There are too many available women to be jumping through hoops with any of them.

[Chocha Monger]

Mongers I thought you were joking when you say grannies are working at LA cafe, but now I know it's no joke! Those grannies were working hard for the $$.

We were as serious as syphilis when we said that grannies freelance at LA Caf. They are the hardest working girls in the joint. The instant you perch on a bar stool, they will rush you faster than used car salesmen at a dodgy dealership. Horny grannies three deep offering you the best toothless bareback gang-suck of your life. Take them back to your room for a bareback cum-in-pussy blast into the past! LA Caf grannies offer you the opportunity to indulge in nostalgia, like slipping into the warm leather interior of a 1971 Plymouth Hemi Cuda and opening up the throttle.

Day 4- huge waste of time. Since the LA cafe waitress was taking the day off to meet me she asked me to cover her pay. Initially asked for 8 k which I haggled down to 5 k. She asked me to meet her near her home in Quezon City at the sm stat Mesa mall. So I took taxi and was on my way. When I am almost there (and she confirmed I was almost there before sending me the following txt) she says we will just eat and walk around mall nothing else. I was like WTF. And basically told her I am not going to pay 5 k for no sex. Long story short I told her I will just hang out at the mall alone and if she changes her mind she can visit me at hotel later. She did not play ball, saying she was disappointed with me, she's not that type of girl, etc. Asked me to delete her number. Of course I still have it.

You made a big boo-boo going after the cute newer model. The waitress probably gets a dozen horny mongers asking for her number each night, out of those at least one or two noobs likely pay her extortionate 8,000-peso fee to cover her salary for a month! She was not taking the day off to meet you. It was a scheduled day-off, and she uses it to hustle an extra 8,000 pesos to double her monthly income by getting horny mongers to pay her to eat and hang out at the mall near her home. Had you agreed to her ridiculous bait-and-switch scheme, you probably would have arrived at the mall to find her relatives and friends waiting for a feed at your expense.

When she quoted you 8,000 pesos for her pussy in a bargain bin joint for freelance hookers, it was a clear sign that she was trying to con you. At that point, you should have quit, as it was unlikely to get any better after that. Even countering with 5,000 pesos made her see you as a sucker because she knows expats fuck the girls in there for approx. 1,000ST and 2,000 LT. Furthermore, no waitress in Manila makes 8,000 pesos or even 5,000 per day, so when you did not call bullshit on that being the amount to cover her salary, she thought you were a noob sucker ripe for a fleecing. LOL!

She is experienced at executing the con, as she waited until you invested in traveling to the rendezvous point before switching the deal to no fucky-fucky and you pay her 5,000 pesos to walk around the mall and feed at your expense. LOL! Luckily, you managed to salvage your dignity and cancel her bullshit. She was not going to change her mind because she just scrolled down to the next horny foreigner on the list and repeated the same routine.

If you do not want to waste time and money in the future, keep in mind that waitresses and bartenders in freelance hooker joints are doing those jobs instead of freelancing themselves for more money precisely because they do not want to fuck horny mongers. They prefer to fuck their Pinoy boyfriends gratis, and get money out of foreigners through trickery without sucking and fucking. Finally, always have the girls come to your location, it weeds out the time wasters. Otherwise, prepare for the cute ones to play you out as you chase their pussy all over Manila in the horrendous traffic, suffocating heat, and heavy downpours.

Thanks for sharing your humorous account as apprentice monger in LA Caf dodging horny man-pleasing grannies, and chasing sly young waitresses who want to get paid a fortune for not fucking. LOL! The young cute waitress obviously did not inherit the grannies' hard-working ethic and pride in satisfying customers. She does not know the value of a fair day's wage for a fair day's fuck.

[TheApprentice7]

Generally at MPs you can dismiss a masseuse and choose another one before anything gets started, within 15 minutes. In my experience she will approach me quickly to get going. I will hold things up, "Wait a minute", and state what I expect, BBBJ or whatever. I have never had a girl demur what I put it that way.

This info makes it worth a second or third visit to AF1. Many thanks!

[TheApprentice7]

Mongers,

Day 3 I went to green belt to test my luck with FL and we chat. I thought I could see some FL near Starbucks but man I saw nothing at all, maybe it was too early in the day (around 1 pm). I sent greetings to a few girls on we chat too but none replied. Alas I gave up and headed to LA cafe around 4. Mongers I thought you were joking when you say grannies are working at LA cafe, but now I know it's no joke! Those grannies were working hard for the $$. No talent when I got there. Eventually I decided to step up and hit on one of the waitresses that smiled at me a few times. Super cute. I was thrilled when I got her number, and feeling it would be inappropriate to pick up another girl in front of her after getting her digits, I left. I headed back to Makati and was able to finally blow my first load in tickles bar, where 5 different girls gave me alternating BBBJs in the smoking room, with one of the big boned girls taking CIM to finish me off, for a round of ladies drinks plus 2 k shared amongst the 5 girls. While I was walking back to hotel I came across this cutie offering massage near the bar with her friend. I took her number and called her and her friend later at night for a very amateur 3 some (the girls were friends but first time banging the same guy together. 2 k to each girl for a total of 4 K. They stayed about an hour and left after.

Day 4- huge waste of time. Since the LA cafe waitress was taking the day off to meet me she asked me to cover her pay. Initially asked for 8 k which I haggled down to 5 k. She asked me to meet her near her home in Quezon City at the sm stat Mesa mall. So I took taxi and was on my way. When I am almost there (and she confirmed I was almost there before sending me the following txt) she says we will just eat and walk around mall nothing else. I was like WTF. And basically told her I am not going to pay 5 k for no sex. Long story short I told her I will just hang out at the mall alone and if she changes her mind she can visit me at hotel later. She did not play ball, saying she was disappointed with me, she's not that type of girl, etc. Asked me to delete her number. Of course I still have it.

I eventually returned to makati at night and did happy hour bar jumping, before eventually bringing a girl home from that bar right next to rogues. Her name was Margo and I was too focused on the cute face to notice that she was a bit plump. No kid but still got a bit of belly. 2100 BF + 300 drinks + 3 k ST pay for girl. I am going to call it a night.