German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[BaltiX]

We are lucky to have Romanian beauties for cheap rate, some are lovely and I love them.

Without Romanians, most of few Germans would not accept to work for such cheap rate. Romanians are better GF for me, even some Germans are crazy hot in bed.

With registration, new Germans will become more and more rare. Romanians are FKK land future, and I'm happy about that.

Business seem more and more slow, not only at LR, but also at big Sharks, and even at GT out of week ends. At Oase, it's because of many girls fault, trying to fuck clients.

Romanian girls has to register too.

[Member #4581]

By that post you spend nearly 1000 a night at an FKK?

Weather or not anyone should of need to care about the comments, is optional.

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How much I spend per night is not relevant here Pistons, but you do need to work on your reading comprehension.

I will probably have to engage a translator service to understand that second sentence of yours.

[Polyamorist]

An increase to 100 e per 30 min would kill the FKK industry. An increase to 60 or 65 (62-63 would be the average) could however increase demand, if but only if the girls would play along and not get carried away by greed.

Salaam Pistons, the alternative I mentioned was to eliminate entrance fees for girls. In return the clubs could increase entry for mongers by 5 euros until there was increased business.

[Pistons]

Some ISGers or some mongers in general may just be into long rooms because they already know what they want, which girls they like and realized over time that they find half hour sessions not satisfying and that they can't finish in such sessions.

Some others strictly do half HR sessions because they want to sample as many girls as possible, don't need things like kissing, DATY, even BJ and just want to bang the girl, finish, and do the next girl.

I personally don't have a strict formula. I do want to have as many sessions as I can, with as many different pretty girls as I can, and want to fuck every single optiflck I see in the club at least once. However, I have a handful of personal favs; and I tend to do them at least once or even twice a day every time I am in the club and those can be multiple hour sessions each.

Sounds like you make a hell of a lot of rooms, and add in some long rooms too. By that post you spend nearly 1000 a night at an FKK?

And to your last question: yes of course. There will always be blame to hand around. That is how markets work. Weather or not anyone should of need to care about the comments, is optional. For the girls, they probably just need to understand that not everyone has an equally sized wallet, and micro economics points towards differentiated price tags too. But many girls have the tendency to misjudge the customers. So that is where the blaming probably stems from.

[Member #4581]

Well many guys who do long rooms are negatively impacting the local monger as well. They are essentially taking the WG off the market. I am not complaining because I generally like less popular WGs who don't possess the requisite charm to hook the whales.

It does seem to be a badge of honor for some ISGers to say: "I never pay more than 100 EUR per hour". But if you are spending thousands of EUR on a a favorite WG per year, I would hope that you would be able to negotiate a better hourly rate. Bulk discounts, free time, free extras, etc. Make her earn your EUR! Make her be the one to court you!

Some ISGers or some mongers in general may just be into long rooms because they already know what they want, which girls they like and realized over time that they find half hour sessions not satisfying and that they can't finish in such sessions.

Some others strictly do half HR sessions because they want to sample as many girls as possible, don't need things like kissing, DATY, even BJ and just want to bang the girl, finish, and do the next girl.

I personally don't have a strict formula. I do want to have as many sessions as I can, with as many different pretty girls as I can, and want to fuck every single optiflck I see in the club at least once. However, I have a handful of personal favs; and I tend to do them at least once or even twice a day every time I am in the club and those can be multiple hour sessions each.

I would think no one is intentionally screwing up the market for others. Every man does what is best for himself using the knowledge, skills, and expertise he has. Even the Asian tourists paying 150 to 200 an hour are probably not destroying the market intentionally, but just don't know any better.

If guys of variable means and needs interact with sex suppliers, the ones with higher needs and bigger wallets are likely to overwhelm the ones with lesser needs and smaller wallets. Should the former be blamed?

[Pistons]

Think its related to the obesity epidemic in USA? Fat people sweat more? People just got to get into shape!

[McAdonis]

And unfortunately $206.91 electric bills seem to be a Texas phenomenon to finance said air conditioning, not sure about in Europe but at least in this neck of the woods the Utility Companies are all thieves, I would rather be upsold and hosed by an upseller over there than write this check.

Germans pay three times more than Americans for electricity: https://www.ovoenergy.com/guides/ene...rices-kwh.html

USA uses more electricity on air conditioning than anybody else in the world. More than four times more than much hotter places like the Middle East: https://qz.com/1285836/the-people-li...-conditioners/

[Mr Ho]

Well many guys who do long rooms are negatively impacting the local monger as well. They are essentially taking the WG off the market. I am not complaining because I generally like less popular WGs who don't possess the requisite charm to hook the whales.

It does seem to be a badge of honor for some ISGers to say: "I never pay more than 100 EUR per hour". But if you are spending thousands of EUR on a a favorite WG per year, I would hope that you would be able to negotiate a better hourly rate. Bulk discounts, free time, free extras, etc. Make her earn your EUR! Make her be the one to court you!

I cannot stay in room for more than 1.5 hour per session, max of max is 2 hours, I find it not comforting to stay with tute in room between the actual sex. When I talk to them I use my nerves to be polite and I get tired so 1.5 hour to maximum 2 hours is the time I can handle, but that with few cum, not just doing once and talking.

Only in GT where long room and reservations are problem as there, some girls comes in and disappear for whole day, usually the best ones.

[McAdonis]

Yes, the tourists who are traveling internationally via long haul flights from North America or Asia tend to be affluent, but elsewhere the locals are still visiting working girls. If we advocate and support price increases to 140-200 per hour for basic services it will for sure negatively impact the everyday local man's ability to visit WGs, which I believe will have a larger negative impact on the legislation than anything we have seen to date.

Well many guys who do long rooms are negatively impacting the local monger as well. They are essentially taking the WG off the market. I am not complaining because I generally like less popular WGs who don't possess the requisite charm to hook the whales.

It does seem to be a badge of honor for some ISGers to say: "I never pay more than 100 EUR per hour". But if you are spending thousands of EUR on a a favorite WG per year, I would hope that you would be able to negotiate a better hourly rate. Bulk discounts, free time, free extras, etc. Make her earn your EUR! Make her be the one to court you!

[Pistons]

Vacations like the summer holiday is also high season for tourists travelling for afar. It might be low seasons for some locals, but just look at the Villash clubs in Austria: July / August is the busiest time of the year. Because the Italians have time off work.

[Pistons]

The inflation has been very low in Europe especially if you don't count the energy and food costs. Maybe you earn 5 times more but that's not the case for everyone. If they raised the 30 minutes costs from 50 to 100, a lot of the clubs would close and more than half of the girls would be back to work in some Bucharest Macdonald. Since one year, there are less and mess men in the clubs, raising the prices wouldn't make them come back.

My theory stands counter to that argument. But I agree on your first part. An increase to 100 e per 30 min would kill the FKK industry. An increase to 60 or 65 (62-63 would be the average) could however increase demand, if but only if the girls would play along and not get carried away by greed. Too rough hikes in price as the same time could be damaging too, so an increase of more than 10 e (20%) would probably not be advisable, which is more than the European CPI increase since 2007, but not by much.

[Chongmal]

Mongering is a physical activity and generally reserved for the more affluent.

I think this is where myself as an expat living many years in Europe and Asia see things differently. In Korea, Thailand, The PI, Vietnam, etc prostitution is for most men. The difference is that prices are inflated for sex tourists, and often times the establishment for locals is segregated from that of foreigners.

In England, Ireland, Spain, the NL Germany, Ukraine mongering is again available to most men. Ukraine is possibly the exception because it seems almost every local woman has a price of $100 which is beyond the means of many local men to pay on a frequent basis unless they are involved in some sort of illegal activities.

Germany is a prime example of prostitution being available for almost every man. If you walk through Frankfurt RLD, the Hamburg RLD, etc toward the end of the evening you will see groups of late teens early twenties men, drunk as heck, walking the streets and stairwells looking for the WG of choice. These are not the affluent, they just have an extra €50 at the end of the night and full balls. If you look at the FKK concept, it was started by a man, to serve the needs of his friends in the village. I'm sure he never imagined how the concept would evolve. It is now a multi billion euro business with international sex tourists arriving daily. Yes, the tourists who are traveling internationally via long haul flights from North America or Asia tend to be affluent, but elsewhere the locals are still visiting working girls. If we advocate and support price increases to €140-200 per hour for basic services it will for sure negatively impact the everyday local man's ability to visit WGs, which I believe will have a larger negative impact on the legislation than anything we have seen to date.

[Kosher Kowboy]

World-wide, the use of air conditioning is mostly an American phenomenon.

And unfortunately $206.91 electric bills seem to be a Texas phenomenon to finance said air conditioning, not sure about in Europe but at least in this neck of the woods the Utility Companies are all thieves, I would rather be upsold and hosed by an upseller over there than write this check.

Still, probably a lot less than Sharks electric bill for July. I can't even imagine how many thousands of Euros they get popped for a month.

Perhaps some guy needs to have a heat stroke in Sharks boiler rooms before change occurs.

Speaking of Sharks and AC, don't all those little wood huts in back have those mini split units in them? I remember them being cold but maybe I was somewhere else (physically and / or mentally.) I think the red room has a Daiken mini (Same brand Mainhatten ordered) on the wall, but I am sure that room is always occupied.

[McAdonis]

There would be no mongering in Thailand if it were not for AC. Don't know about the Philippines (does AC stand for Angeles City or aircon?).

Mongering is a physical activity and generally reserved for the more affluent, so it makes sense that AC is common in Thai and Filipino brothels. Are these brothels frequented by locals? These locations also have more hot days of the year than say Germany.

My point was that AC is not in every building and residence like it is in USA, so people manage to live without it, and probably less likely to complain when without it. Most regular Thai people apparently are forced to suffer without AC: "In Thailand, home air conditioners are not widely used despite the country's tropical heat and humidity. According to Iwatani, the country's air conditioner penetration rate is still 20% or lower. " https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Tha...for-investment.

FKK operators probably expect the customer traffic to dip in July and August (especially). We sometimes see some pricing promotions introduced during this period to counteract. Entire cities across Europe become ghost towns in August. Married European mongers must pack the kids into station wagons. Installing more AC would not encourage this demographic to attend, because they have social obligations during peak holiday season. I know some unmarried French, Belgian, Dutch, and German mongers who attend every weekend, but are missing in action for periods during the summer. When Europeans return to work from their month-long vacations, I suspect one needs a cover story. Unless said European monger can manage to be completely anti-social.

Perhaps some guy needs to have a heat stroke in Sharks boiler rooms before change occurs.

[TankTank123]

In Sharks I have been led by girls to windowless rooms after requesting a "not too hot" room. They may have done this on purpose so that I would shorten my already short sessions.

I have found this to be actually true! In my last 2 visits to Sharks, both in peak heat, I tested many many rooms. The windowless ones were about 2 degrees less hot than those with windows. The windowless rooms nearest the staircase were the least untolerable.